Originally published August 24, 2012 at 01:49p.m., updated August 25, 2012 at 12:00a.m.

Weis: Defensive lineman Ty McKinney to report to campus Sept. 7


The inconsistent and uncertain saga surrounding Kansas University defensive lineman Ty McKinney received a little clarity Friday.

KU coach Charlie Weis announced, via a press release, that McKinney, a junior-college transfer from Trinity Valley Community College in Texas, finally would be allowed to finish his class requirements on Friday, Sept. 7, and then would report to Lawrence immediately.

“This still allows Ty to enroll this fall as a full-time student at KU,” Weis said. “Our academic support staff is working to create a schedule so that as soon as Ty arrives he can catch up academically.”

Weis said earlier this week that McKinney, a 6-foot-3, 310-pound junior, had completed all of the course work required for his junior-college degree but that the material had not yet been graded. According to the rules of his current school, McKinney is not allowed to take the final exam in his lone class until that course work is graded.

Weis said KU’s support staff had been working closely with the dean of McKinney’s school to help move the process along. He also said that getting McKinney to campus in time to perform academically was as important, at this point, as his performance on the football field. He reiterated that point in Friday’s press release.

“Once his academic situation is in order, he will get up to speed in football,” Weis said. “There is no acclimatization period that Ty must fulfill as far as practice is concerned.”

Obviously, with a Sept. 7 arrival, McKinney would miss KU’s first game — Sept. 1 vs. South Dakota State — and be in serious jeopardy of missing at least the first two. However, KU defensive line coach Buddy Wyatt said McKinney should have time to catch up.

“He’s played a lot of football so I think he’s probably a little further ahead than if he was a freshman coming in in this situation,” Wyatt said. “You don’t know. When he gets here, we’ll find out.”

The fact that KU has reshaped nearly its entire defensive line this offseason should benefit McKinney, Wyatt said.

“We’re counting on a lot of guys who weren’t here in the spring and weren’t here in the summer, so we’ve kept the scheme relatively simple so our guys can come here and execute,” he said. “We gotta wait until he gets here and see where he is and progress from there.”

In the meantime, Wyatt backed Weis’ earlier statement that the KU staff had done all they could to get McKinney to campus.

“(Recruiting coordinator) Rob Ianello and (associate athletic director for student support) Paul Buskirk have really done a wonderful job with Ty,” said Wyatt, who recruited McKinney last winter during the transition from Turner Gill to Weis. “I’ve just talked to him intermittently, just to encourage him to keep going and don’t give up. It seems like it’s been one thing after another with him, but he’s still been in pretty decent spirits.”

Linebacker leaves team

Weis also announced Friday that junior linebacker Jon Shelby had left the team for personal reasons.

Shelby, an offseason transfer who came to KU from Nassau Community College in New York, was listed on KU’s preseason depth chart as a one of two players vying for a second-string spot at outside linebacker.

“It is important at this time to protect Jon’s privacy,” Weis said. “We hope to have him back at KU sometime in the future.”

One-man band

KU junior Ron Doherty continues to look like a one-man band in the Jayhawks’ kicking department. Doherty, who entered preseason camp as the top place-kicker, punter and kickoff specialist, may carry all three duties into next week’s season opener.

“We’re fortunate to have him,” said special teams coordinator Clint Bowen of Doherty. “We’d like to limit some of his duties, but, right now, he continues to be the best at all three spots.”

Bowen said Doherty’s contributions to the team go beyond his ability to kick.

“Doherty has really matured and taken a leadership role amongst the special teams and embraced that he’s the guy,” Bowen said. “He just needs to keep focused, keep working and he’s got a chance to have a pretty special year.”

As for the guys behind him, although Bowen said none of them were ready to unseat Doherty in the starting role, he has been encouraged by the progress of reserves such as sophomore punter Sean Huddleston, sophomore kicker Nick Prolago and freshman kicker Austin Barone.

“A couple of those younger kids can hit the ball pretty well,” Bowen said. “So we are OK there. If something did happen to Doherty, we’re fine.”

‘Hawk Talk’ Monday

Monday night will mark the first “Hawk Talk with Charlie Weis” weekly radio show of the 2012 season.

Previously broadcast on Thursdays, the show has been moved up to Monday nights and can be heard throughout Kansas on the Jayhawk IMG Radio Network affiliates, including locally on KLWN 1320. The show will take place from 7-8 p.m. each Monday of game weeks, and will be aired live from Salty Iguana.

Benefit BBQ

KU coach Charlie Weis and various members of his coaching staff will be the featured guests at a preseason barbecue Thursday outside of Memorial Stadium.

All proceeds raised by the event, which will begin at 7 p.m. and will take place on the hill near the south end zone, will go toward Weis’ Hannah & Friends charity, which provides a positive living environment for people with special needs.

For more information or to purchase tickets ($150 apiece), contact Sharon at or via telephone at (574) 214-7959.


NotKansasUniversity 5 years, 10 months ago

There's more to the story than they're telling the public. If all we're waiting for is the coursework to be graded, there's no reason they can say definitively that it'll be completed September 7.

Matt Tait 5 years, 10 months ago

I see why you'd think that, but I really don't think there is.

Most likely, the KU folks and the dean of McKinney's school informed the professor to get to work on the grading and my guess is they now have scheduled him to take the final on the 7th.

Carter Patterson 5 years, 10 months ago

Matt, do you know what class it is that he's taking? For the life of me I cannot fathom why it would take this long. Its hard not to believe that the professor is being a horses tail.

Matt Tait 5 years, 10 months ago

Without knowing all of the details here, I think you're on to something. It's a shame, too. Sounds like McKinney worked his butt off and is being unfairly penalized...

Omari Miller 5 years, 10 months ago

According to Ty's Twitter account, he has complete the 5 or 6 modules required, but the professor has only graded 1 or 2.

B0B 5 years, 10 months ago

we heard a week or two ago that his work was done and all they had to do was grade it. when they do he can take a test and giddy on up here. now its going to take ANOTHER two weeks? how much work did he do this summer? its JUCO for Crist sake. it doesn't take a month to grade.

what do they have to gain by screwing a kid out of a month of the season? nothing.

sorry, i'm not buying it. there is more to this story.

Randy Bombardier 5 years, 10 months ago

Depends. Does the prof have tenure? If so, he can pretty much be a pain in the backside but it may have nothing to do with KU or his particular alma mater. He probably resents the "athletic types" interfering in his classroom.

Ben Kliewer 5 years, 10 months ago

Those lofty and highly regarded Junior College professors are all the same...

Randy Bombardier 5 years, 9 months ago

Well, since you put it that way, there's really no doubt that this is indeed a conspiracy.

wileykufan 5 years, 10 months ago

Based on what? What more could there be to the story? This is what they've been saying all along - this is the first time Weis has given a definitive date for his arrival.

Go back to Manhattan and worry about your own team.

Marcia Parsons 5 years, 10 months ago

"If the coursework is graded, not sure why they won't let him take the final sooner."

Unlike wilykufan I never thought you were a K-State fan, but it's hard to see why you don't understand what they're saying. The course work is NOT graded, but the school has apparently given the prof until Sept 7 to get it done by scheduling the final for that date. Edit: I apologize for shouting at everyone. All I did was copy and paste, and it came out BIG.

sportjunky 5 years, 10 months ago

I guess I assumed he/she is not a KU fan. Instead, the caps in his/her tag are NKU, so I assumed Northern Kentucky? A hilltopper, perhaps? Doesn't matter, though...

LAJayhawk 5 years, 10 months ago

When you use the pound sign it will cause the text to be large. (#)

KGphoto 5 years, 10 months ago

Disorganized schizophrenia > Trinity Valley CC

My eleven-year-old daughter could've had this wrapped up two weeks ago, and she forgets to tie her shoes.

ccarp 5 years, 10 months ago

I hope McKinney has been able to workout with his former team, coaches,and/or trainers. Hope he can get fit and contribute soon. We'll need him.

jgkojak 5 years, 10 months ago

Sounds like as a Junior, he'll be up to speed quickly - and given his weight (310) sounds like we can definitely use him!

Cody Riedy 5 years, 10 months ago

This story sounds weird because it doesn't conform to anything I know about college from my experience as a student and as a college instructor.

  1. Finals schedules are set with the rest of the semester course schedules - in other words, they are set before the semester even begins. A student might have to take a final at a different time than the schedule in some instances, but they have to take the final more or less at the same time. They can't take it weeks in advance or weeks later.
  2. There are deadlines for when an instructor must submit grades for a given semester. In my experience, instructors get less than a week after the last day of finals to finalize and submit all grades.
  3. These deadlines are in place because the grade a student gets in a particular class can impact the student's enrollment in the subsequent semester and can even potentially affect financial aid.
  4. This was a summer course - usually 4-8 weeks in length - and the teacher needs what, 3 weeks, to grade the students' work?

None of this makes sense and I really hope that we don't immediately run into academic eligibility issues. All I know is regular students don't get to enroll and start classes three weeks into the semester.

Kman_blue 5 years, 10 months ago

I think I figured out your mistake here. We're talking about junior college here, not real college like you're talking about.

I kid! I kid!

jhox 5 years, 10 months ago

The professor is probably a TCU grad hoping to delay it long enough to limit his chances of contributing against them.

Steven Mathew 5 years, 10 months ago

I bet he doesn't start until week 5 after the bye week

gw1044 5 years, 10 months ago

According to his twitter account, it appears that he is taking a distance education course at LSU. Hence, his suggestion, "Never take a distance learning class from LSU #theytakeforever". just my guess.

Richard Wade 5 years, 10 months ago

The Texas Success Initiative requires pretesting (for course placement) and post testing (for graduation) Texas community colleges students. Trinity Valley doesn't allow students to take the TSI post test until all classes are final and they can't graduate until they take the post test. Obviously, a class can't be finalized until the instructor has graded the students work and posted a grade. From experience, it is not uncommon at all for instructors to drag their feet on grading student work.

FTC_Jayhawk 5 years, 10 months ago

Many of the posters here are awfully quick to judge this school and the course instructor. Based on what I have read here, it seems at least as likely that Mr. McKinney signed up for a course that could not be finished on time and the news bias implies that the school is to blame. Notice that nobody but the posters here (nobody in the know) are outraged about the process, just frustrated. I wouldn't be surprised if September 7 represents an early date for the grade in this class.

I hope he is staying in shape.

Jason Spangler 5 years, 10 months ago

Matt, no offense but why do you keep talking about this guy? If he was any good he would have been recruited by programs that matter. don't get me wrong.. I hope he succeeds here and all but enough's enough. Is he stupid or lazy? Something is wrong

John Myers 5 years, 10 months ago

Because he's a big DL with 2 years experience, which our team can definitely use, and many of us want to get all the help we can for this coming year.

What, are you stupid?

Micky Baker 5 years, 10 months ago

Why does it take this long to grade anything? That kid is going to be set back a year and he probably will have to red shirt. Does he still get two years of eligibility if that occurs? That professor that didn't grade his work needs to be named, canned, and prevented from setting foot on another campus.

Micky Baker 5 years, 10 months ago

From my experience, the guideline for grades to be posted after course work in distance learning and online is 3 days at the end of the quarter or session. The professor is screwing up. It sounds like the professor has a chip on his shoulder and is taking out on the wrong people.

ParisHawk 5 years, 10 months ago

Why is it so hard to accept that we just don't know what the problem is?

Why do we have to either speculate or blame based on assumptions?

One or more of you may be absolutely right, OR it may be something else entirely.

Suppose the instructor, or a loved one, has been diagnosed with a fatal illness and is off getting emergency treatment in another state: would you be calling them names?

We don't know a lot of things because some folks with integrity respect other people's privacy. Let's not complain about that while expressing ourselves under cover of anonymity!

Micky Baker 5 years, 10 months ago

Suppose the professor does have a fatal illness. Get another one to grade the damn test LSU! It isn't a small town where there is only one teacher for every subject!

Ron Prichard 5 years, 10 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. I think it will depend on how well the others do in the first two games. If he can contribute even starting in game 3 or 4, I think Weis will use him now. I really think Weis wants to upgrade the talent now as much as he can and leave future years to recruiting. I think Weis believes he can bring in much better talent when he has a couple years to go after kids, so I think whatever short term help he can get now he is going to use. Just my two cents.

Jim Stauffer 5 years, 10 months ago

Could be a blessing in disguise. We have an injury in week 4 and McKinney is ready to take his place in week 5. Never know how these things actually work out.

Cameron Cederlind 5 years, 10 months ago

"injury in week 4" I don't like your blessings

Doug Cramer 5 years, 10 months ago

April - that's pretty much what I was gonna say. May as well red shirt him at this point.

Mark Lindrud 5 years, 10 months ago

Matt, what are the. Odds we redshirt him? He's behind the learning curve and it seems we created a two man rotation. We still get him for two years and our depth continues to grow for the future.

vd 5 years, 10 months ago

Ty couldn't get the work done, so the Prof gave him extra time. The Prof shouldn't have given him a break and flunked him, so Ty wouldn't graduate and be able to play.

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