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Tuesday, May 15, 2012

KU men’s basketball leads conference in home attendance for 26th straight year

Kansas University students K.J. Hadjis, Colorado Springs, Colorado junior, left, and Tyler Betz, Montrose, Colorado sophomore get wild during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 18, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas University students K.J. Hadjis, Colorado Springs, Colorado junior, left, and Tyler Betz, Montrose, Colorado sophomore get wild during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 18, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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The Kansas men's basketball team led its conference in home attendance for the 26th straight year, as the NCAA recently released the final attendance numbers for the 2011-12 campaign.

KU averaged 16,445 fans per home contest, which ranked 10th nationally. This included 16 games in Allen Fieldhouse, with an average of 16,300, and one game at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, which was part of the KU home ticket package and drew 18,757 fans.

For all games, KU ranked sixth in the NCAA with 682,680 combined fans attending its contests. That number was first in the Big 12 and included KU's Final Four game against Ohio State on March 31, which set a school single-game attendance record with 73,361 fans.

KU has led the Big 12/Big Eight in home attendance average for 31 of the last 35 seasons dating back to 1977-78.

Comments

JhawkalumJB 2 years, 2 months ago

Will we ever see the day when we rank in the top half in attendance for football, in our own conference?

I know we can't hang with Bevo and OU as far as capacity, but how bout the other schools. Jayhawk fans need to step up and represent!

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Wisconsin2Kansas 2 years, 2 months ago

Stadium wise, we are the laughing stock of the Big 12. Baylor is even upgrading their stadium. We need to start making some games if we are ever going to get the funding to build up Memorial Stadium.

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texashawk10 2 years, 2 months ago

Baylor is doing more than upgrading. They're building a brand new stadium on campus stadium along the banks of the Brazos River and will have a capacity of 45,000 and would be expandable to 55,000.

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Vernon Riggs 2 years, 2 months ago

I live in Waco. I have seen the plans. It looks great. It was to be the site for the George Bush library. But, 45K capacity is disappointing.

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Pitthawk34 2 years, 2 months ago

Agree...if we are seriouswe need a 100 million renovation. This is the time.

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Benz Junque 2 years, 2 months ago

I would settle for Kansas just PAINTING the stadium they play in. It looks like a filthy crap heap when you drive past it.

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danno1313 2 years, 2 months ago

They can play in a pasture, JUST WIN GAMES. Fix the team, then the stadium.

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Wisconsin2Kansas 2 years, 2 months ago

I'd hope remodeling Memorial Stadium would attract recruits to KU. It couldn't hurt us!

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oldalum 2 years, 2 months ago

I wish they'd do these things based on percentage of capacity rather than raw numbers. It's a lot more impressive to have 16,400 people in an arena that holds 16,400, than to have 18,000 in an arena that holds 20,000. And yet that 18,000 would rank above the 16,400.

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CardHawkFan 2 years, 2 months ago

The average home attendance is actually kind of a cool number considering AFH only holds 16,300 - meaning we average more home attendance than our building holds. Unfortunately, our arena isn't as large as some of the multipurpose facilities (ex: the Carrier Dome, where Syracuse plays football and basketball). However, don't need numbers to know we have the best home court advantage in the country. All you have to do is get inside for a game. Not knocking your comment, just adding to it...sort of.

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Ben Kane 2 years, 2 months ago

this headline is like saying the sky is blue.

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 2 months ago

How about road attendance?

That is the real measure.

Also, would be interesting to see some of the capacities with the Big XII. I would imagine that only UT would be close to the size of capacity.

Football we might not be top in attendance, but we did pretty good for the spring game.

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texashawk10 2 years, 2 months ago

I'm putting all the capacities of former, current, and future Big 12 schools for comparison.

Erwin Center (UT): 16,734 Allen Fieldhouse (KU): 16,300 United Spirit Arena (TTU): 15,091 Mizzou Arena: 15,061 Hilton Coliseum (ISU): 14,356 WVU Coliseum: 14,000 Gallagher-Iba Arena (OSU): 13,611 Devaney Center (NU): 13,595, Their new arena is going to be about 16,000. Reed Arena (TAMU): 12,989 Bramlage Coliseum (KSU): 12,528 Lloyd Noble Center (OU): 12,000 Coors Events Center (CU): 11,064 Ferrell Center (Baylor): 10,284 Daniel-Meyer Coliseum (TCU): 7,200

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Steve Corder 2 years, 2 months ago

Here's average attendance and as a percentage of capacity. 1. KU 16,445 100.8%
2. ISU 13,015 90.6%
3. KSU 12,783 102% 4. Texas 11,950 71.4% 5. MU 11,830 78.5% 6. WVU 9,930 70.9% 7. OSU 9,239 67.8% 8. TxTech 8,665 57.3% 9. OU 8,525 71.0% 10 Baylor 7,914 76.9% 11. A&M 7,383 59.0% 12. TCU 4,581 63.6%

Top 5 as a percentage of capacity, KSU, KU, ISU, MU, BU, finished in the top 5 in final standings.

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79ictjhawk 2 years, 2 months ago

What happened 27 years ago that caused us to not lead then?

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Kusportsshould Notrequirethis 2 years, 2 months ago

And who was it that averaged the highest attendance, and where did we rank that year?

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Robert Brown 2 years, 2 months ago

As a 1981 graduate, I can tell that when I was in school sell outs were very rare. It was rare to get 10,000 fans for a non-conference game with an relatively unknown school. I remember a couple of Kentucky games (close losses) that sold out and the other guaranteed sell out was K-State. I remember the K-State rivalry been more intense than the MU rivalry. Most MU-KU games were not sold out. Though a game I will never forget was KU-MU in 1981. Steve Stiponovich of MU shot himself earlier in the year and made up a story that someone shot him. When he was introduced, 100s of fan shot off cap guns which they brought before the game. It took several minutes for the smoke from the caps to clear.

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BillSelf4Prez 2 years, 2 months ago

And today that would be a "no-no"

Would be pretty cool to see though.

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Ludwig Supraphonic 2 years, 2 months ago

During Ted Owens last two seasons of 4-10 in the conference AFH was a tepid place. I love basketball and went anyway. For most. even a short, cold walk from Templin Hall wasn't worth the effort.

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Pitthawk34 2 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if it is possible to raise the rood and add some luxury boxes in Allen and add about 4,000 seats. OSU did it. Is it possible without issues. i would love to se the day when all will hold 20,000 screaming maniacs.

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pizzaboy225 2 years, 2 months ago

you want to significantly change the main arena of Allen Fieldhouse, college basketball's finest home court? are you serious?

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jhox 2 years, 2 months ago

I really don't believe KU wants to increase the size. One reason we have sell outs is that size is limited and tickets are in demand, which also allows the athletic department to fleece season ticket holders for bigger donations. If Allen seated 20,000, we would probably have trouble selling out all but the biggest games. Allen is probably near perfect size for maximizing revenues.

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BillSelf4Prez 2 years, 2 months ago

I agree but disagree on the trouble of selling out games. I think we could easily get 25,000

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BillSelf4Prez 2 years, 2 months ago

You realize the low roof greatly contributes to the noise right? And you want to make it more modern? Stick with the tradition!

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Timothy Rake 2 years, 2 months ago

Skyboxes? Are you crazy? We don't need Allen Field House to become just another one of those separate and unequal venues that are shredding the fabric of American society. Furthermore, pampering the rich in their own little universe is not what makes AFH a special place. Let all of them rich folk eat their popcorn, spill their drink, and rub elbows with real fans, including all those students and Joe-the-farmers who come for the love of the game. The Skyboxing of America has been one of the biggest drags on our culture in the last quarter century. It's exemplified par excellence by a Congress that no longer talks to one another, but past one another. Republicans and Democrats live in different worlds and "skybox syndrome" has everything to do with it. Skyboxing = loss of common ground + loss of common experience. I suggest you read a little Michael Sandel:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-sandel/what-money-cant-buy_b_1442128.html

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jhox 2 years, 2 months ago

Excellent point and the article you linked was right on target. I've sat in my fair share of skyboxes. Truth be told, other than the free food, beverages and private restrooms, I'd much rather sit in the stand with real people. You feel much more like you're watching a real live game.

As a side. Note I see Worlds of Fun is offering VIP passes for a higher price, so you don't have to wait in line. There is just something wrong with that.

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Ludwig Supraphonic 2 years, 2 months ago

Lectured by a Harvard professor on the loss of common ground. Somewhere a community college has a job opening.

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nuleafjhawk 2 years, 2 months ago

Just asking - how can they count the Sprint Center numbers towards our * home * attendance, but losses there don't count as home losses ?

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jhox 2 years, 2 months ago

I believe the loss at sprint did officially count as a home loss as far as NCAA stats are concerned.

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KU79 2 years, 2 months ago

Thank God they built AFH as large as they did...it was incredible at the time. If they had built the standard, but large for the time with 10-12,000 seats, they would have built something new by now. And I doubt it would have half the ambience, and definitely not the history, that places AFH at the pinnacle of all of basketball, and probably sport.

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KU79 2 years, 2 months ago

Thank God they built AFH as large as they did...it was incredible at the time. If they had built the standard, but large for the time with 10-12,000 seats, they would have built something new by now. And I doubt it would have half the ambience, and definitely not the history, that places AFH at the pinnacle of all of basketball, and probably sport.

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hailtoku 2 years, 2 months ago

Allen Fieldhouse average attendance in 2012....16,445 Allen Fieldhouse capacity.........16,300

...rock chalk

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RockChalk26 2 years, 2 months ago

That would explain the elderly lady sitting on my lap last year.

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Tony Bandle 2 years, 2 months ago

As a KU Architecture grad and Registered Architect, I have sketched up a number of Allen renovations adding capacity over the years just for fun.

The essential problem is that the basic building frame has to stay pretty much the same size and due to updated fire code requirements, exiting capacities are currently stretched to their limits.

It would be relatively easy to squeeze another 1000-1200 seats into The Old Girl but it would take smaller seats, elimination of some aisles, increase in travel distances for more remote seating, all of which adding exit doors just can't solve.

The only way to increase capacity is to build an add-on, big screen theatre for live action, remote viewing......and what the hell kind of fun would that be!!! :)

I am afraid 16,300 is the number and it isn't going to change. Fire Marshalls can be such party poopers!!

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wildjayhawk 2 years, 2 months ago

This attendance will not hold up with the way Self is recruiting, as he is missing the talented players. KU now where in the top tier for recruiting top notch players.

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Ludwig Supraphonic 2 years, 2 months ago

You retain clarity of mind and command of the English language you displayed as Jayhawkinnebr. Thanks for the comedy relief.

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Tony Bandle 2 years, 2 months ago

Let me try:

"By the way Bill Self has not landed talented players, these attendance figures will not hold up because, for KU to remain in the top tier, Self must recruit top notch talent." Even grammatically correct, it's still ridiculous!!

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