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Matchup of Perry Jones III, Thomas Robinson should be doozy

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson comes out to defend agianst a shot from Texas A&M forward Khris Middleton during the first half on Thursday, March 8, 2012.

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson comes out to defend agianst a shot from Texas A&M forward Khris Middleton during the first half on Thursday, March 8, 2012.

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— Perry Jones III, the sleeping giant of the Big 12’s sleeping giants, awakened on his opening day of the postseason Thursday in the Sprint Center.

Jones, Baylor University’s long-armed, 6-foot-11, 235-pound sophomore from Duncanville, Texas, doesn’t always put himself in the right spots to take advantage of his length. At times, he seems to avoid contact. Too often, some teammates fail to realize what they have in him and don’t look to feed him.

None of those shortcomings were in evidence when he and the Bears dominated Kansas State for much of the afternoon in scoring an 82-74 victory in a Big 12 quarterfinal.

Stationing himself closer to the basket more often than usual, especially in the first half, Jones looked for contact. Teammates looked for him, and look what happened. With on-site NBA scouts salivating, Jones amassed 31 points and 11 rebounds. By halftime, he had 21 points and eight boards.

Suddenly, the semifinal matchup between a much deeper No. 4 seed Baylor and a more intense, better organized Kansas, the No. 1 seed, takes on the feel of a big-time game, a tougher one to forecast than the seeds or one-sided regular-season results would indicate.

One game does not a season change, but with Baylor it’s so easy to believe it can do so much better than it did during a 12-6 regular season. Point guard Pierre Jackson is so driven, so quick, power forward Quincy Acy so scrappy, such a leaper, and Jones so very talented. When the Bears play with a purpose and the right guys take the shots, their ceiling is so high.

Teammates raved about Jones making both three-point attempts, but that wasn’t his most meaningful statistic. He made seven of nine free throws, attempting that many from the line for just the third time all season, a sign he welcomed contact instead of shying from it.

“Just being aggressive going to the hole,” Jones said, explaining the extra trips to the line. “Not really looking for the foul, but just going into the body, hopefully I get the call. Just being able to finish, and convert and-ones. And it’s postseason and you won’t get that many foul calls. You gotta be aggressive. You gotta be tough, and just attacking the glass, attacking the basket.”

In past confrontations with KU’s Thomas Robinson, Jones has looked more like a player in retreat mode. In this season’s two games — KU victories of 18 points and 14 points — Jones made 36 percent of his field goals and averaged 11.5 points, four rebounds and three free-throw attempts. Robinson shot .586 and averaged 21 points, 12.5 rebounds and 4.5 free throws.

Typically, Robinson’s will and power give him the edge against Jones, whose length has the potential to rattle Robinson.

Part of Jones getting so much done close to the basket had to do with him establishing position and teammates looking for him. K-State not doing enough to push him outside played a factor as well.

“During the course of the year, there have been times where we didn’t get him the ball as much as we should have,” Baylor coach Scott Drew said. “And that’s my fault.”

Credit a coach for recognizing his failures. Drew’s upbeat approach with players can lead to them taking advantage of him. In the two KU games, the Bears played more like a collection of All Stars than a driven, unselfish team.

When things get rough for the Bears Friday, can they play the smart basketball they played Thursday? And can Jones force his way inside against Robinson the way he did against K-State? The answer to those questions will determine the size of the hurdle Kansas must clear to advance to Saturday’s final.

Kansas junior 7-footer Jeff Withey, Robinson’s sidekick in the paint, expects to be facing a different Baylor, a different Jones today. At the same time, he sounds confident about going to battle with the same Robinson who has prevailed in past matchups.

“We just need to be physical with them,” Withey said. “Thomas definitely knows how to do that. (Jones) is a great player. He scored 31 today. It’s definitely going to be rough. They have a lot of length and a lot of explosion. They all can jump out of the gym.”

Improving post player Jordan Henriquez (22 points, 14 rebounds, four blocked shots) had a big game for Kansas State, but in the first half couldn’t keep Jones from doing so much damage close to the hoop.

“Thomas has the strength to keep him off the block for sure, so I think he’ll do that,” Withey said of Jones. “Even if he is on the block, I’ll be there to help him out. We’re so lucky we have so much length ourselves. We always talk about how Baylor has so much length, but Thomas is 6-9. I’m 7-foot. We have a lot of length too.”

The team with the strongest will for two-plus hours, not necessarily the longest arms, will advance.

Comments

Bob Thompson 7 years, 8 months ago

I am getting the feeling that Baylor will take over for Misery as the team to hate most. I just don't like Drew.

cklarock 7 years, 8 months ago

Let's not underestimate the dislikability of West Virginia. I see it as a like-for-like swap, minus the history.

But yes, also the Bears. The stupid paw thing their fans do is reason enough to dislike them.

Mike Kendall 7 years, 8 months ago

I was going to say---West Virginia could take over for Missery. Bob Huggins rubs me the wrong way!!!!!!

Jeremy Paul 7 years, 8 months ago

Two things: 1. Elijah Johnson is the best player on the team. When dude just lets relaxes and plays ball, he is fantastic. I think once those first couple 3's fell in, the confidence bloomed and he just went out and played. And I think next year, when he's "the man," watch out.

  1. To continue the conversation from a couple of weeks ago: it's now official all you Bobby Knight lovers--your boyfriend is a total idiot. I was going to let it slide the first time he said what a great player Johnson is coming off the bench, because just then Young checked in and I thought he might have been referring to him and that it was just a mistake. But no, then he went on and on about how great he is off the bench, and how many coaches in the country wouldn't love to have him coming in off the bench, and how much that says about your starters when you have him coming off the bench. No wonder he raves about how deep KU is--he doesn't even know who is playing!

As idiotic as that is though, that's not even the reason why he's an idiot. Two things he said today really showed just exactly how not smart he is. First he explained how he doesn't like the conference tournaments, and how they should do away with them. I'm not criticizing his opinion--I don't happen to agree with him, but he has every right to think that. The idiotic thing is that it's his job to announce the conference tournament! His employer is paying a lot of money for this product, and he's trashing the product to the customer! That would be like if your job was to be the P.R. guy for Coke, and you go on tv and tell everyone that Coke is bad for you and you shouldn't drink it. The suits at ESPN couldn't have been too happy with that one, and hopefully someone has the guts to correct him.

The second--and absolutely most idiotic--thing he said was his childish comment about how he thinks ex-coaches should be on the selection committee, and he thinks there are people on the committee who have never even been to a basketball game before. I truly hope he gets in trouble for that one. He completely denigraded and insulted the entire integrity of the process and of the sport with that one. Again, we all might disagree from time to time with the teams that make it in and that teams that don't, but that is sort of ridiculous to say anyway. How do we know who deserves to make it and who doesn't? Because Joe Lunardi tells us so? Anyway, I think the selection committee does a lot of hard work--throughout the entire season--and takes their responsibility very seriously. And for some jackass who doesn't even know who the starting guard is on a team he has sat courtside to watch--wait, not just sitting courtside to watch, but also to talk about and analyze--he doesn't even know who starts and who comes off the bench, and he thinks he should be on the selection committee and then insults those fine people by questioning if they've ever even been to a basketball game. What a fool.

rockchalkxii 7 years, 8 months ago

Pretty sure he is saying he would be a great option to come off the bench. And he's certainly not an idiot, he's one of the best college basketball coaches ever. Just saying (and I'm not even a fan of his announcing ability).

Jeremy Paul 7 years, 8 months ago

Well of course he'd be a great option coming off the bench. Robinson would be a great option coming off the bench. And so would Taylor. And so would Tom Brady and Albert Pujols. Of course a starter would be a great option coming off the bench. That's not what he meant though--he truly didn't know Johnson was a starter, and he repeated it 3 times. I never said he wasn't a good basketball coach. But he is an idiot.

Joseph Kuebel 7 years, 8 months ago

Completely agree. Michael Jordan would have been great off the bench! Appears that Knight has completely lost it in his old age. The mistakes just keep on coming with this cocky, arrogant old man. He was a great coach, K... That means that he must be a genius and can never be wrong, right? I don't like when people bring up past accomplishments to cover up present mistakes, and furthermore valid points regarding present mistakes. Don't worry, you're the grass hole. The guy needs to hang up the mike, and is such a jerk that people are afraid to correct him. He reminds me of a guy that never got his ass kicked and needed it really badly. He consistently has no patience or respect. I remember drawing devil horns and a pitchfork on his picture when I was 6 years old, my mother brings this picture to this day.

texashawk10 7 years, 8 months ago

I agree with Knight on your last two points. I think 2 months of games is a much better indicator how good or bad a team is as opposed to a 3-4 day tournament and that the regular season champ should be rewarded for being the best team in their conference for two months.

As for you're second point, Knight never said he personally wanted to be on the selection committee, but he does have a valid point about former coaches having a say in the selection process. I don't think it should be entirely former coaches, but having a couple of former coaches selection committee would add a new perspective about bubble teams and how good they actually are. Someone like Fran Fraschilla or Jay Bilas would be good to have on the selection committee. They are both former coaches (Bilas was an assistant at Duke for 3 years) who know a lot about the game and would be good additions to the selection committee.

hawkinNE 7 years, 8 months ago

So you're basically saying we should crown kentucky NC since they are number one? And before you go jumping down my throat, I realize you said conference "tournament " but a tourney is a tourney.

prusso25 7 years, 8 months ago

Well I mean, think about it, we played everyone twice in the Big 12 and came out with the best record. We are officially the best team in the Big 12 no matter what the outcome is in this tourney. Kentucky proved to probably be the best team in the country (Bill Self's words) but they have not had a chance to play everyone to prove it, so a national tournament hypothetically fixes this problem. The national tourney is a way to give everyone a shot, and the big 12 tourney is a way to get good seeding, not determine who is the best in B12. The reasons behind the two tournaments are totally different.

Jeremy Paul 7 years, 8 months ago

If 2 months of games is a much better indicator how good or bad a team is as opposed to a tournament, then should we do away with the NCAA tournament? Are you a fan of the BCS?

Ok, you're right--he never said that he personally wanted to be on the committee. But he trashed the members of the committee and insinuated that ex-coaches know everything, and then he proved himself wrong by not even knowing who the starters are in a game that he's watching. And I don't disagree with the idea at all. I think Fraschilla and Bilas are wonderful, they're smart, and I'm sure they would bring a lot of value to the committee. But the people on the committee are athletic directors and conference commissioners, and several have coaching experience. I think it takes a little bit of sports knowledge and experience to be in their positions in the first place, not to mention being on the committee. To suggest that some of them have never even been to a basketball game is extremely insulting.
http://www.bracketography.com/selection-committee/

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 8 months ago

I think what he means is conference tournaments should not be the automatic qualifier to get in the tournament. I would agree. Conference champions should get the automatic qualifier and the tournament should be to help teams improve their stock for the tournament. I for one am tired of seeing a team with a losing record win their tournament and get in the big dance only to get creamed.

yates33333 7 years, 8 months ago

Texas Hawk. I agree with your two points.

Regarding Knight as a coach. He coached in what was arguably the best league in America at the time (Big 10) and had the most wins of any coach for a while. He couldn't hack it at Texas Tech but that is a tough venue for recruiting basketball. I think it is idiotic to say Knight is idiotic. I don't know if he pays much attention to his role as commentator. His early comments sure did seem like he thought Johnson was a bench player. It appeared someone straightened him out later. He is perhaps suffering from that CRS disease. It happens to all of older folks. Anyway something has caused him to be a flatterer of KU basketball. I like that.

Phoghorn 7 years, 8 months ago

I did not mean for the list to be all-inclusive. Just a sample to indicate where I think Coach Knight belongs and to point out that he is not an idiot.

KGphoto 7 years, 8 months ago

Bob Knight is not an idiot in basketball terms. He's an idiot in life, but in basketball he's just getting old.

Phoghorn 7 years, 8 months ago

So, an idiot holds the record for most wins by a Div 1 Coach? Coach Knight is among the best, along with Wooden, Allen, Sutton, Krzxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxsky and someday Self.

bad_dog 7 years, 8 months ago

Doesn't Coach Consonants hold the record for most Div. 1 wins?

Didn't it occur just this year and Bobby K was there to congratulate him?

Knight was a great coach, but is losing steam as a commentator. And Brent Mushberger is even worse. Perhaps if they were broken up as a broadcast team, each would improve a bit?

I just hope Coach Knight tells us some more about what great athletes the dancers are. I don't disagree a bit and it makes for some pleasant, non-controversial discussion and viewing.

Phoghorn 7 years, 8 months ago

Bad Dog is right - I missed that somehow. Hopefully someday Coach Self will pass 'em both!

yates33333 7 years, 8 months ago

You mean Allen-Harp? Sutton? Larry Brown and Hank Iba and McCracken, or something like that, they were great. That boozy dude at UConn aint bad, nor is the guy from Syracuse, nor, and I hate to say this, are Roy and Dean. Come to think of it there are a lot of "the best."

VaJay 7 years, 8 months ago

To your point about EJ being the best player on the team - have you been watching this whole season? This game was not typical of EJ's season, more of an aberration. Typically he has done a good job on defense, but on offense has been reluctant to drive & has hurt us on occasion with a tendency to jack up 3's regardless if he's hitting them or not.

While he may excel next season, he is scoring at half the rate of Tyshawn & TRob, is shooting 33% from 3 (vs. 44% by Tyshawn).

Thank goodness he stepped up today & covered for an obviously fatigued Tyshawn. When he consistently does the things he did today over the course of several weeks, then you can begin to make that argument.

Jeremy Paul 7 years, 8 months ago

I've been watching this whole season. And I'll agree with you that this game was not typical of his season. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out. He's had a terrible year. I've made comments on here previously about how disappointing he has been playing. And you sure are correct about his reluctance to drive--it drives me crazy because he's a freakygood athlete and can create a lot of scoring. And he does have a tendency to jack up 3's regardless if he's hitting them or not. And thank you because I think you just proved my point. He has been reluctant to drive which is a bad think because he's the best player on the team and he should be way more agressive. And having a tendency to jack up 3's regardless if he's hitting them or not--please tell me how he would know if he is hitting them without shooting them? By your logic, since he hasn't been hitting them this year, then he shouldn't have shot them today. Were you cursing him everytime he jacked one up today?

I think Withey is the tallest and the best shot blocker on the team, and I think Robinson is the strongest and the toughest and the best finisher on the team, and I think Releford is the best defender and the most consistent on the team. And I think Taylor is the fastest player on the team and can do a lot offensively and defensively. But as far as the best basketball player on the team--if I was at the playground just watching some dudes playing basketball--I would absolutely say that Johnson is the best player on the team. And yes, today was an aberration, because he finally played the way he is capable of playing.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 8 months ago

It does take a genious (Coach Self) to figure out that when D doesn't work EJ out of his shooting slump, he needed to find something else. So he takes another need - getting TT some rest without a major pg contributor on the bench, and solves both problems by asking EJ to run the team on O. EJ has been coming out of his funk over the last few games as he lead G responsibilities have increased. There is also the added benefit of him being so much more reliable (lo TO's) with the ball in his hands the majority of the time. It is genius in so many ways.

And as much as Perry is likely to be used and abused again, it isn't even the dominance of TRob and Jeff over him, it is also that Jackson is going to be abused by TT again. The dogs ability to eat is based on being fed.

Eliott Reeder 7 years, 8 months ago

Wow... does it take a "genious" to figure out how to spell 'genius'!?! Apparently so...

Hank Cross 7 years, 8 months ago

Agree with Knight 100% on getting rid of the conference tourneys. Playing a team like gonzaga right now would be so much more interesting than playing Baylor for a 3d time.

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

To your first point...that's a pretty bold statement considering we have TRob - conference player of the year, sure fire first team all-American, possible National POY, as well as Tyshawn - first team all-conference, according to Bill Self playing the best basketball over the stretch of a conference season of anyone we've had since Self's been here. I've been talking about this for weeks now, the tendency of fans to get so caught up in the frenzy of the moment that they are prone to fantastic hyperbole. Tyshawn's everyone's favorite Jayhawk, Releford is the best perimeter defender we've ever had, Withey is so much better than Cole, EJ is the best player on the team, etc. I am a huge EJ supporter, but one game against aTm isn't going to change that he is at best our third best player this year. Next year you may be right. I hope you are.

To your points about Bob Knight - I agree he's a buffoon. The "EJ off the bench" comments (where he clearly was oblivious to the fact that he started) were comical. I don't think ESPN necessarily is freaking out about his comments about the conference tournaments. To me it wasn't something that would have caused anybody to think "huh...he's right! Why am I even watching this?" and turn the channel (no where near as bad as Billy Packer in the KU-UNC Final Four game declaring "it's over" when KU was leading 40-12 in the first half). You're also right about his comments regarding the committee. It does undermine their credibility when he says those things.

However, I agreed with him on both counts. They should do away with them. The conference tournaments are solely about making money. Just like the BCS in football. That's what the NCAA and all of these conferences are all about - their bottom lines. Just because the NCAA tournament tries to legitimize them by making the winners automatic qualifiers for the big dance is irrelevant (kind of like MLB having their all-star game decide home field advantage for the World Series. Adding actual incentives doesn't legitimize the spectacle). What did we have a whole 18 game round-robin conference season for? To decide seeding against the same teams everyone just played twice? It's ridiculous. This kind of gets back to the lame argument Kimmy English was making, where he feels the real conference champs are the ones decided by the tournament. Of course he feels that way, having finished two games behind KU for the conference title. The grind of a league season is the best indicator of who the best team in the conference is.

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

(cont.)

To his point about the selection committee - they're hacks. Everyone knows it. It's why everyone keeps blasting them for placing so much weight in the outdated and severely flawed RPI. I've heard countless basketball experts criticize the selection committee. Here's a quote from Jay Bilas last year:

"I wonder if some people on the committee know whether the ball is round," said Jay Bilas. "That sounds harsh. But I'm wondering. These were bad decisions. They're indefensible."

Or here's another one from Bilas:

“Everyone talks about the ‘eye test.’ The committee clearly used the ‘closed eye test,’ ”

And it doesn't stop at ESPN. Seth Davis and Greg Anthony of CBS - the network that airs the tournament - were "shocked" at some of their picks. Sports Illustrated, yahoo sports, the bleacher report, the list goes on and on. And Bob Knight is right - there aren't enough actual basketball people on the committee. It's all ADs. Administrators. There is one member who has assistant coaching experience. No former head coaches. And just to seal the deal on the fact that the selection committee is comprised of a bunch of idiots - Dan Beebe is on the committee. The same Dan Beebe that was at the helm doing nothing when the Big XII almost folded.

jaybate 7 years, 8 months ago

Ict, this post is a clinic in manning up.

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

Why thank you. Glad those online community college writing classes are finally paying off! :)

Jeff Schartz 7 years, 8 months ago

That is HiLaRioS! (picturing clown-cars, pies in faces, crotches getting nailed by flying objects, Bobby Knight sitting at a scorer's table, wearing a red sweater, jaw flapping...)

John Randall 7 years, 8 months ago

To be honest, EJ looks to be carrying his own bench around with him some of the time – not today, for sure!

cklarock 7 years, 8 months ago

Coach Knight is fun to listen to because he's such a cantankerous crabby old man. My wife and I have a drinking game for when he says "shot fake." Occasionally, he'll actually offer some basketball insight, which sadly sets him apart from most of the other color guys out there.

If we can't get Bilas, Knight at least makes me laugh.

All that said, I'm a fan of ABDV - Anybody But Dukie V.

Michael Bratisax 7 years, 8 months ago

Great post although I disagree w/you on one key thing.

EJ has the potential to be the best but TRob and Tyshawn have proved themselves over the season. EJ has had flashes but without consistency. If you're the best, you need to bring it on a regular basis.

And..what happened to Knight? I use to love his insight. Now he doesn't seem to even bother to prepare before the game.

I looked at this years selection committee and I think they are well qualified.

http://www.bracketography.com/selection-committee/

I wouldn't have too much of a problem using ex-coaches but I wonder where Knight would put Indiana.

Still, all people are to some degree biased...hard not to let your life's history affect (effect?) your thinking process.

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

I went to that same site earlier. Again, my problem is that they are all administrators, with very little perspective "in the trenches." Almost no coaching experience. We'll see how they do this year, but last year was one of the worst hatchet jobs I've seen when putting together the field.

As for where to put Indiana...that's really tough. They just lost their senior starting point guard to an ACL tear, so the committee will have to evaluate the team that will be playing in the tournament, not the one that amassed its current resume. My guess is they slip down to the 5 or 6 line.

And you had it right - it's "affect." Affect when used as a verb (as per your example), effect when used as a noun (for example - "The effect of his injury could be staggering.")

jaybate 7 years, 8 months ago

Knight?

He's a basketball genius, an ego maniac, a jerk, a recovering abusive personality, and he's bored spitless doing color commentary.

The only coaches he cares about are his son Pat and his former assistant, Coach Consonants, both of whom add to his legend when they do well.

Knight is just like all the all-time great coaches that go into broadcasting. They are bored to death after one season. And he ought to be.

He is sitting next to Brent Mussberger, who is obtuse even for a play-by-play commentator.

Knight can't help but get a little juiced about something or other in a game, because he's been a highly skilled coach for longer than a lot of board rats have been a live.

But mostly he's trying to stay awake, collect a pay check and once he is done at the microphone in a few years, he will sneer and admit he was just sucking the money teat.

The whole liaison with Dick Vitale near the end of his coaching career and then in his post coaching career appeared never to be anything other than two old coaches, one great one, and one mediocre one, trying like hell to make sure they both got into the basketball hall of fame and hung on awhile collecting pay checks awhile longer, after they were too old to have Q-Ratings right for the markets they were catering to.

Neither guy had any real use for the other except as a tool to promote the other's career. Nothing. And they're pros. And they know it. And they make no apologies for it. Since they both got in the hall, they hardly refer to each other, or appear together. Knight appears to think Vitale is an idiot. And Vitale appears to think Knight was just someone that could help get him where he wanted to go.

Back to Knight at the microphone. Knight is 71. He's got a wife, kids and grand kids he wants to leave something to. He's collecting checks. He's keeping himself visible. He's selling his legend for money. And its boring him to death.

jaybate 7 years, 8 months ago

Knight got bored with basketball long ago. He saw through how corrupt it all was from the beginning, when he still had dark hair and a plaid sport coat, probably even back when he was at Army. And shortly after his '76 team went perfect he had proven he could beat the game, the corruption and all. He played around for awhile at trying to embarrass Chancellors, ADs, coaches, and sports media into cleaning the cess pool up. It didn't work and he probably knew it wouldn't. He just like poking all the self satisfied hypocrites.

Back in the late 80s, Knight went on record in Murray Sperber's "College Sports, Inc." that a blue chip recruit cost a university about $150K for four years. Knight said that when he was still a dominant coach in the game.

Knight told all the press to their faces that most of them did not care about the game, that most of them were just whores collecting checks and shilling for home teams.

Knight refused to come to the Big Ten conference coaches meetings with media, because he said he did not want to associate with a bunch of cheaters, or something close to that.

Bob Knight was appalled at college basketball's values and corruption, but not so much so that he did not want to make his living off it, and beat it.

IMHO, Knight grew terminally bored after he won his 4th ring--after he proved he could win rings without recruiting the best talent, without even having very good players. No one, not even Bill Self, could have won a ring with Knight's last ring team.

And again, IMHO, Knight only went to TTEch for some money and to get his kid a head job. But Knight appeared to decide that university administrators cannot be trusted to make good on their reputed promises to hire one's kid, so he appeared to walk out in the middle of a season, again, IMHO, to make good and damned sure his kid at least got to put interim head coach on his resume.

Knight said he had lost his fire to compete. Heck, yes, he had. Probably back in Bloomington.

How can Knight possibly stay interested, when he would probably rather be fishing, or hunting, or just BSing with Bill Parcells, rather than listening to Brent Mussberger drone on 2-3 nights a week this time of year?

The role of color commentary is not a bully pulpit.

It is a slot to hold eye balls for ratings.

It is a place to sell soap and cars.

jaybate 7 years, 8 months ago

Television is not a medium persons can remember anything that is said in any detail. Research proves that time and again. Smart coaches know it. They have some vanity and like getting to control the mike that they feel has been used against them for so many years. But once they hold it, they know they are just like any other nob holding it.

Some guys like Vitale and Phelps, guys who know they were never first rate coaches anyway, actually view a broadcasting career as bigger than D1 Head Coach.

Guys like Wooden and Knight and Crum and Dean? It just bores them to death. Wooden tried one year and sucked, if I recall correctly. Dean did a few tournament commentaries at half times and sucked and knew it and returned to pulling strings at UNC behind the scenes. Crum? He and Joe B. Hall did the smart thing. They got a little radio show in a small market and had some fun with each other. At least they got some checks and didn't have to listen to anyone but another guy who knew his shizz.

Here is what I have observed of Bob Knight over the years. He appears to never want to let anyone get the better of him at anything. He's competitive to master understatement. Over the years he has appeared to stick it to other coaches, to his administrators, to his universities, to the media, to Puerto Rico's justice system, and now he is apparently sticking it to ESPN and all the fans that watch him.

I suspect I would like Bob Knight a lot, if I met him in person and he wanted me to like him, but not if not.

He seems to have a switch that he turns on and off regarding his charm and commitment to excellence.

Right now it seems to be off.

Right now he doesn't seem to care very much about what he is doing.

Right now he seems to have decided that TV is just an ox to gore as long as someone lets him.

He's a hard guy to like, because if he can't win, he appears to like to make it so at least you can't either.

How can anyone in basketball win with Bob Knight acting as he does with a mike?

I know I feel like I lose every time I listen to him, even though I know he is a basketball genius.

He knows so much, but he just seems to be unwilling to share it out of some kind of contempt, or maybe ESPN is muzzling him out of fear, or out of not really caring about the game either.

Maybe someday he will write a book about all of this. I hope he does. But if he does, my hunch is that the book would turn out to be a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, too.

Why someone doesn't pull together a round table of great old coaches like Knight and let them analyze games instead of the likes of sports journalists like, oh, say, Jason Whitlock, I don't know.

I would pay to watch great retired coaches really pick apart a game before hand and do a forensic of it afterwards. They could teach us all so much, if only they would.

They are our coaches after all.

Scott Smetana 7 years, 8 months ago

Perry Jones vs. Kansas... should be awesome. Wait... that's what we said the last 4 times they met... yawn.

Beating Drew's zone and gameplan is easier than getting wet at the pool.

Michael Bratisax 7 years, 8 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking although I enjoyed the article.

monkeehawkSL8 7 years, 8 months ago

THE EX-COACH SEEMS TO BE SUFFERING FROM SOME TYPE OF PROBLEM THAT EFFECTS 1) HIS MEMORY, SHORT TERM 2) HE REPEATS HIMSELF, HE REPEATS HIMSELF, HE RE...........3) MAKES STATEMENTS THAT OFTEN OFFEND AT LEAST 1/2 TO 2/3RD'S OF THE PEOPLE, FAN'S HE'S ADDRESSING 4) HE REPEATS HIMSELF 5) IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT A PLAYER FOR 5-10 MINS ONLY TO BE CORRECTED THAT SOME OR MOST OF HIS INFO IS INACCURATE, OR HE LOCKS ONTO SOMETHING AND WON'T LET GO OF IT LIKE A RABID PITBULL. GOD GRANT US THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS WE CAN NOT CHANGE, COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS WE CAN, AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING BOB, DO YOU NEED A SPONSOR? KEEP COMING BACK

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

KUfaninPA - "If 2 months of games is a much better indicator how good or bad a team is as opposed to a tournament, then should we do away with the NCAA tournament?"

That's different. That's for a NATIONAL champion. Not a conference champion. KU didn't spend 2 months playing everyone in the country twice like they did in the Big XII. How could they? There's too many teams. But it's like baseball. You play 162 game regular season, and if you finish with the best record of the teams in your division...you win the division! You don't have a 4- or 5-team playoff to decide who goes to the next stage of the playoffs! It's idiotic, and college basketball is the only one to do this.

Martin Rosenblum 7 years, 8 months ago

I just hope we don't see those retina-burning, road-crew vest colored uniforms when we play Baylor Friday.

kerbyd 7 years, 8 months ago

Were those things butt ugly or what? That is like what I where when I am out cycling so the cars won't hit me.

John Randall 7 years, 8 months ago

Am I just an old fogey, or do green and gold seem more like team colors than black and chartreuse?

I think Addidas and Nike have started a Wardrobe Malfunction sweepstakes. Either that or Michael Jackson's old wardrobe designers found a new asylum to work out of.

Martin Rosenblum 7 years, 8 months ago

It's like Digger Phelps fashion statement of matching his tie with the highlighter color he holds during broadcasts.

Phoghorn 7 years, 8 months ago

No doubt! Just listen to the game on the radio - it will save your eyes.

ironhead80 7 years, 8 months ago

All year the media have been talking about how talented Baylor have been which they have shown nothing but looking like an all airport team as John madden would say. SO, I'm not Holding my breath ther going to show up Friday!!!!!!!!! SERIUOSLY!!!!!!!! Yes they beat k state and Perry LAY LOW scored #31!, So What!!!!!!!!

baldwinjhawk 7 years, 8 months ago

K State looked like they wanted to go home... so they did. Pitiful how they can totally terrorize mizzou and then they don't show up against an OU or a Baylor. Baylor played ok today, but seriously... I was watching the big east tourney and I WANT Syracuse. They play the same matchup zone Baylor does. Please everyone play zone against us...please!

John Randall 7 years, 8 months ago

You didn't really say Syracuse zone is the same as Baylor's, did you?

That's like saying a Hemi is the same as a Chevy V-8.

XEPCT 7 years, 8 months ago

I want to play Syracuse too ... because if we do play them it means we will be deep in the tourney ... final four deep

nuleafjhawk 7 years, 8 months ago

I'm hoping we can bring out some of our own new uniforms for tonights game.

A nice shiny chrome finish with crimson and blue sequins.

Martin Rosenblum 7 years, 8 months ago

You're on the cutting edge, nuleaf! How about unis made from old pompoms?

KansasComet 7 years, 8 months ago

I think Coach Knight was trying to say that whenever EJ is in the game whether he is starting or when he checks back into the game off the bench, he makes a difference. I think he loves EJ because he is in control most of the time. We all know that EJ is a starter this year.

RJ King 7 years, 8 months ago

Regardless of starting or bench, what we'll need in every game the rest of this year are a bunch of FINISHERS. Defend the entire shot clock, go for every rebound, extend - not sit on - a lead, and make free throws.

Refs calling or not calling fouls could be a big part of today's match up.

Carl O'Hair 7 years, 8 months ago

I have read all these comments and only heard the name of my favorite "color" man, Fran Fraschilla one time and that time was as an ex-coach who may serve quite well on the selection committee.

All the howling about Knight is probably called for but I don't think the man we will hear from during the Dance, Clark Kellogg is any better. In fact, I would take Knight any day over him. However, back to Fraschilla, I find him to be the best informed person at the game no matter where he is working. He talks about the two teams playing and extols the virtues of the best players on both teams and always knows their stats and so forth, better than anyone else does.

Maybe we should demand that Fran work the Big 12 Tournament next year to keep things going as well as anybody else can. Surely both Fraschilla and Knight are better than Dickie Dookie, any day.

Kye Clark 7 years, 8 months ago

I really like Fraschilla as well. Sadly they had him doing ACC games yesterday. I don't mind Kellogg, although I don't think he is anything special. And I actually don't mind Bob Knight. He got brought up mainly because during the in-game discussion everybody noticed his gaff about EJ coming off the bench (and make no mistake, it was a gaff, not some of these rationalizations I've read about him meaning that EJ is a good whether he's starting or coming in after a taking a breather on the bench), and because he repeatedly has said KU is a deep team. Inevitably, when this was pointed out some people feel the need to rush to his defense. The funniest among these that I have seen have been that pointing out his mistakes is deplorable because we are picking on a senior citizen (really?), and that he has all these wins and championships, so that must mean he is a great announcer...right? The whole "Coach Knight knows more about basketball than you" schtick. As if greatness in one aspect of the sport automatically translates to greatness in all other aspects.

Anyway, I tried to think of a better color man than Fraschilla, and couldn't. Bilas is really good too, but he can come off as pretty full of himself. For play-by-play guys, Gus Johnson is tops in my book, and I like Dan Shulman, but hate that he is always paired with "Dickie Dookie" as you call him.

yates33333 7 years, 8 months ago

I too think Fraschilla is the best color commentator in the game.

Steve Brown 7 years, 8 months ago

Kevin Harlan, big time.

Football, Lindsey Nelson for you really old timers. He proceeded Keith Jackson as the voice of college football. What a radio voice of action.

yates33333 7 years, 8 months ago

Are you sure Taylor was pooped. I read somewhere that he had been sick.

I think when you play each team home and away in your league you don't need a tournament at the end of the season. These tournaments are done to make more money. Probably so universities can employ faculty who bitch about private enterprise making more money.

Mike Kendall 7 years, 8 months ago

Perry Jones the 3rd-----you should have came to KU when you had the chance. I guess T-Rob will have to take you to school. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

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