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Kansas University quarterback Dayne Crist, left, listens to KU coach Charlie Weis during spring drills on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, at the practice fields south of Memorial Stadium.
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One of the eye-opening bits of information that came from a recent sit-down with Kansas University football coach Charlie Weis was the fact that the man keeps a mattress and blankets in his office so he can grab some quick sleep before getting back to work without having to go home for the night.
That box of bedding was not put there for show, nor does it go unused. Weis is famous for working while others are asleep and is dedicated to putting countless hours into coaching.
Part of his intense work ethic came from his blue-collar, New Jersey upbringing. Many of the people Weis grew up around had this same mentality in their jobs, and that sense of pride rubbed off on him at an early age. But one of the most recent men who inspired Weis to become such a hard worker was Bill Parcells, the legendary NFL coach whom Weis credits for shaping him into the coach he is today.
“Parcells was the ultimate button-pusher,” Weis said. “He’d find what button made everyone achieve a higher level and he’d keep on pressing that button.”
Most days, Weis had a front row seat to watch Parcells push, prod and manipulate his players into digging deeper. Every once in a while, and with some regularity, Parcells picked the buttons that belonged to his coaching staff.
Weis remembers well the first time Parcells fired his way.
“With me, it was questioning my work ethic,” Weis said. “I always worked as hard or harder than anyone, but it would be 11 o’clock at night, we’d be at Hofstra (University for training camp), I’d be the only one left in the building, everyone else is gone and he’d walk by as I’d be getting my coat on to go ahead and leave and he’d say, ‘Another early night, huh?’ And then he’d walk out, knowing that I’d take my coat off (and say), ‘OK, there’s something else I could be doing.’ He knew what button to push and he’d press it and he’d press it and he’d press it. And he did it with everyone. He was the best. Always will be.”
As the years went by, Weis not only got used to Parcells’ signature style — even evolving to be able to predict when it was coming — but also began to incorporate the art into his own coaching playbook.
The list of players whose buttons Weis has pushed is long and still growing, but one in particular holds special significance for Kansas fans.
Sometime in early 2008, when a highly-touted high school quarterback out of California named Dayne Crist made one final trip to Notre Dame, Weis did his finest work.
“The day he came in to visit,” Weis recalled, “he was about ready to commit to LSU, and I said, ‘What? Are you afraid of competing against (Notre Dame starter Jimmy) Clausen?’ Well, then he committed three days later to us. Because that wasn’t him. I pressed the right button with that one.”
If not for that move, Crist probably would have gone to LSU, and, therefore, probably would not be the starting quarterback at KU today.
That’s just one example of the dozens of strategies that Weis swiped from Parcells. But it seems to be the one he’s most proud of, and, even though he’s only been around his new team for seven months, Weis already has started pushing buttons in Lawrence.
“We’ve settled in on a lot of them,” he said. “But the thing is you’re gonna have to learn the new ones. Recruiting them and actually having them here are two different things, now. Obviously, the ones you knew already are easy. (Notre Dame transfers, Mike) Ragone and Anthony McDonald coming here, they’re easy. Because I’ll say things to them a lot colder than I will most other people. If they screw up, it’s bad. I mean really bad. As bad as you’ve ever heard it. Just think of the worst you’ve ever heard and go a lot worse than that.”
Weis says this with not so much as a hint of a smile. It’s fact. Business. His way of doing things. And, just as his mentor did with the whole button-pushing thing, Weis takes great pride in his ability to reach his players this way.
“I can safely say there isn’t a player that I can’t break down within 60 seconds,” Weis said.
On this team?
“On any team,” he said.
Comments
fearthephog512 10 months, 1 week ago
Nice story, Matt. I just hope Weis is pushing the right combination of buttons to generate some wins this year. In any case, it should be a fun season to watch. Rock Chalk!
Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
It's OK now because Gill was too soft. When Mangino was run out of town, everyone wanted a nice guy to replace this wretched Mangino who was poking players in the chest and calling them names... We got 2 years of Gill. Now that he is gone, everyone is ready for a football coach again.
Nice people rarely make good football coaches. Even when they do, I assume it is because they turn the nice switch off at work.
april28 10 months, 1 week ago
Mangino was on his way out. His methods were tired, he couldn't recruit and, if not for having one of the greatest QB's in the history of the school, he would have been fired earlier. He rode Reesing's coat tails and, when Reesing left, everybody could see that the program was on a steep decline.
Last time I saw, Weis hadn't been kicked out of a high school football game for being a jerk. Mangino should have been fired the night that happened.
IlBastardo 10 months, 1 week ago
On the contrary, it was Reesing that rode Mangino's coattails because no one else would have him, if you'll recall.
KGphoto 10 months, 1 week ago
If Reesing was riding a coattail is was Ed Warriner's, and Mangino never won 8 or more games without Reesing.
With Reesing: 25-13 Without Reesing: 25-35.
IlBastardo 10 months, 1 week ago
The fact is, it takes time to build a program up from zero as Mangino had to do at KU, and the team was on a steady climb before the arrival of Reesing. Sure, he contributed to our success, but he also had the benefit of playing after Mangino had stopped a good deal of the bleeding. Being a relatively small guy, that was the best he could've hoped for.
KGphoto 10 months ago
Did I stutter?
With Reesing: 25-13, 66% --- Without Reesing: 25-35, 41%
And That doesn't count the 7 straight losses at the end, that seemed to be a direct result of Mangino's method boiling over.
KGphoto 10 months ago
Mangino climbed to "middling" status in year two, and stayed there for the next 4 seasons. Reesing took the team over the top. And if he was such a genius in finding Reesing, why did he take so long to put him in?
number1jayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
Fail. KSU and Duke offered Todd also.
IlBastardo 10 months, 1 week ago
So the number1jayhawker is going to classify those as better offers? Fail, dislike, dude, etc.
april28 10 months, 1 week ago
If Kerry hadn't been hurt, Mangino wouldn't have even had the common sense to start Reesing. Facts hurt. Mangino was a good bowl coach....other than that a below-average record at KU.
IlBastardo 10 months, 1 week ago
How do you equal the total bowl appearances for the history of the program and equal the highest ranking in the history of the program without having an above-average record for KU football? Furthermore, how do you become the one coach ever to win all the coach of the year awards and the assistant coach of the year award as a below-average coach? Facts obviously hurt for you, as you feel compelled to bring up Mangino's conduct outside o hisf work, and pepper your posts with "would"s and "should"s.
april28 10 months, 1 week ago
What was his overall record at KU? How about his conference record? How about his conference record on the road? Yes, the facts are clear....below average in almost every meaningful category. I will give him credit for standing up to Texas, sort of.
hawk316 10 months, 1 week ago
Actually, IIBastardo, according to an article on Reesing in Kansan.com, "Kansas State was one of the first colleges to recruit him — along with Northwestern, Duke, TCU and Purdue — and it wasn’t until he was on his way to visit Manhattan when Kansas contacted him."
Still, your point has some validity. Mangino did give him a shot, but I think April makes, perhaps, an even stronger point. Reesing's magnificent play greatly contributed to Mangino's success.
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AtlJaybird 10 months, 1 week ago
I guess I missed the paragraph that says Weis makes his players Bear-Crawl across 200-degree turf if they miss a weigh-in.
http://deadspin.com/5418408/mark-mangino-mistreats-his-players-in-cruel-exotic-ways
Not "exactly" the same thing.
hawk316 10 months, 1 week ago
atljaybird, you're exactly right. If we can believe what we've read, Coach Weis can certainly be demanding with his players, but Mangino appeared to cross the line into abusive behavior.
Kleave 10 months, 1 week ago
I'll repeat what I said a few years back. I played college football, and bear crawls on hot turf are nothing out of the ordinary for football coaches. And I didn't play for Mangino or at Kansas. There's nothing cruel or exotic about it, and anyone who says it is has never played football.
ckjayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
There is a difference between trying to find out what motivates each player (one of the hallmarks of a good coach) and setting out to humiliate your players (which is what I think it became with Mangino).
pleiker 10 months, 1 week ago
If Weis loses complete control of his team and they revolt again him, he will be fired too.
KUHawkhead 10 months, 1 week ago
No. If Sheahon Zenger decides he is bigger than the school and program and finds reasons to get rid of Weis via a witchhunt publicity campaign that tailspins the program to seven straight losses....Weis will be fired.
Fortunately, Zenger is a Jayhawk through and through and understands the history of our fine institution and respects it too much to make it about him and not the program.
RCJHKU!
KGphoto 10 months ago
Are you really blaming a witch hunt for 7 straight losses? That goes against logic. The players play the game. If they liked Mangino, wouldn't they have played harder to make sure he WASN'T fired?
Please explain how negative coach publicity would make them want to quit.
741hawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Please note: Mangino did not lose control (and the team was playing well) UNTIL Lew held a totally inappropriate players-only meeting (that means without the coach), thus undercutting and destroying the authority of his own coach. It was unavoidably downhill from there.
KFoz 10 months, 1 week ago
Maybe it has been so long that I can't remember; what was Mangino's record at KU and, more specifically, his Big 12 record?
AtlJaybird 10 months, 1 week ago
Overall, his record was 50-48. In the Big-12, his record was 23-41. Here is the breakdown by year:
Kirk 10 months ago
Word.
jhox 10 months, 1 week ago
I find it amazing how polarizing the Mangino issue is with the Jayhawk faithful. I'm very thankful to him for giving me a trip to the Orange Bowl, and for the most part I believe he did a very good job here. I'm by and large a Mangino fan.
That being said, let's be honest, those players' complaints would not have gotten him fired if the wheels hadn't fallen off the program his last season. That 1 conference win is what did him in, not the complaints of a few players. The player treatment issue was just a conventient excuse to get rid of a guy who had quit recruiting. I don't know if he was confident a higher profile program was going to offer him a job or what, but he and his staff quit finding those undervalued players like Reesing, Talib and Meyer.
Also, can you imagine how crippled he would have been as a recruiter had he stayed, after the player treatment concerns became public? What kid would want to play for someone with that reputation? What parent would want their kid to play for someone who makes someone bear crawl on hot turf until their hands are blistered?
We can blame Lew for picking the wrong guy to replace him, but to this day I believe Lew had no choice pulling the trigger to get rid of Mangino. It simply had to be done. While I felt a bit sorry for Mangino, and part of me believes he deserved better, this is a performance based business. One and seven in the conference didn't cut it, and his chances of being a good recruiter were crippled by the player mistreatment publicity. It is as simple as that. Fans seem to be in one corner or the other on the topic of Mangino, and it wasn't as black and white as most people seem to think.
NebraskaJayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
I'm not pointing fingers, but it would have made a huge difference had the media supported him instead of the players.
tical523 10 months, 1 week ago
Exactly, dead on.
Jayhawks1997 10 months, 1 week ago
I'm just glad Arist Wright isn't on this team to complain.
BoulderHawk 10 months, 1 week ago
OMG. I hope he isn't mean to them. ;)
Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Lets just make sure we run Weis out of town AFTER he wins 3 bowls in 4 seasons. :)
Bangkok_Jayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
I am THRILLED that we have Crist... That being said, I wonder if he wishes he could redo that LSU decision. He probably would have started in a National Championship game.
Jhaux 10 months, 1 week ago
He has one more chance :)
squawkhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
‘What? Are you afraid of competing against (Notre Dame starter Jimmy) Clausen?’
Turns out he was afraid. Lucky break for KU though. We'll see what he is really made of this year.
jhox 10 months, 1 week ago
I think his move to Kansas wasn't made out of fear of competing for the ND starting spot. It has more to do with the fact that he wasn't being given a chance to compete for the starting spot at ND. That decision had been made last season.
JHWKDW 10 months, 1 week ago
Hope Weis can get the job done and make KU respectable once again.Good luck coach Weis.
Rock Chalk!
Pitthawk34 10 months, 1 week ago
It will take more than one year. 5 wins his year and I'll be more than happy. Look out TCU something tells me the magic may be in the air. The stadium should be rockin. My tickets arealready bought.
nuleafjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
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jhawkrulz 10 months, 1 week ago
Too much time clicking on those snorgtee ads?
BoulderHawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Where can I get one?
AtlJaybird 10 months, 1 week ago
When the head coach is so dedicated that he occasionally sleeps in his office it sets the tone for the entire team. You see it in the players attitudes this summer. I don't remember a time when there was this much focus and energy and excitement about an upcoming football season at KU, and it all starts with Weis.
Brock 10 months, 1 week ago
The last time Weis took off some time to see a movie the film was Lawrence of Arabia.
clevelandjayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
"..... Because I’ll say things to them a lot colder than I will most other people. If they screw up, it’s bad. I mean really bad. As bad as you’ve ever heard it. Just think of the worst you’ve ever heard and go a lot worse than that.”
Out of context, but can Weis rip pinkle a new one for his dumb comments yesterday?
Missery- we always knew you were classy, thanks for having your head coach prove it at your big sec media day, you’re in the right conference
rockchalk_dpu 10 months, 1 week ago
You forgot about TJ Moe putting his foot in his mouth saying that the SEC was "average" once you got past 2 teams. Good luck winning 6 games this year.
clevelandjayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
actually I agree with that, maybe they have 3-4 "good teams", but you look at misserys schedule last year or KU's this year and what missery has this year and I think it got easier. The big 12 has 6 top 25 teams this preseason. I want missery to lose as much as the next KU fan, but I think their schedule actually got easier. Also I think if oklahoma state had played in the championship game they would have beaten either bama or lsu...these are just my opinions, too lazy to research haha
jhox 10 months, 1 week ago
I agree, cleveland...from top to bottom the Big 12 was the better conference last year than the SEC (or should I say from top to second to the bottom?). I don't know that OSU would have beaten LSU (had they played) but I do believe it it would have been a heck of a match up that could have gone either way. The talking heads on ESPN have the world believing the sun rises and sets on the SEC, and most recent years that's probably been a valid view, but last year it wasn't.
qringer 10 months, 1 week ago
It's scary what it takes to be successful. It seams that living a balanced life that has time for family, work, sleep, etc. is out if you want to achieve success. I don't think I could do it, or for that matter would want to.
nuleafjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
I definitely wouldn't do it for the money that I make right now.
For Charlies salary.......I think my family would gladly sacrifice some quality time with me.
In fact - for that kind of money, they would encourage it !!!
HouTexHawk 10 months, 1 week ago
We are just a few weeks from seeing if the new culture will translate to improved performance on the field. The bar is set pretty low. I'm setting an over under at 4.5. I'll take the under with the deciding game being at NIU. If KU can win that game, I think they could pull out five wins which would be successful. If they win 3-4 games and are competitive in the other games, they will have been sucessful in my book.
thjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
This maybe a bit off subject but what the heck.....Everyone is sick and saddened by the whole Penn State situation. There is talk that if PSU gets the death penalty that current players would be able to leave and immediately be elgiable to play at another school. Question....do you think coach is keeping a close eye on this situation and do you think it would be possible to atract some of these transfering athletes?.....Just a thought.
DocBean 10 months, 1 week ago
every coach in the country is watching and waiting for the Penn State penalty. If they get a death penalty, chances are it won't take effect until next year. Schedules are set this year, and games are coming up, it's going to be too hard for students to transfer and play this year, and too hard for the PSU opponents to find other games to fill out their schedules.
NebraskaJayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
What Doc says is true, but that is a great post, thjhawk. And you can bet that he is already looking to next year's possible transfers if this does happen. As much as I like Weis and the way he conducts himself, this year is huge as far as recruiting goes. Kansas needs a 5-6 win season to get the media (sports center) behind Weis. If that happens, watch out.
squawkhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
LOL, 5-6 is winning all the patsy games and 2 league games.
NebraskaJayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
To win six games they're going to have to beat a couple of pretty good teams.
rockchalk_dpu 10 months, 1 week ago
I would like to think that KU fans would take their lumps and accept that the man they put so much faith in had misled them, but I also don't think that is likely to happen with a Bill Self-type coach. I also think that the rest of the staff and university are much stronger than PSU was in that Zenger doesn't seem to take crap regardless who it comes from, and GBL has already overseen running off a fairly successful football coach for much much less (though still serious issues) which gives me faith that the powers that be would never let such a cover-up take place, or let someone be in the position that they could do something similar or similarly egregious.
Hopefully we never have to find out though.
Fototherapist 10 months, 1 week ago
After Gill was fired I said I want the biggest, fattest, meanest head football coach we could find. Heck, I would have been fine with getting Mangino back. So far, I think Weis has exceeded my expectations.
clevelandjayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
who is Foto? and why are you a rapist?
nuleafjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
will you please send me money for a new keyboard? it doesn't work well with coffee all over it.
KGphoto 10 months, 1 week ago
Never too early for Sean Connery, Jeopardy humor.
nuleafjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
lol - i wanted to link to some of those clips, but most of them would be taken down anyway. But they were very, very funny! Thanks for the reminder.
Chris1955 10 months, 1 week ago
Literal lol.
hillsborojayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
If he is such a motivational genius, why didn't things work out at Notre Dame?
peter56321 10 months, 1 week ago
Weiss has said he believes that his big mistake at Notre Dame was that he didn't pay enough attention to making sure there was good chemistry among his coaching staff. He implied there was some dysfunction among and between the various coaches and not everybody was on the same page. The results played out on the field. He added that he believes he's fixed that problem at Kansas.
KUHawkhead 10 months, 1 week ago
No ONE has won at ND since Lou Holtz. They demand 4.0 students that run 4.3 40's. There aren't enough of those kids to make up a team, and they all aren't going to go to one university where it's cold half the season.
Unrealistic expectations are why he failed at ND.
RCJHKU!
pessimisticjayhawkfan 10 months, 1 week ago
I would argue that he didnt fail at ND. 2 BCS bowl apperances. Had a bad 3i win season but then followed it by getting back to winning 7 and 8 games. Think the admin. Just didnt like him. I do agree ND will never get back to where they were for the exact reasons you mentioned.
mdlund0 10 months, 1 week ago
Since I was at Notre Dame for the duration of Charlie's tenure, I'd be happy to answer that. The man can definitely recruit. He can definitely motivate. And he can certainly develop unique schemes and game plans - in that, he is an undeniable genius. The one thing he can't do is develop players (and I'm not sure that that problem has been resolved). In the NFL he was/is successful because the players are professional, already developed players. In college, to be a successful head coach in the long term, you must possess the ability to turn high school players into professional players. It's a huge transition for the kids, and few people can do it while doing everything else too (Think Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and Pete Carrol). If you look at Notre Dame football, Charlie's predicessor, Tyrone Willingham, had that ability while lacking the ability to come up with schemes and game plans. Charlie's enormous success in his first years at Notre Dame came because Willingham previous work filled in the gaps in Weis' talent. As Willingham's recruits faded away, Weis was left with a large amount of undeveloped talent (often to 10 recruiting classes) that couldn't properly execute at critical times. Eventually, the mediocrity that resulted reached critical mass (Notre Dame will not tolerate 6-6 seasons, losses to Navy, and back-to-back-to-back-to-back losses against USC for long).
NebraskaJayhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
I hope you are wrong about him not being able to develop talent. I guess time will tell.
FightnMangino64 10 months ago
Dont worry Head Coaches arent the ones that develop the talent the position coaches are
Kirk 10 months ago
My sense is that Weis has learned to delegate the things that he's not best at doing himself. Time will tell. The first year is likely to be bumpy, though I think KU is going to pull a few upsets. Year two could be bumpy, too.
Success will come from sticking it out and making adjustments in the areas we need to, and building on what works. So far, I think Weis has done a helluva job.
KGphoto 10 months, 1 week ago
Where have you been? Notre Dame hasn't won a title in 24 years. The one year that really mucked up Weis' record was the year after he lost eleven (11) players in the draft, including the record breaking Brady Quinn. Weis' inherited Notre Dame on a 7 game bowl skid. He made two BCS bowls and broke the skid a year later.
When Weis took over at ND, Lou Holtz was the only coach since 1980 to finish with over a .583 win %. Brian Kelly is now at .61%
You must be thinking of the Knute Rockne, Frank Leahy or Ara Parseghian Irish, because they just aren't that good anymore.
ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
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clevelandjayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
you must have a lot of time on your hands to make multiple accounts....what a dumb comment and dumb to hit the like button to your own comment twice. now i dislike clemson
ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
Sure. That would take quite a bit of time, wouldn't it?
AtlJaybird 10 months, 1 week ago
Your sick!
ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
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mdlund0 10 months, 1 week ago
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ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
Bury me in Southern ground.
ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
If you come up with any more good post-scripts in the days to come, be sure to add them too.
ClemsonDandy 10 months, 1 week ago
And I'm called the troll. This board is a pasture for the depraved and poorly-raised.
bville_hawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Well, depraved, yeah. But how do you figure poorly-raised???
milehighhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Hyphenating a word ending in -ly? Amateur hour at Clemson.
KGphoto 10 months ago
Somebody bury ClemsonDandy in southern ground, stat!
oldalum 10 months, 1 week ago
A removed comment is like an unopened Christmas present. I always wish I knew what was in it.
raprichard 10 months, 1 week ago
Why didn't you open your Christmas presents?
But I second your thought.
jayhawkintx1973 10 months, 1 week ago
It sounds like Weis might be a better coach than he was at ND. He had some time to push some buttons at Arrowhead with those offensive players that out performed their own skill level. If this converts to the field on game day at Kansas, I think it's going to be an exciting season to say the least.
number1jayhawker 10 months, 1 week ago
Uh, no thanks.
raprichard 10 months, 1 week ago
Or we could go with this one if you like the black helmets. It might pose a problem matching the uniforms, though.
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nuleafjhawk 10 months, 1 week ago
Let's talk to whoever designed Baylor's uniforms last year. It seemed to work for them. I'm sure it had nothing to do with RG3.
april28 10 months, 1 week ago
Black uni's with royal and red would be completely awesome.
raprichard 10 months, 1 week ago
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april28 10 months, 1 week ago
Best helmet ever. I've said it before. I'll buy beers for everyone if they come out in these this year.
jhawkrulz 10 months, 1 week ago
Put the "mean jayhawk" (1941) on there and I like it.
KGphoto 10 months ago
I like the mean hawk too. It would be AWESOME with that helmet!
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JHAWKSWAG 10 months, 1 week ago
I liked those unis we rocked in the border war a few years back against misery
jhawkrulz 10 months, 1 week ago
I always thought T. Wilingham was too defensive minded. He was successful, but never could score points. I thought C. Weis (at ND) was too offensive minded, and the two early years mixed the Ty and Charlie and had successful BCS bowl appearances. As time drifted on the coaching problems escalated, not because HCCW couldn't develop talent, he just wasn't focused on the defense. They scored a lot of points, they just didn't stop anyone. With that in mind, the most critical thing that I thought that needed to occur for the success of KU football (not sure if that is an oxymoron currently), was the selection of a Defensive coordinator. I think we have something solid there, and that is what will make us successful in the long run.
I always thought that when they brought in Charlie Weis at ND if he Ty Wilingham as his DC the team would have been unstoppable.
mdlund0 10 months, 1 week ago
With a top 10 recruiting class nearly every year he recruited for Notre Dame, how many of Charlie's recruits eventually went in the first round of the NFL draft? How many were even drafted at all? I'll agree with you that he was too offensive minded, but even his offenses suffered after a while. Why? A structure will not stand long on a poor foundation, and without player development, you have no foundation.
jhawkrulz 10 months, 1 week ago
Agree: 2004 was the last year TW coached, and then CW took over. It was surprising when I looked at it from your thought how much Defensive players were taken.
Year # of Picks (round of picks) how many offensive and how many defensive players. 2004-5 picks (2-2-4-6-6) 1-O, 4-D 2005-2 (3-5) 1-O, 1-D 2006-3 (2-3-6) 3-O 2007-7 (1-2-3-5-6-7-7) 3-O 4-D 2008-4 (2-2-3-6) 2-O 2-D 2009-1 (4) 1-D 2010-4 (2-2-6-6) 4-O 2011-1 (2) 1-O 2012-4 (1-1-5-5) 1-O 3-D
ND had 31 picks during that timeframe, in reference OU -50 Ohio State - 57 Texas-42 Florida-40 Michigan-33 KU-9 KSU-13
mhart123 10 months, 1 week ago
Mdlund0: "... A structure will not stand long on a poor foundation, and without player development, you have no foundation". Gee thanks... That's so intuitive and deeply enlightening. Why not break out alternate analogies: player development is the oar that propels the boat... The pedals that power the bike... One of the legs to a stool without which... The stool falls over. So what?!?
machinegun 10 months, 1 week ago
When our team goes 0-9 in conference, somebody needs to light a fire! That somebody is Coach Charlie Weis!
ralster 10 months, 1 week ago
Appreciate the insight from lund, but in other articles in the past 2-3 months on this site, Weis has said on many, many occasions that he is starting from the "very beginning" with the players, the football mindset, the workout regimen. I think just to develop players, he has gone out and brought in NFL-caliber, or respected college coaches. Holsopple. Campo (known as a fundamentals-defense type of coach), Grunhard (a bit new as a coach, but with his NFL credibility, if he can simply make guys do as he did, we will have one of the most pivotal skill positions, the o-line, beyond what we have seen for years). Grunhard was on one of the very best o-lines in the NFL during the Trent Green era. I also think the trick to Weis+Campo+Grunhard+Bowen+Holsopple recruiting well is to sell their "coaching" and the implied 'get you to the next level'. So, in answer to lund's opinion about Weis not developing players--> I say Weis is starting at ground zero at ku to do just that (&everything) better than he did at NDame.
DocPossum 10 months, 1 week ago
Weis and his coaching staff have experience in with what works and what does not work. OJT doesn't work at ND (see Brennan, Devore, Faust, Davie, etc). You must have head coaching experience to have a chance at success there. Weis' time at ND has resulted in his evolution into a head coach. His successes at ND have been noted above. Recruiting, offensive scheme, motivating, player loyalty, honesty, interest in academic success of athletes, doing things the right way, etc. The lack of success also has been well documented; distractions early on as he stayed with Pats during a Superbowl Run, which resulted in hiring good assistants, based on advice, that did not / could not work together (three DCs in Weis tenure). Also Willingham did not recruit enough OLs, so along with Superbowl distraction the OL cupboard was bare beyond those who started for TW. With the D unable to stop critical drives and the young OL on the field too long, ND lost a number of games in the fourth Q, especially during Weis' last two years at ND.
Charlie has learned his head coaching lessons the hard way (as have other members of his staff). His time spent away from ND was not spent idly. He didn't have to work, as ND is still probably paying him. But he was driven to continue to develop, learn, and evolve. He like the rest of his coaching staff, including the strength coach, have a burning desire for excellence. Excellence in all aspects of the program. You can see this in every thing he and his staff does as he rebuilds the KU football program. His hiring the right strength coach will help in the fourth quarter, his hiring a coaching staff that has experience in working together and/or having the same work ethic and values fixes the poor mix he had at ND, the reputation of your coaches will help open doors in high Schools across the country, and his stressing of academics and doing things the right way will resonate with many mommas across the country. KU has much to offer. It has to be packaged correctly to impact recruiting, Weis, Iannello, etal get it. The KU program will not be for everyone, as unfortunately many teens and families are seeking bright lights rather than excellence. Wins will come once everything gets fixed. Your current condition did not happen overnight so the wins will not likely happen overnight. But I can assure you that no head coach in the country will outwork Charlie in his pursuit of excellence for the KU program. The wins will follow.
jaykan7 10 months ago
I apologize to everyone on this board but I am going to be a little less optimistic about Weis. Anyone who thinks his previous college coaching record and where he has been is anything to be impressed with...I am just not on board yet. Led ND to their worst season in school history. Florida sucked last year. I have friends and family who are K-State fans and they feel the same way about their basketball coach as I do about Weis. He was the clean hire with no baggage. ND was on a 7 game skid when Weis took over. KU on a 10 game skid, I think this program is a long way (serveral years) from being something I can be proud of.
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