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Friday, August 17, 2012

Self: Don’t count on Olympics call

Kansas fan Jennifer Coughenour snaps a quick photo with KU men's basketball coach Bill Self on Friday before the KickOff at Coringth Square in Prairie Village for the KU football season.

Kansas fan Jennifer Coughenour snaps a quick photo with KU men's basketball coach Bill Self on Friday before the KickOff at Coringth Square in Prairie Village for the KU football season.

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— Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self was asked Friday if he’d be interested in being the coach for the 2016 United States Olympic men’s basketball team.

“Yeah. They’re not going to call, though,” Self said. “But I think there’s a guy named Popovich (Gregg, San Antonio Spurs coach) and a guy named Rivers (Doc, Boston Celtics coach) and some guys like that that probably have a better relationship with Dream Team-type players than what I do.”

Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski led the U.S. men’s basketball team to gold during the last two Summer Olympics, but he has decided not to return in 2016.

“It’s pretty flattering,” Self said of his name being mentioned, “but I really don’t anticipate getting a phone call.”

McLemore update: Self said that he didn’t believe freshman guard Ben McLemore would need surgery for his hip flexor injury.

“No, no, no. We don’t think that at all,” Self said.

McLemore was injured during KU’s practice on Aug. 4.

“He’s hurt. He couldn’t play now,” Self said. “We’ll get him off until school starts.”

European highlight: Self was asked Friday if he brought anything back with him from KU’s weeklong exhibition trip to Europe.

“I brought back knowledge. I couldn’t afford to bring anything else back with me,” Self said with a smile. “But I brought back knowledge and a couple pairs of shoes. But it was a good trip. A lot of churches, a lot of castles, a lot of palaces, a lot of shopping, a lot of mountains.”

Self later said the coolest part of the trip for him was visiting Switzerland.

“I didn’t know there could be that much natural beauty in one place without it being somewhat manufactured,” Self said. “That was incredible to me.

“ ... If I went back again, I think I could just take the gondola up to the top of the mountain, go on a boat ride and be very content.”

Self on team: Self ended his five-minute speech to the KU fans at Friday’s rally by talking about the players on this year’s team.

“We’ve got a long ways to go, but I am excited about it,” Self said. “They’re talented, they’re fun, they’re athletic, and I really believe this: If we all stick together and everybody’s on the same page, we’re going to shock a lot of people come March.”

Keating a candidate for Fordham A.D.: KU special assistant to the athletic director Larry Keating is one of eight candidates for the Fordham athletic director position, the New York Post is reporting.

Keating has previous ties to Fordham’s league — the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference — as he served as assistant commissioner for basketball and football operations from 2001-03.

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Mr_C 1 year, 11 months ago

No coach in the country I'd rather have crafting this talented group... can't wait to watch this season unfold, and very excited for this group's prospects come March.

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kusayzone 1 year, 11 months ago

HCBS is the mastermind of getting the most out of his players....He let them all taste the playing water, so the players could see the difference between what is between their ears and what they put on the court. Don't worry fans, the best is yet to come.....

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

"...we’re going to shock a lot of people come March.” --Bill Self

Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy!

Self thinks he's got the pieces.

Watch out, Cal!!!!!

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Ted Hume 1 year, 11 months ago

yea- that is a surprising quote for the preseason; sure, it's part of the whole "build up and tear down" psychological process Self employs for master motivational effect, but it still jumps out as convincingly genuine and pretty bold, nevertheless!

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theend 1 year, 11 months ago

Shut up dork. Take you liberal lies somewhere else. Yes.....and I guess you're such a "champion" of the planet??? Hmmmmmmm...and yet you have a computer and are using evil electricity???? What a capitalist pig you are. Evil capitalist here, folks. How dare you!!!! Get off this board, leftist.

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 1 year, 11 months ago

Liberals founded Kansas. Show some respect to our roots.

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Dan Pawlowski 1 year, 11 months ago

You and theend are both narrow minded wonks. The minute somebody expresses any concern for the earth, you know the thing we count on to sustain us , you have to put them in a box and label them so you can either deride them or help your small minds understand the world.

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Booyaa 1 year, 11 months ago

Boulder ...so caring and concerned about the earth but people not so much ...

They have so many building restriction there that the middle class cannot afford to live there; the so called worker bees that support their life style have to live outside Boulder and commute in. There are people from Boulder who go to Denver to rent as the rentals in Boulder are so scarce and expensive.....the Denver Post had an article just last week about the scarcity of rentals around U of Colorado and the increase in rentals.

But hey all those who live in Boulder can afford to preach to the rest of about saving the earth....we are just too narrow minded to understand and beside we are too busy trying to find a reasonable place to live.

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shredks 1 year, 11 months ago

Definitely a challenge to find a sustainable balance between consuming the earth's resources (land, air, water, nature's ability to recycle our waste, etc.) while leaving enough for the rest of nature to be able to sustain itself. So far unfortunately the evidence points to us consuming and disposing of much more than the earth can handle indefinitely. It comes down to consumption and population. We either need to cut back on our consumption (probably through gains in efficiency and outright reductions in consumption), reduce population (which is best done through improving people's health, education, dignity, and opportunities for more fullfilling, productive lives) or both.

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Booyaa 1 year, 11 months ago

Okay, but why force the consuming outside of Boulder to other communities so that Boulder feels so good about themselves ..because that is what they are doing.

Those inside Boulder are only forcing consumption along their borders...to Broomfield, Westminster, etc so everyone in Boulder can feel good that they are so respectful of nature.....while they force the real issues on other communities.

And reducing population, not sure you defined this...how can you reduce the population when you improvetheir health?

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shredks 1 year, 11 months ago

I agree, and it shows the problems when efforts aren't coordinated and not everyone is on the same page.

As for reducing population, as I understand it, most of the growth is coming from poorer countries where healthcare, education, opportunities, respect for women, etc. are poor. Most people don't want tons of kids. But, if women don't have the ability to decide for themselves when they want to get pregnant, if people fear that without kids they won't have anyone to provide for them when they're no longer able to provide for themselves, if they fear some of their kids are going to die before they do, if they don't have opportunities for education and for productive, fulfilling, lives, people in those conditions tend to have more children than they otherwise would. Kids are wonderful, don't get me wrong. But, they are a lot of work and aren't cheap. If you have more security in your own health and safety, your children's health safety, the ability to provide for yourself in old age, and respect women's rights to decide for themselves how many children they want to have, people actually choose to have fewer children.

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shredks 1 year, 11 months ago

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/10/opinion/la-ed-population-contraception-20120810

LA Times: Overpopulation is Everyone's Problem

According to the Worldwatch Institute, 1 in 5 births results from an unwanted pregnancy. If just those pregnancies were prevented, the birthrate would fall below replacement level.

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

Dear BottomfeedingWhileCallingYourselfTheonlythingthatexceedsyourbad,

Let's do some analysis of your post to shredks, for some post doc credit over at the Department of English, shall we?

"Shutup" is not in the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary, as spelled, but that's okay, because through the miracle of the internet I can quickly resort to the Urban Dictionary on a fishing expedition for definition.

According to the UD, "shutup" is rich in subtleties of usage including an aspect relating to "mrod," which is rather to coarse to explore here, but aside from the nuances, it means pretty much the same in the UD, as it does in the MWD. It means stop talking, or in this case, stop typing. :-)

Next, let us explore your use of "hippie" by once again resorting to the Urban Dictionary. Why by-pass Merriam-Webster and leap straight to the UD? Well, MW probably gives a pretty conventional take on the word and based on years of familiarity with this conventional usage of the word, especially as abused among "crackuhs," the meaning not only refers to a counter culture group of folks in the sixties, but also is an insult of any persons for being peace-loving liberals and non conformists and non-reactionaries, as well as also being a smearing, ad hominem attack implying (almost always inaccurately) that someone uses illegal drugs like pot and acid (LSD).

Are you with me so far you gnat-brained little fleck of human excreta? Well, catch up as best you can, because time is of the essence and I have to get on with it.

So: in the UD, which I believe does a great service to the English language, "hippie" has meaning that is not only vastly richer and more complicated than that indicated in MWD, or even in the often exhaustive OED, but also has a meaning that is rather kinder and frankly not an insult at all.

The UD indicates the etymology of "hippie" pre-dates the flower children years most think it tracks to. Instead, it indicates its origins date to urbanites of the 1950s, in particular to African Americans describing Caucasian Americans of the time that were considered okay to pass through an African American neighborhood, because they were peace loving, drug taking, persons that meant no one any harm and so could be trusted on one's turf.

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

The UD also indicates that anyone can be considered a hippie, not just the unwashed, tie-dyed, long haired stereo type of a hippie from the 1960s. It refers to anyone with a value system rooted in liberal beliefs, tolerance, and peacefulness, and so it is not necessarily an epithet at all, though it may at times suggest naivety about how harsh the world is, from the point of view of an African American.

All of which brings me to find your "shutup hippie" assertion cryptic and puzzling.

Shutup is clearly a negative comment and the spelling implies a correct Urban Dictionary spelling of the term.

But hippie is used in a strikingly Caucasian American, even "crackuh" sense of an insult, rather than in the neutral, or even benign sense of the word as used by some African Americans I have heard use it, and as the UD indicates some use it.

So: I find both a failure to communicate coherently on your part, plus the implication of a crackuh pretending unpersuasively to the voice of an African American.

Or alternatively, an extremely rare case in my experience anyway of an African American that cannot, while using familiar street slang, string a coherent sentence together, even when it involves only 2-3 words, depending on how you come down on the spelling of "shut up." African American slang may be intentionally obscure for outsiders, but it seems always intelligent, snappy and coherent, when one learns the code words and syntax. Again, your assertion seems none of these things.

So: you appear a fool in both the MWD and the UD definitions of the word fool. And a fool, according to the UD thesaurus, has the following synonyms: idiot, stupid, moron, retard, dumbass, loser, dumb, tool, jerk, jackass, foolish, dork, imbecile, wanker, trick, and retarded, plus others probably not suited to this particular reader base.

And to these I might add fop, arsehat, bee-bee brained nitwit, nano-brain, brain dead manatee, and the wildly under used bottom-feeding reactionary with shrunken genitalia. :-)

Sorry, you're not quite ready for credit toward your post doc, so...

ship-your-mouth way-down-south and KMA good-bye. :-)

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studio 1 year, 11 months ago

Thanks Jaybate for taking the time to pour quenching words over insidiary vitriol as a true Jayhawk, lover of all things KU, in eloquently defining the label of the historic "hip". Communication at this level is what forges champions out of children, relevant to the success of any athletic program, and the tangible difference in shaping a civilized humankind. RCJH

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 1 year, 11 months ago

Well said, bro. Ignore these morons who can't appreciate a little concern for our ecosystem.

As for liberals...Kansas was FOUNDED by Northeastern liberals with social justice in mind. Anyone else realize why our main drag is MASSACHUSETTS street?

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Scott MacWilliams 1 year, 11 months ago

Hey Shred, I could add Cascade Head on the Oregon coast, Crater Lake, and the Kenai Peninsula in Alaska to places that Bill Self could appreciate if he gets a chance...
But I agree that is an odd comment for someone who has done as much traveling as HCBS. Does he end up just seeing airports and the shortest distance to recruiting prospects ALL the time?? How can you see so much of the country/world and not be in awe of it's natural beauty?
Oh well, he's got work to do.
Rock Chalk, Etc.

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Tuskin 1 year, 11 months ago

I agree with GB. Self's quote sounded a little funny to my ears, too. He has spent time in Hawaii (and presumably Alaska while recruiting Chalmers), so he's not new to natural beauty. I don't think he's new to appreciating it, either. He just really liked Switzerland.

An architecture professor once told my class that there is no natural place that couldn't be improved by human design. I wonder where he was from.

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dynamitehawk 1 year, 11 months ago

I had a connecting flight in Switzerland. My wife and I could not get over how beautiful and clean it looked. Keep in mind that's a native Coloradoan's perspective.

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shredks 1 year, 11 months ago

That is a scary statement from your architecture professor. Improved for whom? Certainly not the species native to such a place, which have evolved over eons to be perfectly adapted to it. That's the lack of a seemingly vital appreciation I'm talking about from people I'd really expect would (should?) have a better understanding.

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

To everyone, listen up, Self is a maniac about basketball. He has a work ethic second to none about the game. He is a people person and people persons are rarely place persons. If you want a pithy and insightful discussion of place, email the flipping geography department and give Bill a break here. He can probably remember 95 percent of the high school gymnasiums in the USA and which player played there, and which prospect is due to play their sometime the next three years. The guy is a walking encyclopedia of basketball knowledge and how-to, and is probably at times single-minded in his pursuit of excellence in the game, and I for one have met doctors and hard scientists equally fanatical in their committment to their professions that were even less articulate about the non-formal beauty of nature than Self. Talk to a surgeon about Mont Blanc the day before, or the day after 8-12 hours of cutting and see how much waxing beatific you get about nature. Self has to work at having fun outside basketball. He has to schedule not shaving two weeks each summer to get out of the straight jacket of competition. Worldly? Yes. Well travelled? Yes. But the man's brain, when travelling with his team to play games of any kind, is saturated with basketball, no matter how much he tries to tell everyone to take it easy and forget defense.

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

What is good enough for the Rockefellers is good enough for me.

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leonard 1 year, 11 months ago

KU is rife with legacies...and it's good to see a couple of the Tan Man's progeny psychoanalyzing Coach Self's appreciation of nature.

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greg robinson 1 year, 11 months ago

Reading way too much into his comment shredks. Maybe he just meant it was so beautiful it didn't seem real. I've felt the same way myself while be holding natures wonders. Thanks for the walk down memory lane with the Tan Man reference leonard. KU 78 grad.

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theend 1 year, 11 months ago

No....Shredks is one of those angry and bitter liberals that created the myth of global warming to destroy capitalism. He's just venting his hate.

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Dan Pawlowski 1 year, 11 months ago

Myth. LOL . I guess its too complicated an issue for you to wrap you mind around.

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Michael Luby 1 year, 11 months ago

Hey dude, Im a huge believer in what you are saying. But, this is a KU basketball blog. Lets keep the environment and politics talk for other places, yah?

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RJ King 1 year, 11 months ago

I agree. But shredks is just defending himself against theend who initiated the political references, venting, and hate.

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RJ King 1 year, 11 months ago

angry and bitter???? talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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SaltLakeHawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Ok, I'll bite.

theend, you probalby also think the female org*sm is a "myth"

When reality makes you feel bad, just bury your head in the sand and paint things as "myths"

Ego intact. Nicely done.

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 1 year, 11 months ago

myth? yeah....thousands or climate scientists worldwide are just making things up! moron...

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Ted Hume 1 year, 11 months ago

I would tend to think that theend is simply some hyper-ironinc poster trying to invent some absurd toothless hillbilly mock-persona with a 16-guague shouting for folks to git off his prop'ty- for ridiculous effect- but we all have a sinking feeling that he's a real person. a real, really pathetic, very sad, outrageously and profoundly IQ-challenged flesh and blood person. kind of makes you ashamed for the species sometimes...

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fearthephog512 1 year, 11 months ago

Agreed moorobs. It's also possible that he simply misspoke or didn't articulate as he intended ... we're all human, after all. In any case, it's great to see KU Nation so pumped up in August. Rock Chalk!

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Alohahawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Isn't Late Night in the Phog on Oct. 15th, a Monday? Which would make it 58 days away, and counting.

Almost two monthes for McLemore to recover from his injury. Or a lot of Jayhawk fans will be "Groin Groaning." Try saying that five times real fast - somewhat of a tongue twister.

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phogphanatic89 1 year, 11 months ago

Late Night will be on Friday the 12th this year. The night before the home game against OSU. Looking forward to both.

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Alohahawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Mahalo for the correction, phogphanatic89. I didn't mean to give false info, and appreciate being corrected if I'm wrong. So it's 55 days and counting. Still time enough for McLemore to get healthy, I hope. I'm sure we're all excited to see Ben at full strength.

And I, too, am looking forward to see what Weis has accomplished with the KU football team.

Two almost new looks for both teams this coming fall and winter. RCJHKU!!

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

Not sure what politics have to do with things here, but unlike most here I welcome exercise of political speech. Even that roasting my point of view.

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RJ King 1 year, 11 months ago

Agree. However, exercising political speech through articulate debate is not to be expected from posters whose primary tools are juvenile and mean-spirited name calling ("dork," "liberal," "liar," "capitalist pig," "hippie," "evil capitalist," "leftist"...) and clever phrases like, "shut up."

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theend 1 year, 11 months ago

Oops.....you forgot all the insults by your liberal buddy boulderhawk. Funny how that works. Run along now, comrade.....go incite the masses.

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buffhawk 1 year, 11 months ago

One quick correction is that fordham is in the atlantic 10, no the metro atlantic athletic conference.

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mikehawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Poor Bill. Says one comment with no political intent, and it turns into a bad day on the blogs for those of us who love to talk KU basketball and KU sports. Hey, he mentioned churches and cathedrals, so why don't you get politics AND religion out of your systems while you are at it. Then maybe we can get back to what brings most of us here and avoid what many of us art trying to escape from...even if only for a few moments. Please, lay down your political weapons and let's talk basketball.

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kennethst 1 year, 11 months ago

And this is a KU basketball board.....so why don't you shut up about it? Take your global warming lies somwhere else....I'm sure there are plenty of communist chat rooms. Go to one, comrade.

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kennethst 1 year, 11 months ago

If you ever want to see environmental whackos like shredks and Boulderhawk start stuttering and foam at the mouth......just ask them to explain why the earth has warmed and cooled thousands of times in its history.......way before evil capitalism and industrialization. They can't....and it's hilarious to see their rage!

shredks...I have no idea why you decided to bring this %^$# on this board.....especially your trashing Coach Self. You have no idea what he meant by his comments.Run along now,comrade....go save the planet.

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kennethst 1 year, 11 months ago

100% agree with you!! Well said. I'm not going to talk politics either. I'm done. But I also don't let lies go unchallenged! Good post, Calihawk. I'm looking forward to another great year for KU!!

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shredks 1 year, 11 months ago

The earth has always warmed and cooled due to changes in the sun's radiaiton, earth's reflectivity and greenhouse gasses. But, the first two factors have actually been contributing to cooling for quite some time. Yet, the earth is getting hotter at an alarming (unprecidented?) pace. The evidence points to spiking levels of greenhouse gasses from human activity as the cause.

I'd love for that conclusion to be wrong. But, there's no such thing as perfect knowledge, and inaction and ignoring our best understanding of the evidence while continuing to urgently investigate seems to me to be irresponsible.

Name calling is also counterproductive.

Rock Chalk!

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kennethst 1 year, 11 months ago

Shredks-Fair enough. At least we agree on KU!!

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dynamitehawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Is it ugly of me to say that Greenland can't melt fast enough, because it will hopefully destroy (Not the nature-y part or the nice people, especially any Jayhawks) New England?

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dynamitehawk 1 year, 11 months ago

Wait!!!!! I have an idea! Tyshawn could build a yacht for all the animals, nice people and Jayhawks when Greenland melts. He will bring two of each species in order to ensure survival. I can't believe no one has thought of this before.

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Robin Smith 1 year, 11 months ago

jeez, this comment thread is awful.

way to hijack things, ideologues.

I'd love to see Self on Pop and Rivers' staff for 2016.

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Jack Wilson 1 year, 11 months ago

Makes me long for a Milton Doyle thread ....

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Jack Wilson 1 year, 11 months ago

Don't know how many missed Jesse's Q and A on Aug. 15 after the Europe trip. I just saw it yesterday. The link is not on the Men's Basketball page, but was on the main sports page.

http://www2.kusports.com/chats/2012/aug/15/jesse-newell/

Excellent stuff if you want global war ... er, KU basketball info during a rather warm August.

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

Self can afford to let the game come to him. He will be an assistant first in the next Olies, maybe two, then he may get the call.

His future in the L is more interesting spec.

Self would quickly hire LB and Manning as his assistants. Cred with the pros would be instantaneous. THEN Self would have to learn not to ride the guys so much and emphasize the strategy of 70 point take what they give adapted to 90-100 point take what they give us. It would be the same as Phil and Tex getting first the Bulls and then the Lakers to focus on the strategic advantages of the triangle. Playing it any way they want in the pros, I.e., forcing the opponent to choose the tempo and beating them at their own game, would completely confuse the hide bound NBA think for at least two seasons, regardless of what sets Self decided to actually use.

Self's biggest adjustment, though, would be on defense, where it would take him awhile to deal with all the defensive scheming that goes on during the play offs. The NBA plays way more sophisticated defenses tha many recognize.

But we've got Bill for awhile, and no one else does, and that's what counts.

Go, Bill, go!!!!

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jaybate 1 year, 11 months ago

ralster,

You and I will have to work really, really hard to generate the best karma we can, so Bill feels so good he can't leave.

Rock Chalk!

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BoscheJayhawk 1 year, 11 months ago

I've travelled to many different countries around the world in all the continents except Australia. I've seen many men made and God's made wonders. I find natural beauty wherever I go, and believe me I had the same reaction as Bill when I visited Swtzerland. Give him a break!

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HawkKlaw 1 year, 11 months ago

Really, guys? A global warming debate? SWEET BRO. Self's point is that most locations have too many buildings and highways to really appreciate the natural (non-manufactured) beauty. He wasn't saying that he generally doesn't appreciate nature or that only manufactured things are beautiful. Whichever one of you drew that conclusion has your head way too far up your own... In fact, since he went out of his way to mention how beautiful it was, it appears that he was saying the exact opposite of that. Derpy derp.

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Michael Auchard 1 year, 11 months ago

Having been a couple places around the planet, if Bill likes Europe he needs to see Costa Rica. By far the best place I've been to as far as natural beauty. Cloud forests, jungles, volcanoes, two distinct types of coast. More biodiversity there than you can shake stick at. Such a cool destination, and not "ruined" too much yet.

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johnsont1 1 year, 11 months ago

HCBS: until you go back to Europe, check out Vail, Colorado: "little Switzerland in the Rockies"

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