Saturday, March 10, 2012


If foe looks good, Kansas doesn’t


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KU coach Bill Self

Kansas coach Bill Self talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 81-72 loss to Baylor on March 9, 2012.

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KU players Tyshawn Taylor and Jeff Withey

KU players Tyshawn Taylor and Jeff Withey talk to reporters following the Jayhawks' 81-72 loss to Baylor on March 9, 2012.

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BU's Scott Drew, Perry Jones III, Quincy Acy and Pierre Jackson

Baylor coach Scott Drew and players Perry Jones III, Quincy Acy and Pierre Jackson talk to reporters following the Bears' 81-72 victory over Kansas on March 9, 2012.

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KU vs. Baylor

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Nothing about the way the teams looked sharing the Sprint Center court made it seem as if the guys who lost were the ones who won the conference and the guys who won were seeded fourth after finishing four games out of first place during an 18-game schedule.

Baylor, with a deeper bench and superior deep shooters, took it to Kansas, 81-72, in front of a pro-KU crowd Friday night in Sprint Center to advance to today’s title game against Missouri.

The question after Friday’s Baylor game became not, “How did that happen?” rather, “How did Kansas finish four games ahead of Baylor playing the same schedule?” And: “How did the Bears lose twice to KU by a combined margin of 32 points?”

And that’s how it will go for Kansas in March if it shows up in a big building and brings with it an approach that screams, “We’ll do what we do. You do what you do. We’ll count ’em up at the end and see who’s better.”

Several teams in the country bring more talented players onto the practice floor on a daily basis than Kansas. Not many compete as consistently hard as the Jayhawks. Take away that advantage, and KU’s not one of the first teams that comes to mind when talking about threats to win the national championship.

“If we can’t make other teams play bad, then we’re not going to advance very far in the NCAA Tournament,” ninth-year Kansas coach Bill Self said after his team came up flatter than Jack “Smack” Harry’s buzz cut. “And we certainly didn’t make Baylor play poorly at all.”

Not this time. In Lawrence and Waco, Kansas kept big man Perry Jones III from getting near the hoop and barely allowed shooter Brady Heslip to catch the ball, much less shoot it. In those blowouts, Kansas played to the scouting report prepared by coaches, intimidated Baylor with physical play and kept the Bears in retreat mode.

Baylor coach Scott Drew, primarily a zone man since using a 2-3 defense out of the blue in knocking Kansas out of the Big 12 tournament three years ago, had a surprise in store again for Kansas and used a man-to-man defense for the entire game.

That didn’t explain why Kansas left its identity in the locker room for this one. It didn’t explain why Kansas defenders didn’t make it difficult for the Bears to get good shots.

“The thing that was most disappointing to me, I thought we played a style that is just good enough to get your butt beat,” Self said. “Average energy. Let them pass it wherever they want to. Never dictate a tempo defensively. Crappy traps on the post. Couldn’t remember scouting report.”

The scouting report on Heslip is not a complicated one. He’s not as quick as most Big 12 guards, not as strong, not as versatile. He’s a long-range shooter. Deny him from catching the ball, and don’t leave him alone to help elsewhere.

In the first two KU-Baylor games, Elijah Johnson was on him much of the time. In two games, Heslip was able to get off four three-pointers and made one. On Friday, he made four of six with Travis Releford on him most of the time. Kansas had battled back from a 14-point deficit to take a two-point lead when Heslip’s three-pointer with 9:07 put Baylor up, 59-58.

The Bears never trailed again, and it was two more daggers from Heslip, with 2:06 and 1:18, that cut the deepest. After one of them, on which Releford left him to help out, team leader Tyshawn Taylor, who didn’t have any trouble remembering the scouting report, gave Releford an earful.

“The whole deal on Heslip is the most we’re ever going to leave him is to bluff at the ball and get back to him,” Self said. “We made two critical mistakes. Critical. But you can’t just put it on Travis, because maybe if we got through the back screen — I’ve got to watch the tape — maybe if we got through the back screen quicker on the back-screen/fade-screen play they ran, maybe we could have released and got to the shooter quicker. I don’t know. I’ll have to watch the tape. But that definitely went against the scouting report.”

What did Baylor do to get him so open?

“I guess ran back screens and had us help a little bit and that gave him space,” Releford said. “We gave him space we shouldn’t have given him.”

Self has made a nice living on getting quick players to play rugged defense. He knows there is no secret to what makes this team click and what makes it vulnerable.

“We gotta guard,” Self said. “We don’t guard. Let’s just call it like it is. We don’t guard. This has to be a team that makes other people play poorly.”


sideburn07 8 years, 7 months ago

"In the first two KU-Baylor games, Elijah Johnson was on him much of the time. In two games, Heslip was able to get off four three-pointers and made one. On Friday, he made four of six with Travis Releford on him most of the time."

I am so tired of hearing about the "great" defending skills that Travis Releford has. Game in and game out he leaves players open around the perimeter and commits fouls late in the shot clock that remind you of a freshman who has lost his man.

Good coaches compliment their worst players by telling them that they are good defenders, and that is exactly the case with Travis Releford. He brings almost nothing to the table with a shot that is absolutely atrocious and more turnovers than any other 3-man in the country. In four years at KU the guy has not even learned how to the feed the post! It is going to be a long year riding pine next year when we get a couple average freshman wing players in the line up because this type of play just can't go on any longer.

Another typical slow start for this KU team and Baylor took advantage of it for once. T-Rob was half asleep for the majority of the game as was Tyshawn. This game was a huge regression for the Hawks and really reminded me of the game we played against Davidson... very little emotion. Hopefully we leave nothing left on the court in the tournament because anything less than our best effort will send this team back to lawrence far sooner that we would like.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

KU sand bagged till 15 minutes to go to conserve energy to try to sneak 3 in 3 days, shot 15% from trey, and almost won.

Travis, who has played well all season, is playing on an ankle three weeks out of a boot and a "tweaked knee" and you smear him?

Utterly erroneous take on your part.

It also omits some great play late by KU, especially Tyshawn.

KU is exhausted and injured.

They missed a ton of easy baskets inside.

And after shooting 67% vs. TAM from trey, KU shot 15% from trey.

See the glass half full.

They are a streak shooting team that averaged 42% from trey in two games, but the off night sunk them.

This was a bad format for us. Self did not waste a full amp on either game and we split. And we got a 15% trey night out of the way before the Madness, not during the Madness.

This team gets to rest and heal a bit and not waste a peak performance in a meaningless tourney.

Would have been nice to get a one seed.

But this team just is not cut out for 3 in 3 format.

We are still the best first 5 in the country, but for UK. We can't lose our swagger now.


Ashwin Rao 8 years, 7 months ago

Agreed... What hurt us was the thinness in our bench. The players looked gassed out in the court. We should fare better in the "Big one".

bradh 8 years, 7 months ago

I didn't think we looked gassed in the first half. It seemed to me that we pulled the same thing we've pulled several times this year, put it in cruise the first half to see how hard we had to play in the second half in order to win. Problems with that attitude is if you get too far behind, or if the other team doesn't let you come back.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

jaybate - you know I like and respect you, but 9 points really isn't "almost won".

kusports1 8 years, 7 months ago

Actually nuleafjhawk, it was a 4 point game when KU had to start fouling. so, yes I would consider it "almost won". None the less, KU didn't bring it this game. Baylor is a good team but I don't believe they beat KU tonight.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago


I see your point.

But just for the sake of discussion, if being down 4 points means that we "almost won", does the fact that we were ahead early mean that we really did win?

yates33333 8 years, 7 months ago

To be honest during the last several games I noticed Kansas playing as the team I thought they were going to be before the season started. Of course, during most of the season they weren't, they played way above their anticipated ability mostly because of Taylor, Robinson, and Withey. Also, Baylor played with the enthusiasm and determination that KU had three games ago.

KU has trouble shooting in the Sprint Arena. The rims really do seem unforgiving, except for Baylor last night. However, in the last two games the Jayhawks have dogged it. Johnson had a spectacular game against Texas A&M, but isn't the player KU can depend on game after game. Despite expectations, A&M isn't a very good team. Releford had a good game about mid-season. Otherwise, Johnson and Releford play mediocre and are credited as excellent defensive players, which is pretty hard to judge.

KU doesn't have the best five in the country. They have two excellent players and a very good player. Hopefully, the players are just tired and can recuperate this coming week. Also, you win some and you lose some. KU hasn't lost many. Yet, losses happen and are never happy occasions.

I just hope they get back to playing the way they did several weeks ago. If not, oh, no, not another Bucknell, VCU, etal. again. The fear that next year may really be the rebuilding season has crossed my mind with Taylor and Robinson gone. I hope the freshmen or the two ineligible players are as good as the hype has been.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

What ticks me off the most is, these guys can beat ANYONE - Kentucky, Duke, UNC - whoever - IF they quit being so passive and come in with an underdog (Not the cartoon superhero) attitude.

They've been playing (mentally, and sometimes physically) lazy lately and it has, and will continue to bite them in the butt.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

'KU is exhausted and injured'

Pretty much sums it up.

AndOne 8 years, 7 months ago


Any word whether some of the players were still sick? They said Tyshawn was sick earlier this week. TRob did not look like himself last night.

deepind 8 years, 7 months ago

What really bothers me is the way TRob has been playing the last few games! I just don't see the the hops in his step... he seems a bit slower to react and taking jumpers rather than going strong to the hoop. Also his rebounding is quite worrying. Last night he got beat on several rebounds and bobbled the ball a lot even when he got to it first. The last time I saw him show some fire was at the end of regulation against Misswho. I just hope he is not injured but just lacking some focus.

Anyone else feel the same way? I hope it is just me!! :)

Chris Corley 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm with ya, deepind. I think he's hurt. I feel for the guy out there. He's giving it his all but looks like Patrick Ewing's last days out there. Here's to hoping rest will help.

Chris Corley 8 years, 7 months ago

Thanks, Jaybate. Stepping away from the ledge.

Sparko 8 years, 7 months ago

Jaybate: this is right on the money. Kansas was dog tired anyway. Baylor hasn't expended much energy all season--and even played man to man as a surprise in the tournament. Baylor basically sand-bagged the last week of the season to prepare for this. Not a horrible strategy, but it does not speak well for the post season conference format.

enewell3 8 years, 7 months ago

Releford is a good defender and he is not our "worst" player. Our guys were getting beat off the dribble and around screens all night by Jackson which puts other defenders in bad position to help and half the time will end in a foul. Quit bagging on Travis he does so much and he doesn't get credit for it. He comes up with countless loose balls, long rebounds, he knows his role. Yes at times he has some trouble guarding smaller quicker guards but he is real good at guarding forwards that are bigger and a bad matchup for t-rob or withey. Releford isn't on the team for his jump shooting ability just remember that. You are the fan that acts like the biggest Kansas fan ever when we win but then act like you knew it all along when we lose that we aren't any good. I'm embarrassed that you are a "fan" of the same team as I.

Bruce Dial 8 years, 7 months ago

Here's my projection. KU is relegated to a 2 seed. Not a big deal, in and of itself, However, I think Missouri will win the tourney (I hope not) and the committee will award them with the 4th "one seed." I think North Carolina will win the ACC tourney and get the third "one seed."

If this happens, KU, who, at the least, should get the top 2-seed, won't be assigned it, but will be placed as the 2-seed in NCU's bracket.

Now, I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I think, as long as Roy and Bill are the coaches for their respective schools, we have an edge. I think Roy will always be torn by the emotional ties to KU, whereas Bill doesn't have that cross to bear, if you will, and will approach the game with a cold-blooded mentality.

Then again, what if Baylor beats Missouri, but Michigan State and North Carolina are both very impressive as they roll through their respective conference tourneys? Is it possible the Big 12 would have no #1 seeds, but 3 #2 seeds?

dinglesmith 8 years, 7 months ago

Bingo. I don't think you ever don't care about a game even if it's one-on-one in the driveway with your kid sister. However, the tournament just doesn't mean that much to KU. They want to win. They try to win. But KU has nothing to prove and that takes just a bit of edge off of it.

KU just won a conference and are ranked in the top 4 nationally. They weren't supposed to do either. Please guys, let's not bag on them and count them out based on one game.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

Every other team who needs to win it all..or get off the bubble. Teams like Texas, NC State, or how about UConn last year.

Saying that the Big 12 Tourney doesn't matter is disingenuous.

Why is it that tourney winners get the auto and not the season champs?

Ask the selection committee how it decides which majors are in or out.

jayhawker_97 8 years, 7 months ago

if KU keeps winning is a boring place to visit. arent' you guys (writers, journalists) thankful we have off days..? :(

Doug Cramer 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't mind this loss. It gives us an extra day to rest and prepare for the big dance.

Relaford does a lot of little things that do matter. If anyone is gonna get a critical 50-50 ball...its Relaford. He's a hustler...and I think he will be alright through the rest of his KU career.

At least we didn't lose to Mizzcrap.

Rock chalk Jayhawk !!!

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 7 months ago

jeez ku fans cant even get RELEFORDS name right

Arthur Hess 8 years, 7 months ago

What happened to the cliche "it's hard to beat a team three times in one year"? We didn't bring it last night and lost to a good team. Kentucky didn't look good yesterday. Syracuse lost. I am just glad we made it through the weekend without an injury.

Jeffery Barrett 8 years, 7 months ago

It's a cliche, but its true.

I haven't seen anyone mention that Baylor was embarrassed in Waco and they played like they wanted revenge........and they got revenge.

No big deal.

Bring on the brackets.

There, jaybate, is that easy for you to read?

Eric TheCapn 8 years, 7 months ago

Keegan couldn't get through the never-ending first "sentence," much less a cliche....

Clarence Haynes 8 years, 7 months ago

I thought when we went up by two around the 9:30 mark, Self should have called a set play. Instead, on a few KU possesions, our players just threw up shots early in the shot clock and they were not necessarily the best shots that could have been taken. We missed 2 or 3 shots and Baylor came back to capitalize by scoring as well as being able to take time off of the clock. Notwithstanding a less than stellar performance by our key players, it looked like coaching came up a bit short at a critical juncture.

agraves 8 years, 7 months ago

He did call set plays and EJ and TRob basically ignored it. I was at the game and after TRob took that 17 footer after dribbling down the court Self was about to throw a clipboard on the floor. Same as when EJ did the behind the back dribble with a spin move and tried a fadeaway from about 15ft...we r a very good offensive team when we play in the system but it's obvious that this team is not very good offensively when they try to be hot shots. And not to knock TRob but that how I felt he played. Didn't attack the boards...I can remember two plays where he stood at the free throw line waiting for a pass and a shot went up and he never moved. Just didn't seem he didn't have the focus and energy tonight. I mean when does TRob get out husseled on a rebound after a free throw like he did with about 2 min to play? Not very often!

Clarence Haynes 8 years, 7 months ago

TRob came down the court so fast that Self did not have time to call a play! Also, it is great that under certain siuations, TRob has the ability to bring the ball down court. In this case, however, he should have given the ball to a guard and position himself for inside play or a higher percentage jumper. IMO, he might have cost himself some NBA bucks last night.

lincase 8 years, 7 months ago

I know I will hear from the "these are 20-year-olds, they recover quickly" crowd, but this looks to me like a tired team. It is a long season, and the starters have played lots of minutes. This team needs the extra day of rest.

It will make me sick to root for Scott Drew's team tonight, but I will bite the bullet and do it. By the way, I though K-State was the leader for ugly uniforms until Baylor came on the court this weekend. It is a hard call as to which of them is uglier: the highlighter green or the camouflage. However, they were not the team playing ugly last night.

Jeffery Barrett 8 years, 7 months ago

Nothing wrong with the camo.

They're the second best uniforms in the conference.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Those were the most awesomest uniforms ever. If you were 9 years old and playing on a Salvation Army team.

jahawkdave 8 years, 7 months ago

Trob was often out quick'd and out jumped on the boards, which you rarely ever see from him. Withey was slower than usual, there was a lot of flat feet on defense all night. These are games like we usually have in our NCAA tournament losses and I'd like to see Self look for a spark when it's obvious what is happening.

This would have been a perfect game to get some energy off the bench from a guy like Young, He will make some silly fouls at times but always seems to have a motor and can make things happen.

I was worried about this game all day, and hope we have got this one out of our system, that was not KU out there last nIght, I'd rather be a rested 2 seed then a tired 1 seed.

captku 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree with you and lincase (and KnightVision) that this was the most lackluster that I recall seeing Withey play. Slow for the night just about sums it up. We will need him to quicken up for the next sessions. He is so much of a key to this team success. I know we are at the end of the season, but we did look very tired last nite. And you have a good point on TRob. He didn't play necessarily with enough agression. Young was about the only one that seemed to have some energy. And those unies were terr-ble.

LSHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree that losing to Baylor is not really a big deal. The team did look tired and maybe the extra day rest will help next week. If at the beginning of the year someone would have told you we would win the Big 12 and be a #2 seed in the NCAA I think most of us would have thought that was being optimistic, but I'll take it as long as Baylor beats MethU.

milehighhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

NPOY is the only advantage KU has with any of the things you mention.

More talent? Baylor. Future NBAs? Baylor.

Not sure where you get "outcoached" from, but agree with "out hustled"

jayhawkexpress 8 years, 7 months ago

Yea I agree we got the Big 12 coach of the year, why is nobody talking about that?

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't know who comes up with the article headlines - but someone really put in some effort on that one.

VaJay 8 years, 7 months ago

Look at it this way. At best, we would've been a weak #1 seed, with KY & Syracuse (even with their debacle yesterday) as the top 2 seeds. So we would've drawn a very strong #2 seed in our bracket.

So given we're probably be a #2 (unless a string of upsets happen this weekend), we will most likely get a weaker #1 in our bracket (Ohio St. or Duke), and with a little luck, go up against a #10 seed in the second round & maybe a #6 seed in the third.

We also get a little extra rest going in to the tournament. It's not all bad & I think coach Self will be teaching some valuable lessons in the next few days.

ferrari4eva 8 years, 7 months ago

KU will be #1 in the West. No chance Ohio state gets a #1.

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

Michigan St. is the only Big 10 team with any chance of a 1 seed. The only way that happens is if they win the Big 10 tournament and either Baylor wins today or someone other then Duke or UNC wins the ACC tournament. At this point, Missouri is likely to get the 1 seed in the midwest if they win today, and the winner of the ACC tournament if it's Duke/UNC will get the 1 seed out west if they win tomorrow. The 2 seed out west is a bad place for KU to end up right now because the second round game would be a mid-major guaranteed and 3 of the 4 potential Sweet 16 opponents are rematches from earlier on this season. Best case scenario for KU at this point is for Baylor to win, Duke/UNC to win the ACC, and Michigan St. to win the Big 10 so that KU would likely be the 2 seed in the midwest.

REHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

With the bench situation, this Jayhawk squad is not designed to play back to back games on subsequent days. Wesley and Young have been given ample opportunity this season to improve skills to defend. It does not appear to be in their genetic makeup. Tharpe just hasn't matured into a dependable sub for TT and EJ. If those three guys could have played major minutes Thursday night, starters might have been more energized for Friday's contest. If, if, if...there's your aunt storming back into the big picture. Stands to reason that our starters are more beat up than the general fandom knows, at this stage of a season offering very little rest or time for recovery. These kids have offered us lots of pride and enjoyment, to date. Gotta cut them some slack for their down game last night. They got whipped by a very talented group of players and a ding-dong coach who finally put together some killer Xs and Os. Even so, 3 pt. accuracy just worked out in Baylor's did their deeper bench.

FLJHK 8 years, 7 months ago

Good, succinct and accurate analysis.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

Almost completely agree..Young is really close to being that player although I thought it would have been 'foul a minute' Wesley.

We had zero freshmen contributions this year and last..wherever you place the blame.

Joe Joseph 8 years, 7 months ago

Kansas got a dose of exactly what it needed yesterday. If this doesn't serve as wake up call for the NCAA tournament, then winning the Big 12 conference tournament in an emotional game over Missouri (or even losing in an emotional game to Missouri) would not have either.

This loss will most likely help this team more than winning it would have.

miltnewton 8 years, 7 months ago

Despite public comments, Self doesn't care abount the Big XII tourney. Playing Mizzou, win or lose, would just be draining heading into to real deal. Self made no adjustments, called no timeouts or special plays to get some free points yesterday. His eye is on the prize...which is why he is the best coach in the country. For those worried about losing the 1 seed, it matters little. Just look at our history of 1 seeds for proof. For those worried about not being in St Louis, I would argue it's less pressure and easier to focus playing somewhere like AZ. Read Tyshawn's comments for further evidence that big time programs don't care about the conference tourney. Nobody remembers it anyway.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm more worried about teams like VCU, Bucknell, Bradley, Northern Iowa, ect.

Although I disagree about the importance of the Big 12 tourney..I do agree that for the elite teams, it normally isn't important.

But..who would have won the NCAA last year if the Big East did away w/their tourney.

Lin Rahardja 8 years, 7 months ago

KU just didn't play good defensel, we didn't recognize many of the set plays Baylor ran (lack of scouting perhaps). We didn't anticipate and fight through the screens, instead it seems that we let ourselves got caught in the screen with no apparent efforts. So overall just not a good effort. If we're injured, this is actually better for the team.

leonard 8 years, 7 months ago

Anyone who thinks last night's loss was due to a lack of scouting...doesn't know a darn thing about a darn thing.

FLJHK 8 years, 7 months ago

There was a point in last night's game that reminded me of the VCU game, even though Baylor is a far different and much more talented team than VCU. They were in the second half of the two games, where after being down double digits we came back to take a brief lead. In the VCU game the team seemed befuddled, and didn't know how to sustain their momentum. It was a failed coaching moment in my view and one I'm sure Coach Self has analyzed extensively. The same situation arose last night. Again it was a coaching moment, but I think Self purposely let it elapse, just to see how the team would react. That they reacted poorly only gives him more ammunition to get this team ready for the real tourney. I'm not saying Self didn't want to win - he always does - but that in concert with the physical benefit of not having to play 3 straight days, there were probably more teaching moments from losing last night than from winning.

I look for Coach Self to have this team totally focused and hitting on all cylinders for the NCAA and good things could be in store.

jayhawkexpress 8 years, 7 months ago

Yeah marginman KU is no mid-major, We should get rid of all this march madness competition crap and just have a committe pick the winners, like we used to.

Steve Brown 8 years, 7 months ago

Rest, regroup, reload, refresh come out next week with guns blazing.

Beast mode.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Hitting the sauce early?

If you watched the game you would know that the confrontation happened when the Baylor player yanked the ball from TRob; he got a technical for his effort.

dansmullet 8 years, 7 months ago

It's very rare for both teams to look good. If one is impressive offensively, then the defense is clearly having trouble so they dont look good. If the defense is impressive, the offense doesn't score as much, so they don't look good. Good job Tom.

Steve Jacob 8 years, 7 months ago

A #2 seed does make a difference in the first round this year. In almost every low-end tournament this year, the one or two seed has won the tournament. So even 15 seeds will have 20+ wins. Look at projected 15 seeds this year, LIU Brooklyn, Detroit, Loyola (MD), and Lehigh. All 22-26 wins. FYI, watch out for LIU Brooklyn,

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

Memo to KU Nation:

1] Quit whining...we played poorly....we lost..move on. 2] Kansas is playing with 4 1/2 players [No bench, injured Releford, no BenMac or Jammer] 3] It's damn hard to beat a team three times in one season. 4] The NCAA will find a way to screw both Kansas and Missouri - I guarantee a Big Ten Team [MSU,OSU] and an ACC team [NC, Puke] will end up with a don't worry about it. 5] Enjoy this amazing Kansas ride. Maybe all the rest of you saw this coming but I had no clue that this year would be this exciting and this much fun. 6] I hate it when this site becomes like every other college site in America....a bunch of crybaby complainers.
7] Please spell our players names correctly.

area51 8 years, 7 months ago

Which would you rather have a final four appearance or a big 12 tournament title and early exit in the NCAA tournament?

Jan Rolls 8 years, 7 months ago

Look at the KC star sports page today and you will see a picture of self cussing out tehan. Tehan is not very good yet he keeps playing him more than he should. It's not tehan's fault that he is not good it's self's for playing him. It will turn out the same as last year when he kept playing brady instead of elijah a much better athlete. There are better athletes on the bench but he plays tehan who loses his man just about every trip. Watch and review past games and you will see him running behind his man and wildly throwing his arms in the air. If he hits shots fine but isn't doing that so he is not contributing anything.

Joe Joseph 8 years, 7 months ago

" better athletes" than teahan on the bench...

Like who?

knighthawk 8 years, 7 months ago

We all dislike losing at anytime and yes, this was the Big XII tournament. Baylor needed this game many times more than we did. Still no excuse. However, is this team capable of making a six game run? Myself, I just feel it will be more possible with a loss that will be meaningless if we do make that run. All behavior will eventually succumb to a thing called 'drift' (falling back to old habits and losing intensity). I have complete confidence in HC Bill Self that he will use this game to prevent a future letdown which has a better chance of lasting for a 6 game run than adding 6 games to our current streak.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I understand Self's mentality of disrupting the other team. What I don't understand is why if he feels that way he doesn't press any more often than he does or switch up defenses more often. That's his call. Other thing is sometimes guys like PJ3 are going to be near impossible to stop, you have to show up on the other end every possession and work for a good shot. I thought Baylor just played well and KU just needed to bring it on offense if they wanted to win. Yes KU did give up too many offensive boards, other than that the defense wasn't "bad" but Baylor offense was better and KU's offense needed to kick it in gear to win. TT was really the only one that had a good offensive night.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Wow, slayr, that is stiff medicine coming from you.

I know we weren't our best and I know we had breakdowns, but worst in 20 years?

U know I trust u, so I gotta reindex a little, but I can't go all the way with you on that.

I mean that was an 11th ranked team and we were only down 4 with a few minutes to go.

I'll grab some Aricept and give it another think though.

Jeff Coffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree with most of the comments on here, except one.

We will be a #1 seed. We were going into the tournament and we left as a #1 seed.

The committee has always and will always value the regular season more. They come out every year and say we want the games in November to mean the same amount of those in March. Only ESPN thinks otherwise.

KU will be a #1 seed and MU will be a #3 seed (teach them to play a real schedule).

SU, UK, KU, and UNC are the 4 #1 seeds. MSU, Marquette, Duke, and Ohio State #2 Seeds. Missouri, Baylor, Michigan, and Georgetown #3 seeds.

We will have KU, Marquette, and Michigan in our bracket in the west.

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

My thoughts at this point are KU is not a lock for a 1 seed at this point like some people think. I feel pretty safe in believing that KU will be going out west to Phoenix with Michigan St. as the 1 and 2 seeds. Right now KU is the 1 seed, but if Michigan St. wins the Big 10 tournament, they will be the 1 seed and KU the 2 seed. This is honestly a better scenario for KU in my opinion because this is a team that has early exit written all over it. This has been my opinion pretty much all year because this is a pretty poor jump shooting team, can't make free throws consistently, and doesn't have a reliable third scorer. The only thing that makes me nervous about KU being the 2 seed out west though is the possibility of St. Mary's being the 7 seed out west. That is a second round match up that scares the crap out of me because Dellavedova is a great PG and St. Mary's is more than capable of knocking off KU in the round of 32. I hope something happens so that St. Mary's moves up to a 6 seed and KU plays someone like New Mexico, San Diego St., or Gonzaga in the second round because I think KU can beat those teams a lot more easily. UNM and SDSU are both good teams, but KU tends to play fairly well against Mountain West teams so those two don't really worry me too much.

Eric TheCapn 8 years, 7 months ago

That lead "sentence" is so convoluted I'd never bother reading the whole thing (sentence), much less the rest of the story. Try commas, periods, semicolons, and another attempt at journalism school.

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