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Oklahoma defeats Kansas, 47-17

  • 8:15 p.m., Oct. 15, 2011
  • David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, KS

Sunday, October 16, 2011

A turn for the better: KU loses again, but shows gain

Kansas cornerback Anthony Davis disrupts a pass to Oklahoma receiver Ryan Broyles during a defensive stand in the second quarter that forced the Sooners to settle for a field goal on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

Kansas cornerback Anthony Davis disrupts a pass to Oklahoma receiver Ryan Broyles during a defensive stand in the second quarter that forced the Sooners to settle for a field goal on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

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Kansas coach Turner Gill talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 47-17 loss to Oklahoma on Oct. 15, 2011.

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The final result was another loss, but this one didn’t feel like all the others.

Despite dropping its fourth straight game of the season, Kansas University’s football team walked away from Saturday’s 47-17 setback loss to Oklahoma with a feeling of accomplishment.

There were so many signs that progress was made. So many indicators that things would get better. So many reasons to believe the best is yet to come.

“I would say it was confidence and pride,” junior safety Bradley McDougald said. “Knowing this was our home turf, knowing the game we had last week and knowing that if we didn’t step up and play better it was going to get that much worse.”

Although Saturday’s step forward came down to individual players raising their games, McDougald gave a lot of the credit to senior co-captain Steven Johnson.

“Steve Johnson got the defense together Tuesday before practice and called some guys out, and it was much needed,” McDougald said. “He did what a captain was supposed to do and got the defense going, and guys just stepped up and made plays.”

That was Johnson’s message in a nutshell, and the senior linebacker used the pain from last week’s loss to Oklahoma State as a catalyst to deliver it.

“It was a little anger in me, just embarrassment,” Johnson said. “This university and Kansas football gave each and every one of us an opportunity. I got in each and every single person’s face, and I just told people what they needed to improve at and we went to practice and started working.”

It’s hard to say whether Saturday’s victory by OU said more about the Sooners or Jayhawks.

A week after giving up 70 points and 600 yards to No. 6 Oklahoma State, the KU defense surrendered 610 yards to OU. Even with that, KU legitimately competed with the third-ranked Sooners into the fourth quarter.

It wasn’t until OU wide receiver Ryan Broyles (13 receptions, 217 yards, two TDs) broke free for a 43-yard touchdown with 10:22 to play that the Sooners put the game away. To that point, the KU defense had played one of its best games of the year, flashing the grit and toughness it had been missing all season and picking up three turnovers in the process. Although the visible progress energized the team, it didn’t erase what the scoreboard said.

“We’re disappointed,” KU coach Turner Gill said. “We lost. A loss is a loss. I’m trying to win football games. I’m not in it to pat guys on the back and for a moral win.”

Regardless, the Jayhawks gained plenty of confidence from this performance, even if it led to their falling to 2-4 overall and 0-3 in Big 12 play.

Nobody expected Kansas to compete with OU for even a quarter Saturday. When it came down to it, the Sooners showed why. Although Kansas hung close for three quarters, the OU defense stifled what had been KU’s best unit throughout the second half.

“The bottom line is their defensive line, or front seven, beat our front seven,” Gill said. “We had a few good things happen for us in the first half, and they came back and got physical. They were more physical than we were in the second half.”

It didn’t take Gill saying it for that to be noticed. KU’s offense gained just six yards on 27 plays in the second half. The Jayhawks did not pick up their first first down of the second half until 3:10 remained.

“A lot of that was on me,” KU quarterback Jordan Webb, who finished 13-of-25 for 108 yards. “I wasn’t making plays like I usually do. I just have to play better.”

While many expected OU’s offense to roll up at least 70 points in this one, the KU defense held the Sooners to 10 points in the first quarter and just three points in the third quarter.

After falling behind 10-0, KU responded to tie the game on a 56-yard touchdown run from James Sims and a 36-yard field goal from Alex Mueller.

Sims’ run came on a fourth-and-one call and was the result of a wild option play in which Webb was forced to start right to grab a low snap and fought back to his left to pitch the ball to Sims, who broke free along the KU sideline.

OU answered with back-to-back TDs but only led 27-17 at the half thanks to a two-yard TD run from KU freshman Darrian Miller with 3:43 to play in the second quarter.

That was KU’s last meaningful offensive play of the night.

Who would have thought the right foot OU kicker Michael Hunnicutt would play such an important role in the Sooners’ victory?

Hunnicutt, a 5-foot-9, 169-pound red-shirt freshman from Richardson, Texas, accounted for 16 of OU’s points and cashed in on a bunch of chip-shot three-pointers when the Kansas defense stood tall and held the Sooners’ offense out of the end zone. At one point Hunnicutt capped off three straight OU scoring drives in the second half by making kicks of 19, 27 and 20 yards.

“It was great to see them continue to be so competitive in the red zone,” Gill said. “It was good to see when (OU) got in the red zone they were kicking field goals.”

When Hunnicutt wasn’t kicking field goals, OU wide receiver Ryan Broyles provided a clear reminder that the Jayhawks were a league or two behind the Sooners, who improved to 6-0 overall and 3-0 in Big 12 play in front of a crowd of 42,580.

Although Saturday’s game was hardly the kind that turned the season around, it did give the Jayhawks some much needed confidence. That, Johnson said, should inspire them to show up today ready to work that much harder as they prepare for in-state rival Kansas State.

“I have a feeling we can win the rest of our games,” Johnson said. “It’s just a feeling I have in my heart.”

Comments

johnnyhrdwd 8 years, 3 months ago

This game showed we have capable athletes.

hawk316 8 years, 3 months ago

This game should (although it probably won't) get the attention of all those Gill haters out there. It takes some special ability for a coach to keep his kids believing that they can be successful in the face of the lopsided, embarrassing defeats suffered in recent weeks.

Is Turner Gill without shortcomings. Of course not. I believe he is still growing as a coach, but he definitely brings some things to the table that could set him apart as one who could be very successful. In a game that we lost by 30 points, two of those characteristics were on display: his and his staff's ability to recruit (we obviously have some gifted young athletes), and his ability to inspire his players even in the face of nearly insurmountable odds. Just two of the reasons why I believe the best is yet to come at KU under Turner Gill.

Pitthawk34 8 years, 3 months ago

I sure hope the best is yet to come but we need to remember we gave up another 600 plus yards and less than 20 yards in the 2nd half. This is not good even if it was Oklahoma. Inspire can go so far at some point actions speak louder than words. We will see what happens against Kansas State a team that we are somewhat camparable with talent. If we are blown out the clock is ticking.

gardenjay 8 years, 3 months ago

I was really glad to hear Hatch was OK.

I think both sides of the ball looked really good (as a spectator). I really hoped we would win this one, and was surprised the defense held up so strong. I was really proud of that sack Opurum laid on their Heisman contender Q-back.

Rock Chalk boys - really proud of you.

Mike Barnhart 8 years, 3 months ago

In college football, losing at home by 30 to a team like Oklahoma isn't shameful. Let's build from here!

John Mueller 8 years, 3 months ago

+1 for what GardenJay had to say.

I was extremely proud of the effort. I don't think there is any question that our kids showed up last night and gave their best effort.

Particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

We just simply have an awful lot of mismatches when we play a team like OU that just are not in our favor at this point.

I thought Webb was awful. Other than that, really no complaints with the effort from these kids.

RCJH.

BEAT K_STATE!!!!!!

I truly think that is a team that is SO unremarkable. If we give the same level of effort, we should absolutely have a chance to win that game.

But, Webb has to make plays. When your QB is virtually incapable of throwing a 8-10 yard out, it creates some substantial limitations to your offense.

Just awful.

Where's is our buddy?

Buddy, i tell you, i didn't graduate from OU and i stole this laptop, but buddy i feel like a winner cuz i was able to steal this Sooner jersey from Target and buddy i wanna tell you, it makes me feel like a champion, buddy.

Buddy, i think Coach Stoops is gonna drop the restraining order and invite me over for dinner real soon, i really do, buddy.

What a jackass.

FSUJHAWK 8 years, 3 months ago

Great article-great sign- great future fir this program. Big ups to our football TEAM!

RCJHGKU !!!

Mangino_Maniac 8 years, 3 months ago

Great news about Hatch... that was scary seeing him taken off the field all immobilized.

justinryman 8 years, 3 months ago

“We’re disappointed,” KU coach Turner Gill said. “We lost. A loss is a loss. I’m trying to win football games. I’m not in it to pat guys on the back and for a moral win.”

This is a great quote from coach.

truefan 8 years, 3 months ago

I agree. That is exactly what I wanted to hear from Coach Gill after this game. I saw progress, we can be proud of that, but the scoreboard still showed a loss at the end of the game and we still need to improve in multiple areas.

Beat K-State and this season doesn't look so bad. Rock Chalk!

Dirk Medema 8 years, 3 months ago

You mean Coach isn't just concerned about developing gentlemen as some whiners have claimed (sarcasm)?

It was also good to hear about players stepping up to challenge players, and the responding with pride in practice and the game.

This is a very young team that is growing up.

Nick Cole 8 years, 3 months ago

I agree. I thought we looked good in spurts, but we did not play well this week, just like in every other loss this season and last. A safety's job is to not let anyone get behind him, yet OU players were consistently geting behind our safeties. If Gill is right, and players aren't doing what the coaches are telling them to do, he should pull that player and put in a bench guy (no matter how bad that bench guy is). If nothing else, it sends a message that Gill knows player A is more talented than player B, but he doesn't care. If player A is not doing what he is supposed to do, give someone else a shot at it. This is something that Roy WIlliams did a lot, and he has won a few games in his day. Take notes coach, because giving up over 600 yards and not getting a fist down in the second half until the game is over is in no way an improvement over last week, or any other week, no matter how you want to spin it.

Bill Kackley 8 years, 3 months ago

If you were at the game you should be aware that they did put in the bench guys. After the kid from Haven Ks got beat for the first long TD he came out and I don't think got back in. He is horrible Barfield must be a hell of a practice player because he is a hell of a poor game player.

Nick Cole 8 years, 3 months ago

I live in Tampa, so I was not at the game. I didn't notice that on TV though. But my point is not that you take a guy out for a single bad play, but for consistently bad play. We seem to have the same guys playing consistently bad week after week. But good observation. It would be easier to notice this if we had the freaking names on the backs of the jerseys, but that's an argument for another day.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 3 months ago

600 yds this week (70 pts last week) is strongly correlated with the O, or lack thereof. This week tho, the O was severely hampered in the 2nd half by 60% of the OL being new or in a new position. It will be nice to see less of that as the young beef matures, and we develop some reliable depth.

And don't be so delusional the think that it is just KU fans that are relieved to see improvement after a series of bad losses. It would be true of any fan base, tho most don't have to worry about losses as bad as we've seen. They also don't tend to see turnarounds either. A similar situation was when some purple people got excited about 6-6 even though the team wasn't bowl eligible due to hyperglycemia.

rockchalknation 8 years, 3 months ago

Great bounceback by the defense. I thought Shealy called a great game; the D fought hard for 60 minutes. The second half was especially tough since they were on the field so much due to our offense not putting together any type of time consuming drive. The offense was extremely limited when OU focused on shutting down our run game and we were unable to complete wide open 5-7 yard passes for 1st downs. I really like how our O-line has come together; those guys get after it. The young stable of running backs is really good. Receiver play is much improved this year; better routes and much more physical. We are really young but improving. Players gotta make plays. Keep pounding the rock!

boknowssports 8 years, 3 months ago

'shealy called a great game".....say what, we gave up half a hundy in points and 600 plus yards and that is a "great game"?!?!....good grief charlie brown!

leonard 8 years, 3 months ago

"We’re disappointed," KU coach Turner Gill said. "We lost. A loss is a loss. I'm trying to win football games. I'm not in it to pat guys on the back and for a moral win."

Maybe...finally...coach Kumbaya has gotten the message from KU's fan base. Building character and teaching good sportsmanship is not mutually exclusive from winning football games.

A coach once said "Good sportsmanship is when you help an opponent up after knocking the crap out of him".

We got clobbered by arguably the best team in the nation...on the scoreboard and stat sheet...but our defense was not run off the field in humiliation like they were in the previous losses.

As a master of the obvious...our defense was out-manned and over-matched by OU's offensive talent. Yet I was proud of the effort by our defensive squad. Now if we can just get them a little help in the second halves from the offense there might just be a small glimmer of hope shining in the distance.

danmoore 8 years, 3 months ago

"Maybe...finally...coach Kumbaya has gotten the message from KU's fan base."

What fan base? I saw tons of empty seats.

hawk316 8 years, 3 months ago

leonard, somehow I don't think Turner Gill, former All-American quarterback at Nebraska, needed the fan base to spark his desire to win. This guy has been a big time winner, and believe me, he hasn't lost that burning competitive drive. It's just a huge bonus that he also cares so deeply for his players and treats them with respect and dignity. Quite a combination. So, you are correct on that point:

"Building character and teaching good sportsmanship is not mutually exclusive from winning football games."

Dirk Medema 8 years, 3 months ago

"Maybe...finally...coach Kumbaya has gotten the message from KU's fan base."

Fortunately, Coach Gill has far more knowledge and drive than needing to check in with the armchair (Honey, get me another beer!) QB's. Maybe Coach Gill even knows that it is a process that takes some time to develop young men into good football players. Certainly glad he didn't quit as quickly as some of the "fans".

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 3 months ago

It shows you that when we are actually in a game we can't keep up the run run pass offense because it is becomes easy to defend after awhile. We still have to find a way to make better adjustments at halftime because we get worse in the 2nd half.

Defense looked better and showed more heart, but Gill better be bringing in more defensive guys. Recruit!

TenaciousD 8 years, 3 months ago

Great showing by these young Jayhawks! That was a glimpse into the future of KU football under Coach Gill. Remarkable how many times the announcers said the word "freshman" during that broadcast when referring to a Jayhawk on the field. A little bit of the foundation was laid last night for this dynasty that Coach Gill speaks about. If they can just finish this season strong, the recruiting should go up another notch next year.

Awesome job young Jayhawks!!!

Also very glad that Jeremiah seems OK.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 3 months ago

That loss was TOTALLY on the offense. The defense played well considering how long they were on the field, particularly in the second half. Only one first down in the second half...absurd!!!!!

Lynn Stuart 8 years, 3 months ago

OK lets get real, stoops showed mercy!!! he never unleashed the beast oklahoma is, doesnt it suprise you oklahoma had so many sacks and rushed passes against a much better team meaning Texas? so lets say what it was stoops pulled the reigns back and took it easy on us and never really put a rush against us. when oklahoma got fed up with our running they completly shut us down, then like in back yard football invited us to throw the ball and even said we wont rush the QB lousy coaching is still there fire the whole lot get some JUCO players to boost up the team like every winning coach does, this is just sad

Joseph Kuebel 8 years, 3 months ago

"Stoops didn't unleash the beast/took it easy"?..... Lollllllllllllllllll do you watch football or just do not have a brain?

No team "takes it easy" on any other team, ever. Wow go watch a euro soccer match and comment when u wanna start making sense. Clown. Brainless and spineless statement right there, no question in mine or any other real football fan.

Lynn Stuart 8 years, 3 months ago

UM calihawk yeah he took it easy on us and yes watch and played football, has nothing to do with OSU stoops showed more class then to completely humiliate us on TV, if you knew anything about football you would have seen that Texas is bigger stronger and faster and you really think our ofensive line is better omg please and ive been around KU since 1970 spinless? hardly the truth hurts we suck and need to bring in new coaches

babyjay1 8 years, 3 months ago

Totally ridiculous.... Obviously someone who thinks OU is so amazing that this is only way to explain last night! Too funny...

tical523 8 years, 3 months ago

I love Steven Johnson, he plays the only way you should play defense. . . . like a wild-man! He plays physical and with passion every play, what a great captain. You need a leader that can get in his teammates' faces and call people out while also leading by example.

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 3 months ago

My kool aid was spiked lol. Not even close to excited about a 30 point loss. We forget OU just got done with their big game of the year against Texas and we were the forgettable game on their schedule. If OU truly was hyped like last week we probably would have been crushed, but did we have some good moments? Yes, but we still gave up 47 points and gave up over 600 yards again in addition to allowing Broyles to go over 200 yards receiving.

babyjay1 8 years, 3 months ago

Stupid comment that Stoops went "easy" on us... are you kidding? You actually think he wanted OSU to look way more dominate than the Sooners? No way.... Don't see any OU trolls hanging around today and that says something. Where was that 21 points they were going to "lay on us" in the first 5 minutes? I am very disappointed in the 2nd half offense... had they played well, we actually had a chance to win this game. Defense was much improved and OU did not look as dominate on offense as expected. Better things to come! Rock Chalk forever!!

Lynn Stuart 8 years, 3 months ago

stoops just has more class then osu oklahoma will take care of osu one on one he doesnt need to humiliate teams the only way mu beloved jayhawks will come back is to bring the fat man back or hire another one of snyders people

boknowssports 8 years, 3 months ago

LOL @ alp.... well it was sort of a moral victory. I mean the opponents left their starters in way longer than normal. The 610 yard surrendered and 47 points given up means we won't ever win games with that type of defense. I don't care if we bring in Eli Manning. One second half first down? That won't win many games either. Well, Gill will be around another year. Hey, at least he came close to earning his 167K per week salary.....

Alex Berger 8 years, 3 months ago

It is sad. But what are you gonna do? Sit around and bemoan how we had one good year or keep supporting these players and look for reasons to be optimistic? We have 20 starters returning next year.

Ethan Berger 8 years, 3 months ago

It's not that we were excited to lose, people are exited because the defense finally because the Defense finally showed it had a heart beat. Football isn't a black and white sport. There are so many little things, and in college football if you can hang around for three quarters against a team that you have no business hanging around with, then it shows some fight.

Bill Shaw 8 years, 3 months ago

Have we set another new record for what passes as a good game?

Bville Hawk 8 years, 3 months ago

It's maybe even more sad that you feel compelled to shovel up some more of your negativity after this game.

hawksince51 8 years, 3 months ago

This was the first KU game on TV in my area this year. My only comments on KU are that we were not nearly as bad on D as I had expected; and like everyone else I was very disappointed with our O, particularly in the 2nd half. I add that it seemed to me that the scores in the first half had an unusual element of luck associated with them.

I have watched OU against MU, UT and now KU. I have to wonder just how good they really are this year. I would not be at all surprised if they lose 2 conference games this year--OSU and one other such as aTm or KSU. Also, I will be surprised if any Big 12 team goes undefeated and plays in the NC game. There appears to be considerable balance at the top.

Dan Pawlowski 8 years, 3 months ago

I have to believe having Hatch in there the second half would have made a bit of a difference. There were some definite disconnects on the snap, although the first one turned out ok for us but that kind of disruption on the line is tough at the professional level and even more so at the college level.

Kyle Sybesma 8 years, 3 months ago

I've been all in on Turner Gill but I have to admit I was on the fence last week but after this effort I'm back on Gill's side. OU's power house offense could have put up a 100 on the worst defense in the NCAA but we showed some pride. I'm not about moral victories but we've seen something that can be built on. As for the offense....the first half we proved we can run the ball but the 2nd half was ugly. OU is the standard we should strive for.

Dan Pawlowski 8 years, 3 months ago

"OU is the standard we should strive for." I would add at least one caveat - Except in Bowl Games.

JBurtin 8 years, 3 months ago

In a year like this where most of our "veterans" are sophomores like James Sims and Jordan Webb or former walk-ons like Stephen Johnson all I really want to see is improvement throughout the season.

It wasn't that long ago that nobody was singing the praises of a young Landry Jones.

I simply came in to this year knowing that I couldn't be too concerned with the scoreboard. Put together a couple more long offensive drives for scores, and you will likely have taken the time off the clock for Oklahoma to score on a couple of their drives.

The difference between an eventual blowout and a close game is often closer than most people think and if you just focus on the things that you can do to control your destiny the winning will take care of itself.

Micky Baker 8 years, 3 months ago

If the players continue to play like they did last night, and if the coaching starts letting the kids play to their strengths. The players made some plays against really good players last night and the Sooners are feeling some soreness today.

If we can get some speed on Defense and get some better play calling on offense the rest of this season, this team won't be the worst in FBS (in defense) by the end of this year. The kids tackled well. They hit hard, and there are some players at OU that might not be all that (cocky) when they play us next year.

With that said, TG has a responsibility over this entire team and the coaching staff.

ADJUST DURING THE GAME to what the other team is doing. When they were crowding the line in the second half, there was virtually a 15 yard area in the middle of the field where Biere and a Running Back could have gotten positive plays in the second half that moved the chains and they could have had sustained drives that ended up with points. Our kids are certainly capable of making some guys miss.

To the Defense, you guys showed improvement last night. No, wear the chip your shoulder the rest of the season and get you some wildcat next week. Work on the moves when rushing the QB and get some better techniques and make the QB feel some pain. You can beat K-State next week, but only if the play calling on offense adjusts and makes the other team have to guess.

texashawk10 8 years, 3 months ago

What adjustment would you have liked to have seen on offense? Webb got over 1/2 his yards on 2 plays, the Todd Reesing-esque escape and 26 yard pass to Lewis and the 36 yard heave to Beshears. I don't know if it was his knee injury (he was noticeably limping a couple of times last night) or him just having a horrible game, but for whatever reason Webb got lucky twice on pass completions and the other 11 completions went for 46 yards (4.2 yards/completion) and missed quite a few other passes either short or behind the receiver.

The running game went significantly downhill after Hatch was hurt and OU started stacking 8 or 9 in the box on every play because Webb wasn't a threat to throw the ball accurately even with all day to throw which he had until the end of the game. Yesterday we saw what happens when an elite defense playing pretty good defense (not as good as UT, but still very dominant) goes against an average offense that was rendered one dimensional because of poor QB play. The only thing I would've liked to have seen would have been a couple of trick plays because it was screwy stuff like that that directly led to KU's two TD's. A reverse pass, double pass, or any kind of trick play with Matthews passing the ball to Jackson, Shepherd, or Beshears would've caught OU off guard and setup another potential TD for KU. Based on how aggressive OU's defense was being, they likely would've been caught way off guard and put KU in a great position to get another score.

danmoore 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm a glass is half full type of person. I found the play of the defense encouraging. Offense was disappointing but our toughest games are behind us.

Bion Ostrander 8 years, 3 months ago

It was a great weather night for football, could still wear shorts and short sleeves. And I was surprised to see the stadium relatively full, because we tailgate north of the stadium and most of the usual tailgate spots were vacant or 1/2 full. But not an abnormal amount of Red in the stadium. OK, lets get to business.

As everyone knows, the Hawks defense looked much better, but Landry was not that sharp. A hollow victory in all of this may be that KU causes OU to drop another spot in the AP poll, with Wisconsin taking over the #3 spot because they drubbed their weak opponent, and Landry's stock in the Heisman may at least momentarily drop.

I thought the Hawks played with a lot of heart and gave it their all, which I have never questioned the kids all year, they are doing their best. Unfortunately, on this night, they got NO help from the offensive coordinator/coaches. Exhibit 1, KU gets an OU fumble at OU's 25 yard line, Sims rush for 4 yards, Sims rush for no gain, Lewis rush for 3 yards, KU field goal!!! UG, 3 rushes and done! Really, this is all KU has this deep in the season, they do not have a special red-zone play, no play they have held back for this situation, nothing new for this game, not even a trick play..what the HECK, is TG saving it all for K-State, was TG/Long showing their mercy on OU, did KU need to work on their field goal unit!! Makes me sick, that is pathetic.

If TG/Long do not have the confidence the offensive unit can run a misdirection play or a new play, then that lack of confidence is known by the players, and you usually get what is expected, if expectations are low then the players will play to that level.

If KU scores a TD instead of a field goal, its KU 14-10 over OU, who knows, it probably wouldn't have mattered in the big picture, but at least it would have shown some moxie from this predictable and terrible offensive coaching. KU runs on first and second downs, then consistently puts Webb in a predictable 3rd and long passing down - - and then the coaches can't figure out why KU can't score, and then the coaches wonder why KU cannot attract a decent QB recruit that wants to run this sorry excuse for an offensive scheme.

I love the grit and determination these kids show, but until the coaches give them a chance to win and have higher expectations, I tend to think last nights game was a blip rather than an indication of how KU will play the remainder of the year. If TG has been saving it all for K-State, we will soon find out, but I doubt if TG will show us anything different. TG will likely get schooled again by Bill Snyder and staff.

Bion Ostrander 8 years, 3 months ago

And as usual, this KU coaching staff can not and does not make adjustments at half-time, but OU did make adjustments to shut down KU's offense. And that finally caused the KU defense to wear down from being on the field most of the 2nd half. OU figured that out, TG/Long were probably so giddy at half-time they had turned their attention to more important matters like trying to figure out which uniforms and shoes KU would wear during the K-State game!

Doug Merrill 8 years, 3 months ago

A foolish comment. OU is a storied program, ranked top 5 in the nation, with far better recruits by coaches who have been in place for years. It is ridiculous to think that we could have "adjusted" anything at halftime that would have made our offensive line bigger and faster or our defensive line bigger and faster. The "adjustment" is for KU to keep a coaching staff in place long enough to recruit year in year out like this one did last year. If the fanbase can be intelligent enough not to force the AD to make a ridiculous move to fire coaches when the program is rebuilding, then we will get better and better. I saw the real adjustment in our defense, because our players played as well as they could, and credit the captain...and coaches.

Andy Tweedy 8 years, 3 months ago

I think that's the wrong way to look at this effort. When a team has a gigantic talent advantage, it takes an adjustment to have any success at all. My take is that the adjustments were made BEFORE the game and proved to be pretty successful. At some point, talent simply catches up to any adjustments made by the coaching staff. The second half was talent coming to the surface. Not sure there was much any coaching staff could have done to turn aside what I think almost everybody thought of as inevitable.

Steve Brown 8 years, 3 months ago

Half time adjustments, consider changing up hand sideline signals at the half, mis direct the team reading our signals.

dougr 8 years, 3 months ago

The defensive effort, for the most part, was outstanding. Too many busted pass coverages (big plays), too many receivers able to outrun the coverage. When KU manages to sustain its first half effort for an entire game, they will arrive. Jordan always does great things I just felt like he was rushing his throws a bit, not setting his feet before throwing the football, as a result the ball sailed high a number of times and fell short too often. I don't buy it that OU held anything back. No coach in his right mind would ever do that and call himself or his team winners. Our punter overall does a great job but he's establishing a pattern of at least one kick off the side of his foot a game. KU seemed to lose a step when the miss-kick happened and OU capitalized on it.
Special teams gave up too many yards on kickoffs. As for OU, they're a solid bunch but they live and die by the pass, that could haunt them later. Overall, much improved effort in the first half, return to mediocrity in the second half. We really beat ourselves after half-time. It shouldn't matter if there are 50,000 fans or one, there has to be an 'all out' effort for the entire game. The KU band, reached a level higher than its been all year. The drumline was tight and the percussion line was awesome, the entire band reminded us why we never walk away from any competition with our heads down. Big Jay, little Jay, the cheerleaders and the dance team, rock!!! What kind of day is it? It's a great day to be a Jayhawk! Keep working, its fun watching everyone mature. We're relieved and thrilled to hear that the injured player will be fine. Who's next and how much better will we get? Look, it seems only 30 points separate us from the best college football has to offer. Believe, you will get there!

As for my Denver Broncos, welcome Mr. Tebow. (lol)

Doug Rodriguez Williams Fund Member Lawrence, KS

voiceofreason2 8 years, 3 months ago

Define a "moral victory" for me. If it involves losing by ONLY 30 to the #3 ranked team in the nation then I think I'll move to Buffalo, because that would fit perfectly with the expectation there.

We seem to be overlooking the score in some desperate hope find any signs of life by TG and staff. I don't want to take anything away from the "improvement" of the defense. I mean, after all, they only scored 45 right? Not 70, or 66. And this was against the #3. So that must show improvement. Because, after all, they were expected to lose by 40 or more.

Let's face it. OU had no reason to do anything but "show up" to this game. They appeared to play half speed all night. Except for the 2nd half, when they decided they probably oughtta pick it up a little and at least make it a decided victory for sake of their rank. And, they probably figured that would be easy since they know KU never makes any halftime adjustments. I wonder what Stoops' practice was like for the prior week? "So...what do you guys wanna do? Let's uh....go run a little...and...uh...I don't know...Landry, you wanna throw a couple balls?"

This is in no way, shape or form a victory of any kind. We did what was expected of us...we lost...by 30. For a "moral victory" of KU standards, we should have pulled something off that nobody was expecting. That's what you do when you are overlooked. What's sad is that everybody still thinks we did that after losing by 30. Something unexpected would have been a stunning win, or at least, a close game that shocked the nation. Particularly against an OU team that was busy preparing for their next "real" game against a "real" opponent.

Come on Jayhawk Nation. Turner Gill was never the answer nor will he be. If he was, he would have shocked us with something by now. He hasn't. He hasn't even lived up to expectations. We beat GT last year. That shouldn't overshadow the loss to NDST, or all of the lopsided losses we've had. North Dakota State did to us something like what WE should have done to an unexpecting team at this point. This isn't going to get better. How long do we have to give him? His recruits and players have shown they have some talent, not 5 star talent, but talent nonetheless. What they lack is knowing what to do with it...and that, my friends, is due to coaching.

gardenjay 8 years, 3 months ago

I hoped KU would win - I predicted KU 72 OU 69 in an offensive battle. I was way off, but found a lot to be happy with in improved defense-out-of-nowhere, and sure had fun watching the game including the second half, and don't feel I let my team down as a fan.

boknowssports 8 years, 3 months ago

props to you voice, the sooner we make a change the better. no way this guy is worth the money we pay him. He is paid more than 7 b-12 coaches. he went from 450 K to 2 mill. Makes more than Snyder and Gundy. 167K per week, you got to be kiddn me. Guess that buys a lot of kool aide!

Ethan Berger 8 years, 3 months ago

If all you get from the game is the final score, then you did not watch the games. In college sports, you can have "moral victories." We are talking about a team that just last week, was scored on 56 by half. Then the team stays within 16 through the first 3 quarters. OU has many pro players on their team, we might have 5. We are a team filled with 18/19 yr olds against 22/23 year old. Go read some columns, many pros talk about how KU showed alot more. It was a 30 point final score, but alot closer then it indicated.

gardenjay 8 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, K-State is such a hot school when it comes to building football programs

Ethan Berger 8 years, 3 months ago

Kansas has a pulse. Saturday night's game against Oklahoma turned out to not be R-rated television, censored for violence. Kansas lost convincingly, but the Jayhawks showed up and hung with the Sooners for most of the game. This was certainly not expected after Kansas gave up 66 points to Georgia Tech and 70 to Oklahoma State last week, and found themselves at the bottom of college football in total defense and scoring defense. Look past the final score, and you might see progress for Turner Gill's team at Kansas. Can they continue it next week in a rivalry game against Kansas State? The Wildcats won last year's game 59-7.

ESPN David Ubben

Ethan Berger 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm not a gill supporter nor a hater. The fact that there are many articles out there like this and many fans still whine makes me sick. I have my concerns about Gill, like the whole setting records on how bad our defense is. But last night we actually showed a heartbeat. When gill inherited this program, it finished last in the big 12. We our defense really improve last night. For one, they tackled. We are bad, so when your this bad, you have to find something to build on. No one builds a house on sand...

texashawk10 8 years, 3 months ago

Here's what I saw last night from the game. I saw what was expected of an elite defense going against an average offense. I consider KU's offense to be average because of an above average running game and a subpar passing game. KU gained nearly half their yards on 3 plays, the busted play to Sims, the busted play to Lewis, and the heave to Beshears. Those three plays accounted for 118 out of KU's 252 yards of offense (47%).

On defense, I saw the best open field tackling display from a KU team since the 2007 seasons. This defense kept KU within striking distance until there was about 10 minutes left when Broyles caught his second TD. I also saw a KU defense force 2 Oklahoma turnovers (the Broyles fumble was great to see, but that was on Broyles) which doubled their season total. I also saw a pick six that I believe Michael Reynolds dropped which definitely would've swung momentum in KU's favor. I'm not 100% sure though it was Reynolds that dropped that screen pass, but I believe it was #55. The defense was helped out by OU not finding it's stride offensively until the 4th quarter, but the defense was able to take advantage of OU's miscues more than they had against anybody else this season. To me, that was the biggest positive for the defense yesterday as prior to yesterday, the ineptness of the defense didn't make opposing offenses pay for their mistakes.

There are 3 things that I believe would give this team much better results. A consistent passing game would significantly help the running game and KU's second half woes. A consistent pass rush (not necessarily sacks) would force QB's to make quicker passes increasing the chances of a DB jumping the route and it would force QB's out of the pocket and have to make more off-balance passes which tend to be much less accurate. The third is improved play from the safety position which is getting better. It's not great by any stretch of the imagination yet, two things have me encouraged about that position now. I was glad to see Lubbock Smith getting the vast majority of the reps because I don't think Keeston Terry ever should've started over Smith this year and I hope Smith is the starter getting most of the reps from here on out. McDougald is getting better by the game and is starting to show the potential at safety that got him offers from places like Wisconsin, Mich. St., and Ohio St. He's flashed moments of brilliance in every game so far and is showing promise to be one of the better ball-hawks next season as he gets more experience at the position. Yesterday was only his 8th start at safety, but he's getting better game by game which is encouraging.

Bear86 8 years, 3 months ago

OU hang over game. KU still gave up 600 yards on Defense. The D held OU to Field Goals (Moral Victory) vs TD's on multiple possessions or the score would have been much higher for the Sooners. 2nd Half Offense??? Didn't expect a win but can't get to excited about a 30 point loss. F-Texas!

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