Thursday, December 13, 2012

Tyler Self making most of minutes

Kansas guard Tyler Self is congratulated by his teammates after a bucket against Colorado during the second half on Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Tyler Self is congratulated by his teammates after a bucket against Colorado during the second half on Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.



Kansas guard Tyler Self heads in for a bucket against Colorado defender Eli Stalzer during the second half on Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

As a member of the Red Team, also known as Kansas University’s basketball Scout Team, Tyler Self tries to bring his A game to practice every day.

“I guard Elijah (Johnson) quite a bit and Ben (McLemore) quite a bit. I like to say I guard them. Others may see it differently,” Self, a 6-foot-2 freshman walk-on guard out of Lawrence’s Free State High, said with a smile.

Self, fellow walk-ons Christian Garrett, Niko Roberts and Evan Manning, as well as red-shirt scholarship player Landen Lucas and others not in the current rotation, try to make pests of themselves while running the upcoming opponents’ defense and offense during high-octane drills and scrimmage situations.

It was Self’s offense that sent KU’s student section into a frenzy during Saturday’s KU-Colorado game.

Self, who entered with 1:44 left, put the finishing touches on a 90-54 victory by hitting a driving layup off the glass at :02.

“Looking at it from a history standpoint, it’s a big deal to me,” Self said of joining the fraternity of individuals who have scored points for KU’s tradition-rich program. “But in my eyes, it’s not anything really too special because I’m out here trying to get better, to make the team better.”

Self, who is 1-for-1 from the field while playing five minutes in two games, said he’d have been disappointed had he not converted the floater.

“I got a good pass from Niko and got a chance to go get a bucket with a couple seconds left and happened to do so,” Self said. “It turned up in transition. It was a 1-on-1 play. You’ve got to take advantage.”

He said he has enjoyed the opportunity to play for the Jayhawks, a team coached by his dad, Bill Self.

“I’ve seen a lot of games here,” said Tyler, a fixture in the Allen Fieldhouse stands the first nine years of his dad’s KU tenure. “It’s different being on the floor, though, than being in the stands.

“I love being a part of it. The hard work we put in every day is totally worth it to see it carry over on the floor.”

Tyler happens to be playing for one of the most demanding coaches in the country in Bill Self, who has directed KU to eight straight conference titles, one national title and one NCAA runner-up appearance.

“It’s fun, a unique experience to see him (dad) in his element, doing what he loves to do. His passion for the game comes through at practice, how much he loves what he does and wants to succeed doing so,” Tyler said.

“It’s all about mental toughness. Boot Camp, the practices are tough, but it’s really just a mental aspect. You have to play through it.”

Tyler said it has been an easy transition playing basketball for his dad.

“I like to think of it, and I think he does, too, that I’m just another guy out there trying to get better,” Tyler said.

Bill Self has said he’s been rejuvenated as a coach in getting to spend so much time with his son. But he does acknowledge that Tyler is just another player at practice and during games.

“I was as happy for Tyler (in scoring) as I would have been if it was Evan or Christian or Niko,” Self said.

“I think that if you look at Niko and Evan and Tyler ... they get it. They’ve been around it their whole life.”

Niko Roberts’ dad is KU assistant/former St. John’s head coach Norm Roberts; Evan Manning’s dad is Tulsa coach/former KU All-American and NBA standout Danny Manning.

“They’ve been raised not in the gym, but as far as seeing sides of their dads most people don’t see,” Bill Self said. “I think it’s neat for any of those (walk-on) kids: how you can go to a place where you know you will probably not play much at all if any, yet you can still put a handprint on what is going on. All four, they’ve done a great job, gotten better, primarily Christian and Niko because they’ve been here a couple years. Nobody in our locker room sees them differently. They all do the same things, sacrifice and all that stuff.”

Tyler, by the way, said he hasn’t decided if he wants to follow in dad’s footsteps and coach.

“The plan right now is (be a) business major,” Tyler said. “Hopefully I’ll finish strong in finals (this week). Right now I have no clue. I wouldn’t say I will be a coach. I could see it going either way. Right now I’m living day to day.”

KU vs. SDSU: San Diego State University announced Wednesday that it had agreed to a home-and-home series with KU. The first game will be played in Allen Fieldhouse on either Jan. 4 or 5, 2014. The series will skip a season before the Jayhawks return the game and play inside SDSU’s Viejas Arena on a yet-to-be-determined date in 2015-16. Details of the series were reported in the Journal-World, San Diego Union-Tribune and other outlets in November.

Bill Self in Minnesota: KU coach Self was in Apple Valley, Minn., Tuesday to attend a game of Tyus Jones, a 6-1 junior point guard from Apple Valley High. Jones had 36 points and seven assists in an 82-68 win over Minnetonka. Jones is ranked No. 3 nationally in the Class of 2014 by

Next game: KU will meet Belmont University at 6 p.m. Saturday in Allen Fieldhouse. Belmont (6-2) of the Ohio Valley Conference plays host to Middle Tennessee State tonight.


DCLawHawk 1 year, 4 months ago

There is a good article on arguing that Bill Self is the active coach with the best shot of surpassing Coach Consonants' career win total.


DanR 1 year, 4 months ago

It's Tharpe under the towel.

Kansas guard Tyler Self is congratulated by his teammates after a bucket against Colorado during the second half on Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Tyler Self is congratulated by his teammates after a bucket against Colorado during the second half on Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug


Tony Bandle 1 year, 4 months ago

Let's take a guess at who is under that towel.

1] The little red-haired girl from Texas.

2] Max Falkenstein.

3] Scott Pollard kneeling down.

4] Waldo.

5] Judge Crater

6] Cindy Self.

7] Norm Stewart.

8] One of the Kardashians

9] Jaybate.


JayHulk 1 year, 4 months ago



JayhawkRock78 1 year, 4 months ago

I loved watching Self make that shot at the end of the game. I even loved it more when the bench erupted. THAT tells you a LOT about this team!!!

The Jayhawk bball program is a gift that keeps on giving.

As Will Sonnet would say, "No brag,,,,just fact!"


wildjayhawk 1 year, 4 months ago

Looks like Jaybate has frequent and loose bowel movements of the mouth again.


jaybate 1 year, 4 months ago

If coaching Tyler recharges Self, what the hell! Suit his daughter up too!!


jaybate 1 year, 4 months ago

jayfucius say:

Serial Aliases that attack first, lose last.

Sound player in hand worth two with potential.

The higher a player's ceiling the more development required to touch it.

Just because phog in field house invisible not mean it ineffectual.

All great runs followed by some not so great, but all bad runs must be followed by good ones or PT disappear.

A gnat's ass seems large to trey shooter with a hot hand.

Getting a stop and making a basket on first possession, then playing them even the next 39:30 is still a win.

Making eye contact with cougars in the fourth row sure way to lower FT percentage.

Taunting opposing coaches surest way to experience cheap shot when least expected.

The shot clock is long and few offenses use all of it.

A layup with a free throw is a higher percentage shot than a trey.

Defend where they are strong. Attack where they are weak. And zone when all else fails.

Assistant coaches are brilliant until they become head coaches, then they need players.

Recruit players that can explode beyond their positions, not those that fizzle beyond them.

Impact the game, not one's self.

Play the players now that can win now and play the players later that can win later.

Running players now leads to lack of depth later.

Great coaches are often misunderstood by fans because they are great coaches.

Getting more than half the 50/50 balls wins 90% of games.

Protection is next to godliness, but winning the disruption stat is sacred.

Now, go forth and get better.


William Blake 1 year, 4 months ago

"“They’ve been raised not in the gym, but as far as seeing sides of their dads most people don’t see,” Bill Self said."

They get the magic dust that will one day empower them to coach.

Breath in all the magic dust, Tyler... Evan... Niko...


Steve Kubler 1 year, 4 months ago

Even with Danny's knees I would have to put my money on the Mannings if a coach & son tourney springs up. Nice idea JB, got my morning off with a smile.


jaybate 1 year, 4 months ago



Coaches burying the hatchet always good.

And win/win for both in recruiting.

Playing in LoCal raises KU brand recognition in the heart of the volleyball belt. (If only there were more footers playing v-ball!!).

Building up SDSU in UCLA's backyard gives UCLA another recruiting competitor.


Chris Shaw 1 year, 4 months ago

Is Tyler Self sporting a stache? At first glance it certainly looks like a stache. If so, he could possibly skip right to walk-on First Team All-American status with TJ Whatley.


Phil Leister 1 year, 4 months ago

Funny headline. Making the most of his 5 minutes.


bennybob 1 year, 4 months ago

Tyus Jones is not comming to Kansas, Self is wasting his time.


Eybea Opiner 1 year, 4 months ago

Jaybate, you need to treat that diarrhea your key board is suffering from.


Eliott Reeder 1 year, 4 months ago

LOL @ Sarah Jessica Parker syndrome... :)


jaybate 1 year, 4 months ago

"Thursday Donut Dunks"

• jSPN sports anchor Jock Small asks readers to cast eBallots for the best KU scout team ever. Small claims last season's scout team with Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor was the best, but Small admits to sports related dementia.

• Andrea Hudy said she will no longer train Bill Self, or his son Tyler, in forearm development. Hudy said, "There are limits to what scientific weight training techniques can accomplish. Both Bill and Tyler suffer from a rare congenital condition called 'Sarah Jessica Parker Forearm Syndrome' that makes them unable to acquire normal muscle mass there."

• Norm and Niko Roberts will become the first father and son to be inducted into the National Heavy Eyebrow Hall of Fame in Larned, KS. Speaking for both Roberts, Norm said, "Its a huge honor to join previous inductees Groucho Marx, Sean Young, Bob Keeshan, Larry Moore, and all men over 75."

• Cindy Self has skotched rumors of a "walk-on" coaches' wives program.

• Christian Garrett has announced that he will be working three of Wayne Simien's new boot camp retreats for Simien's new "Fundamentals for Fundamentalists." Boot camps will be held in Hell, California, Hell, Michigan, and Hell, Grand Cayman.

• Evan and Danny Manning are the early favorites to win the First Annual Coaches and Coaches' Sons Two-on-Two Invitational Tournament. Its a fund raiser for walk-on tuition for scout teamers everywhere.

• CBernie and Shay Zeng will play a series of one-on-one games at halftimes of conference games in AFH to raise money for Self's contract extension.

• Dick Vitale announced that for Lent he will give up over hyping John Calipari.

• Aridzona head coach Stumpy Miller announced he will wear a new line of Nike elevator sneakers called Air Shorties.

(Note: All fiction. No malice.)


odc213 1 year, 4 months ago

KU vs SDSU >> Code for Home and Home, unless the (ahem ahem) Carrier Classic calls. Then it's a 'home and carrier' agreement. We are taking the risk by not actually playing the game, so 'home and carrier' works fine. But truthfully, not thinking it's a great Classic... espn


RJ King 1 year, 4 months ago

"I like to say I guard them. Others may see it differently.”

Could Tyler possibly sound any more like his Dad??? I can even hear a slight Oklahoma twang. Like father, like son. What a compliment. Here's to rejuvenation!


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