Originally published June 15, 2012 at 11:46p.m., updated June 16, 2012 at 04:12p.m.

Milton Doyle to play basketball at Kansas University

Chicago combo guard to attend summer school classes Monday


Milton Doyle, a 6-foot-4, 185-pound combo guard out of Chicago’s Marshall High, will be attending Kansas University on basketball scholarship this season.

Doyle — he averaged 19 points, seven rebounds, five assists and five steals a game his senior season — will arrive in Lawrence on Sunday and begin summer school classes on Monday, sources told the Journal-World.

At KU, he’ll be a roommate of fellow freshman newcomer Tyler Self.

Doyle, who visited KU on May 14-15, graduated high school earlier this week. He had to wait on his final grades to be matched with his ACT score to see if he’d qualify for a scholarship at KU. Though the NCAA Clearinghouse typically does not officially clear any players for eligibility until late summer, it is believed Doyle will be fully qualified to play college basketball as a freshman. He and family members celebrated the good news on Friday night at a going-away party for Milton in Chicago, organized by his mom, Lisa.

Lisa explained the specifics of Doyle's eligibility situation to the Chicago Tribune on Saturday. Doyle recently signed a financial aid agreement with KU, the Trib reported, but, like all freshmen, needs to be cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse to be on scholarship.

In Doyle's case which goes before the Clearinghouse, his mom said he has the grades and test scores to be eligible next season, but he’s awaiting approval of two courses he took online because of complications following his transfer from Chicago Tilden to Marshall after his sophomore year.

“I thought we had taken care of this at the end of his junior year," Lisa told the Tribune. "We went to Tilden to get all of this settled. But most of the staff at Tilden was either fired or transferred so the papers never went to Marshall.”

Doyle, who last month scored 20 points in the Chicago Public League all-star game, is unranked nationally by He missed his entire junior season after transferring from Tilden to Marshall because of a broken wrist. He did not play AAU ball in July last year, instead concentrating on his academic work.

Doyle chose KU over Marquette, a school he would have visited had things not worked out in terms of receiving a scholarship offer at KU.

Anrio Adams, a 6-3 guard from Seattle’s Rainier Beach High, also graduated this week and is planning on arriving at KU on July 1 (if he has qualified academically), he reports on his Facebook page.

“I call him the quiet assassin,” Marshall High coach Henry Cotton told the Chicago Tribune. “He just goes about his job relentlessly. If he had waited (until second semester instead of committing to FIU) he could have gone anywhere he wanted to, but he was loyal to the people who showed him interest when no one else did. That’s the way he is.”

Cotton told the Chicago Sun Times that Doyle, who is known for his slashing ability is most effective when the game is on the line.

“The one thing I learned coaching him this year was that when he wants to score, when he really wants to score, he’s going to score,” said Cotton, whose team won 3A regional and sectional titles. “He will find a way. He will get to the rim. He will knock down mid-range shots, pull up, go get a teammate’s miss and put back an offensive rebound. He’s an exciting talent, a natural player who does things you can’t teach. What I’m looking forward to seeing is what he becomes when a college program develops his body.”

He’s impressed the Chicago media.

“Doyle is the ultimate sleeper, an underrated talent who fits the cliché ‘his best basketball is ahead of him’ perfectly. It’s true,” wrote Joe Henricksen of the Chicago Sun Times. “Doyle is just scratching the surface. He’s long, wiry, active, extremely athletic and his skill level has improved the more he plays.

“Doyle remained a rather unknown. Florida International snuck in and nabbed a commitment from Doyle last fall before the kid’s talent blew the top off and he became a hot commodity. Thomas, however, was fired following the season and Doyle was back on the open market. ... You just don’t typically find a talent this late in the recruiting game like Doyle, who has tremendous upside and untapped potential,” Henricksen added.

Noted “A stellar athlete who was among top five players in Chicago Public League based on performance this past season.  Excels at slashing and has a tremendous mid-range game.”

Academic honors: KU’s basketball team was one of nine men’s NCAA Tournament qualifiers and more than 950 teams overall handed public recognition awards by the NCAA based on their Academic Progress Rates (APRs). Their scores ranked among the top 10% in their respective sports, USA Today reports. Individual team scores weren’t released.

Early Father’s Day: Former KU All-American Wayne Simien and wife Katie are celebrating Thursday’s birth of son, Shepherd. They also have daughters Selah and Rael and a son, Simon.

“My Father's Day gift came early with the arrival of our 4th child, Shepherd Allen Simien!” Simien wrote on Twitter on Thursday. “Lots of folks asking why we named our son Shepherd. My heart has always been moved with Jesus’ identity as the Good Shepherd, John 10:11,” Simien explained.


Steve Kubler 1 year, 10 months ago

There is a reason to take a shot at unrated players. Just look at Jeremy Lin, it's rare but it happens. Finding that diamond in the rough has to be a coaches dream.

Not saying Doyle is that diamond, just saying not to rate a guys KU career before he steps on the court.

I'm ready for midnight madness!


RockChalkDoc 1 year, 10 months ago

I love Shepherd's middle name. Good job, Wayne. Congatulations to one of my top 3 favorite Jayhawks of all time.


jaybate 1 year, 10 months ago

Otherwise, OAF remains in my active vocabulary.

For what its worth, I believe savvy media professionals understand that online communities can be fed stories that incite commentary that contributes to a coach getting run, as well as, righting wrongs.

Any technology, any medium, can be used for good or ill.

But just because a medium can be used for ill is not excuse for not using it in the pursuit of good.

Until you, or someone else, can persuade me otherwise, this NCAA scholarship convention that lets coaches run a player without a consequence, while the player has to sit out a year to transfer, appears an ugly, ornerous institution unworthy of Division One college basketball; one that exploits the young men, and one that I will continue to refer to as creating OAFs.

NCAA, change this rule, or explain why not.

Chancellors, advocate to change this rule triggers OAFs, or explain why not.

ADs, advocate to change this rule that triggers OAFs, or explain why not.

Coaches, advocate to change this rule that triggers OAFS, or explain why not.

Sports journalists, advocate to change this rule that triggers OAFs, or explain why not.

A lot of young men are losing a year of eligibility because of this rule and this appears to harm a lot of young men trying to prepare for a professional career in basketball over seas, or at home.

The rule is even triggering DanR to feel disapproving of jaybate for describing one of the effects of this rule as OAF.

Change it, or explain it.

The people at the virtual cafe are talking now.

DanR, would you pass the virtual cream and sugar?


jaybate 1 year, 10 months ago

Savvy media professionals understand that fora like this one are something that can not only generate clicks, but also act as countervailing forces to monopoly news sources, like a head basketball coach, or a head football coach.

Online communities are mostly large versions of small town cafes where people used to break and gossip about the local high school, or college team. Gossip in old cafes used operate independently of the talking points of coaches and of news reporters. Mostly the cafe gossip was just socializing. But when important issues surfaced, cafe gossip often vetoed the talking points of the coaches and reporters. Savvy coaches and reporters began to realize they had to pay some attention to what the gossip in the cafes was and they had to anticipate and shape it on major issues. Politicians learned the same thing.

Online communities are Americas new cafes.

I am glad you took a moment and responded to my use of One and Flush (OAF) to describe recruits with lesser chances of lasting more than one year before transferring and then unfairly being forced to sit out a season.

I am glad you opined frankly that you don't like OAF as a label for this unfair circumstance certain recruits are placed in because the NCAA rule appears patently unfair to the players.

I wish you would also take the time to write more about this unfair rule in language that you believe will appeal to more persons in our virtual cafe.

Or, alternatively, I wish you would explain to those in the virtual cafe why this seemingly unfair NCAA rule is in fact in the best interests of the player. Were you to make a case that makes clear to me that the NCAA rule is fact fair to players, or at least more fair for them than a more symmetric rule, then you could surely get me to stop using OAF and instead advocating for the virtue of this seemingly unfair rule that you had revealed.


DanR 1 year, 10 months ago

Please, enough with the one and flush (OAF) narrative. Just bury it. It's not clever. It's offensive. While they're here, these guys are Jayhawks, not "bodies," turds, or whatever else some of you think the non-starting bench players and outward transfers are. Bleh. Maybe I shouldn't expect so much from the top posters on here.

On a lighter note, welcome, Mr. Doyle! May you reach your full potential and surpass everyone's expectations (like so many others before you) in the crimson and blue.


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 10 months ago

  1. Don't get picked

You're gonna get turnovers. It happens. It's inevitable. Self will be upset, but he knows it can't be avoided completely. But if you're gonna turn the ball over, turn it over doing something otherwise productive, like passing for a cut. If the cutter doesn't move the way you expected and the pass goes out of bounds, it sucks, but Self can live with that. That's the only way I can explain the fact that he never publicly strangled Tyshawn Taylor. However, if you turn the ball over making lazy passes or getting picked on the perimeter, Self will give you the hook and it'll be weeks before your feet touch the court again. This was the other thing that happened too often to Tharpe.

Valuing the ball doesn't mean never turning it over. There's always miscommunication, slick spots on the floor, plays that never materialize, etc. It does mean, however, that you're conscious of the fact that your defender wants the ball when it's in your hands, and that your teammates' defenders want the ball when it leaves your hands and that you do every thing you can to prevent them from getting it. Turnovers out of bounds stop the game and allow you to setup your D. Getting picked on the perimeter is an assist for the other team. Don't be that guy.

  1. Work on your own time.

Eventually you will want to be the guy that scores the points for the team. That's great, but work on that stuff on your own time. Hit the gym whenever you get the chance. Go to camps over summer. Do whatever it is you need to do to develop your scoring game, but do it on your own time. And of course, practice free throws a lot. Like the much maligned kicker, you can always be the guy that takes the technical shots.

Anyway, Milt, Chi, welcome to KU. Here's to a solid 4 years. If you can stick to this advice and live with not necessarily being the star, you'll have a good career here and honestly, you will become the best college basketball player you are capable of being. This is not an easy challenge, and players better than you have attempted this and failed (see Micah Downs, CJ Giles, J.R. Giddens, and Alex Galindo). I'm hoping you're not our next OAF. Prove your doubters wrong. Good luck.


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 10 months ago

  1. Brady Morningstar

Brady Morningstar wasn't an especially talented baller and is the subject of much ire among some KU fans. He was only decent on D, couldn't really create a shot, and couldn't reliably sink a jumper on O. How, then, did this unraked local kid manage to beat out a top 5 McDs AA, as well as a number of other more talented teammates for PT? For all of Brady's flaws, the one thing that he could do better than the ranked kids riding the pine was feed the post. When you're learning to pass, he's the guy you want to imitate.

The 3 out hi-lo offense relies on ball reversals to create easy looks in the post. If you can master throwing a lob pass over the defender to the post on the reverse, you will find yourself on the court a lot more often. Presently, we don't have anybody that has this skill to the extent that Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed did. Elijah Johnson can't do it. Travis Releford can't. I'm guessing none of the other guys are particularly good at it. But if you can feed the post, Self can find a use for you.

  1. Play D

Naadir Tharpe is our backup PG next year. He's better than you and he's the guy you need to beat out. He had a rough frosh campaign, but he's had a year in the system and knows Self's dog house better than anyone, so he's more motivated than you are to stay out of it. There are two things that he did that got him into frequent trouble as a frosh, and one of them was he forgot to play D. Sure, in the half court, he could usually stick with his guy okay. But when you're standing in front a kid with the ball, it's easy to remember to play D. The guy is right there. The time when kids forget to play D is when they're on the offensive side of the court. Almost every time Tharpe did something good on offense, he'd get too caught up in the moment of his play and his guy would beat him down court. Either that guy would score or the momentary lapse would cause a breakdown somewhere else. Regardless, whatever good thing Tharpe just did, it would be negated because he forgot to play D first. Always beat your man down the court. Always be ready to defend him even when your team has the ball.


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 10 months ago

Welcome to the team MD. I'm glad to have you, even if you weren't ranked and I want you to have a 4 yr career with us and not be the next OAF. Chi, if you're around, here's some advice for your brother on how to succeed at KU:

  1. Don't expect to play as a frosh.

A lot of people think that Bill Self doesn't like to play freshmen. This is untrue. He'll play any kid that will help his team win. Thing is, most freshmen won't. The only times KU has played freshmen under Self has been when a big senior class graduates (which is 2013, so you're SOL in that regard) or when they have too much talent to be ignored, a la Xavier Henry. Self may have told you that you can come in and compete for PT, and that's true, but it's equally true that you will more than likely lose that competition because we have better players than you that have been playing for us longer.

  1. Forget about scoring.

I don't know how good you are at hitting a pull up jumper or getting to the rim and, more importantly, Self doesn't care. However good you are at getting points, Self has guys playing for him that are better. You haven't played against teams full of the kind of talent that it takes to compete in high major D1 NCAA ball, and whatever you were able to do in HS, it won't work against your future opponents. Whatever areas of your offensive game need work right now, forget about them. If you want to succeed at Kansas, you need to be able to do something that the other guys we have can't or don't and scoring isn't going to be that. However, that leads us to number 3.

  1. Become a better passer.

If there is something worth putting effort into right now, it's becoming a better passer. If you touch the ball odds are you should be looking to pass the ball, not to score, not to drive. Someone wants you to make the extra pass to the open guy. Learn to pass the ball. Learn to be good at it. Learn to throw the ball cross court without getting picked off. Learn to feed the post without throwing the ball out of bounds or getting it tipped so that your post up has to catch it out of position. Learn the offense and under stand where passes are happening, when, and why. Then when you get the ball, more often than not, pass it.


IrishCharlie 1 year, 10 months ago

Oh Great, another true student athlete in KU's long history !


jaybate 1 year, 10 months ago

Mongrel Doggerel for the Freshman...

Milton Doyle comes to toil.

Perry Ellis will be very scary.

Zachary Peters will swat some skeeters.

Landon Lucas will jam with abandon.

Andrew White will soon take flight.

Anrio Adams will play con brio.

Evan Manning will do spot-up canning.

But Tyler Self just rhymes with Tyler.


Jackalope7 1 year, 10 months ago

I hope Doyle does well. After watching highlights on youtube and mind you I'm no scout. But, he doesn't seem to have too explosive nor is he all that fast. It's hard to tell since the talent around Doyle's team and the opposing team, seemed sub par at best. But, I may be missing something. We'll see what happnens. RCJH!


Jim Haack 1 year, 10 months ago

Congrats Wayne. We need more players / alumni like Wayne.


Jonathan Allison 1 year, 10 months ago

I can picture the boys vs girls 3 on 3 basketball games at the Simien household.



Jesse Johnson 1 year, 10 months ago

"You want to know what it's like to have a 4th kid? Imagine that you're drowning... and then somebody hands you a baby."

-Jim Gaffigan

Congrats to the Simien family!


Gil Ek 1 year, 10 months ago

At least two redshirts next year. Who???


CrimsonAndBlueForLife 1 year, 10 months ago

Welcome to Kansas, Milt! Great to have you aboard!


fearthephog512 1 year, 10 months ago

Doyle is a beast! He's a quick, consistent shooter, an accurate passer and a great athlete. From the highlights I saw, it seems Doyle loves playing defense, too, and posted quite a few blocks. Hopefully he'll be eligible right away.

Like Tait said, this team is going to be ridiculously deep! Rock Chalk!


cajayfan 1 year, 10 months ago

The KC Star is reporting that he is not qualified yet. The Chicago Tribune quotes his mother as saying he has online courses that have to be ok'd....? They are both very recent stories. Not sure which is right.


bennybob 1 year, 10 months ago

Did we take Wesley's schollie away for this kid?

If so, thats just dumb. Wesley earned that schollie and deserves a heck of alot more than a kid thats going to be playing somewhere else a year from now.


Ray March 1 year, 10 months ago

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Michael Sillman 1 year, 10 months ago

HEM, as far as I am concerned you are clogging up this website with purely fictional conversations that are unnecessarily insulting to past and future Jayhawks. My guess, which is as good as yours, is that Merv looked at the situation and initiated the conversation himself to get some playing time closer to home. By the way, I think we'll hear some good things in the coming years about Merv's performance at New Mexico. Your comment about recruits South of 4 stars demonstrates an ignorance of basketball history.


Jeeveshawk 1 year, 10 months ago

Finally the Milton Doyle thing is settled.


Martin Rosenblum 1 year, 10 months ago

Merv out - Milton in.

What happened to those basketball names like Scooter, Scoop, Cookie, Tiny, etc. We're starting to sound like a barbershp quartet.... Ben, Jeff, Milton, Tyler . Well, ok, there is Elijah, Jamari and Nadir. Never mind!


Jack Wilson 1 year, 10 months ago

Here's how the conversation might have gone with Lindsay (perhaps a Doyle preview): Merv: Coach, you wanted to see me? Self: Yea. Just wanted to talk about your future at KU. Merv. I like it here. Can't wait for next season. Self: Merv, you know I am honest. I want to let players know what I see as their roles on the team. Merv: Right, I get that. Self: Well, we have Releford at the 3, Andrew White coming in this next season, then Brannen Greene the next. Both are 3s that can play some 2. Merv: I know that. Self: And we'll be recruiting other guys there .. top rated guys. Merv: So what are you saying? Self: I'm saying that I don't foresee significant playing time for you in the next two seasons. Merv: But if I work hard, I can beat them out. Self: You could, but I'm talking probabilities here. I want to be fair to you. This is about you, and your future. You only have one future. Those two guys coming in are real talented, highly thought of players that can play now. Is it fair for you to be in that position, fighting in-coming players every season for playing time? Merv: So you think it's not fair to me to stay, or that you want me to go? Self: You are free to stay, and to be on the team. I like you. I don't want you to go. But I have a bigger responsibility than this team. I am responsible for each of you. And I just don't see any real playing time. You want me to be honest with you, right? And that's why you came here. To play. You deserve that. Merv: You're right, I want to play. But what has changed since I signed and you told me I could compete to play? Self: Andrew White and Brennan Greene. Those two weren't committed. You know, that's how this works. We recruit every year. We might have gotten kids that you would have stacked up better against. Look, I'd probably want you to redshirt this coming season anyway. So you'd sit out a year. Merv: And I'd sit out a year if I would transfer, is that what you're saying? Self: What I mean is that you wouldn't lose any time by transferring, vs. if you stayed. But this is your decision. What is best for you. Not KU, but you. Merv: Ok .. I'll think about. Self: Oh, and you might talk to Joe (Dooley) .. he can discuss with you more in depth the situation. He might be a bit blunt, but you need to hear from him. It's something that has to be figured out here pretty soon .. you wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to land at the right place if that's your choice. Merv: Ok, thanks. Self: Joe's in the hall.

Ok .. maybe not just like that - you get the drift. Be ready, Milton, this could be you. It was Tyrone Appleton, and Quintrell Thomas, and it was Merv Lindsay. It may be Lucas/Peters/Traylor at some point. As JB pointed out a while back .. best term ever to describe .. OAF (One And Flush). It ain't pretty, but do we want scholarships clogged up when better talent is available? Those that get flushed find a home. Usually the home they should have found in the first place.


William Blake 1 year, 10 months ago

Welcome aboard, MD!

We needed a doc on this team!



Jack Wilson 1 year, 10 months ago

konkeyDong: You know, it's actually imploding .. kind of collapsing inward in a violent fashion from the weight of the giddiness we see above from Jaydogger, Alohahawk, and cmill1221. But I have prepared for this day.

I actually have no problem with the scholarship going to Milton at this point. We had an open spot and Self has shown no hesitation in showing an unworthy player the door after one year if needed (see Lindsay). So it is really no risk .. either we have a scholarship open, or we take this guy as insurance. If the right guy is there, we won't turn him down because Doyle has a scholarship.

Irrational rationalizations are the order of the day when anyone south of 4 stars commits - many ignore reality in favor of giddiness.

Can we say this together? "Doyle is a body, he is insurance, he is Merv Lindsay, and it is a better than 50-50 chance that he will be gone after one season."

If Doyle ever has a major role here, the strong odds are we won't be happy. And the strong odds are that he won't.


Martin Rosenblum 1 year, 10 months ago

Simon Simeon? Poor kid better get a nickname!


gchawk 1 year, 10 months ago

Wow, a plethora of good news in this article. Great to officially have you as a Jayhawk, Milton, and congrats on the arrival of a future Jayhawk, Wayne! I do hope everything works out for Anrio, he will be a great addition to an awesome team. As far as the academic honor, that is very special, it just adds more icing to a stellar season.


Jayhawk1958 1 year, 10 months ago

Wonder how many of these new freshmen will transfer do to lack of playing time...


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 10 months ago

Nobody tell HEM about Doyle or his head asplode!


IrishCharlie 1 year, 10 months ago

Sure to be an honor roll student at kansas university!


commonsenseanyone 1 year, 10 months ago

Congratulations Wayne! 4 kids sounds hectic for sure, enjoy!


championhawks 1 year, 10 months ago

Does anyone know anything about the top players in the Chicago Public League? If Milton was a top 5 player this past year, I would be interested to see who the other top players were and where they landed in the recruiting world.


DDDHawk 1 year, 10 months ago

Milton- You sound like a great guy. Welcome to the Jayhawk Family!


Jay Dogger 1 year, 10 months ago

I'm trying to figure out our Point Guard situation beyond this year.

We seem to have one "true" PG that is still a question mark (Tharpe) and at least three combo PGs who may or may not work as a PG/back-up PG (Adams, Doyle and Frankamp). Also, we have (or will have) White and Greene as shooting guards/wings that may earn more PT than the guards listed above.

Anyone want to guess which of the four above guards is the best floor general?

Do we still need to recruit a PG for beyond this upcoming season?

If all these players stay past this season then we have two schollies remaining. I think we need to go after the best two Bigs we can get (Walker and Shepard, probably). But if we are still going after a PG then we either sign one Big or just end up with yet another OAF ("one and flush"). I thought Doyle was a back-up to Adams but it looks like we'll get both. We just seem really, really loaded at the Shooting Guard position when our need seems to be a stud Big that's at least 6'10" and a PG that can be a star. I really hope Lucas and at least one of these guards turn out well.

Anyone want to guess what Doyle would be ranked if he was a Junior and heading back for another year in high school? Top-5 Chicago public and Top-15 Illinois sounds like a low/mid-four-star to me, but I'm no expert.

We have a ton of seemingly good players coming in; I'm just curious which one(s) will be great. Time will tell...but I can't wait!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk welcome to KU, Milton Doyle!!!


Alohahawk 1 year, 10 months ago

Aloha and a hearty welcome to Mr. Doyle. Always nice to sign on recruits who have so proudly expressed their desire to become Jayhawks. Sounds like KU has another recruit who, like Peters, has been under-ranked because of non-exposure on the AAU circuit. If we can trust what Doyle's coach and the news media says as being true, I think KU is extremely lucky to add a recruit so late which could fill in that questionable spot (backup PG) on this coming season's roster.

Note: This news should also verify that Chi_town24 is who he says he is. (Read his posts under the article about Self liking the new NCAA rules change.)


docnchg 1 year, 10 months ago

Would someone explain to me how Connectcut is out of next years's NCAA but Kentucky brings in a NBA development team who doesn't go to class the second semester, then mostly goes to the NBA yet seems to incur no penalties related to academic progress?


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ahpersecoachingexperience 1 year, 10 months ago

Dang it! I was really wishing he'd play for us at the University of Kansas.


ukanjhox 1 year, 10 months ago

Bedore, you still use the phrase "it is believed." Where is the quote from Self, or the Clearinghouse? I'm not saying he won't be here next week, but I'm wondering where you got the evidence to write this story.


april28 1 year, 10 months ago

Congratulations and welcome to Lawrence Mr. Doyle! Foregoing the AAU circuit and focusing on academics was a wise, wise move. Look around and take it all are now part of one of the top-five college basketball programs in the country.


Cmill1221 1 year, 10 months ago

Wow. Missed an entire season from a wrist injury. That would help explain the low ranking. He also sounds a little undersized at the moment but put some weight on and this guy could be a steal. This kind of makes me think about Langford and how he originally committed to Ole Miss. You just can't tell sometimes.


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