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Saturday, April 7, 2012

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Expect big things from KU duo

Kansas freshmen Jamari Traylor, left, and Ben McLemore  watch the Late Night in the Phog festivities from the bench on Friday, Oct. 14, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas freshmen Jamari Traylor, left, and Ben McLemore watch the Late Night in the Phog festivities from the bench on Friday, Oct. 14, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Now that we’ve seen what the Kansas University basketball team can do when a rare season that doesn’t start with high expectations unfolds, everybody might as well face the facts: Great things will be expected every year from now on, regardless of how the team looks on paper.

With just one starter back, Tyshawn Taylor — who also happened to be the only returning player who scored a point in the team’s last game the previous season — and with the two best recruits declared academically ineligible on the eve of practice beginning, the Jayhawks still advanced to the national-title game.

With Taylor gone and unanimous first-team All-American Thomas Robinson likely to announce any day now his intention to leave for the NBA, where will Kansas turn to replace all that scoring?

Guard Ben McLemore, who was allowed to practice with the team during the second semester this year, is a nice place to start.

So how good is McLemore, a 6-foot-5, 185-pound St. Louis native?

“Ben has as much potential as anybody in the gym,” Kansas coach Bill Self said. “Potential. I mean, he’s as good a prospect as anybody we have in the gym. Period. And if you were to ask Thomas and Tyshawn who the best prospect is, including themselves, they both would say Ben McLemore.”

Self’s use of the “P” words, potential and prospect, mean McLemore might not light it up from Day One.

“Now, he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Self said. “He has no concept of certain things. His handle and passing ability reminds me of Brandon Rush when he was young, which if you remember, wasn’t great.”

Self making that comparison wasn’t the last time Rush came to mind when the coach talked about what makes him think so highly of McLemore’s potential.

“He can run, jump and shoot,” Self said of McLemore.

So could Rush.

“And he has the quickest feet of anybody, maybe since I’ve been here,” Self said. “Unbelievable feet.”

Rush’s ability to slide his feet, combined with his length, made him a standout perimeter defender. McLemore has the makings to develop into one as well.

Jamari Traylor, a muscle-bound, 6-8, 215-pound power forward from Chicago, also was able to practice with the team second semester.

“They both made the most of a negative situation,” Self said. “One’s got a 3.3 (grade-point average), the other’s got a 3.2.”

On the court, Self said, “Jamari’s raw, raw, raw, but he’s like a shorter version of Thomas when he got here. He’s maybe more explosive than Thomas. He doesn’t have the physical strength Thomas has, but he is a warrior. He’s good. Jamari’s good.”

A ninth consecutive Big 12 title sounds like a reasonable expectation.

Comments

kusportsdotcom 8 years, 1 month ago

Of course it's a reasonable expectation. That's what we DO!

Joel Hood 8 years, 1 month ago

Whoaaaaa... not so fast. Let's ask Jack Harry first.

ccarp 8 years, 1 month ago

I don't know if we'll hear anymore smack from Jack. I think he now understands if you wanna win the Big 12 title, you gotta go through Lawrence.

Jayhawk1116 8 years, 1 month ago

Awesome comment, jayhawkerjoel. Love it! Poor Jack.

8 years, 1 month ago

Jack the hack

Jack leg

Jack in the box

No matter what you call it Jack's a jerk.

Brian Conrad 8 years, 1 month ago

sent Jack a note.. he only gets to go to a Final Four because of the Jayhawks.. he should tell his tiger club buddies they should foot the bill. old Fizzou will fade away fast next year. and Jack and ALL the sports shows in KC will know who butters the bread..

Jeff Kilgore 8 years, 1 month ago

And then remind his sorry axe that the Big 12 will dump the Sprint Center for OKC, Dallas, or, well, where can we host the tournament in Kansas?

Eric Williams 8 years, 1 month ago

^^^ ignore. I meant Intrust Arena in Wichita.

Pbbut 8 years, 1 month ago

Jack best known as a specialist on SEC hoops.

rawheadrex 8 years, 1 month ago

Jack who? I worked with guy named Jack Harry at a KC teevee station more than 40 years ago. He lost that gig, but went to then KCMO, later KCTV, when Don Fortune was axed, but I heard he lost his gig there in a major-salary-of-on-air-personnel versus cheaper available talent. He was an SIU graduate. Let's see, that was in the days of Ken Coy, Ken Robinson, Bill Grigsby and that most lovable of all human beings, Jack Cafferty. Those were the bad old days. Could that be the same Jack Harry?

Travis Shinkle 8 years, 1 month ago

What's amazing is, yes Jack sucks, but also the major Kansas City newspaper, for as much as it needs KU is very much a pro-Missouri paper. Their writers continually have stated/written that they think the Border War games should continue and they are the same ones who think the Big XII will not have the tournament in Kansas City since Missouri left...

Idiots.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

I think the hope is that we can hold onto BMac for two years. Not saying he is just like Rush, but it took a knee injury to keep him here his third year. Also, with half a season of practicing under his belt BMac might be more ready right out of the box.

Evan Ridenour 8 years, 1 month ago

Rush was also a much higher ranked recruit. I could easily see BMac struggling for a couple of years and being here for three years.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

Wondering how many times we'll see people posting their line-up predictions for next year on this thread. You know people are just chomping at the bit after yesterday having only an article on Self's basketball fantasy camp to write about.

meremy 8 years, 1 month ago

1) EJ 2) Releford 3) BMac 4) Ellis 5) Withey

6) Tharpe 6.5) Parker goes here if he comes 7) Young 7) White 9) Traylor

vsmooth 8 years, 1 month ago

The same line-up that I am looking at for the 2012-2013 season. Do believe it will be very interesting.

prusso25 8 years, 1 month ago

I'm ridiculously excited to see these two studs play. As much fun as the 2012 season was... It lacked the fun of seeing freshman play. Glad these guys have 4 years of eligibility left (not that B-mac is going to need it)

I can't wait until November!

ku_foaf 8 years, 1 month ago

I have a very good feeling about Naadir.

Scott MacWilliams 8 years, 1 month ago

"Raw, raw, raw"..... I have no problem with raw, because I know that the coaching crew will be working these guys and showing them what they need to do to get to the top.
Come on, we just took a team that was probably the weakest KU team, on paper, that has come out of AFH in forever to the NC game!! HCBS will have us not only taking another Big 12 title to the house, we will likely be strong in the NCAA's as well.

Where is the Final Four next year???

Who's got the countdown for Midnight Madness???

Rock Chalk, Jayhawks, Go KU ! ! ! ! !

KUDUDE 8 years, 1 month ago

GBJAYHAWK THE FINAL FOUR NEXT YEAR WILL BE IN ATLANTA GEORGIA

Dee Shaw 8 years, 1 month ago

Just curious if you have ever heard of Google. It's a neat invention that you can type in what you are wanting to know and they find it for you. Try it.

Kevin Studer 8 years, 1 month ago

Nobody likes a smug yagoff that belittles strangers for no reason.

Kevin Studer 8 years, 1 month ago

Nobody likes a smug yagoff that belittles strangers for no reason.

KU79 8 years, 1 month ago

Nobody likes a smug yagoff that belittles strangers for no reason.

KU79 8 years, 1 month ago

Nobody likes a smug yagoff that belittles strangers for no reason.

chahawk 8 years, 1 month ago

We are absolutely loaded! We have nice depth and I think this years recruiting class will perform better than expected. B-mac will stay for two years . My only concern would be the bigs. I feel more comfortable with having a couple 6'10" or above guys banging down low.

jhox 8 years, 1 month ago

My biggest concern in the point. Elijah started to show signs of being able to handle it late in the season, when he started to show the willingness and ability to penetrate, but losing Tyshawn hurts a lot, no question about it. I'm guessing Elijah will be at the point, McLemore at the 2, Releford the 3, Withey the 5, and the 4 will likely be between Perry Ellis (don't know how they keep him off of the floor) and Tony Parker should he commit. Parker is a Bill Self big man if I've ever seen one, he's a definite bruiser. I really know nothing about Traylor, but from Self's comments I'm sure he'll be early off the bench, as will Kevin Young (I wouldn't be surprised to see Young or Traylor start early, until Ellis and / or Parker get acclimated.

One thing is certain. We won't be hurting for inside depth as we were this past season. I've seen Peters play, and he's got a lot of offensive skills and runs the floor extremely well. He may be hard to keep off of the floor if he can learn to defend like Self demands. We definitely need help shooting 3's. Elijah has proven he can knock a few down. I seem to recall reading that Andrew White can knock them down, so that should help, but if he's playing point that may mean fewer open 3 looks for him. I've heard McLemore is more of a slasher. If this season proved anything, it is that we really need a reliable 3 point shooter to help stretch the defense. In the National Championship game we were forced to defend the entire floor, while Kentucky was able to collapse 4 guys into the paint, and double and triple team our bigs. We've got to find more outside scoring.

Self is going to have a difficult time keeping guys happy with playing time last year, but it won't be the first time.

doctorWho 8 years, 1 month ago

"what we really need a reliable 3 point shooter to help stretch the defense."

You are almost right. What we really need is a baller that happens to also be a reliable 3-point shooter. No more "3-point specialists" that end up costing as many points on defense as they earn on offense.

baldwinjhawk 8 years, 1 month ago

Yes Kaleb would have made us LEGIT! But he rolled the dice for Arizona, a team that sucked ba**^# this year.

jhox 8 years, 1 month ago

Someone who has seen Kaleb play several times in person, and someone whose opinion I respect, tells me he's overrated. Parker would be a much better land, even though shorter and doesn't play the same position..

Freedman Moor 8 years, 1 month ago

He said he followed his "gut". Maybe someone should have given him a Tums.

gchawk 8 years, 1 month ago

Don't forget about Zach Peters, quite a stud in his own right. I think we're loaded with bigs for next season.

gchawk 8 years, 1 month ago

Sorry jhox, I see you already mentioned him.

ku_foaf 8 years, 1 month ago

I have not seen Peters play, but he appeared very physically impressive even at age 16 in the pictures I saw.

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

why does everyone feel like bmac would leave early? to me he seems like someone who could be a senior... having met him a couple of times a couple years back at basketball camps, he's a pretty level headed dude.

i dont think he'd be like selby and leave early when he clearly shouldnt....

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

A lot of it comes from the comments of his teammates. They have been quoted as saying he'll be NBA-ready in 2 years. Level-headed doesn't have much to do with leaving early. Cole and TRob strike me as level-headed, and they left early. I don't think people are thinking he'll leave "like Selby", they just think he'll be ready. There's a difference.

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

ready nba skill wise and mentally wise are different though. B-Mac seems like the type of kid who wants to stay in college for a while. Not bolt for the NBA as soon as he gets dollars flashed at him. I dont know i might be completely off base here. He just reminds me of a Chalmers rus rob type. not a wright selby

brooksmd 8 years, 1 month ago

If I remember right one of the reasons Cole left early is due to the financial situation of his folks. And we all know the main reason for TRob going. Mainly his little sister and secondly the time is right for him. So to me, they were both "level-headed."

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

no i agree, plus they were ready. as were rush and chalmers. but wright and selby werent realistic thinking they were ready. yes wright was a lotter picky but barely, and he would have benefited big time by coming back 1 more year

Dirk Medema 8 years, 1 month ago

Selby clearly shouldn't?

Some people are of the opinion that he clearly souldn't, but the fact is that he got drafted and is playing in the NBA. That was his goal so sounds like he clearly made the right decision. Stop bashing a pro.

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

lol he rides the bench. he clearly would have benefited from a year or two more here or somewhere else. he's now like julian wright who wont catch on anywhere. they get paid money to play a game so they can catch some criticism. i like selby but he left way too early

Brian Conrad 8 years, 1 month ago

yes but if he had stayed an extra year he would be lottery pick.. way more ready for long term contract and not ride the bench.. ask Mario Chalmers... Selby will be lucky to get next contract .. was bad decision.. his path would have been set with more coaching and time to mature..

PakaRocks 8 years, 1 month ago

It will be great to have these two young men get the opportunity to step into AFH and compete for serious minutes. Unlike Xavier... what would it be like to have a 6'5" player that could shoot and play defense. Good luck to both Ben and Jamari over the coming months... you will both have opportunities to be impact players.

ParisHawk 8 years, 1 month ago

Xavier led the team in steals his year.

Bee Bee 8 years, 1 month ago

And led the team in getting beat by his man and not rebounding. Lazy.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 1 month ago

Now that we’ve seen what the Kansas University basketball team can do when a rare season that doesn’t start with high expectations unfolds, everybody might as well face the facts: Great things will be expected every year from now on, regardless of how the team looks on paper.

I can only speak for myself, but I've expected great things every year for 45+ years from Kansas basketball.

We ARE Kansas, after all.

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 1 month ago

Exactly, we are KANSAS. Just ask Kimmy English. We're not Kentucky. We're not North Carolina, We're not ULCA. We don't have down years. We don't miss the NCAA tourney. We don't settle for second best in the league.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 1 month ago

when

and when the plyers completely buy in to what the coaches teach and are willing to play D (effort, toughness) as much as O (skill, fun).

John Randall 8 years, 1 month ago

Like a lot of people who are neither, you are confusing muscle with bulk.

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 1 month ago

mus·cle·bound also mus·cle-bound  (msl-bound) adj. 1. Having inelastic, overdeveloped muscles, usually as the result of excessive exercise. 2. a. Hindered by or as if by overdeveloped muscles. b. Characterized by inflexibility; rigid.

gchawk 8 years, 1 month ago

I've heard great things about Traylor, that he's essentially a TRob clone. As far as him not having the physical strength as Thomas, just wait for Andrea Hudy to perform her magic. I am really looking forward to next year's team, it's shaping up to be something very special.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 1 month ago

From the Justin Wesley file .. don't get too excited about Traylor. You can look at Self's quotes about Wesley and they are similar to Traylor (not in exact detail, but in just emphasizing the positive without really saying anything).

Contrast that to what he says about McLemore.

That is the difference between a high level prospect, and a mid level one.

Last offseason, there was a barrage of posts about Wesley being a key contributor, a rotation guy .. Self said a rotation guy. Athletic, learned a year under Self, ready to play, etc. And really, Wesley was nothing more that a body. Posters gushed over Anderson and Traylor as if they were going to be immediate impact guys.

There is nothing that has been said by anyone in the know that Traylor has any real skills with the basketball, or that he's really better than Wesley. Never heard one thing that he can score near the rim, has a go to move, can shoot the mid range jumper .. nothing. Just this vague energy stuff. And I hate seeing the word "raw." That means lacking developed skills.

At best, expect that Traylor could develop into a Darnell Jackson type player. But remember how long it to Darnell to actually develop. And remember that Darnell came to KU as a much more highly thought of player. His main impact was his senior season. Extraordinary talents make impacts as freshmen. Traylor is not that extraordinary talent. Traylor is a body right now. For next season, he's Justin Wesley until proven otherwise.

And that then brings me to our post players. We have Lucas, Traylor, Peters, and Ellis (maybe not a pure 4). Lots of inexperience. A poster on the page about Oriakhi mentioned that it takes time for new players to adjust to Self's defensive schemes, questioning why Oriakhi would be a fit with one year of eligibility. That logic also applies to freshmen and their impact. I am curious as to how this will all work out. But don't expect the Lucas, Traylor, Peters trio to produce an outstanding player for next season, just a serviceable body.

The best solution .. one that now seems remote with Manning leaving .. is to nail down the extraordinary talent in Tony Parker.

That would permit a 4-5 rotation of Withey, Ellis, Parker, and Young. Without Parker, adding in Lucas or Peters or .. gulp .. Wesley .. that's rough.

Of course, many of us (me included) posted last off season about how thin we'd be. I knew it all along. We'd be so thin that we'd win the Big 12, make an incredible run to the national championship game, when being "thin" in the post would finally come back to haunt us. I just knew it would cost us in the end. Tongue in cheek, of course ...

Really, though, we won't have a TRob next season. The discussion though, after this past season, is not IF we'll win next season, just how. No discussion of .. will we make the tournament, or can we compete in the Big 12. We're past that. It's just HOW we will win.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

Good point about the Wesley-Traylor comparison. If memory serves me right, the Traylor statements by Self are fairly similar to those describing TRob as a freshman. Very little talk about his skills, it was all about his "motor". TRob did very little as a freshman behind Cole and the Morris Twins. Now Robinson also had some tragic circumstances that perhaps motivated him to progress beyond his normal ceiling. But TRob was fairly raw his first year as well, and he turned out to be a POY caliber player. My point is not to expect the same career arc from Traylor, but rather to point out that if an eventual player who will have his jersey hanging in the rafters struggled in his first season, fans should expect closer to that level of play in Traylor's freshman year rather than expecting him to be junior year TRob.

As for the post players in general, it will be interesting to see how they develop without D-Manning. Part of me wonders if Self might be embracing this as a challenge, like Danny was getting total credit for the big men and Self had nothing to do with their success. It might be rough, but we'll have Withey & KY to anchor us in the post, and I expect Ellis to thrive. Typically three bigs are all that see major minutes, so I don't think it will be a situation like '05 where we had nothing but freshman and sophomores. Also, it depends on how much you believe Self's statement that Peters is a top-20 talent. If that is true, or close to true, then we might not be as bad off as you fear.

As for Parker, eh. Do we know he's "extraordinarily talented"? At least in so much that he would be a solution for next year's issues? He's ranked about where TRob was as an incoming freshman. Also, he doesn't look like the athletic-type of big guy that works in Self's system. 6-8/6-9, 250-270 lbs, depending on which recruiting service you look at. That's going to slow us down so much. Quite frankly, I'm fine with him going elsewhere.

I think how we'll win next season is to rely much more on perimeter scoring - EJ, Travis, BMac - than in years past. I think the onus is on Withey to elevate his offense to take some of the pressure off the perimeter. That, or Ellis is going to have to deliver right out of the box. Regardless, I love years like next season. Seeing lots more fresh talent coming in is exciting.

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 1 month ago

ICT, I agree with you about Tony Parker.

Maybe he is a can't miss prospect, but is he a can't miss prospect playing the style of play that Bill Self prefers. If TRob stuggled to guard quick and athletic post men, then every time we face a team that plays small who goes out? Withey or Parker? With TRob it was pretty obvious, we wanted TRob in the game. But with Parker, do we sit him and let Withey play?

I am optimistic about Perry Ellis he should be more polished offensively than his competition at the power forward position. Hopefully he, Kevin Young, Traylor, and Wesley will be enough to team up with Withey in the frontcourt and not hurt the team defensively.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 1 month ago

ict: There have been a number of reports that this guy is the real deal, including dominating highly ranked guys. But who knows for sure. Remember, Self doesn't really need athletic big guys. His offensive sets are slow, and based on feeding the post. Next season we are likely going to struggle a bit for offense again. We lose our two most dynamic scorer .. what's left that we know about? Let's assume McLemore equals Taylor's scoring .. a big chore. We're still behind this year's team. I do think Ellis can deliver out of the box ... I guess my point is that Parker gives us another option, a highly rated and highly thought of player that by all accounts would be immediately in the rotation and likely our starter in 2013-14.

To answer plasticjhawk's point, we'll need more than two big guys. So Withey, Parker, Ellis, Traylor seem like a solid four man rotation. Against some teams, we wouldn't be able to have Withey and Parker in together. That's a given. But other than against MU and Purdue, when was it a big deal having TRob and Withey in together? It would be a nice problem to have. Further, remember, Withey only has one season left.

FLJHK 8 years, 1 month ago

Among the many great thing about KU hoops under Coach Self is watching him piece together the changing parts from season to season, and figuring out the best roles for his personnel. The team we see in March is always substantively different from the one we see in November as he figures out the season puzzle. Even when many of the same players return, the role they play can be quite different from the one they played the prior season. As an example, a player like Releford might have a very different role on next season's team.

But we certainly do know that Self will field a fun and competitive team each and every year. I can't wait.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 1 month ago

Anyone know what our schedule is shaping up to be? I believe this years strong schedule contributed to the FF run.

prusso25 8 years, 1 month ago

Hate to say it, but I'm giving credit to mizzou for our run. Beating them when we were down almost 20 gave us confidence to pull off or tournament upsets.

I can't believe I'm saying this... I'm going to miss mizzou

Joel Hood 8 years, 1 month ago

So, are you saying that the AP coach of the year was responsible for KU's run at the NCAA championship? (Irony...such a fickle flavor - so sweet for some and yet so bitter for others)

Freedman Moor 8 years, 1 month ago

KU had been overachieving even before they played the Bushwackers.

baldwinjhawk 8 years, 1 month ago

ZACH PETERS! I've seen him play. Don't discount this kids abilities. He can flat out ball.

Freedman Moor 8 years, 1 month ago

Damn right! I don't know who I'm more excited to see--Peters or Ellis. I hate to say it, but his game reminds me of Hansborough. Peters looks like he has better ball-handling skills though.

april28 8 years, 1 month ago

Self asked Peters to skip his senior year and come directly up to KU. That says something about the kids ability.

Gil Ek 8 years, 1 month ago

I have to think there might be a redshirt or two next year. Who would it be? Maybe Wesley to spend a year bulking up and learning. See his potential. Who else?

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

I don't think Wwsley can red shirt. He sat out a year when he transferred already. Anario Adams? Peters if he isn't ready.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

Lucas might be a good candidate for a redshirt. As dylans said, Wesley wouldn't be eligible for a redshirt.

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

Lucas is probably the best bet.
Who are all of the scholarship players for next season?

AsadZ 8 years, 1 month ago

Merv Lindsay may red shirt as well

Dirk Medema 8 years, 1 month ago

Justin could be a walk-on, as he was when he got here.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

As I stated below, he has to as it stands now. That's without bringing anyone else in.

Pius Waldman 8 years, 1 month ago

Hey no redshirt as he spent a year after transferring to KU.

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

Did you see the article in the KCStar, "Sad Jayhawks warm the hearts of MU fans"? What a bunch of loosers. They can't root for their own team so they revel in KU losses. Fn mizery fans. What a bunch of sad miserable pieces of crap.

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

have you been to the stadium sports bar in columbia? their main wall has the jerseys of vcu, northern iowa, bucknell and bradley. all my friends think its hilarious but i find it sad that they idolize teams that beat us in the tournament. really sad.

i wonder if they'll be hanging a norfolk st jersey....

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

I'm sorry you have been to Columbia, man.

Jace FitzGibbon 8 years, 1 month ago

lol ive been there more times than i can count. the downfall of growing up in st louis and having all of your friends go to mizzou

Jack Wilson 8 years, 1 month ago

Well, we had just a little fun with the historic Norfolk St. loss.

Difference is, MU has never won anything, so the loss wasn't that shocking. Actually, it was easy to see coming.

Back after our MU loss, I mentioned that it was better .. better for MU to get their hopes and expectations up. To be begin dreaming. Then, as has always been the case, the end is even that more crushing. It's like the sun rising in the east, except to MU fans.

Jeff Kilgore 8 years, 1 month ago

In my bracket, I had them losing to Florida because they never played defense. I didn't realize that it would cost them in the first round, but it did. Self's teams play defense, and that means everything.

Not one team in 2008 or in this year's tournament reached 70 points. In 12 total games, not one team reached 70. That's quite an accomplishment.

Kye Clark 8 years, 1 month ago

dylans - here is the scholarship situation for next year:

Returning players on scholarship: 1. EJ 2. Releford 3. Withey 4. KY 5. Naadir 6. Lindsay

Becoming eligible: 7. BMac 8. Traylor

Incoming recruits: 9. Ellis 10. Peters 11. Lucas 12. White 13. Adams

That's 13, the maximum allotment of scholies. This configuration is predicated on Wesley returning to walk-on status. Just for clarification as a couple of posters have speculated on this in the past, red-shirting someone does not free up another scholarship. So if Self lands a late recruit, then someone is leaving (most likely Lindsay). That, or Adams' eligibility issues result in him not coming on board. I haven't heard anything more on that; he was supposed to take the SATs in December.

Does anyone know how many walk-ons we're allowed to carry? By my count we'll have four next year: Garrett, Roberts, Wesley, and if we're to believe the article from Thursday Evan Manning.

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

Thanks. Red shirts count against the scholly limit? That stinks. So who losses their scholarship if tony parker comes to KU? And why would KU want the Uconn transfer if the current limit is already met?

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

I didn't know Merv had a schollarship. That's kinda troubling. He seems to be a good guy, but I doubt he will contribute on the court much. I hope there is room for him down the road as he seems to be a high character guy.

Eric J. Baker 8 years, 1 month ago

From what I understand, you can have as many walk-ons as you want. You can have 50 if you're willing to accommodate that many.

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

I think Only so many can suit up for the game though.

mikehawk 8 years, 1 month ago

However it fits together, and we know Coach is the master of such, we desperately need a CONSISTENT three point shooter and we are one year away from Conner Frankamp. The one player who people have stopped talking about is Nadir. It looked liked to me Coach was doing the same thing with Nadir he did with Russell Robinson his freshmen year. If you remember, RussRob came in and really looked good early, and suddenly, he looked confused and lost, and ultimately got lost on the bench. He almost didn't come back, and I think Nadir may be thinking about his options, also. Coach can be tough on point guards who want to look for their shot and bring their high school game with them, and generally not do the things he wants them to do. Both had to sit over there and watch their freshmen year until they are so broke down he begins building them back ready to play. I still think Nadir will come off of the bench to spell Elijah, but will bring good, deep shooter's skill with him that helped save our tails against Purdue when he had to play him and really didn't want to. The problem was, Nadir, problably left over from high school, came in with instincts to look for his shot and not his teammates. Coach, I think, decided he had to cure that to get what he wants long term, and hopefully, the shot will still be there when things break down or late in the clock, or when left alone because of sagging on our bigs like happened over and over this year. A deadly, and consistent, three shooter with the rest of game as HCBS designs things, suddenly is much more lethal. We just didn't have it this year, consistently, and when it counts under pressure. We really haven't had that in awhle.

Andy Tweedy 8 years, 1 month ago

What you have described is totally the opposite of what every recruiting rag said about Tharpe. He's been consistently described as a pass first point guard, so I don't think your fears will become reality. Personally, I think he'll be just fine, and won't be going anywhere, as he has said repeatedly.

Clarence Haynes 8 years, 1 month ago

I found the article written by CBS analyst Dennis Dodd regarding TRob's reply to whether or not Davis was "Superman" to be stupid and childish on Dodd's part.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/18258325

While Dodd effectively characterized TRob's response as sour grapes, TRob in my opinion gave a frank and honest reaction especially having such a question posed after TRob's hard fought effort Monday night. When Davis matches the accomplishments of Wilt, Russell, West, Jordan, Magic, and Jordan, perhaps he should receive such accolades. Until then, TRob's answer was just right!

doctorWho 8 years, 1 month ago

Davis is going to be a very good NBA player, but at his age you can bet he is going to severely abused on numerous occasions his first few years in the NBA. He might one day be an NBA all-star, or he might just another NBA big.

No matter what he does in the NBA, I'm damn glad he is off of Kentucky's roster.

Sam Constance 8 years, 1 month ago

Dennis Dudd is a piece of sh*t Missouri fan.

This article is the closest he could come to getting his editors to publish "Kansas sucks a**. I hate them."

I've never seen a legitimate POY candidate be so underrated and downplayed by the media.

Eric J. Baker 8 years, 1 month ago

Anthony Davis is good, but all the comparisons to Bill Russell are absurd. They're just saying it because he's big and blocks shots. Bill Russell was also a scoring machine, and more than that a rebounding machine. And not only did he win championships out the wazoo as a player, he won them as a player-COACH, too. Besides Wilt Chamberlain, easily the best big man to ever play the game.

I understand reporters like to be sensational and make comparisons, but think about it first. You can't just use people like Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain as generic "great forwards/centers comparisons," that's insulting to their legacies. And it places unrealistic expectations of people like Davis, especially if he starts to believe it.

dylans 8 years, 1 month ago

More like an old Kevin Garnet after he quit scoring twenty a night. But before he learned how to play great nba level defense.

Eric Bernauer 8 years, 1 month ago

8Straight was nice.

How about 9In-a-Line?

Eric Bernauer 8 years, 1 month ago

8Straight was nice.

How about 9In-a-Line?

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 1 month ago

How about: True to our bloodline At KU there is no decline Here comes "Nine" As usual, by Self design.

or simply: Divine Nine...(too girly???) or: Nine is Fine.

brooksmd 8 years, 1 month ago

I'm not going to make any predictions on the season or starting five. I personally have enough confidence in HCBS after this season to know that he will take what he is dealt, win our 9th straight Big 12 championship and get us as deep in the dance as the team is capable of going. Isn't it great being a Jayhawk fan?

lee3022 8 years, 1 month ago

Bill Self did not surprise this year for those who have been watching and listening. He said before the season that this team would guard but would have trouble scoring. Even so he turns out champion after champion. The league is the most important achievement and the hardest one. Expectations? Yes, the league again and into the NCAA again. Where we end in single-elimination tournament is more chance than skill.

I do think Naadir will be a key next year. I also think Kevin Young will be playing a lot more next year - maybe as a starter. Peters is intriguing and may shock the media. Just because he did not play AAU does not make him not a player for us. Danny Manning got a lot of credit for working with our bigs. But Kurtis and Joe and Bill are really great as well. I do not see a drop-off next year.

Jeff Kilgore 8 years, 1 month ago

Do any of the bigs coming in have three point range?

HawkKlaw 8 years, 1 month ago

I agree with everything you said, except that Kevin Young is not a 3pt threat. He's not even much of a scorer, for that matter. He's more just a big body that gets rebounds and makes life difficult for the opposing bigs.

Steve Stucky 8 years, 1 month ago

Hey LJ, hope we can see this same picture maybe three hundred more times.

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