Friday, May 27, 2011

Josh Selby seeks to prove he ‘deserves’ shot

Former Kansas guard proves he’s healthy with 42-inch vertical leap

Kansas guard Josh Selby pounds his chest after hitting a three-pointer against Texas A&M during the first half on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Josh Selby pounds his chest after hitting a three-pointer against Texas A&M during the first half on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.


Former Kansas University combo guard Josh Selby, who worked out for the Minnesota Timberwolves on Tuesday and Indiana Pacers on Thursday, has taken a humble, low-key approach into a month’s worth of individual drills with NBA teams.

“The biggest thing I need to show is I deserve to be here like everyone else,” Selby told after Thursday’s workout with Purdue’s JaJuan Johnson, Villanova’s Corey Fisher, Richmond’s Justin Harper, Michigan’s Darius Morris and Georgetown’s Chris Wright in Indianapolis.

“People were questioning me because of what happened at Kansas. I need to show what happened at Kansas wasn’t the real me. I was going through things, of course the injury (to foot) and suspension (nine games to start season). I’m just trying to showcase my game.”

Selby, who averaged 7.9 points, 2.2 assists and 2.2 rebounds a game during his freshman season, is completely healthy now. He showed that by recording an amazing vertical leap of 42 inches at last week’s NBA combine.

“At Kansas I was about 75, 80 percent. Now I’m 110 percent. It’s a big difference. I didn’t know I’d be suspended nine games. My first game was a great game,” Selby said of a 21-point outing versus USC. “After that, I didn’t know I’d have an injury. It pushed me back farther than I wanted to be. I’m just glad to be back.”’s Chad Ford believes Selby will be selected No. 17 overall by the New York Knicks in the June 23 Draft. has Selby as the the first pick of the second round by Miami. The Pacers have the No. 15 pick in Round One, the Timberwolves Nos. 2 and 20.

“I can score. I will compete. I will play hard. No matter if I am shooting bad or shooting good, I will compete the same,” Selby said. “I am never going to lower my level of competitiveness.”

He said he isn’t quite sure where he’s projected to play in the NBA.

“I don’t know what they are thinking,” he said of NBA officials who grouped him with shooting guards at the NBA combine. “They ask me what I think my position is. I tell them right now I’m a combo guard and I just go from there.”


REHawk 2 years, 11 months ago

Best of luck and fortune to you, Josh. Please, never forget that for a brief time you were a Kansas Jayhawk. You, your team, coaches and fanbase shared some shining moments. When the dust settles and you have claimed a portion of your early hoops promise, come back home to Lawrence for occasional visits. Orchestrate another grand appearance to set The Phog to rumbling!


chriz 2 years, 11 months ago

Gosh, it would've been nice to see Selby play the rest of the season like he did before he injured himself. I thinking it's obvious that he took it easy on himself the later part of the season. And I can't say I blame him. I really hope he does well in the NBA and I think he carried himself very well while at KU.


martyks 2 years, 11 months ago

Wow... an embarrassment to Jayhawk nation? I've only gone to 24 consecutive Late Nights... lol... I know, doesn't mean anything, but simply because a kid comes here doesn't make him a Jayhawk. He had people in his ear the entire time who thought he should jump to the pros from day one. He was using us to get his dream, playing in the NBA. So, good luck. But this still stands as the question. If he wasn't the most hyped, biggest disappointment in KU history, who was? That's all I'm saying. Like I say, I have watched a lot of KU players come and go. No one else, in my mind, comes close to making the top of that list.... Chenowith? He was a star compared to Josh. Givens (sp?) well, yeah, pretty much a bust, but as big of a disappointment? Sorry. So, you think Josh was so good... Name someone... just one.


Kent Kossoy 2 years, 11 months ago

Amazing. I personally do not care if he does well or fails like he did at KU. I think it was a wasted scholarship that could have been used for someone who has heart to play the game. Unfortunately we seem to be moving in the direction of the one and done player. Sad because years ago I was challenged by a colleague of mine who would bitch about KU vs Duke players. And I could win the debate. Now I have a friend who constantly squawks about UNC/Roy, remember him, and even he can recruit a better quality player now. What happened to the ole Bill Self?? We were doing okay the first 6 years of his tenure. College basketball is going downhill. And with our great football program, I would say that doesn't bode well for KU. As far as I am concerned, if you took Xavier's and Selby's statistics out of the KU listing, our status would probably be elevated!!


KEITHMILES05 2 years, 11 months ago

I sure hope Josh can do well in the league. Everything at KU is documented and if he can attain a good spot in the draft that will bode well for him and for KU recruting.


lhohman3 2 years, 11 months ago

Ralster, You win. Josh Selby is the next Paul Pierce. In fact, the only difference between Josh Selby and Paul Pierce is that Josh Selby is a much better team leader and would look much more attractive in the color Green. Josh Selby also has far better ball-handling skills than Chris Paul and is also quicker than Rajon Rondo….All because he can jump incredibly high without anybody guarding him.

So can JR Giddens.

So could Rodrick Stewart.

So could Kenny Gregory.

So did Harold Minor of USC Fame. (Harold jumped so high they used to call him "baby Jordan.")

I forget.....What NBA teams do these guys play for again?

It makes my heart go pitter-patter to learn how much you treasure that KU/USC game. I’m sure keeping that valuable piece of memorabilia will forever serve as a sentimental reminder of Josh's mind-boggling Legacy @ KU and unmistakable eventual NBA stardom....Let's just call him Danny Manning II from here on out. Okay by you tough guy?

Sadly, Josh Selby probably doesn’t hold his USC ticket with the high esteem you feel it deserves.

Sadly, Josh Selby probably sold his USC ticket 15 minutes before tip-off.


Ralster Jayhawk 2 years, 11 months ago

If I ever meet Josh Selby, I would tell him I am a KU alumni and that many of us KU people will always be pulling for his success! I would tell him to never mind the people (any people) that dont believe in you. All you can do is try to 'turn' their view by proving your success. I was at the USC game. That game ticket, by sheer happenstance, was Josh's turn to be the player-photo on the ticket. I shall keep that ticket in my KU curio case...and I know exactly why. Soon everyone will also.



lhohman3 2 years, 11 months ago

He was the best player on the court during USC game. He won the game for KU vs. CAL. And had an All-American type of performance in the 1st half vs. Colorado....Then he got hurt....Got in his own way….And was never the same.

Not very mature (yet.) Might never be.

If the NBA Draft happened today, Selby would be voted “Most likely to have a gigantic neck tattoo of a Jimmy Hendricks or Malcolm X within the next 5 years.”

Good-bye. Good luck. Good riddance. Don’t let the door kick you on the way out of town, boss.


hawks1fan 2 years, 11 months ago

i still say he's not ready but i would be impressed if he proved me wrong cause i didn't see anything this year to say that he was ready to play in the NBA


lhohman3 2 years, 11 months ago

STOP. NO MORE. CAN’T TAKE IT. He's not a point guard! It's that simple. Has anyone on this site actually watched Selby try to dribble and set up an offense?
It’s like trying to teach fly fishing to an epileptic…It’s horrible....I hate to be blunt, but he’s simply not smart enough to play PG. Certain people on this site want to keep trying to make these comparisons to Rose or Knight or Wall, but he just isn't that type of player. You put the ball in Selby's hands and force him to run any NBA offense for an entire game, and he'll be averaging 19 TO's. It's not a knock. He's just a short 2. (Like Sherron)
He mostly thrives whenever he's thinking less and reacting more, spotted-up on the wing and breaking down a slower/taller 2 guard.
From everything I've been reading about Selby/NBA Draft, the one glaring problem scouts are having with his overall game is that he's a Tweener. His size is perfect for a typical PG but his handle isn't even slightly good. But his potential skill-set at the 2 is off the charts, and this is the one constant keeping NBA scouts drooling -- but you just wish he was like, 3 inches taller. I think eventually he's going to be a fairly nice back-up 2. If he has as much success as Mario Chalmers, he should consider himself extremely lucky. Granted, his physical tools and raw talent suggest much bigger aspirations by the time he's 25-27, akin to Sam Cassel or Jason Terry, but ultimately his desire to get better will probably wane (like it did @ KU) and his dominance (or lack there-of) will ultimately translate to someone closer to Deshawn Stevenson. Aka. 20Min./gm back-up combo guard + defensive specialist.


Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 11 months ago

well sure, he deserves a shot, but so does everyone...

I think his statement about being at 75-80% at KU and now he's 110% is a bunch of hogwash... He made twitter statements like that all the time last year only to wig out again.

Anyway Josh, hope you do better than Xavier Henry is... but I doubt it.


Fortesque Beagleton 2 years, 11 months ago

Selby was never interested in being a Jayhawk. He used the program and exposure that it brings to further his own interests. He could have proven my theory wrong by sticking around another year with his, uhmm, unfortunate season. However he's simply used the crimson and blue to take him where he wants to go. He's never been about the team. Always "me first". Sure I bet he genuinely liked his coaches and teammates but don't doubt for a moment that he's ever been looking out for anybody but #1. One and dones like Selby ought to play at mid-majors and middling BCS conference programs. There they can make a bigger splash and contribute towards the overall success of the program, much like Beasly did at KSUck. Selby was never better than fourth best gaurd on this team - injury or not. I wish him luck but in my eyes he never was nor will be a true Jayhawk.


JayHodge24 2 years, 11 months ago

hopefully Josh u can get it done in the NBA. But this one and done rule should be changed. Either move the minimum age to learn 21 or just get rid of the rule all together. Hopefully the new collective bargaining agreement will adjust this rule. Now lets get started on a great 2012 CLASS


bradyporningstar 2 years, 11 months ago

jaybate is a freaking idiot!! are you serious!! a hair shy of drose!?!? quicker!?!? yeah right man, i hope he does great, but lets be realistic


danno1313 2 years, 11 months ago

It would ve been nice if Ol' Josh could ve use that vertical to defend a few of those three pointers that VCU shot in. His feet appeared to be in concrete!

Just saying....



cobweb 2 years, 11 months ago

Blame the stupid rules, not kids like Selby.


Jeeveshawk 2 years, 11 months ago

I like Josh and wish him the best of luck but who gives a damn if he can jump pretty high. Yes it is impressive but he needs to prove he can score like he did against USC and Cal, and @ Colorado.


Jeeveshawk 2 years, 11 months ago

I like Josh and wish him the best of luck but who gives a damn if he can jump pretty high. Yes it is impressive but he needs to prove he can score like he did against USC and Cal, and @ Colorado.


tauck 2 years, 11 months ago

Good luck to Josh I for one am getting sick real quick of these one and dones. Maybe the worst rule ever implemented. Move the age to 21 and be done with this mess


theend 2 years, 11 months ago

I think he would have been better off "proving he deserves a shot" by sticking arund another year to show what he could do in college. We never saw his potential at KU.....a few brief moments but not much.

Well Josh.....we barely knew you. Good luck, I guess.....whatever. I doubt you will think about KU much in the future.....and I doubt we will think of you.



Jack Wilson 2 years, 11 months ago

FreddyinLA: Selby over Wall? Hmmm. That limb might be pretty thin. And I agreed with your opinion in December .. if Selby's the man, make him the man and give the team time to adjust. It might cost us some games, but the end product would be better. Not sure whether that would have ended up being the right approach, but we didn't win the title the other way.

PikePeak: How about letting them turn pro after high school only if they have not signed a letter of intent, and having to declare by April 10 at the latest. If not, then they have to wait until 21. That way, colleges don't get screwed, kids can make a living if they are able to, but once they make the commitment, they wait. Add to it a provision that if the head coach leaves between the signing of the LOI and the first game of the kids first season, the kid is automatically released from the LOI.

justanotherfan: If your suggestion is correct, why is Mr. Ford the only one that has him in the top 25 of the draft? Meaning, if he has (or does) compete(d) in these predraft camps vs. Knight and Irving, and is better, won't he move into the top 10? If he is that good, then he'll move up fast. I watched both Irving and Knight play and I never saw Selby look as good as either of them, even the USC game.

I saw someone call Selby "clueless" above -- this is clearly a situation where that answer will only come on draft night. If the guy is drafted in the first round and gets that guaranteed contract, the "clueless" level goes down .. way down. We'll never know if another year or two at KU would have increased his draft stock and potentially his NBA longevity and earning power. Many .. including me .. are just disappointed in the flame-out this season. One more season could have cured those disappointments.

My prior speculation was that the injury thing was spun a bit more serious to aid Selby in his draft pursuits, and as a bit of cover for Self's decision to go with other guys over Selby (so as to not hurt with other top recruits down the road). Pure speculation.

I'm just not sure where I fall on the Selby thing now ... but I'm sure I agree with Oakville. More Jayhawks succeeding in the NBA is a good thing (as long as Selby doesn't say he wants to forget about Kansas again ...)


martyks 2 years, 11 months ago

Sorry to rain on the Josh Selby parade, but please. He was a big disappointment for the Jayhawks. Simply put, he did not deliver. Injuries, yes, but he could have come back another year, especially after all the time and effort our coaching staff put in to recruit him and teach him basketball. Did he owe KU anything? I think the answer is yes. He talked the talk, and that's all he did. I think Bill Self had to be more than angry when he received a call from Josh's mommy to let the coach know he would not return. That is really where I feel he let KU down. He proved, with that one childish move, that he was not mature enough to be a Jayhawk. Whether or not he grows up in the NBA, or plays up to his potential, he will never erase the fact that he was the most hyped/biggest disappointment that the Jayhawks have ever had. Try to name someone who disappointed KU more.

Sure, good luck to you, Josh, but please don't come back to KU and expect us to applaud your introduction at some Late Night or important game. We don't need you any more than you need us. Maybe you could have your mother do that.


William Blake 2 years, 11 months ago

I'm a big Selby fan.... but he should take some responsibility for his bad year.

“At Kansas I was about 75, 80 percent. Now I’m 110 percent. It’s a big difference."

75 percent also related to his healthy period at Kansas. Josh screwed up big time when he arrived at Kansas and put on 20 lbs of baby fat. The extra weight slowed him down and killed his vertical leap. He couldn't finish at the rim because he was dragging a 20 lb ball and chain with him.

In his defense... he was just a kid going to a strange place by himself. I'm pretty sure if he could do it all again he would have backed away from the candy jar...

And then add in Sherron's eating problems... we need to hire a nutritionist (or a better one than we have now)!

He's going to make it... and good luck with that, Josh!


Scott Smetana 2 years, 11 months ago

They need to change the minimum NBA age to 21. Everybody wins, period.


FreddyinLA 2 years, 11 months ago

I’ll take Selby over Wall, hands down, every time. The keys to the 2010-11 Jayhawks should have been handed to Selby the day he signed with KU, even with the looming suspension. Huge mistake by Self.


Tony Bandle 2 years, 11 months ago

We need every Jayhawk NBA success story that we can get, so Josh...go get 'em!!!


jaybate 2 years, 11 months ago

Greatness often triggers unpredictable paths and encounters problems lesser players do not.

KU has learned that long ago, because of all the great players that have played here.

I believe in you, Josh.

And I believe you will see one day that, if you had to go through a very difficult patch of your life, and everyone does sooner or later, KU was a great, safe and nurturing place to be, while you struggled.

Some coaches would have flushed you, when you were suspended as long as you were. Not Self.

Some coaches would have flushed you, when you were injured down the stretch, thereby not letting you at least prove how tough you were. Not Self.

Some coaches would have blown smoke up your trailer about how your TOs did not matter. Not Self.

Some coaches would not have give you an unqualified thumbs up, when the GMs asked, as Self has appeared to have done for you.

Some university town newspapers would not have tried to do stories about you now in hopes of smoothing over fans hurt feelings and helping you stay connected to the program, as the LJW has done here.

Self and KU were very good to you during your time of great trial and trouble. They took you in, when you were goods damaged by a family friend's cash contributions, by NCAA inquiry, and by association with Bruce Perle and his imploding career.

You were a part of one of KU's most beloved and surprising teams.

On your Wiki page it will read that you were on a KU team that won 34 games.

Every player on that team was vital to that team.

You were one of the players.

I will miss your explosivness with the ball and your grit at playing with a boot on.

I will miss your willingness to play out of position for the good of a team in the hunt for a ring.

You didn't have a great season, but you helped the team; of that there is no doubt.


And good luck.

And see you back in Lawrence after you conquer the NBA.

Wilt came back.

So should you.


jaybate 2 years, 11 months ago

I like Josh.

He is going to be great.

The year of struggles at KU may have made him better than he ever would have been without them.

Great persons turn adversity to their advantage.

Josh is doing that right now.

I suspect the deal has been wired for him to go to the Knicks for some time. Walsh is a great judge of talent, one of only a handful of NBA execs/GMs that know enough to pour pee out of a Borsalino.

Walsh knows Josh is huge. And Walsh has to know the connection between Melo and Josh could be a foundational positive for developing Josh, for fitting him into a situation where the team will look after him, because Melo is the cornerstone of the team. It is a great fit for Josh, if someone else doesn't take him before the Knicks do. Josh could juice Melo. And Melo could mentor the kid, and thereby finally grow up himself.

KU fans have to show their hoops IQ here, which they have more of than any other two Maybach program fan bases combined.

Josh had some bad breaks at KU. Plus Self couldn't logically turn the point over to him for a season and enter this coming season without a trained point. The smart play for program continuity was the play Self made. If Josh had been a bit less TO prone, or if Josh had been willing to commit to two seasons, or maybe if he hadn't been suspended for so long, it would have made sense to put him at the point, but there was no certainty that he would ever get off suspension. Self had to nail down the point and play around his uncertainty. Self had to craft a slot for him that he could step into if he got green lighted to play, or that Self could fill with other players if he did not. Then the injury kicked in. That's all that happened.

There is no question in my mind that Josh Selby is a monster talent, a guy who will be a starter in the NBA within two years.

Go, Josh, go!

And come back to Lawrence after you make it big.

You will find that it is a great town and that you will be accepted as one of the guys.


justanotherfan 2 years, 11 months ago

Remember this about Selby...

He was ranked #1 by Rivals. The guy that is #1 on most everyone's draft board is Kyrie Irving. The #3 PG in the class was Brandon Knight. Rivals had Selby (1), Irving (4), Knight (6). ESPN had Irving (3), Knight (4), Selby (5). Scout had Irving (2), Selby (5), Knight (6).

Only one of those guys was healthy all of last season, and he was widely considered the third best player of the group.

My point is this. If Selby is completely healthy (and all reports say he is), then when teams start evaluating him against Irving and Knight (both considered top 5 picks currently) they may just discover that he is comparable to, or superior to one or both of them.


tis4tim 2 years, 11 months ago

Josh's having success in the NBA can only help Kansas, so it makes sense to support his efforts. Alas, I understand the true definition of the word "fan", so I know that calling oneself such exempts one from logic in situations such as these.

A few years from now, few will remember or even care about the circumstances surrounding Josh's time at KU. All they will see is a 6'2" dynamo on the court and "College: Kansas" on his stat sheet.


justinryman 2 years, 11 months ago

Prove all the haters wrong Josh.

Go get yours and enjoy the ride.

I can not hate on the kid, it is not his fault they have the stupid rule. I hate the rule on the one and donnas. And yes kids are going to pick a high profile school to get their one year in, more TV games, more chances for Sports Center highlights and more headlines.

It's a bad rule that needs, no has to be changed, or it will ruin the college game and put the NBA on a lower level. Maybe this next CBA with the NBA will get it right, then again I'm not holding my breath.


jayhwkr77 2 years, 11 months ago

shockhawk you're one of those morons on here with nothing but spite for josh selby because it didn't work out like we thought it would. don't be so bitter about it and hope for the best for him.

god for bid he's going to try to make a lot of money and support his family i know that's an incredible bad thing for a 19 year old from the hood to do. be thankful that he came to KU and will now represent the university at the next level, and will help self's future recruiting in the process.


Robert Brock 2 years, 11 months ago

Obviously, a big danger in "One and Done" is that neither party may get much out of the One.


ShockHawk10 2 years, 11 months ago

This kid is clueless! He attempted to use Kansas as a springboard to the NBA. When it blew up in his face, he still declared for the draft. I don't know who his advisors are, but I hope he's not paying them much. And for all of you wishing him luck, I second that. Good luck Josh... You're going to need it.


BCRavenJHawkfan 2 years, 11 months ago

42" verticle....... Those new Nike Springs are amazing!


jayhawks25 2 years, 11 months ago

If you were going through all that like he said why not stay another year and show the world what he's got in college. Honestly, I most admire the guys who stay for 3 to 4 years. But, what are we going to do. Good luck Josh! ~Rock Chalk


Ben Kane 2 years, 11 months ago

I wish it could have gone differently at kansas. I will never forget that usc game. best of luck to you Josh.


duanep5ku 2 years, 11 months ago

I only wish that Kansas fans could have seen the best of Josh Selby, when you were here because it would have been awesome to see. Oh, well time to move on for Kansas and you Josh and if you do make the 1st round great job and best of luck to you.


Commenting has been disabled for this item.