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Monday, October 3, 2011

Turner Gill insists KU defense ‘better’

Kansas safety Keeston Terry celebrates his interception against Texas Tech during the first quarter on Saturday, Oct. 1, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

Kansas safety Keeston Terry celebrates his interception against Texas Tech during the first quarter on Saturday, Oct. 1, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

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A little more than 24 hours after watching his team squander a 20-0 lead and drop its second straight game, Kansas University football coach Turner Gill made a bold statement.

“I do believe that our defense did play better than what they had played,” Gill said.

The statistics don’t necessarily show that. In falling 45-34 to Texas Tech on Saturday at Memorial Stadium, the Jayhawks gave up 530 yards of total offense, including 366 yards and four touchdowns through the air. It marked the third time this season the KU defense had surrendered more than 315 yards passing. The only game in which KU (2-2) did not allow opponents to top that mark came in a Week 3 loss to Georgia Tech in which the Yellow Jackets set multiple school records on the ground.

So where exactly did the improvement come? Gill said the Jayhawks were better in a few areas.

“I thought we did make a lot more tackles,” he said. “We obviously still didn’t make enough. But (we play) some good teams and some good players, and they’re gonna make you miss some tackles. There were some good things. There just weren’t enough.”

Gill also pointed to the individual play of safety Keeston Terry and linebacker Malcom Walker as other areas of improvement for the Kansas defense. Terry, a red-shirt freshman, tied for the team lead in tackles with 12 and also picked up KU’s first interception of the season. Walker, a junior-college transfer, finished tied for second with eight tackles.

Despite playing his best game of the year, Terry was not willing to go as far as his head coach in saying the defense played better Saturday. The free safety from Blue Springs, Mo., said he sensed a drop in energy once Texas Tech started rolling and that the Jayhawks would have to address that and play with passion for four quarters before real progress can be claimed.

“I don’t know if someone’s gotta light a fire under us or what,” Terry said. “But we just have to figure it out. If not, the same result’s gonna happen over and over again.”

Like Gill, defensive coordinator Vic Shealy said he thought the KU defense made progress Saturday. But Shealy also said his unit took a few steps back at times.

“We need to go forward and stay forward,” Shealy said.

Asked how he expected that to happen: “It’s not rocket science,” Shealy said. “It’s about identifying what they’re doing, making a decision why the breakdown occurred and then drawing it up so your players see visually what happened and how you’re gonna correct it. Is it a call or is it just execution? A lot of it’s just executing better.”

For the most part, that falls on the players.

“Somebody’s gotta step up and make a play to get us off the field,” Shealy said.

With the frustration of another lopsided outcome fresh in their minds, Gill was asked Sunday if the message that his defense was improving had become a tough sell.

“We all know,” he said. “The tape doesn’t lie. They can see it and look at it.”

RB Miller OK

Gill said he expected freshman tailback Darrian Miller to be available for Saturday’s game at Oklahoma State.

Miller, who caught a 25-yard pass on the second play from scrimmage against Texas Tech, did not play after the reception because of a tweaked hamstring. Although the Jayhawks continue to evaluate Miller’s injury, Gill said he planned to have him this weekend.

“He’s fine,” Gill said. “He’s going to be available. We just don’t know how much he’s going to be able to go. We gotta make some decisions about whether we want to do it on a week-to-week basis or try to give him a little bit longer time to heal. But he’ll be available.”

Gill said the Jayhawks suffered no other significant injuries Saturday.

“There’s no one at this point in time that I can say is gonna be out for this next ballgame,” said Gill of the Jayhawks’ 2:30 p.m. Saturday match-up at Oklahoma State. “We came out of here pretty well as far as injuries.”

Cowboys big favorites

Oklahoma State (4-0) opened as a 29-point favorite against the Jayhawks when Sunday’s point spreads were released.

By Sunday night, the line had moved to as high as OSU minus 33 points in some spots.

Oklahoma State enters the game ranked sixth in the nation, with victories over Louisiana-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulsa and Texas A&M. The Cowboys were off last weekend, giving them two weeks to prepare for the Jayhawks.

Comments

boknowssports 2 years, 6 months ago

well there is no Big 12 North. I hope he learns how to recruit defense players. So far....not so hot....

hey, he did not do too well in the Mac. why did they go downhill after the one winning season? his recruiting skills fall off?

I'm with Kirk above, Gill needs more non-BCS experience. He is not ready for a BCS conference. 5 years???? sheesh, I sure hope he is not here that long. at 3-9 per year we will be 15-45.....yikes!

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Jason Keller 2 years, 6 months ago

I can't believe some of you fools still believe college football success has to do with coaching. Oh yeah, Saban and Stoops teach their kids better techniques which allow them to anihilate opposing teams...

Today's game is purely recruiting... PURELY

Turner Gill is THE best recruiter in the Big 12 North and nearly the best recruiter in the Big 12, you can take that to the bank. The man has credibility after what he has done playing and coaching in Nebraska. He also has modern connections in the league partially due to his time with the Packers. After last season and the general perception of KU football, the recruiting class he got this year is unbelievable.

The fact is, parents love him and the kids respect him. If KU can manage to stay in a major conference, Turner Gill will have us in a BCS bowl game by year 5. You can take that to the bank too.

We lucked out by landing Turner Gill. Soon you will all see.

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esque 2 years, 6 months ago

Vic Shealy is not, nor was he ever the linebacker's coach at KU, that title previously belonged to Carl Torbush. Shealy was and still is the cornerback's coach in addition to being named co-defensive coordinator. Per his bio, he previously held the title of Defensive Coordinator at UNLV as well as Air Force Academy. I wish some of you complainers would at least get your facts straight before launching your rants. You all complain about all of the same things every single week, without displaying any real knowledge of football in particular, building athletic teams in general.

All you who complain about mediocrity and how Gill is bringing the program down but refuse to look at the whole picture of Mangino's tenure are being especially disingenuous at best, flat out hypocritical at worst. How about trying patience, the other approach clearly isn't working for you.

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KSseahawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Wow..."I don't know if someone's gotta light a fire under us or what." Guess I thought that's what TGill was paid $2MM per annum to do. Silly me...

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TwistedFish31 2 years, 6 months ago

What is disturbing wasn't the unis or even the come from behind victory by tech. It is Gill's constant pampering of his players and his coaches. Mangino would have ripped his DC a new one and would have been chewing some players buttts! And the wimpier of the KU fans will say "Yeah but he was a big fat meanie!". I watch other Division 1 coaches out there and they are up in their players grills and they respond. We, unfortunately, have a good man as a coach, but not a good coach.

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741hawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Those unis on Sat. were powder blue or Carolina blue. The uniforms of the '61 team were Columbia Blue (more grey) and included Helmets, Jerseys and Pants.

Just a good example of the program right now. It was cheap not to do the whole uniform, and even then the athletic department couldn't even get the color correct. It was, I thought, an awful insult to a truly great Jayhawk team.

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741hawk 2 years, 6 months ago

No. Those unis were powder blue or Carolina blue. The uniforms of the '61 team were Columbia Blue (more grey) and included Helmets, Jerseys and Pants.

Just a good example of the program right now. It was cheap not to do the whole uniform, and even then the athletic department couldn't even get the color correct. It was, I thought, an awful insult to a truly great team.

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Jayhawk838 2 years, 6 months ago

WE NEED NEAL BURCHAM!!!!! Not sure why we didn't go after this kid this summer. MVP of Elite11 camp and only has offers from Cinni and SMU. He is unreal and only a 3 star, a real sleeper.

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Andy Tweedy 2 years, 6 months ago

Oh, one more thing! Does everybody hate those uniforms? I kind of like them. I wouldn't want to wear them very often, but for a throwback I thought they were kind of cool! I remember the Kerwin Bell teams of the early '80s wearing powder blue, too.

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rob4lb 2 years, 6 months ago

Whether anyone likes it or not, I see Gill staying at least through next season. In watching the game, I don't think enough is being said about the mistakes. Granted, after taking a 20-0 lead, Tech outscored KU 41-7, but it shouldn't have been that bad. The turnovers were costly. I had a great seat and Jordan Webb constantly threw into double coverage. I go the impression the offense's confidence was shaken after the quick start.

The offense stalled several times in the second half. It was a warm day and the defense had to be gassed. Tech wisely went into a hurry up offense. We missed a field goal which had we made it, would have cut the margin to a one possession game. Offfensively, I would have liked to see more safer plays like outlet passes to the backs and see if they could use their quickness to get a big gain.

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Scut Farkus 2 years, 6 months ago

Why do so many of you think Gill is on his way out? First and foremost, KU cannot afford to pay the $7M balance on his contract. Also, Zenger likes him and Zenger is a football guy (and former coach) who understands and preaches patience. As Zenger stated last Spring, “You have to project forward into the future. There are situations where coaches were at a tipping point and the administration was just patient enough with that coach that he was able to push the program over the edge in the right direction." I think Gill is at that tipping point. Let's see how he handles the rest of the season.

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boknowssports 2 years, 6 months ago

It will be interesting to see how our offense does when we play some tough B-12 defenses...Mizzou, K-State, Oklahoma, Texas. If we hang 25 on those folks, okay I think we have something. Conversely, it will be interesting to see how our defense does against Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Oklahoma....this could get ugly....

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Andy Tweedy 2 years, 6 months ago

Here's my shot at this. A new coach has to be given 3 years to succeed, ESPECIALLY at a place like Kansas. Personally, I think the fact that the offense is light years ahead of last year is pretty amazing. And this week included, the special teams seem to be improving. It is certainly true that the defense is a complete mess, but I really do feel that is mainly because HCTG was left no and has recruited no defensive linemen. My best guess is that one or two of last year's OL recruits will end up there. But this program is in desperate need of JUCO help on the DL, and I'm hopeful we will get it. As for the defensive coaching, I feel like coaching can only hide a lack of talent for so long. In this week's game, that was precisely one quarter. Once there is more talent on defense, I imagine the halftime adjustments will be more noticeable. I think we need to give Gill this year and next, and I truly believe we will see more improvement.

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boknowssports 2 years, 6 months ago

So if we got 2-10, will all the Gill lovers consider this year an improvement over last year's 3-9?

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 6 months ago

Okay...Let's Talk about HCTG and his Salary. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-coaches-contracts-table.htm These are 2010 numbers. He was the 21st Highest paid coach. I realize that there are probably a few higher because teams like Notre Dame don't report (private).

He made about $2.1MM in 2010, notice he made $1,200 more than Bo Pellini. He makes more than Steve Spurrier, Mike Gundy, Bill Snyder, Mike Sherman, and Jimbo Fisher.

Almost more than $500k more than Gary Patterson,$600K more than Tommy Tubberville and Chris Peterson. $800k more than Mike Stoops, Rick Neuhasahen, Kyle Wittingham.

He makes $25k less than Frank Beamer.

Jim Tressel made $3.8MM, I wonder if he would be available for a discount.

All those who say we aren't investing we did, the question is did we invest in the right guy?

Over a $1MM more than Dave Wannestahnt,

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hihawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Mangino will be the best coach that KU will ever have and now its gone, and with the conference in a shakey position, the basketball program may follow.

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Phoghorn 2 years, 6 months ago

Conventional wisdom suggests that Mangino had one great season, and several average ones. It is even more simple than that. In 2007 we won some close games, in most of Mangino's other seasons we lost close games.

Don't get me wrong, Coach Mangino did improve our program, but let us not think he was the second coming of Knute Rockne. He took a terrible program, made it mediocre, and then let it slide back to terrible.

The most troubling aspect of Mangino's tenure was the lack of recruiting following the Orange Bowl victory. There are a couple possible reasons.

  1. Rumor had already spread about Mangino's tactics. Please don't start with the fact that other coaches are tough - show me pictures of burnt hands under Coach Tom Osborne or Coach Bear Bryant. Show me testimony of Coach Paterno or Coach Schnellenberger dropping F-bombs on their secretaries.

  2. Coach Mangino thought that he would quickly get picked up by a "big" football program and did not try too hard to get the big recruits.

Finally, once the allegations were out, KU had no choice but to get rid of Mangino. The recruiting had slowed to a trickle, but the allegations would have shut the spigot off completely. I am still on the fence about Coach Gill. I like his positive attitude and I hope it will translate to wins on the field after his recruits have a couple years of playing. Either way, he is our coach, and I will support him while he is here.

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Dyrk Dugan 2 years, 6 months ago

Turrner Gill is going to be the coach the rest of this year, and for sure next year....he has to have a chance to get his guys in, and stabilize the defense.

i would say he gets four years at least...he is getting paid $2 million/year....we can't buy him out this quickly.

we are on our 4th d-coordinator in five years....we're also on our 4th defensive line coach in five years...only this year, did we have the same d-line coach as the previous. there is no continuity on defense whatsover. plus, you are breaking in a guy, who had no major college coordinating experience at all. Remember, Torbush basically retired at the beginning of June. we really had no choice to promote someone, based on the time of year.

and given the fact that we are just now getting our LB numbers up...plus the d-line...and our secondary is totally inexperienced...this all adds up to shoddy defense. think about it: only two recruited LBs played last year....two. and both were seniors, and after significant injuries in college, they couldn't run.

i've said all along, based on our defense, and the improvement in our offense, that our record would be similar or worse than the year before...but we WOULD be a better ballclub. i was hoping for 4-8, and i still am. shootout games are still possible with a number of opponents....and with an IMPROVED D and kicking game, we could win a couple.

we can't get bogged down as KU fans, of comparing apples and oranges....past eras, coaches, other programs....KU football may be the only program in America, with a dominant basketball school...that its fans and the media expect every year to go to bowl games, and compete for league titles. it's just not going to happen.

and if we change coaches again this quick, it FOR SURE won't happen. who will coach here, when you can't bring your recruits in? or solidify your staff? Dan McCarney at ISU in the 90s didn't have a winning SEASON ...until year six...and then he rattled of six in a row.

Mangino went the JUCO route...he brought in a JUCO QB, and JUCO D-line and LBs....and we had some success early. but he still didn't have a winning season until year four....and didn't go to back to back bowl games...until years six and seven.

this coach deserves his time at the helm...to guide the ship his way. if he sinks, he sinks...but at least deserves several years at sea.

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Andy Hess 2 years, 6 months ago

Love the headline. "Better." Better than what? Better than a high school team?

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 6 months ago

I think that I would take T. Gill as an Offensive Coordinator assuming we brought in someone to handle the defensive measures.

It should be noted, that of our 8 committed recruits next year, two are on the defensive side. One Defensive End (Yes!!! - 3 Star) and an unranked Cornerback. I know we are still in the running for some DE and DT, I just hope we can land about 4-5 of them.

I know I am and have been negative about HCTG, but my biggest complaint is when Torbush retired, we didn't go looking for someone that had experience. Vic Shealy is a linebackers' coach and needed oversight, he isn't ready to take an underperforming Defense and make it better. Don't tell me there aren't people that are available. We need a defensive coordinator and we don't have one. IF HCTG can't see that we need additional help in Defense, that is on him, and is the biggest sign that there is a problem with the HC.

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kureader 2 years, 6 months ago

Don't agree with Gill. Gill's overlooking the 17 penalties that killed Tech. Yet they still hung 45 on us. KU's defense played a great first quarter ... then, Tech figured us out and kicked our butt. It's probably my imagination, but it seems that other teams are able to adapt as the game progresses ... we get worse.

As for Darrian Miller, he has now hurt his hamstring twice. There's no such thing as a "tweaked hamstring". You don't screw around with a pulled hamstring. We have other backs. Playing with bruised ribs might be toughness, but playing with a pulled hamstring is stupid. Miller needs to stay on the sidelines for a couple weeks and hope he doesn't insure the thing a third time.

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AzNHawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Mangino's record looks like it improved slowly, then took a small dip, then came back up, kept up a bit, then slowly started to decline.

Yeah Funhawk I see where you're going with this. No matter the record, sub par, mediocre, winning or even championship caliber we'll always want to "Fire the coach"

(sarcasm) That is the BEST WAY to keep consistency in a football program.

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daverinoku 2 years, 6 months ago

Just wondering guys...

Shouldn't Gill get credit for the offense, even while taking the blame for the defense? So if the offense is successful, and "ahead of schedule", that means he is not incompetent.

We did lose our DC right before the season, so no time to find a replacement nor change schemes. Plus, we don't appear to have talent there other than maybe TO.

I'm guessing D takes longer to develop. My hope is that we can focus on recruiting D this year, and see immediate success next year, just like we've seen on O.

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Funhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Mangino’s second year was 2003. Being the second year, the team was mostly players recruited by the prior KU coach. We ended up tying for 4th in the Big XII North. Our conference record was 3-5. After losing the Tangerine Bowl, we had a losing record for the season. “Fire the coach!”

Mangino’s third year was 2004. He finished 4-7, tying for 5th in the Big XII North at a conference record of 2-6. When KU played Texas Tech that year, KU had a 25 point lead in the second quarter, went stagnant in the second half because our coach decided to start throwing the ball. We ended up losing to Texas Tech. “Fire the coach!”

Mangino’s fourth year was 2005. We finished 7-5, tying for 5th in the Big XII North at a conference record of 3-5. We went to the Fort Worth Bowl.

Mangino’s final year was 1-7 in conference with senior playmakers, losing the last six games. Mangino’s final KU record was 50 wins and 48 losses. Conference record was 23-41, even a losing record against North teams. Of the 24 games playing Big XII South teams, we lost 20 of them. Thank goodness for Baylor. “Fire the coach!” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Man...

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bradynsdad 2 years, 6 months ago

Quick ku fans, first on to answer this question gets to start as our middle linebacker Saturday. What team holds the record for most points allowed by a defense in a single season and what was the grand total? I still believe in gill but I'm curious to know if we might reach the record. Records must be after 1970.

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Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 6 months ago

Oh, and KU is now the ONLY Big 12 team to not be in the top 25 or have any votes to get in.

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Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 6 months ago

I have no doubt the offense is better than last year.... I haven't seen much to be encouraged about on the other side of the ball, though.

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HawkfromHays 2 years, 6 months ago

Just to put things in perspective, KU is now garnering national attention...for having the worst defense in the country! We are a weekly punchline on College Football Final and other scoreboard shows.

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Joe Baker 2 years, 6 months ago

How long did it take for Mangino to win a bowl game? How many of these recruits are Gills? I believe Gill's freshmen are just now playing. I don't like it either but I want to see his recruits in 1-2 years.

TG- I give you 1-2 years and expect to see some serious results. Stay focused, get to work and stop blowing smoke to the media and fans. Just say it like it is, we are inexperienced and my boys need to time to develop and grow.

Lastly, recruit, recruit, recruit and did I say recruit?

Git r dun

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AzNHawk 2 years, 6 months ago

justinryman - And just who in going to front 8 million dollars to Zenger and Little-Gray in order to buyout Gill's contract?

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AzNHawk 2 years, 6 months ago

I wonder if the Auburn fans were just as impatient, and whining little b^%&*#s and super Anti-Chizik as are these "ku fans" when they hired him.

I mean, he had a poor record at Iowa State, but ended up winning a national championship in what some may call a sketchy and up/down highly publicized way.

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hihawk 2 years, 6 months ago

You said it right there,longtimehawk, I totally agree. Another year with this joker is too long. That's why NU didn't want gill for a coach.

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longtimehawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Staying with a coach that doesn't have it, is a team on the wrong course and this coach doesn't have it.

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Tony Bandle 2 years, 6 months ago

Lack of quality depth on defense hurt, especially against the no-huddle, hurry-up offense.

Frankly I thought it would be the worst football performance I would witness during the weekend......the St.Louis Rams proved me wrong!!

The best football I saw was the Free State Firebirds under the Friday Night Lights!!!

PS If you'll fire Gill, we'll fire Spagnola. :)

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Phoghorn 2 years, 6 months ago

Giving Coach Gill 5 years may, or may not lead to success.

Changing coaches every 2-3 years guarantees failure.

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jrbill67 2 years, 6 months ago

Turner Gill needs to wake up. His defense is awful and his "very good" offense will get outscored every week for the balance of this season.

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AzNHawk 2 years, 6 months ago

AtlJaybird says it like it is. Right on my fellow jayhawk!

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longtimehawk 2 years, 6 months ago

I guess we will find out how good our defence is when Kansas ST. takes us on when we meet. Don't bet on it.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 6 months ago

A big thing everyone is overlooking is that TT suuuuuuuuuuucks. The will finish 8th or below.

As for the points, you could still feel pretty good about 33 points (I got 'em at 29, cha-Ching). But don't think they spent two weeks preparing for us. They spent the bye week looking at ut stuff then will look at us this week.

Also consider the cats for a little easy money this week. They just took care of RG3 and are dogs against mizzou, huh?

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Scut Farkus 2 years, 6 months ago

I'm a little disappointed in Gill. This is not a time for false hope. The defense is terrible. It's time to man up and admit there's a huge amount of work that's needed and that the defensive staff is on notice.

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Kent Wells 2 years, 6 months ago

"We have them surrounded."

  • General George A. Custer
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bradynsdad 2 years, 6 months ago

I know I am one of the few that have faith still in turner and yes it is fading but I still have it. I think our offense and special teams have played great thus far. I mean our offense has been putting up big numbers and our special teams always gives us great field position. Now comes the broken record of our defense. I do believe gill should be looking for a new defensive coordinator. We knew gill would score points because that is his background, but it is time to put all our recruiting efforts into defense. Like I said for our offense being mostly freshmen and sophomores I think they are playing great. If we had a defense I truly believe we would be a dangerous team.

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doolindalton 2 years, 6 months ago

The defense was better, but better than what? The worst defensive performance ever? It's hard to get excited about a team that blows a 20 point lead without a wimper. C'mon, Turner, there's got to be some old d/coordinator hanging around somewhere that you can bring in, if for nothing else just to acknowledge that you realize the team has a desperate problem.

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jartiv 2 years, 6 months ago

Well... TTU was averaging 48 pts a game coming to Lawrence, and we held them to JUST 45!! Success!

Better??? Better Gill?? WHAT?!?!?!

There is so much going wrong with our defense and all the problems come back to coaching. Turner Gill saying that our defense was "better" points out that our coaches don't even think there is a problem.

We are LAST in the country for pts allowed - 44.5

WAKE UP GILL!! WAKE UP!!!

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Keith Hummel 2 years, 6 months ago

I was very impressed with the defensive play in the first half. There is no doubt we improved defensively. We were better covering the screens, quicker to the ball, more aggressive on down-field coverage, and much more physical up front. To play like we did against one of the top offenses in the nation proves how much potential this group has.

Unfortunately, our offense is the group that hurt us in this game. Web was picked off three times, and each turnover led directly to a Texas Tech TD. I saw shades of the 2010 Jordan Webb return in this game. He was throwing into double coverage, not going through his progression, and generally trying to do too much. Honestly, with 4 turnovers it's amazing we only lost by 11. If KU scored on just one of those drives instead of turning the ball over we could have won the game.

But the most damaging thing about the turnover point swing is that they completely gassed our defense. Tech was very smart to speed up their offense in the 2nd half because it exposed the lack of depth and experience in our defense. With that kind of tempo the defenders had to react instinctively, but they couldn't because they don't have the experience. There is nothing anyone (not even the Great Coach Snyder) can do to fix that except be patient. The only remedy for what ails our defense is a ball control offense. But it's kind of difficult to control the ball if you keep giving it away.

Hopefully everyone will calm down a bit on this board today and look at that game rationally. If you do I think you'll agree that we showed major improvement in this game defensively. All I ask at this point is that they continue to improve and continue to compete. If they do that every game I couldn't care less what the final record is this year because I know what it will do for us next year.

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fljayhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Gill may be the coach BUT that's one man's opinion! And I don't remember the Jayhawks ever wearing that powder blue 50 yrs ago. I graduated in 1959.

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 6 months ago

I know the over/under is now at 32, but how about the over/under on yards against KU in this game.

I'm going with 825, you know they have 768 posted on their wall and their goal is to get more than that.

Weeden to Blackmon is going to be a phrase that is going to kill me all game long.

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jhox 2 years, 6 months ago

If we had half of a defensive line, we'd be much better. It is difficult to stop teams when the QB has all day to sit back there and pick out a receiver. The defensive line situation was poor when Gill took over, and it is no better now. Let's hope the focus on recruiting next year begins on the defensive line.

As for Saturday's game, take away our turnovers and it's a coin toss who wins. We're still giving up way too many long plays, but the offense is pretty good (other than the turnovers). The defense was better. We forced a few punts this week, for a change. Unfortunately, there is only so much a coach can do when he doesn't have any horses on the defensive line. The loss of Torbush also hurt. He did a nice job making half time adjustments last year. Shealy is not getting the job done in that respect.

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blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Loved the unis. Far better than our regular ones.

The team looked good for a half and we were playing without one of our top offensive weapons. Turnovers took us out of the game as much as anything - Webb's bad one on our side of the field, the fluky one in the end zone that stopped a drive and the dropped punt.

Keep Darian out as long as you need to, coach. We'll miss him but his long term value to KU is far more important than playing at Stinkwater.

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ExerSciHawk 2 years, 6 months ago

Personally I love it, I thought the D covered the screen passes well and at least disrupted the play, that Tech offense had some players but we are a much improved team... the offense is definitely capable and the D will get there with time/experience.... this is Kansas Football, not Florida, we will never be BCS bowl bound every year, we have to be patient and let the system work... even if/when Gill gets his program running, we'll still be going .600 on the season, some years better, some years worse... as Kansas football fans we can't really expect much more... be glad we have a blueblood basketball program, most schools have to cheer for FB and BB teams that both just are middle-of-the-road every year and they just look forward to "better" seasons here and there

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Cmill1221 2 years, 6 months ago

Gill has no clue what is going on. I had very little hope for KU football w/ gill in the driver seat. After this Saturday and seeing that Boise State statue of liberty play on 4th and 2 on the tech 3 FAIL and only go for 1 yard I now have NO HOPE for ku football with this clown coaching. I literally laughed out loud at how bad it was!! Then I could not help but feel absolutly heartbroken for the kids who need to suffer playing for this guy and for jayhawk fans all over who are forced to watch this disaster.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 6 months ago

We forced 5 punts! That is improvement. Doege's completion % and YPA were worse than Picks - tho the INT's were 3-1. Also TT had twice as many penalties and yardage as KU. Some people say that is coaching, and yet most of those people also say we would be better off with Tubs. Lastly, we are a PAT, missed FG, and a goal line stand away from a tie game in spite of the 3 INT's and missing our #2 RB. This team has come a long ways.

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gardenjay 2 years, 6 months ago

I like different shades of blue, but I agree that shade has to go.

I did like the improved defense, however. Not sure what they did in particular, and there were lapses - but what an improvement over GT!!!!

If TT played GT, I doubt they would lose, it might be a close game. Playing in front of KU fans is kind of like an away game, so I was really impressed. I don't think HCTG should listen to the griping people, he has a long term plan and is executing it to perfection through recruitment and not killing his players. Go jayhawks!!!

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Ferd Magellan 2 years, 6 months ago

Who knows, maybe this will be the game (like GT last year) that we were supposed to lose by multiple scores, but we keep it close or win. It'll probably require ten Okie Lite turnovers, but there's always some hope for a major letdown by an opponent.

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Dan Pawlowski 2 years, 6 months ago

Well one this is for sure. Those powder blue Uniforms are not only not Kansas Colors they also don't strike fear in the opposition.

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Alex Berger 2 years, 6 months ago

Well, he is right. You can't get much worse than KU @ GT.

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