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Saturday, February 25, 2012

Brownback not interested in keeping MU rivalry

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— Gov. Sam Brownback says he has no interest in keeping Kansas University’s rivalry with the University of Missouri alive when the Tigers leave the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference next year.

Brownback told reporters Friday on the eve of the last scheduled men’s basketball game between the Jayhawks and Tigers that Missouri is to blame for the storied series ending after 100-plus years.

He said Missouri nearly “cratered” the Big 12 by first talking three years ago about leaving for the Big Ten. Brownback said had the Big 12 dissolved, Kansas and Kansas State would have been in a tough position.

He quoted Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger, that keeping rivalry going would be like a man divorcing his wife, then asking if they can still date.

Comments

Gandalf 2 years, 8 months ago

Does anyone really care what his opinion is?

Doug Cramer 2 years, 8 months ago

Yes we do care...and both he and Zenger are right.

If those S.O.B's want to divorce the conference...then they don't get to play us.

Steven Mathew 2 years, 8 months ago

I see someone's trying to be a loser with his attempt at technicality.

Bob Forer 2 years, 8 months ago

I don't give a damn about what Sammy thinks. Ironically, however, this is one issue that I happen to agree with Brownie.

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

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onlylookin2score 2 years, 8 months ago

So you're comparing Sam Brownback's thought processes with Adolf Hitler... . Do you smell that.??....I smell something... It smells like... like.... a Misery Graduate. Shut up..you stink..

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

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Adam Evans 2 years, 8 months ago

Tons actually. He was an economic and political genius who single handedly united a German nation into one of the greatest economic powers the world has ever seen. Hitler was a brilliant, albeit very very disturbed, man.

Scatterhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

If by "united" you mean, "terrorized with mass-murder".

Scatterhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

If by "united" you mean, "terrorized with mass-murder".

Chad Dexter 2 years, 8 months ago

I find it amazing how politics brings out the "idiot" in people.Comparing him to Hitler is pretty pitiful And no, I did not vote for Brownback.

As for his comments, he is correct. KU does not gain anything by playing MU. Bye bye, MU. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Note2Self 2 years, 8 months ago

I never thought I'd say that either, but I'm 100% behind Governor Brownback on this one . . . In fact, I have is "brown" back on this one . . . LOL! OMFG!

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

Why is Brownback? What does he do back there. Maybe he has rubbed Santorum all over his back.

onlylookin2score 2 years, 8 months ago

I think I see "bad joke eel" swimming around your comment.

Kent Kossoy 2 years, 8 months ago

I am having a hard time understanding how Hitler even made this blog?? Are you a Misery fan bobbysfissure? Or just a crack head??

JayHok 2 years, 8 months ago

Why in the world would Kansas help Mizzou and the SEC keep a footprint in big 12 territory.

Mizzou is left with the St. Louis market and completely lost the state of Texas in recruiting. Let them be the SEC doormat in all sports but don't let them gain any ground inside big 12 territory.

The SEC is understandably upset with Kansas on this because they want the KC market too---and thought it was coming with Mizzou---but the last I heard the Big 12 and Kansas doesn't answer to the SEC.

Why would KU ever promote the image of Mizzou after what they nearly did to the Big 12.

Jeff Schartz 2 years, 7 months ago

Why would a true Kansan ever relent to a Missourian after Quantrill took his liberties like he did. There's a distinct independence between the two side, pre-civil war. Lots of MAJOR blood shed, both sides.

I wouldn't mind a few trips into Rupp, though.... I was there when we kicked Pitino's UK kittens 150-95! I watched Simien and company hand the kittens their a$$e$ in Rupp Arena. I want UK to stumble sooooo bad, so we can take over the all time wins chart, and sprint way ahead!!!!!

HawksWin 2 years, 8 months ago

Well I give a good damn about what our Governor says, including the Jayhawks. He's right about this one, and many other things thank you very much!

syceda 2 years, 8 months ago

Brownbuck is a joke and a very bad one on the state of Kansas.This may be the only time I will agree with him.

KCJay 2 years, 8 months ago

I want to know who told him there is(was) a border war.

Jan Rolls 2 years, 8 months ago

Out of all he has done this is the one and only thing he is right about. Other than that who cares what this right wing jerk with his racially charged legislation thinks?

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

Don't forget Sexist. Father knows best you all.

frompekka2sasha 2 years, 8 months ago

Says someone named Gandalf. Go back to playing with your Frodo action figure and be sure to let Mommy wash your Harry Potter Underoos! Stay cool. Stay cool.

baldwinjhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

I personally don't give a sh*& what BBack thinks. But he's right. It's the Lame Kansas Board of Regents that does not help our universities on the national stage. While every other state was handing over the powers to negotiate realignments and broker deals to individual entities. Chancellor BGL was flying around the country and working the phone lines while the board of regents was back here saying we sure do have high hopes things will work out.... LAME

jhox 2 years, 8 months ago

I agree with the first part of your statement. We should have been looking out of KU, not KU and our ugly purple step sister. However, things worked out pretty well so, in hindsight, it isn't fair to be judging the Chancellor's approach as being wrong.

The Big 12 is on as stable ground as it has been, perhaps since its inception. We've gotten rid of the 3 big cry baby institutions (NU, MU and aTm), and that should help stability. Now the only remaining crybaby is OU. West Virginia is a good pick up for us, TCU I'm not so sure of.

In any event, we're in much better position than MU is. Our student athletes will continue to play natural rivals, they won't have to travel to the other side of the country to play most of their games, and they won't have to go through the meat grinder SEC football schedule. Had the conference folded we would have been in the Big East, and you can see what a mess that conference is. I'd say things worked out pretty well, so I can't criticize BGL or SZ over what might have happened. Their energies were focused on keeping the Big 12 together, and it is impossible to argue that keeping the Big 12 together was not in KU's best interest.

RockCaCO3 2 years, 8 months ago

No. I care what Bill Self's or SZ's opinions are, but not some politician that comes out of the woodwork every election cycle.

Todd 2 years, 8 months ago

Yes, Bilbo cares. He stopped his quest to return to theaters this December to read this article.

jhyphene 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm not reading any further. This comment "does anyone really care what his opinion is?" sums it all up. Didn't he go to K-State undergrad? Lol. I bet he doesn't wan KU to play MU so KU will start to recognize KSU as a rival. Lol.

lemmer 2 years, 8 months ago

why don't you make yourself useful and get you Mom and me another beer from the 'frig.

riverdrifter 2 years, 8 months ago

I agree. I hope brokeback isn't at the game tomorrow and that Zenger offered him no ticket. Up brokeback. He's a K-sucker and this is none of his business.

Bangkok_Jayhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

Good comments. Spot on. I hope the posters will be mature enough to read an article that includes a politician!

79ictjhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

riverdrifter: Brownback got his J.D. from KU - but don't let the facts cloud your opinion.

DevilHawk 2 years, 8 months ago

True. However, K-State doesn't have a law school.

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

I guess your a reading them. So what does that make you? commonsenseanyonebutme.

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

I understand why you'd think that – I just figured it must be his gluteal crevasse, since that's what he displays more often.

bigjay83 2 years, 8 months ago

Well said, Mr. Governor. Now get back to trying to allow doctors to keep important medical information a secret from their patients because of that doctor's personal belief. That's where you're really needed.

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

Beautiful post bigjay83. It won't help to speak truth to stupid. "Genius has it's limits but stupid has no boundaries"(1.) as the gov. shows us every time he opens his mouth.

(1) Einstein. He as the famous Physicist for those of you who don't know.

lemmer 2 years, 8 months ago

"(1.) as the gov. shows us every time he opens his mouth."

or you post a comment

lemmer 2 years, 8 months ago

"(1.) as the gov. shows us every time he opens his mouth."

or you post a comment

Kevin Holt 2 years, 8 months ago

Wow! Some very idiotic comments so far. We all enjoy reading the comments of the anonymous nobodies on here...yet when the governor states his opinion (one which most of us share) people spew contempt. Regardless of his name, political party, or college affiliation, the opinion is well worth hearing on this matter. From the undertones of the comments, I'm guessing that if Bill Snyder and/or George W. Bush endorsed our stance, some of you would probably want to change course and continue the series with the slavers!

KU79 2 years, 8 months ago

Well said. The Brownback bashing is tiresome.

KU79 2 years, 8 months ago

Well said. The Brownback bashing is tiresome.

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

I am sure you are the biggest nobody of all. Who are most of us? I bet you are an avid Fox news watcher.

bad_dog 2 years, 8 months ago

Contempt is earned. Brownback has earned his in spades. Did Brownback even say anything original here? No. He merely repeated the words someone put in his mouth; just like he does when the Koch brothers prompt him.

Trust me, the people posting on this web site (regardless of their political beliefs) have illustrated more original thought than Brownback.

Kid_Bill 2 years, 8 months ago

This may be the only thing I have agreed with Brownback on. I could care less for the rest of the BS that he says/thinks, but why should KU cater to MU? MU made the decision to leave the Big 12 and now it must live with it.

deberg81 2 years, 8 months ago

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Alex Berger 2 years, 8 months ago

The Baylor's women's coach said it better. "If my husband divorces me and then still asks to sleep with me, do you think I'll say yes?"

Robert Brown 2 years, 8 months ago

That was not an original quote, He paraphrased it from the Baylor woman;s basketball coach in reference to playing A&M in the future.

Kevin Long 2 years, 8 months ago

Brownback has done a great job! I love that Kansas is always red as a beet on election day!

Xanthe Sherman Swan 2 years, 8 months ago

You must not live in the state of Kansas if you think he has done anything good for our state!

Geekinout 2 years, 8 months ago

Does anyone even like this political joke?? I know Missery is leaving the conference, but it'd be nice to keep the rivalry going.. There are a number of other schools out there that have rivals in other conferences.

Note2Self 2 years, 8 months ago

We have nothing to gain from keeping the rivalry going. Missouri is never as highly ranked as they are now, and they likely won't be in the future. It would be a yearly trap game for us. If we win, so what. We are Kansas, we are supposed to f%ck them up. If they win, they get a huge tournament resume building victory and get to lord it over KU fans as if their program is equal to ours. I liked owning the Slavers for over 100 years too, but all good things must end. That's how the Slavers wanted it.

Robert Murphy 2 years, 8 months ago

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GraniteHawk 2 years, 8 months ago

Bobbysfissure - enough is enough already. Your political rants (mostly name calling) were read, heard, and are now getting old. We all get that you lean to the left, don't like Brownback and must want us to continue MU in Big 12 markets. Here is to never playing MU again! Not because Brownback says so, but because that is what many loyal Jayhawk's want. By the way, if you don't like the direction of the government, use your vote to change it as I will be happy to do in November

Paul Wilson 2 years, 8 months ago

As it should be. We (the rich) are sick of footing your bill. It's about equality. Why not taxation equality as well. Why do you want to steal from those you perceive as 'rich'? You and the socialist leaches that you represent are a drain on our country. The poor need to pay something and not be allowed to get tax returns larger than what they pay into the system. Bottom line Bobby Marx is that you and your lot of lefties are jealous people who will resort to basic theft to take what is not yours. Robin Hood was nothing but a common criminal...same as any citizen, like yourself, who wants to unfairly tax one group and give it to another.

dynamitehawk 2 years, 8 months ago

I will never vote on party affiliation ever again. EVER. Bush and Obama taught me that. Politics aside, I've enjoyed playing MU when it matters, which is like 4 or 5 times in 35 years. I won't miss playing MU, and it's a great point in that only MU benefits from playing KU going forward. MU: Have fun getting spanked by UK, the Cocks, and that special, special Vandy game.

James McGuire 2 years, 8 months ago

Now, if only 90% of voters would do the same we might get somewhere. All politicians are the same and its not us they care about.

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

If you want feel noble about your vote, just vote against party affiliation - any party.

It isn't too late for us to re-read Washington's Farewell Address and deToqueville's "Democracy in America".

We should classify political parties (and organized churches) as corporations and tax them just like GM or Citibank. That would put a dent in the deficit.

Seth Peattie 2 years, 8 months ago

SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

newmedia 2 years, 8 months ago

I'll bet Kentucky is already licking their chops!!

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

Not really – Kentucky is still busy watching their chops lick their slops.

Mike Tackett 2 years, 8 months ago

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Dan Pawlowski 2 years, 8 months ago

Quite possibly the dumbest comment in a sea of dumb comments.

Joe Joseph 2 years, 8 months ago

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fansincewilt 2 years, 8 months ago

Here's the deal - today Missouri is crossing the border, coming into our state, into Lawrence, to do us harm. We are Kansans. We should all rise up to defend the Jayhawks. This is a day that Kansans will rise up and speak to the evil things that the Missourians have done to us. Today, we are all Kansas - not red, not blue but crimson and blue. This is the day Kansas fights back. Go Jayhawks!

april28 2 years, 8 months ago

now that's funny! not a brownback fan....but it's always good to have the governor on your side.

Robert Brock 2 years, 8 months ago

How about a Brownback/Inhof ticket. THAT would prove that the Earth is flat...

jhkprd 2 years, 8 months ago

President? Why not? It's been quite a GOP circus already, so one more clown will just make it better.

jahawkdave 2 years, 8 months ago

This rivalry is som much bigger than Bback, SZ or even Self, we are all just apart of it and they will possibly part of ending what has endured for 100+ years, as is Missouri. Great rivalrys should endure the test of time and the current stewards of this rivalry should find a way to keep some semblance of this storied hatred that spans more that sports itself. Mizzou is the bad guy so why would expect anything less than them bolting this B12 for their own greed it only adds fuel to our hatred and all the more reason to want to compete.

To compare this relationship to a marriage and dating is idiotic, if anything it has always been a divorce and we hate and fight each other constantly. The hatred is what makes it great. I love to hate Missery I want my kids to experience the rivalry and their kids... There is no other games that compare each year and to not have them to look forward to and intensely watch is a travesty. There is no other regular season games that have that "must win" feeling like March Madness or a bowl game.

KU must swallow it's pride and find away to keep the rivalry going even though it will have lost some of its luster because of the SEC it will be the strongest move SZ and Self could make, even though it would currently not seem like it. As the old saying goes 2 wrongs don't make a right, KU shouldn't follow MU's with one. This is about a very special thing that has grown, endured and festered for a century. It is part of this Nations history and should be kept going to last another 100 years.

I HATE Mizzou and nothing quenches that hate than the chance to compete and beat them every year regardless of conferences, records, AD's, coaches or politics.

Rock Chalk Muck Fizzou

Sean Rodger 2 years, 8 months ago

I totally agree with this comment! I hate that mu has decided to leave the conference, but hating them as a team, a state, or a people is so much bigger than the fact that they aren't in the conference anymore. Rivalries are what make college sports great - they're built on history and tradition and give meaning to college athletics. Today is a great day to hate mu, but a sad day for college sports as it loses one of the most storied rivalries in all of college sports. RCJKU

bjejayhawk69 2 years, 8 months ago

Mizzou is one of the sources or the biggest problem in college athletics today - realignment of conferences. They started a lot of it with thinking they were Big 10 material and when the Big 12 was stabilizing they bolted for the SEC. They are what is wrong with college athletics today (on many levels !). Playing them in basketball only rewards that. Would you want KU in the SEC ? How would that benefit us ? Maybe a few more $$ early on but once TV football contracts come up the Big 12's $$$ will increase for all schools. Not playing MU hurts MU far more than KU. Our basketball in a national brand - pick up a yearly game with Kentucky or Duke or NC. The attention we get hurts MU even more than playing them. Do you think ESPN is going pump up the MU - Vandy rivalry or even the MU- Arkansas "border battle". The only game we could possibly continue to play is football. It brings in $$$ at Camarohead and beating them would hurt make their move the SEC conference look silly. We lose and it may hurt locally but not nationally.

The longer MU is kept out of KC the sooner they will be forgotten. Look at Nebraska in the Big 10 now.

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

Rivalries are a cheap way for schools to keep alive pretenses of relevance when they aren't in the mix EVERY March and April.

Did you know the 3-tiger conference plans to become the Cajun-War Eagle-MethHead and start a campaign to allow incestuous marriages? After all, they now include four states who never seceded.

hawkmaster 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm glad Brownbend settled that for us, I mean HCBS and KU surely can't handle that decision without the Gov's input...how pompous...give me strength!

So if HCBS and KU would have said KU would play Mizzou, then Brownbend would have intervened with his infinite sports knowledge and cut KU's school funding...that's about the spineless approach I would expect.

Who cares..only Brownbend's ego!

Uh oh, I'm in trouble now, he has his internet police tracking the internet for every mention of his name...oh yea, I didn't really use his name!

blindrabbit 2 years, 8 months ago

"Every blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while". The only thing that makes sense from our "C Street" clown, since he has returned to Kansas. He has obviously found a way to bypass Lawrence/Douglas County on his migration from Parker (Lynn County) to Cedar Crest. None of his K-State conservatism rubbed off when he attended KU, for JD.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 8 months ago

Lots of concern here about other political opinions - there are plenty of other appropriate forums for discussing them. It is silly to think that the opinion of a govenor regarding a state uni does not matter.

Glad to see the united front. Mizzoo has been lifting its skirt to everyone in sight for years now. Let them go get gang-banged by a bunch of good ole southern boyz. It's a culture thing.

rockchalkxii 2 years, 8 months ago

Don't even act like if the Big 10, ACC, etc. had come calling we wouldn't have gone. We should keep playing them because today will be fun. Plain and simple.

Ron Prichard 2 years, 8 months ago

First of all, if I'm not mistaken the quote attributable to SZ is actually a quote that originally came from the Baylor women's bball coach referring to playing aTm. Second, regardless of your political affiliation or beliefs, I can't stand politicians getting involved in issues they don't necessarily need to be involved in. Wasn't it Mizzery's idiotic governor whose comments basically pushed MU over the brink on this whole thing? When it comes to issues such as realignment and who KU should play, Brownback's opinion is worth no more or less than any of the rest of us fans. We have a chancellor, board of regents, AD, and coaches whose opinions matter because they know the ramifications of the moves and their statements. A political official is just going to say what he thinks will get him votes. Not what is in the best interests of a school or its fan base.

oldalum 2 years, 8 months ago

Quote: To compare this relationship to a marriage and dating is idiotic, if anything it has always been a divorce and we hate and fight each other constantly


I think you misunderstood the reference. They weren't referring to the KU/MU relationship with this comparison, they were comparing the MU/Big12 relationship. Here is MU still trying to profit from their Big12 connection even though they have walked away from that connection. Missouri is the only one who would profit from a continuation of the rivalry, and if that rivalry meant as much to them as it obviously does to you, they would have stayed in the Big12.

chalked 2 years, 8 months ago

Since when does Brownback have anything to do with KU athletics? Is he politicking? Shut up Sam!

jaybate 2 years, 8 months ago

Governor Brownback would probably have KU wear MU road uniforms and play MU in Columbia for the next 30 years, if he thought it would help him get elected President and punch the Super Corridor through the rest of the way. The US Civil War was fought in significant part to determine who got to build and control the transcontinental railroad and the domestic growth and the shift in global trade that it would enable. There is probably far more at stake with the Super Corridor.

Next.

Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 8 months ago

Title should have read:

Kansas not interested in keeping Brownback as a Governor.

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

When did Sedgewick, Wyandotte, Johnson counties become "Kansas" ?

Travis Shinkle 2 years, 8 months ago

I just read this comment from: http://www.moberlymonitor.com/sports/x1618022459/Alden-talks-schedule-SEC?zc_p=1

A Missouri paper, making the Missouri AD, sound desperate to schedule KU. Here's a clip:

"...As for the nonconference game Missouri fans want most, Alden said Missouri remains open to playing Kansas in all sports. Kansas has so far declined to schedule nonconference games with Missouri, saying their rivalry belongs in the Big 12.

Alden said he offered to play on campus, even starting in Lawrence, or neutral-site games in Kansas City. He also spoke about the possibility of playing another old Big Eight opponent in Kansas City in the future, possibly even Nebraska, another school that left the Big 12 due to stability concerns.

“I have tremendous respect for Coach (Tom) Osborne,” Alden said of the legendary coach who is now the athletic director at Nebraska.

After the meeting, Alden reiterated his desire to play Kansas at whatever location suited the Jayhawks.

“We’ve talked with Kansas,” he said. “We’ve said we’ll do anything you want to do..."

Travis Shinkle 2 years, 8 months ago

For the record, I'd love for Missouri to schedule that non-conference game (in football or basketball) against Nebraska in Kansas City...

...because here is what would happen:

1) Nebraska fans would flood the city filling Arrowhead

or

2) Missouri/Nebraska would play in the Sprint Center in front of 4,000 people...

Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 8 months ago

I was thinking the same thing, Mizzou needs a way to break into KC again. I really doubt Nebraska is going to be able to schedule a game against MU every year unless its basketball...

MU is realizing that nobody wants anything to do with them outside of the SEC... can't wait to watch them finish at/near the bottom of the conference next year!

JayHok 2 years, 8 months ago

They are desperate and that's further reason to not schedule them. The SEC is confused at Mizzou on this but we don't answer to either Mizzou or the SEC. The KC market was up for grabs in the SEC's mind but not if KU stops scheduling Mizzou. KC will always be a big 6,7,8,12 town.

Sorry SEC. Sorry Mizzou.

If Kansas wants to add a heated rival to its schedule, KU should start with Kentucky or Duke and build it up. Mizzou is about 325th on the KU list now after being #1.

RCJ

JayHok 2 years, 8 months ago

Did you read Alden's response about the SEC having the same exact tier 3 rights as the Big 12

It's Larry Curly and Moe over there. It's like he's saying ooops you mean we left and the SEC has the same laws and can create a Longhorn network too?

He goes on to say that hopefully that will be fixed by the SEC.

It was also nice how Alden put the blame on Oklahoma. Well he at least claimed that OU got the wheels in motion for MU to go.

Way to stir things up in your old conference Alden. Next time you might check the facts before leaving!

It makes total sense their fans are worried about this move. It almost makes you feel sorry for Mizzou fans.

By the way, 6 meth labs broken up in Missouri yesterday. However 11 more were created.

John Randall 2 years, 8 months ago

Well, if that's a sincere offer, what we want you to do is ... • drop your skivvies • grab your ankles • aim that a$$-crack 40° south of due east

Cody Stumma 2 years, 8 months ago

Personally, I don't give a damn for Brownback's opinion. He sucks as a governor and I can't wait until he is out.

Lance Cheney 2 years, 8 months ago

Just reading the headline of this article, I knew it would turn into a political forum with everybody whining about Brownback.

NH_JHawk 2 years, 8 months ago

ditto that ic -

Nothing like politics to whip the masses into a frenzy before the game. Give it a rest people. Don't you get enough of this crap during the rest of the week? All of us have our (strong) opinions regarding the politics of this state/country, but this isn't the forum to be bashing each other incessantly about our individual political ideologies. I would hope that for today we could all set aside our differences and just coexist as Jayhawk Nation. RCJH BEAT MIZZOU!

Redlandsjhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

Mizzou leaving the BigXII for the SEC raises the strength of schedule and academic standing of both leagues.

mikehawk 2 years, 8 months ago

Don't you hate it when politicians grab out at low hanging fruit. This is about as low hanging as they come. Stick to real problems...Gov. The school and the fans can handle this issue just fine.

wfzman 2 years, 8 months ago

Finally! The Governor takes a position that I can agree with.

Stephen Johnson 2 years, 8 months ago

I like the governor and I agree with the statement

Steve Brown 2 years, 8 months ago

Whether you prefer MSNBC or FOX/ support tea party or occupy wall street, I support your right to decide. Our diversity makes us stronger.

We have common goal, support KU and strengthen B12.

Miz Gov. Nixon had his thumbs all over the departure. Plays very well for him, especially in Eastern Mo.

Our gov. was giving Mo. a counterpunch. Saying, Self and Zenger have made it clear, don't come to Topeka, for any leverage.

Mo. made the right choice for them, yet their flirtations the last three years almost sent Texas and Sooners west leaving us and KState in a lurch.

More important to us, Topeka has been and continues to move major KCMO corporations across state line to generate more income for the Ks. side.

You are entitled to your favorite pol, mine is the Iron Lady, since I heard her speak in DFW years ago. Powerful, passionate defender of freedom allowing you to have and keep your view.

Phoghat 2 years, 8 months ago

Great analysis . . . and cheers as well to your "favorite pol". I've admired her steadfastness to the the cause of freedom for years. I just wish more U.S. citizens shared that love of individual liberty. We are sadly losing that vital part of our national character in favor of ever bigger government and its broken promises. But, on a brighter note, the promise of KU Bball always gives me something to cheer, too!

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 2 years, 8 months ago

I disagree with Brownback on nearly everything and think that he represents everything that is wrong with our political culture in Kansas....

but....

He's right on this one.

Rock Chalk. We are Red and we are Blue.

But the Jayhawk is both colors, just like us.

KILL MIZZOU!

jumpinjayhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

Missouri abandoned the Jayhawks ant the Big 12. Screw them, let them suffer alone at the cellar of the SEC.

Gregory Newman 2 years, 8 months ago

a game with Mizzou only benefits Mizzou because the Hawks will get coverage because of its academic standing that most doesn't think that matters but it does. I live in Cali. Phil Knight wanted Kansas basketball for marketing Nike if he could pull them away from Adidas because he said it.

Stanford wanted to share research dollars. Kansas is well respected in Cali. The alumni live real well out here. Espn loves Kansas for marketing until they reach as far as the sweet 16 in basketball. I know its about football but Kansas gets respect in Cali. The Pac-10 didn't go after Kansas because they felt that they were tied to the hip with KSU. They wanted KU over OSU. The hawks need to recruit football players out here and quit trying to get 3 star Texans

Krohnutz 2 years, 8 months ago

Big thread going from some more ESPN rhetoric to keep the rivalry going. Few things from the Nutz:

  1. No out-of-conference basketball game will EVER matter as much or have as much meaning.

  2. Had KU joined another conference we would NOT expect Kansas State, Mizzou, or any other Big 12 team to schedule us for jack squat.

  3. Furthermore, had KU joined another conference we would not expect the Big 12 to schedule conference events in our state (unless it was to benefit Kansas State).

If you think KU should schedule these guys to "keep it going," you are on cocaine. This is not football, where you can have bigtime rivalry games like Notre Dame and USC.

I will not miss these hillbilly jackasses. Let the ex-girlfriend go.

blindrabbit 2 years, 8 months ago

theebest: Thee best comments I've read so far; completely agree that the West Coast is the way to go, maybe eventually if conference realignment comes up again. Was hoping we would have gotten a Pac-12 invite in the past. Another thing, regarding recruits, KU has had very good luck recruiting on the "left coast", especially in basketball. Kids out "there" seem to have less personal issues and "baggage" than those from urban Midwest, the East Coast and/or the South. Have to admit I am biased, but having lived Back East for many years, enough is enough!

Bill Shaw 2 years, 7 months ago

Is there some arena in Kansas where the Big 12 championship games can be held? Kansas should not play any more games in Mo. including in the Sprint Center or at Arrowhead. Mo., your departure is your loss, not ours.

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