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Monday, April 23, 2012

Lawrence, KU to rename two streets after Don Fambrough on Saturday

Former Kansas University football player and coach Don Fambrough delivers a pep talk prior to the 2004 Kansas-Missouri game in this file photo.

Former Kansas University football player and coach Don Fambrough delivers a pep talk prior to the 2004 Kansas-Missouri game in this file photo.

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The City of Lawrence and Kansas University will rename stretches of two streets after former KU football coach and player Don Fambrough at a ceremony before the spring football game Saturday.

The ceremony, which will include KU officials, Lawrence city commissioner Hugh Carter and Fambrough’s son Preston, will begin at 11:15 a.m. at the current intersection of 11th and Maine Streets.

"Don Fambrough was an icon — not just on the KU campus, but across the state of Kansas," KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger said. "He wore his passion for KU on his sleeve, and every day he proudly demonstrated his love for Kansas football and Kansas athletics. He loved his players, and they played their hearts out for him."

In January, the Lawrence City Commission voted to rename a stretch of 11th Street "Fambrough Drive" — the section of the road between Mississippi Street and Missouri Street. KU also will rename the stretch of Maine Street behind the Memorial Stadium press box "Fambrough Way."

Fambrough passed away in September at the age of 88. He led KU football for eight seasons in two different stints.

Comments

HawkitToEm 7 years, 5 months ago

I like the 11th street choice because it runs along the stadium. also, fewer people had to change their address. also, missouri? what's a missouri?

Dirk Medema 7 years, 5 months ago

Interesting that it ends at Missouri street. Too bad it didn't just turn the corner to the stadium. You know Fam wasn't really interested in getting to missouri.

741hawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Agree. City officials are cowards. The ONLY way to appropriately honor Coach Fam is to re-name Missouri St.

Displayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Just curious, how and why did Larrytown ever name a street after Missouri in the first place??? I get the states and all that, but you would think somebody would've said "Whoa"! (Quoting Coach Fam.) About time they honored Coach Fambrough for everything he did for KU! RIP Coach! RCJH

Displayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Actually, I didn't quote Coach Fam directly. I removed the expletive he would have added!

TxJyHwk 7 years, 5 months ago

The streets were named for the states in order of admittance to the US.

JayhawkFan1985 7 years, 5 months ago

The city had a street naming plan. All the N-S streets are named after states. They are in order from east to west that they entered the union. Since Lawrence was founded by people from Massachusetts, our Main Street is Massachusetts. Iowa, a much newer street, is way to the west. Somewhere along the way, they stopped following the plan and thus we lack some of the newer states.

Interestingly, the E-W streets are numbers. I think it is odd that west of Iowa they have abandoned this for Bob Billings Drive (formerly 15th) and Clinton Parkway (presumably 23rd at onetime but that predates my arrival). Why not rename 6th after the Oregon Trail since it once was the Oregon Trail...

packywacky88 7 years, 5 months ago

I guess the State of Misery means nothing to us anymore, except for the ol' burning the place down thing.

John Myers 7 years, 5 months ago

I thought that about Missouri St at first. But then, if you think about it, would he have really wanted his name on something that used to be called Missouri?

Jason Montgomery 7 years, 5 months ago

Why does KU's most successful coach not have a street named for him?? Mangino needs an eight lane turnpike.

amatxjayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

How about renaming Missouri St. Quantrill? If not a hero then why not a villain? Anything to get it off the Lawrence landscape.

JayhawkFan1985 7 years, 5 months ago

Are you really suggesting that Lawrence rename a street after a person who once burned the city down and murdered many many people in town in cold blood?

Sam Constance 7 years, 5 months ago

How about we stop acting like children and leave Missouri Street alone?

Missouri Street was so named because when the streets were named, the states of the union were the basis for that naming scheme, in the same order, from East to West, that they joined the Union. It had nothing to do with any college rivalry, and it should remain that way.

I'm all for childish sports-rivalry fun... within reason. Taking down the Kentucky street signs after losing to UK in the national championship--that's funny. It's quirky, expresses an opinion without any permanent damage, and isn't as crazy as completely renaming the street to something else.

I'm all for honoring Coach Fam, but it seems like there are better ways than renaming a piece of functional infrastructure.

Swamphawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Not sure where the myth came to be that the Lawrence streets were named as the states admitted from east to west. There are a few missing and I, for one, wouldn't mind Missouri being one of them. Lawrence streets west to east, then states admitted (for comparison) 1. Delaware, Delaware 2. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania 3. New Jersey, NJ 4. New York, Georgia 5. Connecticut, Conn. 6. Rhode Island, Mass. 7. New Hampshire, Maryland 8. Massachusetts, South Carolina 9. Vermont, New Hampshire 10. Kentucky, Virginia 11. Tennessee, New York 12. Ohio, North Carolina 13. Louisiana, Rhode Island 14. Indiana, Vermont 15. Mississippi, Kentucky 16. Illinois, Tennessee 17. Alabama, Ohio 18. Maine, Kentucky 19. Missouri, Louisiana

And so on. Missouri shouldn't have gotten a street to begin with, let alone one that darn near leads to the stadium.

Sam Constance 7 years, 5 months ago

That "myth" apparently is a less-complicated version of the actual account:

[From http://lawrenceks.org/about_us]


The Original Naming of the Streets

Massachusetts Street was designated the "main" street because Lawrence's founders were from Massachusetts.

Lawrence's Herald of Freedom newspaper, Jan. 27, 1855, told of the street names from Sec. of the New England Emigrant Aid, Dr.Thomas Webb, and his statement:

    "the streets, thirty-two in number running north and south are named after the several states of the Union. Thirteen of the streets in the eastern part of the city are named after the thirteen original States. The balance of the streets west are named after the remaining nineteen States, in order in which they were admitted into the Union."

So, regardless of the reason, the fact remains that Missouri IS one of the states after which the original city planners named one of the streets. Changing it due to a college rivalry is childish.

Swamphawk 7 years, 5 months ago

How convenient to leave out the next line which goes to show the accuracy of the statement. "However, Carolina Street near Lawrence High School was added much later and Georgia never added." Not to mention that the list I showed clearly shows his quote is wrong.

Secondly, if you look at the town map on the link you provided there is no Missouri Street.

Third, he made that quote in 1855, before the civil war, bloody kansas, Quantrill's raid, or the University of Kansas. I hardly think he had a healthy dose of hatred for that state as of yet. If he was quoted after the civil war, he may have sang a different tune.

Also, there are precisely two lots with an address on the street being changed. Neither of them have houses. I'm sure the post office is going to be really confused by this "childish" change.

Vince Brown 7 years, 5 months ago

I think you're missing the point. From WWII until the day he died, Coach Fam was more Jayhawk than alot of KU grads walking around today. Sixty plus years of support and loyalty warrant some major rememberance dedicated to this man.

kureader 7 years, 5 months ago

You're either a troll or an idiot. There are hundreds of men who played for Coach Fambrough who'd like to meet you.

ku_foaf 7 years, 4 months ago

While I enjoyed Fam's personality and his speeches, and I know his players liked him, the fact remains he got us in some pretty bad NCAA trouble and was not that successful as a coach. I was a student during his 2nd stint. I wouldn't word it like Solomon, but it seems he is remembered more for being the man everyone liked and the huge KU supporter that he was rather than his actual accomplishments.

Dale Stringer 7 years, 5 months ago

From now when I see Missouri St, I will make myself think of the Missouri State Bears down in Springfield. At least they've had a basketball team (womens) that has made it to the Final Four twice.

Tony Bandle 7 years, 5 months ago

I propose a simple change....

....re-sign all the street signs that are spelled Missouri to Missoura. Native Missourians just despise that mispronounciation....it wouldn't change the essence of the street name and I think that it would put a big ole smile on Coach Don's face!!!

texashawk10 7 years, 5 months ago

Depends on what part of Missouri someone is from influences how they pronounce it. I had a geography professor who was from Missouri that pronounced it Missourah instead of Missouri.

Vince Brown 7 years, 5 months ago

Mediocre player & coach may be true. There is/was no more loyal Jayhawk than Don Fambrough. My first thought was to do away with missouri st., but those folks were too lazy to file change of address forms. "Kivisto Field" just doesn't sound right. We've got a football field named for a mediocre basketball player who was fortunate to hit it big in the business world. Street naming will do. The main thing is not to forget Coach Fam. Charlie Weis oughta get a video of Coach's anti-mu speech and play it, even if mu isn't on the schedule anymore. Weis's rant at the practice session was about practicing everything. Practice getting fired up. Fam can help.

Gareth Skarka 7 years, 5 months ago

And the continuation of the pathetic cult of athletics continues in a supposed University town...

...of course, as a institute of higher learning, Kansas is pretty much a joke, so athletics is all it's got going for it. And everybody knows it.

Lonnie Ross Dillon 7 years, 5 months ago

Check the various ratings and you'll find that for a public institution KU stands up quite well. So no, not everybody "knows" it.

kureader 7 years, 5 months ago

It seems you're not a supporter of KU athletics OR academics.

As for academics, I'm a proud KU graduate with 27 KU degrees in my immediate family. So, I say kiss my butt. You obviously don't have a degree from KU, or you'd have more pride in your university.

As for KU athletics, we also have a proud tradition. Obviously, you're not a part of it either. If you're not interested in KU athletics, perhaps your should spend time on another site?

Rock Chalk!

kureader 7 years, 5 months ago

You obviously have no knowledge or experience with KU football.
You're the one who's disgusting and embarrassing.

Though is it true, that if the athletic department cared half as much about dedication to KU as they do about donations, they'd name KU's football fleld after Coach Fambrough. Then the City of Lawrence wouldn't have to argue about whether to name a street after him, as well.

Rock Chalk ... RIP Coach. Some of us will always have your back.

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