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Originally published February 1, 2012 at 03:49p.m., updated February 1, 2012 at 04:13p.m.

KU coach Charlie Weis: Recruiting class ‘filled several of our declared needs’

Kansas football coach Charlie Weis talked to the media on Wednesday about his first recruiting class at KU.

Kansas football coach Charlie Weis talked to the media on Wednesday about his first recruiting class at KU.

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Kansas football coach Charlie Weis talks to reporters about his first recruiting class during a National Signing Day press conference on Wednesday, Feb. 1, 2012.

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Kansas football coach Charlie Weis said his first recruiting class was aimed at filling some glaring weaknesses, which included defensive line and quarterback. Weis spoke during a National Signing Day press conference on Wednesday afternoon at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

"There's plenty of holes yet to fill," Weis said, "but I think we made a good start."

KU announced the signing of 20 players on Wednesday, though Weis said there were "multiple" additions that would take place in May after a few players completed their college degrees at other schools.

Weis also said there were a couple prospects KU was actively recruiting that would not sign on Wednesday. Those players were down to KU and another school and would make a decision at a later date.

Weis mentioned that he hoped that his foundation in recruiting would be players that live a drivable distance from campus.

Here's a summary of Weis' comments Wednesday on each of KU's 17 signees that are not already on campus.

Greg Allen, 5-11, 190, DB

Weis said Allen was a physical corner with a lot of athleticism and a track-and-field background.

Courtney Arnick, 6-2, 205, LB

Weis said he wants guys that can run, and Arnick is one of those guys. He was aggressive on tape and made tackles all over the field. Weis could see huge upside with him.

Turner Baty, 6-2, 220, QB

Weis said everyone could see there still was a glaring hole for KU at quarterback, even after bringing in Dayne Crist and Jake Heaps. KU found one of the more unique opportunities with Turner, as he has four years to complete three years of eligibility after playing one year at a juco.

"That's going to provide a lot more competition at the quarterback position," Weis said.

Brian Beckmann, 6-6, 315, OL

Weis said sign him up any time a kid is 6-foot-6, 315 pounds and local (from Overland Park/Blue Valley West).

"He probably would have been most of the recruited players in the country, but he got hurt and couldn't play this year," Weis said.

Charles Brooks, 6-6, 240, TE

Weis likes to throw to his tight end, and he thinks Brooks' best football is ahead of him. Though it's not a fair comparison to Brooks, he's a bit like the New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham in that he didn't start playing football until late. Brooks, a juco transfer, only started playing football his senior year of high school.

"He should walk in the door and compete at that position," Weis said.

Sean Connolly, 6-7, 290, OL

He was late addition to Weis' class, and the coach says Connolly is 6-foot-7, 290 pounds "and he's just a puppy." Weis said he likes big bodies to work with and develop, and he believes Connolly's best football is ahead of him.

Of Beckman and Connolly, Weis said: "I think bringing in these two big tackles bodes well for our future, especially at that position."

Taylor Cox 5-11, 206, RB

Weis said when he landed in Weed, Calif. — to visit Cox at College of the Siskiyous — KU offensive line coach Tim Grunhard was with him, and Grunhard's phone said the closest place to get a bite to eat was 27 miles away. The place is remote.

Weis said Cox, though, was a stud running back.

Josh Ford, 6-3, 190, WR

Weis said Ford is a tall guy that runs fast, makes catches and is a productive player. Ford also was a member of Arizona Western's 4X200 relay team.

"The quarterbacks were excited when they saw him on the visit," Weis said, "and they weren't alone."

Tyler Holmes, 6-3, 280, DL

Weis said Holmes is every bit of 6-foot-3, 280 pounds, calling him a "rocked-up dude."

Weis said Holmes was polished and carried himself well. When Weis visited Holmes' high school, everyone there loved Holmes.

Ty McKinney, 6-3, 310, DL

Weis said McKinney has gotten himself into good shape, but jokingly, Weis was disappointed on his visit when McKinney refused to eat barbecue with him, saying he didn't like it.

Weis said McKinney had the big-body type that sometimes a team is missing. The coach won't worry about him getting knocked off the ball.

Schyler Miles, 6-2, 220, LB

Weis said he told Florida coach Will Muschamp the only guy that UF offered that KU was recruiting was Schyler Miles.

Florida wanted Miles as a running back, while Weis wanted him as a linebacker.

Weis believes there are ethics involved in recruiting, especially for people that treated him right at Florida, so that was the only player he went after that the Gators were pursuing.

Weis actually made two home visits with Miles, one as assistant with Florida and one as head at KU.

Weis said Miles is a guy that, on tape, seems to make 20 tackles nearly every game. Weis said he knew that Miles was coming to KU on Friday, though that the fact that wasn't made public until Wednesday morning was a credit to both Miles and KU's administration.

Nasir Moore, 6-1, 185, DB

Weis met Moore when he was on Florida's staff recruiting an offensive lineman on his same juco team. Moore originally was a receiver, but because of a team need, he flipped to defensive back last year without any training and performed at a high level. He has good size at 6-foot, 185 pounds.

Tre Parmalee, 5-10, 170, WR

Weis coached Tre's father, Bernie, when he was with the New York Jets, then served on the same coaching staff as him during his tenures with Notre Dame and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Weis has known Tre for a long, long time. Weis went to one of Grunhard's 7-on-7 summer workouts, and every time he looked up, Tre was making a catch.

When Weis sat down with Tre once, he told the coach, "I think I want to play defensive back." Weis said, "You were named the best receiver in the area. Why would you want to play defensive back?"

Tre is 5-foot-10, 165 pounds. His father — who played 11 years in the pros as a running back — was also 5-10, 165 pounds when he graduated from high school.

"If he ends up looking or playing anything like his dad, sign me up right now," Weis said.

Jordan Smith, 6-5, 240, TE

When he first heard about Smith, Weis saw he was listed at 6-foot-5, 210 pounds, and he wondered what he was going to do. The coach went down to see Smith, and he was really 6-5, 240 pounds.

"Every time I see him, it looks like he's five pounds bigger," Weis said.

Weis said Smith is an athletic tight end that makes a lot of plays.

Keon Stowers, 6-3, 280, DL

Stowers is a player that Weis saw during his first week on the job at KU. Weis said one interesting thing was that Stowers' face looks exactly like former NFL running back Herschel Walker. He even asked him when he met him if Walker was his father.

Jordan Tavai, 6-3, 290, DL

Weis said there were still schools trying to steal Tavai at 11:20 p.m. Tuesday night.

When he came on his visit, he wasn't planning on coming to Kansas. After taking his visit, he sat in Weis' office and told him, "This is nothing like I thought it was going to be."

Weis said the biggest battle KU faces in recruiting is getting players to visit KU in the first place.

"Our job is to make sure Kansas is not a secret," Weis said. "Get them to our facility, which sells itself, and see if we can get them on board."

Weis said he was glad Tavai stayed true to his KU commitment.

Ty'ree Williams, 6-0, 189, DB

Weis said he likes physical corners, and Ty'ree was the typical physical corner. He also has good size at 6-foot, 190 pounds.

Weis completed the press conference by complimenting his current players, saying, "Early returns out of the weight room have almost been too positive as of right now." He even mentioned that KU strength and conditioning coordinator Scott Holsopple was upset Wednesday morning because no one had screwed up enough to get put on the Saturday morning run list as punishment.

Weis also said he would be leaving this week to join his wife for a vacation in Puerto Rico. He will watch the Super Bowl there.

Comments

hi_c21 2 years, 6 months ago

Forgot the second N on Beckmann. I have a feeling that kid is going to be good for the KU O-line...too bad he was injured his senior year...

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Jesse Newell 2 years, 6 months ago

Thanks. It should be fixed above.

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Charlotte_Jhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Looks like a pretty good list of size and athletic ability. Go Hawks!!

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 6 months ago

Let's not forget this class was thrown together in about a months time. Imagine what happens with a full year of player evaluation and recruiting. Yikes!

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Randy Bombardier 2 years, 6 months ago

I agree. I think it was a solid job to not only grab some real QB talent but to plug some major holes. I think HCCW will really get us on the map with his personal involvement and name recognition.

What do you think about Bourban at TE?

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 6 months ago

Nope, Bourbon's to much of a badass to be put at TE. LB maybe but I think he was one of the most underutilize backs we have. So much so that I'm sure he would of transferred out to a better school and became a feature back had Gill been given another year.

And with our new pro style offense I'd look for him to get more reps than Sims. Based on being a threat to run and the ability to pass block.

And i'll play the race card and say anyone with New England ties loves them some tough nosed white boys. And realize intelligence and toughness often beats pure athleticism, and Brandon has both of those.

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texashawk10 2 years, 6 months ago

The biggest problem with Bourbon is he appears to be fairly injury prone with his broken leg his redshirt year and a concussion that cost him a good chunk of playing time last year. I don't think LB would be a good move for Bourbon because he is more susceptible to concussions now and we all know how much helmet to helmet contact LB's take. RB is still his best fit because he is the best power back KU has and he has some wheels to go with that power. Cox and Sims aren't true power backs but neither has breakaway speed and Pierson isn't a power back by any stretch of the imagination and is probably the fastest player on the team so Bourbon offers the best mix of speed and power and if he stays healthy (big question mark at this point), he's probably the best all around back KU has now that Miller is gone.

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railer20 2 years, 6 months ago

He's not a RB anymore! Our best Defensive player

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april28 2 years, 6 months ago

Weis kept mentioning that it's about building relationships. With a full year to work on next year's class, I believe we could jump up considerably in overall rankings and in actual talent.

Using a Sabre Metrics approach (not to be confused with Sabre Printers sold by Dunder Mifflin), I think that a school like KU needs to get away from a focus on quantity and instead focus on quality.

We constantly hear about the idea that only 1/3rd of a class actually pans out. What, if instead of getting 8 contributors per class, you were able to get 10 or 12?

Each time I hear Charlie speak, I think that we have a really smart guy in charge who is going to figure out a way to get us to bowl games every year.

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martyks 2 years, 6 months ago

Problem is, at ND, they said the same thing and he was mostly smoke and mirrors there. I hope the snake oil is real this time.

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littlerichard 2 years, 6 months ago

Charlie's last year at ND did not go the way he wanted, but every loss was by 7 pts. or less, and that included some top ten teams. Some times the dice don't shake out your way. So if we stop the embarrassing blowouts and earn some respect this year, I'll be happy.

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Steve Reigle 2 years, 6 months ago

Hmmm, not a big deal but I find it interesting they couldn't find a place to eat closer than 27 miles from Weed, CA. I've been to Weed a few times while spending time at the campground at nearby Lake Siskiyou. Weed is right next to I-5 and is 10 miles up that interstate from the town of Mt Shasta, which has several good restaurants. Maybe they arrived late Sunday evening. It's not exactly remote, though.

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Jason Keller 2 years, 6 months ago

Perhaps we all had our hopes a tad bit too high. When Weis was hired, I couldn't help but to imagine loads of 4 and 5 star recruits dying to play for Charlie Weis. That's just not realistic in an atomosphere as competitive as this one. We got a solid class that addressed some of the major issues with Gill's team last year. Plus, a good quarterback will cover up a lot of our weaknesses on offense, although I'm not sure we will have many.

Quarterback - check Running backs - check, check, check Receivers- check, check Tight End - check Offensive line - check, check, check, check, check

You see what I did there? Geez I crack myself up. (remind you of any writers?)

This Schyler Miles kid has me excited. He attacks the ball furociously and relentlessly. He has an awesome motor already as a highschool player. He should be able to fill Steven's shoes. Now let's put them to work coach.

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Vaildini 2 years, 6 months ago

I think we will see Tharp back to old form as well.

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NebraskaJayhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

"He even mentioned that KU strength and conditioning coordinator Scott Holsopple was upset Wednesday morning because no one had screwed up enough to get put on the Saturday morning run list as punishment."

The current players know they better work their butts off. I am so excited about football season...wow. Obviously time will tell, but this looks like a good recruiting class for Weis's first year. And like ahperse said....in a short amount of time.

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KGphoto 2 years, 6 months ago

Rankings be damned. I like this class.

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chalky 2 years, 6 months ago

No doubt...Things will work out in the end. He did well, coming in on the heels of a downtrodden regime, and trying to get the attention of even nominal recruits. Even Gill did not have to follow himself.

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gardenjay 2 years, 6 months ago

Exactly. Rankings according to ESPN means everyone recruits the same number of players and only from high school on signing day. Something like this.

So with that many boundary conditions which are disimilar it is total garbage to rank the KU recruitment. It does not consider two 5-star quarterbacks; we out-recruited Texas at that position - how ridiculous is that?

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njayhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

HFCCW - Gr8 hire!! Whole staff - group of Gr8 hires!!!

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Andy Tweedy 2 years, 6 months ago

I'm with Nebraska on this one. The best thing I read in that article is how pleased the strength coach is with the current players! Clearly, that wasn't a strength on this team last year. I firmly believe there are some good young players on this team, and I'm hoping the right coaches will immediately get this team to be competitive, at least with the likes of TT, ISU and K-State, maybe even Baylor. At least I hope so...

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Dyrk Dugan 2 years, 6 months ago

HCCW did what he was supposed to do in this class....shore up glaring needs. and that was at QB and D-line. and he did it...did it in droves.

Now for next year, we need to pursue athletes and LBs....get some more o-lineman...and maybe get a stud HS QB. then it's a matter of year in and year out for the next few, just getting the absolute best players across the board.

there's no doubt we're an improved football program already...just the addition of the head coach, his staff, and the focused effort on actually building a real football team, that can compete and win football games. this is in stark contrast to what we had before. Bless Turner Gill's heart, but he just didn't have the right urgency, as his frame of mind.

Welcome to all the new players...i think you'll enjoy your stay in Lawrence...and let's get some Ws! Go Jayhawks!

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 6 months ago

Seriously ljw. Do you know how much trouble I have to go through setting up these alter egos? Thinking of the names, setting up a new email account, signing in, confirming the account just to have it erased in a matter of minutes. Not to mention how long it takes me to log in with this account. Go ahead and try spelling ahpersecoachingexperience on an iPhone screen. Takes about an hour and a half!

What's wrong with turners_mom? I mean, matts_taint I understand but theres nothing wrong with turners_mom offering up a little contest to get fan support going and maybe grabbing a chuckle from some readers. And who says it was Baty's mom? Maybe it was Turner Gills mom, maybe it was just some lady that had a son named Turner that goes to ku

Anyway, rest in peace turners_mom. May azalum, mulaza, fatlittlegirlfriends, sheahoRn, and matts_taint great you at those pearly gates in message board heaven.

(disclaimer: I totally understand what's wrong with the name and it was probably best it was removed before things got out of hand. gawd that was funny. At least to me it was!)

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rockemchalkemrobots 2 years, 6 months ago

You won't find a bigger fan of your shtick on this site than me, but turners_mom crossed the line, and by "crossed", I mean it blew through it like Drunk Pinkel through a red light. Be safe with your main moniker, I can't imagine the trouble it is to set up a new twitter account. Now that you're a social networking maven, you have to think globally. FYI- I think Turner's mom already has a twitter account, so don't get any crazy ideas.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 6 months ago

Be careful. She knows how to take you out in a heart beat - and smile doing it.

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lv_jhwk 2 years, 6 months ago

So does there need to be any more proof of where the program was headed under Mangino than all of the "holes to fill" comments? Yes, Gill obviously helped in the decline, but his recruits were either redshirted, freshmen, or possibly a few sophomores this past year. That's not the nucleus of a successful team. No, it's Mangino's inability to use the Orange Bowl success to reload and further bolster an experienced roster his last few seasons that is the main culprit for where this team is currently at. Thankfully, Weis seems to have quickly put a finger on what ills the team has and is doing as much as he can to cure them as soon as possible.

(And no, this argument doesn't provide support for Gill... he showed more than enough that he wasn't cut for the position.)

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ShazzyD 2 years, 6 months ago

I think where you are wrong is in not recognizing that Mangino's strength was in moving players around and growing them. Most of the best players in the Mangino era were 2 star recruits and guys that got moved to new positions. While he may have recruited the players Gill was playing, he wasn't there to coach them. You can't fault Mangino for our current the holes in our current roster because you don't know what he would have done with those players had he been coaching them the past two years.

Just sayin.

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ShazzyD 2 years, 6 months ago

-- From Rivals -- Anthony Collins - 2 stars - Defensive End James Holt - 2 stars - Defensive Back Aqib Talib - 2 stars Joe Mortensen - 2 stars Rivera - 3 stars Stuckey - 3 stars Meier - 3 star QB Sal Capra - 2 star LB Sharp - 3 star Reesing - 3 star Briscoe - 3 star Laptad - 2 star Chris Harris - 2 star Jeff Spikes - 2 star

Those are the guys that Mangino both recruited AND coached. many of them are now in the NFL. We have no idea how the 2008 and 2009 recruiting classes would doing right now if Mangino had coached them. There is no way to know. But Mangino had a pretty good track record.

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danmoore 2 years, 6 months ago

+1

IMO Mangino is still the best coach we've ever had.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 6 months ago

Agreed. But the jury is still out on Charlie. Let's see what he can do. He may end up being better than Mangino, Only time will tell.

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texashawk10 2 years, 6 months ago

Fielding Yost and Phog Allen say Mangino is NOT the best coach KU has ever had.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 6 months ago

kids have no appreciation for history these days. What are they teaching them in school anyway?

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Marc Frey 2 years, 6 months ago

Well it looks like HCCW has a few more Seniors with a year of eligibilty left that may be playing for us next year. So more to come for sure.

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Todd Hill 2 years, 6 months ago

I wonder where these Seniors are coming from . . . . Notre Dame?

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 6 months ago

For 5th year seniors, Notre Dame has 13 players eligible for 5th years – John Goodman (WR), Deion Walker (WR), Braxston Cave (OL), Lane Clelland (OL), Jake Golic (TE), Sean Cwynar (NT), Kapron Lewis-Moore (DE), Hafis Williams (DL), Brandon Newman (DL), Anthony McDonald (LB), David Posloszny (LB), Dan McCarthy (S), Jamoris Slaughter (S).

I'm guessing he wasn't talking to just Dayne on the recruiting trip to South Bend/AKA the ND Reunion Tour. He probably has a few solid commitments and a few possibles before he left.

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Ben Kane 2 years, 6 months ago

two firsts for me:

  1. i've never read this many football articles on this site this deep into basketball season.

  2. i've never paid this much attention to a recruiting class at KU.

Way to bring the excitement HCCW!

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danmoore 2 years, 6 months ago

According to Rivals, Penn State landed in the number 50 spot. Thought they would have done worse.

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Stan Unruh 2 years, 6 months ago

I was especially impressed when HCCW's opened the press conference today with compliments to others on the football staff who helped bring in this fine group of football players.

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Tom Pritchard 2 years, 6 months ago

Took a look at TG's recruiting class at Liberty U.. has to rank about 550...Looks like he could use the d.bag Berg...Link..http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID=10869&NewsID=8386

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Jayhawk838 2 years, 6 months ago

Anyone know who might be the other 5th year transfers? I know there was an article they mentioned some names but can't find it.

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Rolland Remmert 2 years, 6 months ago

Local sprots news this evening made a comment that names can't be disclosed yet (not sure what that date is for sure). Must be same rule that dosen't allow disclosure of a HS recruit during the recruiting process.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 6 months ago

If they haven't been released or graduated it is tampering.

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troutsee 2 years, 6 months ago

Leach was supposed to be the "catch" of the year. Check out Wash State recruiting class. Very similar to our's and with our transfers.....

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Steve Brown 2 years, 6 months ago

Football has potential to finanace the whole sports program, we are on the upswing and I haven't been this excited about ball since oh let's say Orange Bowl '07 and the Pepper Rogers era. Newbies, if you don't know Pepper Rogers, just look at his coaching staff.....'69 good stuff.

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GoHawkeroos 2 years, 6 months ago

Meet the latest 2012 recruit to sign: Tevin Shaw

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20120201/njsports0110/302010042/Piscataway-s-Shaw-headed-Kansas?odyssey=mod%257Cnewswell%257Ctext%257CSports%257Cs

3 star pro-style running back / linebacker. Good story. KU picks him up when Iowa ran out of scholarships.

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TopCityBob 2 years, 6 months ago

Apherse- Next time you might want to be a little more covert and use something like SafetyChick.

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HAWKTOPIA 2 years, 6 months ago

Yesterady the best rated DT in the U.S. committed to FSU. he was 6-4 and 310lbs. There are players on this list who can compete with him.

“ AVERAGE PEOPLE IN AN ABOVE AVERAGE SYSTEM WILL BEAT EXTRAORDINARY PEOPLE IN A BAD SYSTEM EVERY TIME.” Fujio Cho

"One palyer can make the difference for a team, Be that Player" Hawktopia

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