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Originally published January 15, 2012 at 02:15p.m., updated January 16, 2012 at 12:16a.m.

3 more junior college football prospects commit to Kansas

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With less than three weeks remaining before national signing day, Kansas University football coach Charlie Weis and his new coaching staff continue to make up for lost time by landing commitments in a hurry.

And their moves seem to be in direct contrast to the way Weis’ predecessor, Turner Gill, went about building his program.

Saturday night, the Jayhawks learned that junior-college All-American running back Taylor Cox and junior-college wide receiver Josh Ford had orally pledged their services to KU.

Sunday, junior-college tight end Charles Brooks decided to join them. All three were former three-star prospects, according to Rivals.com.

Gill did not bring in his first juco player until his second year in town.

In landing the three junior-college players, Weis adds both experience and talent to a KU offense that figures to look a lot different in 2012 than it did in 2011.

“At Kansas, there just aren’t enough BCS football players in the state to survive,” said Jon Kirby of JayhawkSlant.com, who has covered KU recruiting for 13 seasons. “So you have to be creative how you build your roster, and I’ve always felt that junior-college kids can be a big part of that. From what I have seen so far, the quality of the junior-college players that they’re bringing in is a great sign for KU football because these are guys that I think can make contributions right away.”

Cox, 5-foot-11, 200 pounds, of College of the Siskiyous in Weed, Calif., ran for 1,507 yards and 14 touchdowns in 10 games this season. Originally from Mill Creek, Wash., Cox owns the school record for rushing yards in a game (326), rushing yards in a career (2,744) and touchdowns in a career (31). He also knows incoming transfer Jake Heaps, a quarterback from Washington, and told JayhawkSlant.com he chose KU because of what Weis is building.

“I just know I want to be a part of it,” Cox said. “I think good things are going to happen. The coaches were all very welcoming but that they had that look they are ready to get to work. I know coach Weis wants good football players, but he also is looking for players with high character. I’m excited and honored to be a part of it.”

Ford, 6-4, 195, finished the 2011 season at Arizona Western with 845 yards and 10 touchdowns on 58 receptions. Long and tall, with 4.4-second, 40-yard dash speed, Ford, who originally hails from Washington, D.C., said he could flourish at his new school.

“I know in an offense run by coach Weis, I will get the ball thrown to me a lot,” Ford told JayhawkSlant.com. “It is the type of offense that can showcase wide receivers. Coach Weis is known for developing quarterbacks, and that is the receiver’s best friend.”

Brooks, 6-5, 245, comes to Kansas from Scottsdale Community College in Arizona as one of the top five junior-college tight ends available. He chose KU over offers from Florida International, Middle Tennessee State, Mississippi, New Mexico and Savannah State.

The addition of Brooks, Cox and Ford brings KU’s commitment list in the Class of 2012 to a dozen, about half of the yearly maximum (25) the program is allowed to sign. It remains to be seen just how many more prospects Weis will bring to town.

“I don’t want to undersign,” Weis said the day he was introduced. “I don’t want to go out there and sign 15 guys if I can sign 25 guys. I also don’t want to take people just for numbers. You want to take guys that fit what you need.”

Miller Tweets he’s gone

Darrian Miller, KU’s second-leading rusher during the 2011 season, announced on Twitter over the weekend that he is no longer a member of the KU football program.

Questions about Miller’s future at Kansas popped up shortly after Weis was hired in early December, and rumors ran wild throughout the past month about Miller’s status. The addition of Cox to an already-crowded backfield seems to indicate that the Jayhawks are prepared to move on without Miller, a freshman from Blue Springs, Mo., who missed the final game of the 2011 season because of suspension.

There has been no official word from KU officials on the status of Miller or any other current players.

Lineman to visit

Carlos Lozano, a 6-8, 360-pound offensive lineman from East Los Angeles College, is expected to take his official visit to KU early this week and may be in town today.

Lozano, who hails from Monterey Park, Calif., has scholarship offers from KU, Utah, Washington, Kansas State, UCLA and Utah State and is drawing interest from more than a dozen others.

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Phoggin_Loud 2 years, 3 months ago

OK. Here's a crazy question:

What are the chances Dave Campo could land a former player's son, who happens to be the top DE on the board??

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mario-Edwards-106231;_ylt=AoNDUbnlMSRwapqHtOL_vdLEsJB4

He's currently committed to FSU, but come Coach Campo!!! Convince Mario Edwards, Jr. that he needs to play for YOU!!!

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Goose_88 2 years, 3 months ago

It appears theres a cleaning house at memorial stadium: Miller, berglund, terry and webb out. any others?

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JayHok 2 years, 3 months ago

Nice find Mangino_Maniac. New strength staff at Kansas is truly rockin. I completely agree with the article, this is the most overlooked amazing part of what Weis has done so far at Kansas. Probably bigger than Crist, Heaps, McCay or Campo. But then again that's probably a good bit of the reason they signed, besides Weis, was the newly found Kansas strength plan. The strength team is everything and that's where athletes spend 99% of their time in a year, in terms of connectivity with coaches. As great as Mossariti is at Ohio State, and this is who ours learned from, Ohio State's strength facilities aren't quite as top of the line as Kansas---thanks to Mangino, Perkins and the donors. As Mossariti said himself, he's never been around anyone as energized as Weis' strength coach.

That's why, there is no way Ohio State could be # 1 on this list, but in my mind #2 and #3 are pretty much tied. Here's the latest national I.M.H.O. rankings on collegiate football strength staffs/facilities, probably the most important aspect of college football besides solid coaches and excellent recruiters----

1 - Kansas football

2 - Alabama football

3 - Ohio State football

4 - Florida football

5 - USC football

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JayHok 2 years, 3 months ago

I had no idea Mizzou said no to the Big 10. That makes our conference nervousness the last couple years all the more interesting considering Mizzou was first to put out the press regarding hoping to get a Big 10 invite. According to this Mizzou insider, the Big 10 offered Mizzou?

Also Brock Berglund's twitter account looks like it has a bunch of Jayhawks but not nearly the 600 or so fans that packed Dieter's twitter. I think Berglund just finished his case and it could finally be over. Probably a good time to show him some love. He's certainly a good quarterback. Can throw extremely well and tall with great extension like Crist. Would be nice to have a solid backup or two next year.

RCJ

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jayhawkfanatic11 2 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know what time the press conference is today? I read in another article that Charlie Weis was holding a press conference on the 16th of this month.

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BPSkelly 2 years, 3 months ago

I dont think we should get to high or low about whatever guys we bring recruit-wise. We will, but we shouldnt. Just remember where were coming from. The next couple of classes we can complain about if its not fitting the bill.

More importantly the trend lines are up as opposed to down. What a difference a few months makes.

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missouricat 2 years, 3 months ago

Just want to set the record straight, that we are moving to the SEC conference is a better fit in educational and athletics level. The advantages are more then I can go into at this time. SEC as you all know is the best football conference in the nation as LSU and Alabama has demonstrated over the past few years. So what's not to like about that? We had interest from the big 10 but, in long discussions and meetings we decided it was not in our best interest if you want to know the truth. SEC contacted us with their interest and the university committee selected the SEC because of their superiourity in football and basketball, you probably have heard of Kentucky basketball, the nations longest winning record followed by North Carolina. Duke looks to soon be closing in on third place. Missouri has asked KU about extenting the Border-War, but it seems that there isn't any interest from KU as your Bill Self has expressed. There seems to be a problem with him. I can see that some of your young bloggers have a lot of hate in them and feel sorry for them, this will definitely cause them to have a very troubled life. Take life as it comes friends.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 3 months ago

A couple of quick notes from the football team. As expected both Darrian Miller and Jordan Webb were absent from the initial team meeting. No big surprise there. The other two names that weren't necessarily expected, Adonis Saunders and Brock Berglund.

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Krohnutz 2 years, 3 months ago

Here is what I would like to see:

  1. The Big 12 actually going back to twelve full members by adding Louisville and Notre Dame.

  2. We split into a north division of KU, KSU, WVU, ND, Louisville, and Iowa State.

  3. It frees up one extra out of conference game to pick up another win.

  4. We make bowl games every year, averaging about 8+ wins a season.

  5. Head Coach Chubs Weiss gets to stick it to Notre Dame annually.

A man has to have his dreams.

Off topic, I just let out a coffee fart that rivals nerve gas. All I could think of when it happened was, "Oh man, that wreaks like Tyshawn." Ahh man, Super T. if you read this, it was a good joke, have a laugh, good luck with Perry Smellis the Turd tonight.

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Krohnutz 2 years, 3 months ago

I'm STOKED baby! Just changed my shorts again.

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vd 2 years, 3 months ago

4 years from now this program will be loaded. This is how Ron Prince built his program.

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blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

And by the way, yours is the only post I've read that mentions an undefeated season.

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DallasJayhawk1 2 years, 3 months ago

We are Top 10 in b-ball right now, might be Top 35 in football once football season gets going and we are #1 in the country in Debate. We have some of the best athletes now in those sports---yes, Debaters are athletes . . .

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Ben Kliewer 2 years, 3 months ago

Oh, and by the way, no Missouri, we won't schedule a game against you. In football, yeah, we'd lose, so why would we sacrifice a non-conference win just to play against a team who deserted the conference? In basketball, we'd slaughter you as usual, but we have bigger fish to fry, and you're the ones who walked out on the rivalry, so why would we try to make up for you mistake?

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Ben Kliewer 2 years, 3 months ago

Can anybody read? I dare you to find one point where I actually criticized Weis, the football program, the fact that we're getting three star recruits or the recruits themselves.

The short answer is, I didn't.

Yet many of you seem to assume I did.

I was criticizing the posters on this board who somehow have unrealistic expectations for next season. I'm glad we have these guys coming in and I think Weis will coach them well. But if you're hoping for an undefeated season next year, I'm trying to keep you guys all grounded so you're not jumping off buildings next season when we're not in the National Championship.

But apparently we read three words and then decide to dissolve into name calling and explanations about why I'm wrong about things I never said.

I'll say it again, read before you post.

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Matthew Pritchard 2 years, 3 months ago

What is funny about Barneys and Tiggers is that they both need to ask themselves 2 questions:

  1. Has either one ever one a BCS game in football, and a national championship in basketball in the same year?
  2. Has either school ever won a national championship in anything other than debate, cow judging, or bass fishing?

The answer is NO to 1 & 2, so good luck in the SEC accomplishing nothing MU, and to all the Barneys the time will come again soon when we will break out the broom sweep the regular season with you again in both football and basketball. Bville, that was awesome, the only problem is that Tigger fans can still not spell the word carp.

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Hammertoe 2 years, 3 months ago

KU fans talk a lot of talk for a team that won one Big 12 game in the last 2 years and was ranked last in all of D1 football. Weis may be the only D1 coach that doesn't live in the town he coaches in.
Mizzou fans would love to schedule a game with KU as it would be another Win. Weis and Mangino are sharing potatoe casserole recipes as we speak....

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Matthew Pritchard 2 years, 3 months ago

Why in the world would we want to let you idiots back into the KC market for a Border showdown. You chose to go be a less than mediocre team in the SEC. I cannot wait to watch Bama beat you like a drum in your own house next year. Have fun with that Georgia game out of the gate. The next time we play the tiggers will be in a bowl game win we kick their A**! You know there is a Misery fan on the board when they can't even spell understand right. Learn how to spell first missouricat and then have fun being taking behind the shed every weekend in the SEC, while your coach is watching the game from home after another DUI. I t will also be fun to watch us out recruit MU because any player out of Texas would rather play for a coach with 3 superbowl rings than a coach who has not even won a BCS bowl.

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Kansashawk 2 years, 3 months ago

I could see the rivalry come back in a few years. Shame we, collectively KU and MU, will lose the oldest rivalry headline. But so goes it with big $$$

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missouricat 2 years, 3 months ago

It appears that with the hire of Weis that KU is interested in having a good football team. It didn't seem like KU was, with the hire of Gill and a lot of people and media could/t understant that hire. Many people and media thought that KU went off the deep end because Gill wasn't a head coach. He really wasn't that good of a coach in Nebraska. It would be great to keep the border-war going but, guess KU is not interested.

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blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

Sorry for the long post....

For Kleave and others who don't seem to know much about college football, the reason that there is excitement with these and other signings is that, more often than not, the first recruiting class for a new coach is a thrown-together mess. He is working a short clock, has limited contact time, is way, way behind all of his competitors, he must also hire a new staff - and make sure he gets it right - and he is taking over a failed program - or else he wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

In addition, he must anticipate losses of his own players and recruit to those positions.

Given this multitude of challenges, Weis has brought in both quarterback of the present and the quarterback of the future, a potential all-conference wide receiver and a good number of 3-star athletes.

By the numbers, only about 1/3 of recruits ever truly impact a program on the field. The other 2/3 provide depth, practice bodies and competition.

JUCO players, as a rule, aren't heavily recruited by successful programs. There are always exceptions, of course, but it's going to tough to beat out "big name programs" for players if those programs aren't actually recruiting them.

This first year will be a combination of some targeted prospects (Crist, Heaps, etc.) and a whole bunch of "he looks pretty good, let's get him in here and see how he competes".

The reason I'm excited is that the guys coming in, so far, are mostly 3-stars or better and are helping to build momentum for the signing of other solid players.

I, for one, absolutely can't wait for the first kick-off!

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Ralster Jayhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

Okay, Kleave has it wrong above--missing the bigger picture: 1) Every program has juco+3star guys, the question is coaching & production. Everybody raves about Bill Snyder and his team of 3star+juco guys and their win-total, but we cant "get ours" now, huh? 2) If a big, 195# receiver runs a 4.4, and the operative phrase: "got an offer by Weis", then coach must see some potential there. Cant coach speed, right? And the kid seems motivated as heck.
3) Sorry about the frustration regarding Gill being under the gun, and you can argue that Lew put undue pressure on him with the lofty expectations that come with that "is-he-worth-it?" salary-->but performance facts are just that: a)not a brilliant X's/O's coach. If he was, why did he go 20-30 in a loser conference? And playcalling at KU was atrocious. Gill's record proved this to those with eyes open. b)Gill not a brilliant recruiter. KU's first 5star recruits are under Weis. Gill brought some RBs and some OLine guys, at least he leaves something for competent coaches to work with.
c) Turner Gill=soft! He was hired partly because of the "rebound" from tough-azz Phatman, but "kind and gentle" (turntheothercheek?) doesnt translate well into "let's go hit em in the mouth", does it? I will borrow a line from Self: "step on their throat when you've got em down"..."finish em off". You get the point? d) Now Gill going to "build a football program 'through Christ' " at Liberty...gee, I wonder how well that is going to work. e) Gill's staff. Most of whom were not fit to be retained. I pitied the gosh-I-never-done-this-before D-coordinator we had this year, but we had to watch a BCS school (our BCS school) be 324th (dead last) in defense as someone "learns the ropes"/reinvents the wheel...Painful.
f)Gill's players admitted openly he was soft on them, and didnt prepare them or push them hard in practice. That is the final damnation when your own players realized they were getting shorted, and not put in a position/fighting chance to win. The close losses or 4th qtr meltdowns often stemmed from poor play-calling also.
4) Its not necessarily about an instant championship, as it is going to a "bowl game" almost every season and having a winning record.

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bjejayhawk69 2 years, 3 months ago

First I think the majority of Turner Gill bashing wasn't as much recruiting as it was lack of preparation, game management, team motivation and poor player conditioning. He recruited OK - RB heavy but weak in many areas. I still believe if you switched our roster with KSU and has them coached by Grandpa and conditioned by Chris Dawson the result would not be much different. TG close to clueless on coach at the Big 12 level.

As far a Juco recruits go. Take them when you need them for fill in positions. The RB recruit is nice but not necessarily needed unless we are going to move a current RB to some other position.

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Ripp 2 years, 3 months ago

Awesome, now lets work on the defense.

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 3 months ago

I want to point out that TG wasn't as good of a recruiter as most people think he is: 1) I use to think TG was good because he kept all of the recruits that Mangino had set up before he left; however, after now seeing coaches come in, they actually realize they run different offenses schemes and therefore should be ready to recruit to their style of offense. Remember when TG was hired there was no turnover and he kept all of the same players. TG and MM ran different schemes, but TG thought the same players would be sufficient. 2) Year 2, I will give credit that TG had like 30 scholarships available and went after some top guys. He actually landed 2-3 four-star recruits. However, after analyzing what he recruited versus his offense scheme you got to wonder. For instance, he ran a power running game..did great at RB...but receivers nothing, QBS went and got a dual-threat QB, not one that fits his offense. Defense, I'm still wondering what he was recruiting. Many say that his recruiting was ranked high because of the number of scholarships he was able to give out. Most schools have about 22-26 to give out and he had more than 30. 3) Year 3, he had about 12 scholarships available and was only able to fulfill 6 of them (2 decommitted during the recruiting process). Although some were athletes, there was only one true recruit that was on defense. He needed to figure out what was missing and address the concerns.

If anything, recruiting was starting to be the concern that I think assured that TG needed to go.

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Matthew Pritchard 2 years, 3 months ago

I could not agree more Manginorevenge! Most big time BCS schools pass on Juco players because the are already 2 to 3 deep at each position so they can just sign the next stud in line out of high school. Weis is taking the "win now" approach which is exactly what we need. If any of you are not sure about these kids watch the rivals highlight videos on all three and your jaws will drop. Ford looks like he could step in and play at USC, and Cox is perfect for a pro style offense because he is good around the corners and can catch the ball out of the backfield and in mid range passing routes. Sims, Bourbon and Pierson will be pushed which is what this team needs. Mangino built our first bowl team in forever off Juco players, Theo Baines and Bill Whitamore.

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KU_Alumn_2000 2 years, 3 months ago

Still need some 4 star DT and DE recruits. Lets stack the D-line this year for once.

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Andy Tweedy 2 years, 3 months ago

JUCO guys are really hit and miss. I can't for the life of me think of the name of the last JUCO All-American RB Mangino brought in, but he didn't do squat in his two years. But if nothing else it will certainly add depth. I do like the sound of this receiver's vitals though, most of our productivity last year was from mighty mites.

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wildjayhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

Kleave, you need to go back to Gill, as much as a stupid idiot you are.

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irvan moore 2 years, 3 months ago

the juco guys are the way to build a program, look west about 60 miles.

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longtimehawk 2 years, 3 months ago

Sure hope Charlie gets something going with the football program as the basketball program is going to hell.

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ManginoRevenge 2 years, 3 months ago

Some schools pass on juco recruits. He has great #s and size and speed. CW knows wideouts when he sees em.

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Robert Brock 2 years, 3 months ago

It comes as a relief that we are now able to beat Savannah State for recruits.

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middleoftheroader 2 years, 3 months ago

I dont know if I i'll ever get used to the acronym 'DCDC', Defensive Coordinator Dave Campo. But i'll try.

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Jayhawk1116 2 years, 3 months ago

Bite it Savannah State, Middle Tennessee State, Sacramento State, Bowling Green, North Texas, Central Arkansas, and Idaho!

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bobinkc 2 years, 3 months ago

The good news just keeps coming. Three good recruits is great news. With head coaching changes doesn't that leave players free to transfer? Can't we get some star players from the likes of a Penn State or other universities where players are unsure of their stature with new coaches coming? Other colleges, similarly lost coaches and players can move. Is that a viable option?

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danmoore 2 years, 3 months ago

We lose Hatch and Biere which are no small concerns but I have every reason to believe our offense will be productive. Defense still worries me. It was so porous that no amount of offense could compensate for it. A good DC can only do so much with the talent he has. Teams will figure us out and expose our weaknesses in a hurry. This is an offense oriented conference but I hope Campo can bring in some talent to shore up the defense.

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Randy Bombardier 2 years, 3 months ago

Darian Miller, Please reconsider. You have a bright future as a Jayhawk. Just work hard and be patient.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 3 months ago

6'4" will 4.4 speed, and college experience. Nice tall target. Nice pickup.

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Ben Kliewer 2 years, 3 months ago

Several points I've noticed. 1. Charlie Weis has taken us beyond the embarrassment of the Turner Gill era and elevated us to the ranks of competing with schools the likes of...Florida International, Middle Tennessee State, Mississippi, New Mexico and Savannah State What?! Come on. A year ago we would've had lengthy board discussions about how this was an embarrassment to our program. 2. Folks threw b*tch fits last year about Gill bringing in so many three star recruits and how that was such a terrible thing and now people are falling all over themselves about Weis's "brilliance" for...bringing in a bunch of three star recruits...I realize we've landed some (mind you, former) five star recruits as well, but come on people... 3. Weis is building an offense, that's clear, but there are only four defensive players on that list of commits and only three D-Linemen...Offense sells tickets (which we need to do) but defense doesn't only win championships, it wins games, period. He better get on the ball for the next twelve he's expected to sign. Again, cautiously optimistic, just trying to keep it real with y'all. I wish I could see the world through Charlie Weis colored glasses (Crimson and Blue) but I've been diseased by the paranoia known as Turner Gill's Syndrome.

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jayhawkfanatic11 2 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know how many spots we have left on the commitment list? I'd love to see more defensive players commit to KU. Welcome Cox, Ford, and Brooks to Jayhawk Nation. Looking forward to seeing you guys play. Rock Chalk!

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ttoulouse 2 years, 3 months ago

Now all we need is the names on the Jerseys so we know who the heck they are!

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JayHok 2 years, 3 months ago

Wow!

1 - When is the Spring Game?

2 - Any chance Weis lands Rodney Coe or Dorial Green-Beckham?

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Ron Prichard 2 years, 3 months ago

Matt, any word on Keeston Terry? I saw a tweet that indicated he may be leaving. Also, is Miller's departure definite? Do you know if we will learn more about them at the big press conference that is supposed to be coming up?

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Keith Hummel 2 years, 3 months ago

Awesome News! The pieces are falling into place. I cannot wait to see these guys play.

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middleoftheroader 2 years, 3 months ago

three 3* players for the offense is good, please lets hear something about Campo getting some good Defensive players soon.

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jhawk23 2 years, 3 months ago

Welcome to the Jayhawk program, gentlemen. We'll love you as long as you work hard on and off the field. You do that and listen to your coaches, and the rest will take care of itself.

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LAJayhawk 2 years, 3 months ago

There's the article. Knew you were plugging away, Matt. Rock Chalk.

BTW, Matt, you tweeted the other day that Miller is almost certainly gone based on his tweets. Is there anything official coming out of this? Seems like he'd need to transfer fairly soon if he is, in fact, leaving.

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drnater 2 years, 3 months ago

As Penny Lane once said, "Its all happening!" lol, Welcome to KU fellas!!! Rock Chalk!

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