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Originally published September 8, 2011 at 03:56p.m., updated September 9, 2011 at 12:00a.m.

Freshmen Traylor, McLemore attending class

Braeden Anderson still awaits word from NCAA

Ben McLemore pulls back for a dunk during warmups and prior to the start of the alumni scrimmage game on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at the Horejsi Center.

Ben McLemore pulls back for a dunk during warmups and prior to the start of the alumni scrimmage game on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at the Horejsi Center.

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Kansas University freshmen basketball players Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor attended classes Thursday morning for the first time this semester, but have not yet been fully cleared by the NCAA to participate during the 2011-12 basketball season, coach Bill Self said Thursday.

Self said he expects to hear today from the NCAA Clearinghouse regarding the status of freshman Braeden Anderson, who is not yet on campus and has not been cleared to be on scholarship.

“Ben and Jamari both are enrolled in classes and attending,” Self said. “The NCAA and Big 12 have cleared them to be on scholarship and attend class while they still are responding to some academic materials (submitted by the players and the three high schools they attended).”

McLemore and Traylor will not be allowed to take part in individual preseason practice drills until they are fully cleared, which Self hoped would be soon.

“I think it’s a situation we don’t like dealing with and know the NCAA doesn’t like, either, but they’ve got a job to do,” Self said of NCAA Clearinghouse officials’ determining eligibility of the trio. “We did not anticipate having to go through this with these kids at all, but they (NCAA) brought up some points they wanted to look into. The process does take a little time.

“We are really glad to have them in school. I know those two kids are excited,” Self added. “We know the next week or two will be spent getting them in catch-up mode so they are back to a level playing field (academically).”

McLemore, a 6-foot-5 guard from St. Louis, started at Wellston High in his hometown. Last year, he attended both Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., and Christian Life Center in Houston.

Anderson, a 6-9 forward from Alberta, Canada, started at a high school in Canada. He attended Christian Faith Center in Raleigh, N.C., as a junior and Wilbraham and Monson Academy in Massachusetts as a senior. He withdrew from the Wilbraham, Mass., school in February and finished his degree by taking an online class at home in Canada.

Traylor, a 6-8 forward from Chicago, attended Fenger High and Julian High in his hometown. He attended IMG Academies in Bradenton, Fla., last year.

“Those kids have been to more than two (schools). They’ve been to three. When you do that, you’ve got to go back and check everything. They have to evaluate everything, re-evaluate everything. We understand that,” Self said. “Nothing has been done that we didn’t understand. We hoped it’d be done before. They (NCAA) needed some additional information. It’s our job to provide them that information.”

A year ago, freshman Josh Selby was in a similar situation as the clearinghouse examined his high school coursework.

He was allowed by the NCAA to start attending class on Sept. 7 as the clearinghouse continued to look into his transcripts and grades. He ultimately was cleared academically on Oct. 27.

Selby elected not to attend classes before getting cleared because in the case of not being cleared, the student-athlete is responsible for tuition and room and board.

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Recruiting: KU coaches today will conduct an in-home recruiting visit with Perry Ellis, a 6-8 senior forward from Wichita Heights. Rivals.com’s No. 24-rated recruit has a final list of KU, Kansas State, Wichita State and Kentucky. ... Andrew White, a 6-6 senior small forward from Miller School in Chester, Va., will visit KU for the Sept. 24 Legends of the Phog alumni basketball game. The No. 56-player in the class of 2012 is considering KU, Texas, Tennessee, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State and others.

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Phog on Internet: The Legends of the Phog game will be shown live on AT&T Jayhawk All-Access via kuathletics.com. The Sept. 24 game, which tips off at 4 p.m., is sold out. It will also be shown on Metro Sports.

Comments

Pbbut 3 years, 1 month ago

I like the line..."but they’ve got a job to do.”

The rules and requirements are set up and the NCAA needs to staff properly to get this done prior to the fall term. If they say they are doing this to protect the student athlete, then they need to protect them. The NCAA should follow the ideal of, "First do no harm."

Redlandsjhawk 3 years, 1 month ago

Exactly, cases like this should get an automatic "interim" clearance. It could just be to be able to attend class and receive room and board for one semester. Who could that possibly hurt?

Bob Forer 3 years, 1 month ago

Couldn't agree more. Simply additional proof that NCAA doesn't give a damn about the student athlete. If they did, they would ensure that the player would at least be entitled to attend class until cleared. Moreover, if they cared about the players they would have nipped in the bud a long time ago the ongoing debacle on the formation of super conferences, which will only serve to fatten the wallets of the NCAA and its affiliate schools, while at the same time increasing the amount of travel time to away games, which will result in more missed classes. The NCAA is an absolute joke.

Bob Forer 3 years, 1 month ago

Couldn't agree more. Simply additional proof that NCAA doesn't give a damn about the student athlete. If they did, they would ensure that the player would at least be entitled to attend class until cleared. Moreover, if they cared about the players they would have nipped in the bud a long time ago the ongoing debacle on the formation of super conferences, which will only serve to fatten the wallets of the NCAA and its affiliate schools, while at the same time increasing the amount of travel time to away games, which will result in more missed classes. The NCAA is an absolute joke.

aerohawk 3 years, 1 month ago

Correct, and they can't practice or play until full clearance. If they end up not being cleared they aren't on scholarship anymore. If that is a risk the university is willing to take then it should be fine.

lee3022 3 years, 1 month ago

Aerohawk, the risk is on the student if not cleared to pay for the schooling costs if eventually turned down. The school is prohibited from paying.

In addition the moment a student, by rule, enrolls in calss he forfeits one to two of his five years of eligible time and starts the clock running. The NCAA uses school enrollment to trigger that clock when the student is recruited for the sport.

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 1 month ago

Exactly the point I was trying to make when the story first broke.

Kyle Sybesma 3 years, 1 month ago

Didn't read anything beyond that comment. HCBS deals with the NCAA better than I would. Especially after the Selby fiasco.

El Jay 3 years, 1 month ago

I agree, this is just ridiculous. Every year now if we have this issue where kids have done nothing to make themselves ineligible and yet the NCAA wants to keep them ineligible for indefinitely. Its ridiculous. It doesnt protect the student athlete because as the article eludes to, it forces them to miss class and be behind on their course work and then puts them in limbo of not knowing whether their scholarship will cover their tuition and living costs. Many of these kids cant afford college without the scholly so the NCAA is effectively holding them and their academic careers hostage. If the NCAA doesnt have the necessary staff to be able to do its job effectively, perhaps they should expand their staff or simplify the rules so it doesnt take 6 months to determine if a kid is eligible or not. What about determining if a kid is eligible before classes start? There's an idea. And why is it that it took the NCAA an entire semester to clear Selby and only a week to clear Cam Newton last year? Selby accepts what amounts to something like $2500 in benefits and misses 9 games and countless classes while Newton and his family shopped his services to the highest bidder and never had to miss a single snap. Its total crap. The NCAA is a total joke. They honestly are like the UN - totally worthless

LaJHawk666 3 years, 1 month ago

The UN saves thousands, if not millions, of lives each year through food programs and disease prevention. They also negotiate peace settlements and maintain cease fires. And they compile a countless amount of facts, data, etc. for use by the US and every other country. I understand your criticism of the UN, but I wouldn't exactly call it worthless, unless you consider human lives worthless. Now back to basketball...

lee3022 3 years, 1 month ago

There are divisions of the UN that have value to people around the world. But there are also fraudulent divisions who are power hungry and seek to become an all-world controlling government. Even though the USA pays much of the cost of the UN we are shunted aside except for our veto power in the security (or should I say insecurity) council.

This is not the stage to debate the UN but as for NCAA - that is fair game.

Troll_or_AntiTroll 3 years, 1 month ago

Stop recruiting school-hoppers and the problem's solved.

waywardJay 3 years, 1 month ago

I don't see the epidemic of "school Hoppers" effecting us the way they do other schools...

waywardJay 3 years, 1 month ago

The first article on Braden Anderson said he was first and foremost a student.... Apparently there is a concern that Canada's Metric Grading system does not Function with the Archiac NCAA......

Free the Hawks! Free the Hawks!

ajs10 3 years, 1 month ago

Oh its "hee-hawwww", I always thought they were screaming "EMAW..."

Andy Tweedy 3 years, 1 month ago

So how does this affect conference realignment?

lee3022 3 years, 1 month ago

For the moment KU has no effect on conference realignment. The big football powers decide and we follow their actions with our own. Having students not able to enroll does not have any effect on conference realignment.

Conference realignment does have an effect on recruiting but it is unknown what that effect will be. For some recruits the uncertainty may cause them to wait. For others they will see who we are and it does not matter who the opponents are - they can be assured the opponents will be top-notch.

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 1 month ago

You are probably 90% correct imo.. The other 10% is KU is not just another basketball school and the Big East is known far more for its basketball excellence than for football.

8 football teams.. 16 basketball..

They want Kansas and will expand to 12 and 20 in order to bring us in. You can't tell me that any of the other schools in the discussion bring anything close to the national audience as Kansas Basketball. .

Clydecito 3 years, 1 month ago

Lebowski: That is the best post I've ever read on the Internet.

jaybate 3 years, 1 month ago

I missed it. Can u summarize?

Lebowski, can u repost?

kureader 3 years, 1 month ago

Keeping players out of basketball practice is one thing ... keeping them from attending classes is quite another. The NCAA continues to find new ways to "outdumb" themselves.

milehighhawk 3 years, 1 month ago

The NCAA does everything possible to demonstrate incompetence.

It should have started the 'evaluation' the day these kids signed. To punish them by keeping them out of their first semester of college is unconscionable.

Add to that with the joke of amateurism and the lack of punishment of violations at major schools, save USC.

If there are 100 terrible outcomes as a result of conference realignment & the emergence of superconferences, at least one benefit will be the end of the NCAA's stupidity.

Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 1 month ago

(Anderson)....."....finished his degree by taking an online class at home in Canada."

Hey, that's the answer............have these questionable status newbies take classes online and avoid the whole infraction issue!

jaybate 3 years, 1 month ago

Still no public comment by CBernie or Zenger on conference realignment!

This is getting ridiculous.

How far behind the curve are they?

What? Are they winterizing their flipping ski boats?

Press conference.

Talking points.

Give us something here, CBernie.

Sheahon, what up with alignment? What is the plan? Do you have a plan?

Will you both please stop not leading?

Is there anyone at the con?

Does this ship have a captain?

Does anyone have the helm?

Hello? Lawrence, Kansas, are you there?

jaybate 3 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

But IMHO, it is a symptom of the problem.

CBernie is in damage control mode, rather than telling KU fans what is next, what we are up against, who our enemies are, who our allies are, and who is neutral.

In short, she is offering no vision, no rallying cause, just reactive reassurances.

Leaders do this when they have still not made up their minds what they want to go after.

The reason they do not know what they want to go after always involves not having anticipated sufficiently the current scenario.

KU's leaders were apparently caught utterly by surprise.

But KU's fans, a significant portion of them, a portion familiar with Texas, Texas business, and Texas sports, were not.

The war started over a year ago.

Her statement is the kind of thing you say, when you are still trying to figure out how a war started.

KU needs to be in attack mode, not withholding a right to sue the team that merely did what KU should have been anticipating, and perhaps should have been doing itself.

What conference should KU be in, Chancellor? The Big 12, or another? If not the Big 12, then which? Where is this ship sailing?

JayBateDoppelganger 3 years, 1 month ago

This ship has no captain and doesn't need one if you listen to the AD and chancellor. The two KU non leaders at the helm will continue to navigate the rapids of conference realignment in a dinghy and once they crash into the banks there will be a lifeboat for Bill Self called the NBA.

The course must be changed with leadership to prevent this as quite frankly Self is more important to KU than either of the 2 non leaders.

KU_FAN_circa_77 3 years, 1 month ago

Doppelganger- As a Jaybate fan who has heretofore been a silent observer, know that you'll need to muster healthy helpings of wit, analysis¸ evidence, and eloquence to ever be mistaken for RSOLWB-JB (Reigning Sage of Lawrence Journal World Bloggers - JayBate).

Nevertheless, I strongly disagree with the JB's take on this one.

The last conference-realignment-run-around revealed the tale of two B10 wannabes. One, MU, loudly voiced their displeasure with the B12 and UT, and made it plain to the world, from the governor to regents to the Chancellor to the AD, to coaches, columnists, and yes, bloggers, that MU was eager to ditch their date and give it up to the knights in shining armor to the north. Fat lot of good it did them. The other, NU, navigated discretely through back channels.

KU has already given adequate notice that it will do everything possible to enable the continuance of the B12, from their statements, to their acquiescence to airing an additional FB game on the LHN, to their more recent refusal to waive the right to litigation re A&M. If the continued existence of a robust B12 is in the Jayhawks' best interest (as I believe it is), what would be the utility of disclosing tentative dalliances with suitors to the east and west? To mollify bloggers? I accuse you and JB of the ultimate sin on the LJW site--Mike-DeArmond-ism (rabble rousing without analysis).

Friends don't let friends engage in DeArmondism.

jaybate 3 years, 1 month ago

You make a great case. I only wish I could agree.

To reiterate, CBernie is a great reactor and in many cases that is the right strategy, but sometimes you have when you have been fooled, you have to let the ships already lost burn, while you hide the carriers and attack.

Reserving the right to sue A&M is damage control, not organizing an attack, or attacking.

We need a Nimitz here, not a Kimmel (and I say this with due respect to Kimmel who was probably disinformed by USA's then essentially British run intelligence). Defending the Big 12, making it last another year does not solve the problem of conference instability. It makes it worse. It ensures only a third subpar recruiting season--exactly what we need to avoid to keep Self and keep KU bball on an even keel.

KU_FAN_circa_77 3 years, 1 month ago

JB- I've read your posts for a few years, often with amazement. Your analysis re HCBS has taught me a great deal. And dude, you can write. I live next door to a prominent sports journalist. I've forwarded him your posts. He's equally impressed.

Still, in this case, excepting the past and future performance of CBernie as captain of KU's academic & athletic ship (which I don't know enough to comment about), no matter what she and Zenger are planning on doing, she's doing it with the correct public persona.

Take a look towards our eastern the border. The Haith imbroglio requires IMMEDIATE public action/statements to staunch the bleeding. Yet Alden & Co. sit impassively as the fish they've dragged on board continues to rot, leading to an eventual nasty explosion.

Now look south. OU's public perusals DO serve their cause: namely, to assert that if they are to remain in a viable B12, they have to be ceded near equal power with Texas as the co-dominant football power.

But it doesn't do the "little" FB schools (ie., KU, BU, ISU, KSU who are not traditionally dominant in the big money concuss-a-thon called football) a bit of good to rock the boat.

I'm not quibbling about what KU should do, but how KU should talk about what it plans to do, which was what you were lamenting in your post. Re your military analogies, you're pleading for the generals to announce their invasion plans to calm the locals. Sometimes in love and war it's best to hold your cards close to your chest.

lee3022 3 years, 1 month ago

Some really good discussion here. The missing point about Texas is that they have little or no incentive to belong to a conference except one that provides them with more money. Although the love of money creates all sorts of evil, Texas has bought in: lock, stock and barrel. This is part of the anger shown by Nebraska when they left. The demand for more money than others. This is part of the anger shown by A&M when they decided to leave. The taking of advantage over other conference schools by televising HS games in Texas. This is part of the anger shown by Oklahoma in considering leaving the conference. The arrogance and Texas first attitude that not only comes from Austin but from the Big XII staff. But Texas cannot have its own money from its new network in any other conference. So Texas would be (and perhaps shall be) an independent without the Big XII.

Can KU enter into that fray? Yes, KU can announce they are considering leaving the conference and will decide in three weeks. That will get some comment and headlines around the country. Will it help KU? Apparently not in the view of our fearless leaders or we would have done so. I prefer it this way.

Nearly every conference in the country would seem to covet KU for its basketball and basketball tradition. Perhaps a basketball super conference with KU, Duke. UNC, Mich State, UCLA, UK, Florida and UConn would get some big money flowing from coast to coast for basketball. Who knows

jartiv 3 years, 1 month ago

lol. Is it because canadian doesnt transfer for english credits?

jayhawkintx73 3 years, 1 month ago

The NCAA is completely out of line. If they were concerned about academic qualifying, how can these kids catch after nearly two weeks of classes already gone? The NCAA is not concerned about the academic integrity of the athletics. This should have everyone upset.

The NCAA knew these kids were coming to Kansas before the end of Spring Semester 2011. They had time, and didn't do their part for the good of these kids.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 1 month ago

HCBS addressed this issue last year during the Selby fiasco. The NCAA is looking at all athletes that have complicated transcripts. This means, because their season is underway, football players take precedent.

Of course, I guess it would be too logical for the NCAA to:

1] Expand their staff to help with the glut of reviews. 2] Outsource to a special consultant to function solely on these cases. 3] Allow all kids on campus, on scholarship to attend class and if there is a violation rescind the scholarship at the end of the semester. 4] Or , a really crazy, insane suggestion..... start the reviews earlier

jaybate 3 years, 1 month ago

I can see it now.

NCAA outsources to India. :-)

Steve Gantz 3 years, 1 month ago

We need to start recruiting only Ivy League type players so this doesn't happen again :) Seriously, they're students first, athletes second, so why the heck not let them attend classes from the start? If ultimately they're ineligible, thus not able to receive the scholarship, see if they can pay for the time they were there, if not, well they just received a couple of free months at KU. I mean, how is a kid going to miss a month of class and have any reasonable chance of being successful in it?

Steve Swart 3 years, 1 month ago

Can you imagine that call flow chart? At any time during your recruitment did you have relations with the opposite sex? yes my friend I understand and at anytime during this relations did she ever offer you a slurpy or a lottery ticket? :s)

FeaRRaef 3 years, 1 month ago

Where have you gone Vaughn, Haase, Aldrich and anything close to an academic all-American? Say what you will about coach Williams but he got us good "keeds". Except Lester Earl....

Keith Kienzle 3 years, 1 month ago

Aldrich was a Self recruit. So was Tyrel Reed, who was also a first team academic all-American, and graduated last year. Kevin Young had a 4.0 GPA in high school, and is coming in this year. You're off on this one.

Keith Kienzle 3 years, 1 month ago

Whoops. mistake... meant Merv Lindsay had a 4.0 in high school.

JayDocMD 3 years, 1 month ago

Well, Marcus Smart committed to OkSt today. Was really hoping KU would land him.

JayDocMD 3 years, 1 month ago

Wouldn't count on Archie Goodwin either. Why? Would you believe its because we are an Adidas school? This is a direct quote on Yahoo.com on why he eliminated Baylor:

"Coach Scott Drew is a great guy. I love Coach Drew. They were one of the first schools that were recruiting me. But I didn't like that they were an adidas team, but that's not to say I wouldn't go to Kansas because Kansas is a great team. I can look over the adidas thing — I own some adidas stuff. [Goodwin played recent summers with the Arkansas Wings Elite team, which is sponsored by Nike] I didn't like their colors, either. I don't like green and gold. That's ugly …. When you got ugly colors like that, you gotta be Nike. …. Baylor has some ugly shoes, too."

No word on whether he likes Crimson and Blue.

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 1 month ago

Does it make that much of a difference to these kids? Never really thought about it but I hope they aren't lining up for shoe deals.. Self gets kids into the NBA. Shoe deals will come if you're good enough.

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