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Saturday, February 25, 2012

Brownback not interested in keeping MU rivalry

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— Gov. Sam Brownback says he has no interest in keeping Kansas University’s rivalry with the University of Missouri alive when the Tigers leave the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference next year.

Brownback told reporters Friday on the eve of the last scheduled men’s basketball game between the Jayhawks and Tigers that Missouri is to blame for the storied series ending after 100-plus years.

He said Missouri nearly “cratered” the Big 12 by first talking three years ago about leaving for the Big Ten. Brownback said had the Big 12 dissolved, Kansas and Kansas State would have been in a tough position.

He quoted Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger, that keeping rivalry going would be like a man divorcing his wife, then asking if they can still date.

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Bill Shaw 2 years, 1 month ago

Is there some arena in Kansas where the Big 12 championship games can be held? Kansas should not play any more games in Mo. including in the Sprint Center or at Arrowhead. Mo., your departure is your loss, not ours.

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blindrabbit 2 years, 1 month ago

theebest: Thee best comments I've read so far; completely agree that the West Coast is the way to go, maybe eventually if conference realignment comes up again. Was hoping we would have gotten a Pac-12 invite in the past. Another thing, regarding recruits, KU has had very good luck recruiting on the "left coast", especially in basketball. Kids out "there" seem to have less personal issues and "baggage" than those from urban Midwest, the East Coast and/or the South. Have to admit I am biased, but having lived Back East for many years, enough is enough!

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Krohnutz 2 years, 1 month ago

Big thread going from some more ESPN rhetoric to keep the rivalry going. Few things from the Nutz:

  1. No out-of-conference basketball game will EVER matter as much or have as much meaning.

  2. Had KU joined another conference we would NOT expect Kansas State, Mizzou, or any other Big 12 team to schedule us for jack squat.

  3. Furthermore, had KU joined another conference we would not expect the Big 12 to schedule conference events in our state (unless it was to benefit Kansas State).

If you think KU should schedule these guys to "keep it going," you are on cocaine. This is not football, where you can have bigtime rivalry games like Notre Dame and USC.

I will not miss these hillbilly jackasses. Let the ex-girlfriend go.

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Gregory Newman 2 years, 1 month ago

a game with Mizzou only benefits Mizzou because the Hawks will get coverage because of its academic standing that most doesn't think that matters but it does. I live in Cali. Phil Knight wanted Kansas basketball for marketing Nike if he could pull them away from Adidas because he said it.

Stanford wanted to share research dollars. Kansas is well respected in Cali. The alumni live real well out here. Espn loves Kansas for marketing until they reach as far as the sweet 16 in basketball. I know its about football but Kansas gets respect in Cali. The Pac-10 didn't go after Kansas because they felt that they were tied to the hip with KSU. They wanted KU over OSU. The hawks need to recruit football players out here and quit trying to get 3 star Texans

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Oread420 2 years, 1 month ago

I didn't vote for Governor Fudgepack but he's right about this one

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jumpinjayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Missouri abandoned the Jayhawks ant the Big 12. Screw them, let them suffer alone at the cellar of the SEC.

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 2 years, 1 month ago

I disagree with Brownback on nearly everything and think that he represents everything that is wrong with our political culture in Kansas....

but....

He's right on this one.

Rock Chalk. We are Red and we are Blue.

But the Jayhawk is both colors, just like us.

KILL MIZZOU!

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Janet Scott 2 years, 1 month ago

Who are the Kansas US Senators now? Never hear from or about either one of them here on the East Coast. Do they do anything or stand for anything, or are they two cold corpses awaiting burial with full political honors?

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Steve Brown 2 years, 1 month ago

Whether you prefer MSNBC or FOX/ support tea party or occupy wall street, I support your right to decide. Our diversity makes us stronger.

We have common goal, support KU and strengthen B12.

Miz Gov. Nixon had his thumbs all over the departure. Plays very well for him, especially in Eastern Mo.

Our gov. was giving Mo. a counterpunch. Saying, Self and Zenger have made it clear, don't come to Topeka, for any leverage.

Mo. made the right choice for them, yet their flirtations the last three years almost sent Texas and Sooners west leaving us and KState in a lurch.

More important to us, Topeka has been and continues to move major KCMO corporations across state line to generate more income for the Ks. side.

You are entitled to your favorite pol, mine is the Iron Lady, since I heard her speak in DFW years ago. Powerful, passionate defender of freedom allowing you to have and keep your view.

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Stephen Johnson 2 years, 1 month ago

I like the governor and I agree with the statement

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wfzman 2 years, 1 month ago

Finally! The Governor takes a position that I can agree with.

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mikehawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Don't you hate it when politicians grab out at low hanging fruit. This is about as low hanging as they come. Stick to real problems...Gov. The school and the fans can handle this issue just fine.

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Redlandsjhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Mizzou leaving the BigXII for the SEC raises the strength of schedule and academic standing of both leagues.

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Lance Cheney 2 years, 1 month ago

Just reading the headline of this article, I knew it would turn into a political forum with everybody whining about Brownback.

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Cody Stumma 2 years, 1 month ago

Personally, I don't give a damn for Brownback's opinion. He sucks as a governor and I can't wait until he is out.

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Travis Shinkle 2 years, 1 month ago

I just read this comment from: http://www.moberlymonitor.com/sports/x1618022459/Alden-talks-schedule-SEC?zc_p=1

A Missouri paper, making the Missouri AD, sound desperate to schedule KU. Here's a clip:

"...As for the nonconference game Missouri fans want most, Alden said Missouri remains open to playing Kansas in all sports. Kansas has so far declined to schedule nonconference games with Missouri, saying their rivalry belongs in the Big 12.

Alden said he offered to play on campus, even starting in Lawrence, or neutral-site games in Kansas City. He also spoke about the possibility of playing another old Big Eight opponent in Kansas City in the future, possibly even Nebraska, another school that left the Big 12 due to stability concerns.

“I have tremendous respect for Coach (Tom) Osborne,” Alden said of the legendary coach who is now the athletic director at Nebraska.

After the meeting, Alden reiterated his desire to play Kansas at whatever location suited the Jayhawks.

“We’ve talked with Kansas,” he said. “We’ve said we’ll do anything you want to do..."

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Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 1 month ago

Title should have read:

Kansas not interested in keeping Brownback as a Governor.

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jaybate 2 years, 1 month ago

Governor Brownback would probably have KU wear MU road uniforms and play MU in Columbia for the next 30 years, if he thought it would help him get elected President and punch the Super Corridor through the rest of the way. The US Civil War was fought in significant part to determine who got to build and control the transcontinental railroad and the domestic growth and the shift in global trade that it would enable. There is probably far more at stake with the Super Corridor.

Next.

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chalked 2 years, 1 month ago

Since when does Brownback have anything to do with KU athletics? Is he politicking? Shut up Sam!

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Brett Glover 2 years, 1 month ago

Are we all agreed, Self for Gov?

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oldalum 2 years, 1 month ago

Quote: To compare this relationship to a marriage and dating is idiotic, if anything it has always been a divorce and we hate and fight each other constantly


I think you misunderstood the reference. They weren't referring to the KU/MU relationship with this comparison, they were comparing the MU/Big12 relationship. Here is MU still trying to profit from their Big12 connection even though they have walked away from that connection. Missouri is the only one who would profit from a continuation of the rivalry, and if that rivalry meant as much to them as it obviously does to you, they would have stayed in the Big12.

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Janet Scott 2 years, 1 month ago

Sammy B is a wind bag. A laughable joke. Strutting around in the limelight, stating the obvious and looking like a "Peter Pan of Politics", without the brains.

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Ron Prichard 2 years, 1 month ago

First of all, if I'm not mistaken the quote attributable to SZ is actually a quote that originally came from the Baylor women's bball coach referring to playing aTm. Second, regardless of your political affiliation or beliefs, I can't stand politicians getting involved in issues they don't necessarily need to be involved in. Wasn't it Mizzery's idiotic governor whose comments basically pushed MU over the brink on this whole thing? When it comes to issues such as realignment and who KU should play, Brownback's opinion is worth no more or less than any of the rest of us fans. We have a chancellor, board of regents, AD, and coaches whose opinions matter because they know the ramifications of the moves and their statements. A political official is just going to say what he thinks will get him votes. Not what is in the best interests of a school or its fan base.

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rockchalkxii 2 years, 1 month ago

Don't even act like if the Big 10, ACC, etc. had come calling we wouldn't have gone. We should keep playing them because today will be fun. Plain and simple.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

Lots of concern here about other political opinions - there are plenty of other appropriate forums for discussing them. It is silly to think that the opinion of a govenor regarding a state uni does not matter.

Glad to see the united front. Mizzoo has been lifting its skirt to everyone in sight for years now. Let them go get gang-banged by a bunch of good ole southern boyz. It's a culture thing.

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blindrabbit 2 years, 1 month ago

"Every blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while". The only thing that makes sense from our "C Street" clown, since he has returned to Kansas. He has obviously found a way to bypass Lawrence/Douglas County on his migration from Parker (Lynn County) to Cedar Crest. None of his K-State conservatism rubbed off when he attended KU, for JD.

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hawkmaster 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm glad Brownbend settled that for us, I mean HCBS and KU surely can't handle that decision without the Gov's input...how pompous...give me strength!

So if HCBS and KU would have said KU would play Mizzou, then Brownbend would have intervened with his infinite sports knowledge and cut KU's school funding...that's about the spineless approach I would expect.

Who cares..only Brownbend's ego!

Uh oh, I'm in trouble now, he has his internet police tracking the internet for every mention of his name...oh yea, I didn't really use his name!

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jahawkdave 2 years, 1 month ago

This rivalry is som much bigger than Bback, SZ or even Self, we are all just apart of it and they will possibly part of ending what has endured for 100+ years, as is Missouri. Great rivalrys should endure the test of time and the current stewards of this rivalry should find a way to keep some semblance of this storied hatred that spans more that sports itself. Mizzou is the bad guy so why would expect anything less than them bolting this B12 for their own greed it only adds fuel to our hatred and all the more reason to want to compete.

To compare this relationship to a marriage and dating is idiotic, if anything it has always been a divorce and we hate and fight each other constantly. The hatred is what makes it great. I love to hate Missery I want my kids to experience the rivalry and their kids... There is no other games that compare each year and to not have them to look forward to and intensely watch is a travesty. There is no other regular season games that have that "must win" feeling like March Madness or a bowl game.

KU must swallow it's pride and find away to keep the rivalry going even though it will have lost some of its luster because of the SEC it will be the strongest move SZ and Self could make, even though it would currently not seem like it. As the old saying goes 2 wrongs don't make a right, KU shouldn't follow MU's with one. This is about a very special thing that has grown, endured and festered for a century. It is part of this Nations history and should be kept going to last another 100 years.

I HATE Mizzou and nothing quenches that hate than the chance to compete and beat them every year regardless of conferences, records, AD's, coaches or politics.

Rock Chalk Muck Fizzou

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jhkprd 2 years, 1 month ago

President? Why not? It's been quite a GOP circus already, so one more clown will just make it better.

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Colin Fernandes 2 years, 1 month ago

Governor Brownback for President

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fansincewilt 2 years, 1 month ago

Here's the deal - today Missouri is crossing the border, coming into our state, into Lawrence, to do us harm. We are Kansans. We should all rise up to defend the Jayhawks. This is a day that Kansans will rise up and speak to the evil things that the Missourians have done to us. Today, we are all Kansas - not red, not blue but crimson and blue. This is the day Kansas fights back. Go Jayhawks!

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Mike Tackett 2 years, 1 month ago

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newmedia 2 years, 1 month ago

I'll bet Kentucky is already licking their chops!!

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Seth Peattie 2 years, 1 month ago

SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dynamitehawk 2 years, 1 month ago

I will never vote on party affiliation ever again. EVER. Bush and Obama taught me that. Politics aside, I've enjoyed playing MU when it matters, which is like 4 or 5 times in 35 years. I won't miss playing MU, and it's a great point in that only MU benefits from playing KU going forward. MU: Have fun getting spanked by UK, the Cocks, and that special, special Vandy game.

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Robert Murphy 2 years, 1 month ago

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Geekinout 2 years, 1 month ago

Does anyone even like this political joke?? I know Missery is leaving the conference, but it'd be nice to keep the rivalry going.. There are a number of other schools out there that have rivals in other conferences.

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Kevin Long 2 years, 1 month ago

Brownback has done a great job! I love that Kansas is always red as a beet on election day!

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Steven Foster 2 years, 1 month ago

Who gives a damn what Brownback wants?

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deberg81 2 years, 1 month ago

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Kid_Bill 2 years, 1 month ago

This may be the only thing I have agreed with Brownback on. I could care less for the rest of the BS that he says/thinks, but why should KU cater to MU? MU made the decision to leave the Big 12 and now it must live with it.

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Kevin Holt 2 years, 1 month ago

Wow! Some very idiotic comments so far. We all enjoy reading the comments of the anonymous nobodies on here...yet when the governor states his opinion (one which most of us share) people spew contempt. Regardless of his name, political party, or college affiliation, the opinion is well worth hearing on this matter. From the undertones of the comments, I'm guessing that if Bill Snyder and/or George W. Bush endorsed our stance, some of you would probably want to change course and continue the series with the slavers!

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bigjay83 2 years, 1 month ago

Well said, Mr. Governor. Now get back to trying to allow doctors to keep important medical information a secret from their patients because of that doctor's personal belief. That's where you're really needed.

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riverdrifter 2 years, 1 month ago

I agree. I hope brokeback isn't at the game tomorrow and that Zenger offered him no ticket. Up brokeback. He's a K-sucker and this is none of his business.

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Gandalf 2 years, 1 month ago

Does anyone really care what his opinion is?

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