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Monday, April 23, 2012

Basketball recruit Tony Parker picks UCLA; KU in running for Xavier point guard Mark Lyons

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Tony Parker, 6-foot-9, 250-pound center from Lithonia, Ga., picked UCLA during a ceremony at his high school Monday afternoon.

Parker, ranked No. 27 in the class of 2012 by Rivals.com, picked UCLA over Duke, Georgia, Kansas, Ohio State and Memphis.

Meanwhile, KU is in the running for former Xavier point guard Mark Lyons, Zagsblog.com reports. He will graduate this spring and be immediately eligible as a senior next season. Arizona and Kentucky are also on Lyons' list of schools.

Comments

milehighhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Bet he kept the receipts for those other four hats.

Michael Mulvihill 9 years, 7 months ago

He didn't even get a KU hat. only had 4 on the table

John Randall 9 years, 7 months ago

We just weren't adoring enough for his sensibilities. We, and he, knew all along that Mr. Porker wouldn't survive boot camp, much less see any time on the floor after the first few pre-season games.

Cmill1221 9 years, 7 months ago

Probably was only allowed to use Nike hats in his new contract.

Sam Finocchiaro 9 years, 7 months ago

Mark Lyons, I like him the most of all available players that are transferring considering the Jayhawks. He could start for us because he is a senior. He looks good and he has experience. I like him. A LOT

KULA 9 years, 7 months ago

Bet he didn't have to pay for the UCLA cap.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 7 months ago

Arizona and Kentucky, huh???

Dr.X, please take a look at Kansas...Championship game in a rebuilding year!!!.....lots of PT, ESPN, CBS, etc........I ain't Lyons, come make your Mark!!!

bigjay83 9 years, 7 months ago

You might want to head back to the batting cages. Swing is looking a bit peaked.

addlime 9 years, 7 months ago

"I ain't Lyons, come make your Mark"

I like it. That should be our recruiting slogan. We should print up tees and head to Xavier.

CardHawkFan 9 years, 7 months ago

After watching that hour-long press conference for a five-second choice, not sure I want someone like that coming to KU. Good luck to the young man out in California! Too bad your coach won't be around much longer.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 7 months ago

As long as he out-recruits all but 2 or 3 schools..he will have a job. Howland has made it to two final fours in the last decade by bringing in top talent and even last year's debacle hasn't hurt recruiting.

CardHawkFan 9 years, 7 months ago

Recruiting hasn't been hurt because of Mr. John Wooden and of course being in LA doesn't hurt. I am not saying that he isn't a decent coach, but there is something going out there...I will always wish kids' luck. Just hope he didn't decide to join a bad situation.

actorman 9 years, 7 months ago

Actually he made it to thee Fiinal Fours, not two, and they were in three consecutive years. That's pretty impressive, no matter how much talent you have.

SoCalAlum 9 years, 7 months ago

Re-assembling an AAU team seems antithetical to Coach Howland's history and style of play...unbelievable. I guess this kid Parker saw Josh Smith and said, "yep, that's who I want to look like!"

Dyrk Dugan 9 years, 7 months ago

this is the last chance for Ben Howland. He now has the top recruit, and a top 30 recruit coming in. I know UA had a nice recruiting class as well, but c'mon.

we've all been told what a great coach BH is...and now he has some real talent Better do something with it. I would say regional final next year or bust. Because Shabazz probably is not sticking around.

I was wondering what HCBS was talking about when he said he was still pursuing point guards...and now we know. what a great get Lyons would be....he's averaged 14 points a game the last two years...and he can shoot it from deep a bit, and he's a good foul shooter.

Mr. Lyons, c'mon down! Go Jayhawks!

Steve Gantz 9 years, 7 months ago

Did you read that Sports Illustrated piece on Holland? That was a shocker. I lost a lot of respect for him after that. He totally lost control of his team, giving star treatment to stars. 3 thousand fans this year in their arena shows what he did to that program.

bangaranggerg 9 years, 7 months ago

No idea why kids are still giving that coach and program a chance after the legacy they've destroyed in the last few years. That program has been a real headscratcher recently, but guess I can't think of many 18 year old kids who wouldn't be seduced by the recruiting tools they have at UCLA. I just gotta shrug it off and say I think I'm prouder of someone who'd choose Kansas. Good luck to them in what is reportedly a pretty undisciplined environment.

jayhawkinATL 9 years, 7 months ago

Tony Parker = Bobo Morgan reincarnated!!!!!!

en1gmatikk 9 years, 7 months ago

UCLA is the most storied program in college basketball, a top-3 public school in terms of academics in a great location, and with a top-3 recruiting class, very understandable choice.

MeanderingHawk 9 years, 7 months ago

+1

Wish the best of luck to Parker. But I'm not sure what he is thinking, his best years are ahead of him (yr. 2 & 3) and Shabazz ain't staying around. I think Parker considers himself a one n' done. It's a shame.

UCLA will be good this year and it will be interesting if we ever get to play them.

actorman 9 years, 7 months ago

I wonder if he would have more likely to choose KU if Danny was still there.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 7 months ago

...and the hottest coeds on the West Coast!!!

kerbyd 9 years, 7 months ago

Oakville, Went to the USC game last year and they could give UCLA a run for their money! Unfortunately for USC they sucked even worse than UCLA at b-ball.

RJ King 9 years, 7 months ago

Agree with Kerbyd.

Admission to ucla is incredibly difficult for in-state students. 4.0, varsity sport, high SAT and community service + leadership, band, musical instrument etc. often not enough. Gorgeous campus and many fine-looking young ladies.

However USC is private. Admission requirements not nearly as competitive + $ talks. Campus not as beautiful, but coeds hotter and in higher numbers.

63Jayhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

UCLA is NOT the most storied program is college basketball. It IS ONE of the most storied.

John Randall 9 years, 7 months ago

Aside from the Papa Sam Gordon decade (the part of Wooden's tenure with better than 70% w-l record), there really is nothing 'storied' about UCLA on the hardwood. Since the NCAA began showing at least a little backbone, that scenario isn't likely to repeat.

gchawk 9 years, 7 months ago

If by "storied" you're referring to the incredible run they had in the mid 60's and early 70's, you may have a point.They had arguably the best college basketball coach of all time with Coach Wooden, but the most storied program?, I don't think so. KU, UNC, Duke, Kentucky, and Indiana are generally considered the premier programs in the nation.

SaltLakeHawk 9 years, 7 months ago

UCLA gets on that list long before Indiana.

Can't ignore all those championships.

Cameron Cederlind 9 years, 7 months ago

Not to take away from all their championships (which are questionable enough), it would be much more difficult to repeat any of that today. When they won all their championships, you started the tournament in the Sweet 16, you only had to win 2 games to get to the final 4 and 4 games to win it all.

Brad Boline 9 years, 7 months ago

I will give a very tradition rich basketball program, but too me UCLA is like Nebraska football, at one time the top of their sport, now just an average team. Maybe with a little Missouri in them, were they think they are the best.

Justin Diederich 9 years, 7 months ago

I agree mvjayhawk. Come on down Mr. Lyons. I'm so glad we didn't get Parker. He looks lazy and spoiled. Who takes that long to decide, all he wanted was all the attention on himself. That attitude does not work at Kansas.

Troll_or_AntiTroll 9 years, 7 months ago

Parker's not the one who is allegedly lazy at practice. From the AP:

Coach Chris Mack announced the mutual decision on Monday, after they'd talked about how the shooting guard needed to change. Mack and Lyons were at odds during the season, when the guard repeatedly tried to take over games by driving into crowds of defenders or taking long shots.

Lyons averaged 15.1 points last season, second to point guard Tu Holloway. He lost his starting job for several games midway through the season because Mack was unhappy with how he practiced.

"After our end-of-the-season meeting with Mark, it became apparent that a change for both parties was the right thing moving forward,'' Mack said in a statement. "During our meeting, expectations were outlined for his fifth and final season, areas in which I believe needed improvement.

"Mark did not recognize these expectations as being important, and ultimately it was decided that a change of scenery would be in his best interest. I wish Mark well.''

Lyons got a two-game suspension for his part in a brawl with Cincinnati in December, which resulted in four players from each team suspended.

brooksmd 9 years, 7 months ago

If you think all that attitude doesn't work at Kansas, why then would you want Lyons. Seems to me he wanted all the attention at Xavier by not listing to his coach.

Steve Corder 9 years, 7 months ago

David Stern and the NBA have turned "college" basketball into a joke. How many players in the Final Four had attended their classes since the start of the semester? Did anyone in the media ask? It's the NCAA/NBA Prep League. OADs make a mockery of the sport.

Ethan Berger 9 years, 7 months ago

It's not Stern, its the PA. Stern wants to change the rule.

Kye Clark 9 years, 7 months ago

Why would we want a PG with only 1 year of eligibility left? EJ is going to run the point next year, is this kid really going to want to back him up and play maybe 15 mpg tops?

The alternative is HCBS plays them both, but then you're talking about sacrificing BMac's minutes by keeping EJ at the 2, and the domino effect of then cutting into White's minutes, and so on and so on.

Just doesn't seem like a good fit. The best option here is to stash the scholarship away for next year.

jaywalker 9 years, 7 months ago

First of all there's no scholie to stash away. If Lyons got one for next year that'd be it; he's only got one year left.
Second, I'm fairly certain we'd be better off w/ Elijah off point. He struggled mightily in that role this year when he was forced into it. I expect his dribble penetration will improve, but his limited floor vision led to countless atrocious passes. Last half of the season I kept telling my buddy that we're going to be in a world of hurt at point next year unless Tharpe bulks and improves dramatically.

yovoy 9 years, 7 months ago

Jaywalker is correct. EJ might have been a PG in high school (not sure he was and I'm lazy), but if we are going to depend on him to bring the ball up (which we aren't - I hope) we are going to have problems. Nadir is still incubating, and that's fine, as he's going to round into a great guard. OurSelf messed with Mario's head when he was young as well, now it's Nadir's turn.

EJ was one of my favorite BB players anywhere when he got here, and he still is, but unless he works a great deal on his handles over the next 6 mos, he's not a PG. He has occasional problems going from one part of the floor to another without down at the ball. He DOES have good enough handles to get where he needs to be to get his shot off, and that'll be easier in our sets if he's off the ball. He's got the tools, and Self gets combo guards so if we have to do it by committee we will I imagine, but I'm guessing that we'll have a PG next year.

KD, I saw EJ kick an amazing amt of tail during our run, and he didn't do it from the point as much as he did from off-ball. When that guy was at the point, he could throw to (in ascending order) Releford/Teahan, Withey/TT, and TRob. You hit them enough times and you'll get assists just 'cause you threw it to them. I like Young so much because he manufactured points for people (mostly TRob) because he was in the right spot at the right time, and he wasn't a PG.

We'll have a PG, and I highly doubt it will be a player that is essentially a OAD.

John Randall 9 years, 7 months ago

No worries about EJ playing off the ball, whether or not he is the one bringing it up. Any backcourt player on a Bill Self team spends at least half the time during each possession without the ball in his hands.

Kye Clark 9 years, 7 months ago

jaywalker - you are correct that there need not be any stashing away of a scholarship for next season with this kid. My mistake.

That being said, I think you're dead wrong about how EJ handled the point last year. I thought he was great when he ran the point in Tyshawn's absence, and he even handled some of the duties while TT was on the floor.

It's OK to be wrong, so many fans were wrong about Tyshawn, Withey, how our lack of depth would hurt us, etc. But make no mistake, you're wrong.

Steve Jacob 9 years, 7 months ago

That tells you how bad we need a back-up point guard. You can't expect a point guard to play as many minutes as Taylor did, and EJ is having knee surgery. Self would kill for an experienced point guard about now.

John Randall 9 years, 7 months ago

Only if the experience was with a high-low offense. Otherwise it's just one more guy behind on the learning curve.

Scott Smetana 9 years, 7 months ago

I want the big man out of Eastern Europe. Hopefully Sasha's met him and put in a good word.

Jayhawk_4_Life 9 years, 7 months ago

"kinda" being the key word in your sentence

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 7 months ago

A lot of sour grapes are making the rounds.

Jim Jackson 9 years, 7 months ago

Would be nice to land this big man, we're on his list and I believe he is eligble this fall.

http://www.eurohopes.com/player/1028/przemek-karnowski/

itsalwayssunnyinlarry 9 years, 7 months ago

I feel like we have enough big men for next year. We need a pg.

Jeremy Bolinger 9 years, 7 months ago

TP will eat himself out of any chance to be successful. Anybody sad or upset with this just remind yourself of Perry Ellis and Zach Peters. Add in Jamari Traylor and I doubt TP would've seen the floor. He doesn't strike me as the hardest working kid on any team, and his selfishness was quite apparent today.

Jeremy Bolinger 9 years, 7 months ago

Don't want the Xavier kid either. Sign Rio and call it good.

Cameron Schienebeck 9 years, 7 months ago

Parker is one of those kids you have to recruit because of talent. It's only the work ethic that is lacking. Not saying he won't be a star at UCLA but it's not the best place to go if you already have the munchies without the weed.

Calijhawk 9 years, 7 months ago

In the end, I will take the players we have in Self's system than Shabazz and Parker in Howland's. Parker said a lot about wanting to work under someone like Hudy...I honestly don't think he really wanted any part of her.

Michael Pannacciulli 9 years, 7 months ago

Just hope we get the chance to spank UCLA in the tourney

Mel Clare 9 years, 7 months ago

I hope we take a look at the kids from UConn...........they just had a 6'10 redshirt FRESHMAN Michael Bradley.and a 6'8 Roscoe Smith soph annonunced they will transfer because of the NCAA no tourney for 2013 thing.....

Kristen Downing 9 years, 7 months ago

How about Trent Lockett from ASU? He has a grade point average over 3.0 and zero disciplinary issues. Minnesota is out of scholarships and if he is considering Gonzaga that move will not keep him close to his mom. Need good guys, not Xavier's problem child. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7845980/the-transfer-process-perspective-players-coaches-ncb

Stephan123 9 years, 7 months ago

Will Shabazz will be ruled ineligible by the NCCA as was mentioned in previous news releases? Is that still an issue?

DRsmith 9 years, 7 months ago

Bazz will be ok I think. Might have to sit a few games or repay some money but that will be the extent of it.

Ben Simonett 9 years, 7 months ago

This makes it 3 years in a row that Self has missed on all his top front court prospects.

Do I really have to wait for the inevitable decline in on the court performance before people wake up and recognize this as a problem?

DRsmith 9 years, 7 months ago

Well it helps that Perry stayed at home. Not knocking Self, I think he is a very good coach but only a slightly better than average recruiter.

Sam Brockert 9 years, 7 months ago

Yes, those top ten recruiting classes are crap!

DRsmith 9 years, 7 months ago

Pretty sure I could coach KU and pull a top 10 class. Goes with the name.

waywardJay 9 years, 7 months ago

I don't think he was being sarcastic, perhaps they can use him in a baby blue feed, I hear they are quite fond of ex-Jays named Smith.

AZHawk72 9 years, 7 months ago

Well, moving on to players we have a better chance of having with us, here is the best, most detailled piece I could find on Anrio Adams.

I've never attempted to attach a link of any source to anything. Oh, sure, attachments to emails and the like, but computers came along a little after me, and I was a manager before finishing as a teacher, one who always delegated a little "Hey, would you find this for me?" I'm working on my computer illiteracy, but...

Anyway, if this link does not work, it's from the February 28, 2012 sports section of the Seattle Times and titled "Ranier Beach Star Anrio Adams Making Good of Second Chance" by Mason Kelley, high school sports editor. You're probably going to get a little more than you wanted to know.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/highschoolsports/2017620028_mason.29.html

If this works, I'll be shocked. Any correction/direction would be appreciated.

AZHawk72 9 years, 7 months ago

Well, I tried the link, and it gave me today's Seattle Times. Unless you want to play "archives from hell," remove the three periods and add...

highschoolsports/2017620028_mason29.html

Hopefully, this will resolve the really blind leading the somewhat blind. Where are my glasses.

Wisconsin2Kansas 9 years, 7 months ago

Last week I get ridiculed for not wanting to land Parker, now people are "happy" that we didn't sign him. I can't quite understand this blog sometimes...

Alohahawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Nope. Not working. You've got the same problem I have. I'm in that pre-computer generation that enjoys the fruits that come with computers, but don't ask me which grove they're in or you'll end up with apples instead the oranges you asked for.

Alohahawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Oops. This is in response to AZHawk72's first post. Thought I was on the reply button.

AZHawk72 9 years, 7 months ago

Sorry, you're stuck in my time zone, Aloha. I did retrieve it through "archives, Feb.28."

9 years, 7 months ago

The most entertaining thing I have seen on this thread so far was IrishCharlie trying to sneak back on here without being noticed. Funny how a little perceived adversity tends to draw the trolls and miscreants out from under their rocks. Are you listening jason7of9??

RecruitHawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Recruiting Updates and Opinions:

KU is now recruiting the following -2013 PG Joseph Chealey 6'3" FL "Chealey is a stat sheet stuffer who affects the game in a variety of ways. On Saturday morning, the junior guard was able to be a primary scorer, find open teammates and be a major factor on the defensive end. Chealey seems to have the unique ability to make the player around him better" Lean: None

-2013 PF Marcus Lee 6'8" CA "Lee has a Tracy McGrady-type frame and he is bouncy as well. He can cover a lot of ground in the open court due to his athleticism and he is surprisingly skilled in some areas (passing/left-handed jump hook). He gets most of his points of put-backs, but his skill set is growing. At this stage shot blocking and rebounding are his greatest strengths" Lean: None (Sounds like Bill Self Big Man)

-SR (1 year eligibility) PG Mark Lyons from Xavier Averaged 15 pts 3 reb 3 ast Last Year In Running: KU,UCLA,Zona,Duke Lean: Zona

-2012 C Przemek Karnowski 7'1" 280-pound from Poland "Measuring at 7-0 without shoes Karnowski with average wingspan possesses excellent size to play at center position even on NBA level. Despite lack of impressing athleticism, 19-years old prospect is quite mobile and well-coordinated. At this stage of development, Karnowski has plenty of room to continue to work on his body, which undeniably needs trimming up, what confirms for example 16.3% body fat rate measured last year before Nike Hoop Summit. Worth to admit, that Pole, who is terrific hard-worker lost over season 2011/12 at least 6 kilos on weight." In Running:Gonzaga, Marquette, Duke, Kansas and Pac-12 schools Lean: Gonzaga

-2013 PF Chris Walker 6'9" FL (#7) "The long thin combo-forward displayed a nice skill level and athleticism. Walker is more of a small forward who can step away from the basket or score facing the goal. His handle is good enough to drive the ball from the high post to make a play at the rim. If he catches the ball on the block he becomes a face-up guy who likes the turn-around jump shot over his defender. Walker does a great job of running the floor in transition and has the ability to finish at the rim in traffic." Main In Running: Florida State, Florida, Kentucky, Kansas Lean: Kansas

-2013 Combo G Al Freeman 6'4" NC (#13) "Allerik is one of the more unique players in the Class of 2013. He can play the 2 or the 3. He has the ability to create as a passer. He possesses an exceptionally strong upper body and can best be described as a power wing player. He plays like he's rolling down a hill." In Running: KU, UCLA, Duke, Ohio State, Villanova

Other Notables (Not as Likely)

1 SF Jabari Parker IL

2 PF Julius Randle TX

3 PF Aaron Gordon

Alohahawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Very nice synopsis of the higher ranked recruits. And I agree pretty much with your analysis of each. However, while the recruiting boards have Freeman primarily at the SG, at 6' 4" he is projected as more of a combo PG/SG than SG/SF. I see Self using him at the 2, similar to how EJ has been used, then moving him to PG as he progresses.

MeanderingHawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Rivals has Joe Dooley recruiting Anthony Barber, a 2013 point guard. Anyone know anything about him? Looks to be highly ranked.

RecruitHawk 9 years, 7 months ago

PG from VA 6'2" Ranked 24 in nation and 4 for position "Barber is a point guard with great length and a ton of explosion to his game. His speed with the basketball is off the charts as he is able to push the ball from end to end in the blink of an eye and equally explosive with his first step when attacking in the half-court set. His speed and length also makes him a tremendous defender, both on and off the ball, as he can dart into passing lanes from out of nowhere or lock up opposing ball-handlers. Physically, he has ideal size for his position that enables him to see over the defense"

KULA 9 years, 7 months ago

Tony Parker's gonna go to UCLA. You heard it her first.

RJ King 9 years, 7 months ago

At last. Now we can all pray for World Peace.

AZHawk72 9 years, 7 months ago

And with the addition of Parker, ESPN has just elevated UCLA to the top recruiting class, just above Kentucky and season-long leader Arizona. Speaking of the jerks to the south, why do any of you think Lyons, recruited by Miller for Xavier, is NOT going to Arizona to replace the departed point guard/malcontent Josiah Turner? Don't you think he'd follow his former coach, who just recruited a center, two power forwards, and a shooting guard in the third ranking class? Well. duh--he'll be in the "widespot in the road on the way to Mexico" before you can say Cabo. Next.

studio 9 years, 7 months ago

For sure ralster. Try to be the first, and repost this reminder on every recruitment thread when oxymoronic selfserving OAD's pick another Hat.

AZHawk72 9 years, 7 months ago

And with the addition of Parker, ESPN has just elevated UCLA to the top recruiting class, just above Kentucky and season-long leader Arizona. Speaking of the jerks to the south, why do any of you think Lyons, recruited by Miller for Xavier, is NOT going to Arizona to replace the departed point guard/malcontent Josiah Turner? Don't you think he'd follow his former coach, who just recruited a center, two power forwards, and a shooting guard in the third ranking class? Well. duh--he'll be in the "widespot in the road on the way to Mexico" before you can say Cabo. Next.

Katie Bieber 9 years, 7 months ago

Today, he's 250lbs. Yesterday, he was 280. The day before he was 270. Three days ago he was 265. The kid may want to start checking his glucose levels.

RJ King 9 years, 7 months ago

LOL. Maybe just like he needed five hats, he'll need five uniforms.

hawkdocNY 9 years, 7 months ago

After watching that Xavier/Cincinnati brawl, all I could think was "wow - so glad this wasn't KU - so glad none of our guys are this stupid."

I hope that if Coach Self is interested in someone from that team that it means the kid has changed for the better :)

Clarence Haynes 9 years, 7 months ago

I have this vision of Parker and Josh Smith having Big Mac attacks with Twinkies on the side!!

Alohahawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Well, UCLA does have the Wear Twins. Now they can have the Twinkie Twins.

Alohahawk 9 years, 7 months ago

Good article. I've just heard the rumor that KU is currently his top choice, with nothing about an early commit. I've always thought it's between KU and Florida, Florida being his home state. The article does bring up the possibility of Kenstinky. And even if Walker were to verbal early, say to KU, Cal Lie Pari doesn't follow the understood rules most coaches follow. That being, once a recruit has committed they're off the board. While I hope KU prevails, I'd rather see Walker at Florida, than at Kenstinky.

Martin Shupert 9 years, 7 months ago

I want no part of any of the thugs who were in that brawl. It was as ugly as it comes. And the thing is, the ugliness was continued long after in the press conferences. Why would we want any part of this guy? Go away. Frankly, I'd rather lose.

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