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Thursday, May 26, 2011

KU football adds Florida cornerback Daniel Gray

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The recruiting haul for the Kansas University football program in the Class of 2012 officially is in motion.

Jon Kirby, of Rivals.com, reported Wednesday that Daniel Gray, a 6-foot, 165-pound cornerback from Boyd Anderson High in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., orally committed to the Jayhawks Wednesday evening via a telephone call to head coach Turner Gill.

Gray, a senior-to-be, has been timed as fast as 4.3 seconds in the 40-yard dash and consistently runs in the 4.4 range. He chose KU over offers from Texas Tech and Florida International. Nearby programs Miami and Florida State also showed serious interest in the physical defensive back.

At the end of the day, KU’s early interest, kicked off by Florida guru and KU safeties coach, Robert Wimberly, paid off. The Jayhawks’ persistence didn’t hurt either.

“I always felt that Kansas was loyal to me,” Gray told Rivals. “Coach Gill was really cool ... I really like coach Wimberly. He’s very honest and I liked how he was trustworthy. I hope to go up to Kansas and start a new tradition.”

The addition of Gray marks the second straight year the Jayhawks have landed a cornerback from the Sunshine State. Chris Robinson, 5-9, 170, of Lake Mary, Fla., was one of 27 members of KU’s 2011 class. Robinson will report to campus in June.

This year, KU has about half as many scholarships available to give (13), which has encouraged the coaching staff to alter its approach on the recruiting trail.

“When you don’t have as many scholarships available, you have to be really selective with the pool of players that you’re going after,” said KU recruiting coordinator and running backs coach Reggie Mitchell. “This year, we’re going to be a little more selective with the positions that we’re going to take.”

One position that KU continues to deem important is cornerback. And there’s a specific reason for that.

“We’re going after speed,” Mitchell said.

Comments

actorman 3 years, 2 months ago

I tell you one thing: regardless of how the team does in terms of wins and losses, the more speed they continue to add, the more exciting the team should be to watch. I can't wait to see how all of these speedy recruits turn out a few years down the road.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

If dude runs between a 4.3 and 4.4 he would of been the 2nd or 3rd fastest player at the NFL combine this year. Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (hey <-- that's a new on) could his time be reported wrong.

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Ethan Berger 3 years, 2 months ago

Not reported wrong, just timed wrong. When he ran his 40, it was most likely used by a stop watch. In the Combine, they use a sensor which is far more accurate. Its a couple tenth of a second difference between stop and sensor. So we are looking at him running a 4.5 or 4.6. Not bad for high school.

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waywardJay 3 years, 2 months ago

IN the words of the recently fallen.... Ohhhhhhhh yeeeeaaaahhh!!!!!

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Ethan Berger 3 years, 2 months ago

Yea my brother told me, This is good news.

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Jeremy Bolinger 3 years, 2 months ago

I LOVE this pickup! Gray will be a player here. Great job Gill and Co.

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minnhawk84 3 years, 2 months ago

Turner Gill has taken a page from Dr. Osborne's recruiting book. In the late 80s and early 90s, Nebraska was getting to the National Championship game and then getting toasted by one of the Florida Schools -- the Huskers just didn't have the speed to compete with the Gator, Seminole, and Hurricane wide outs. Once Nebraska made it a priority to get their own Florida DBs, the national championships started. Good job to the coaching staff to successfully land these genetic speed freaks from the Sunshine State.

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Michael Pannacciulli 3 years, 2 months ago

Really hope that Gill and his staff do well this year. I love their passion and enthusiasm. Would be great to get back to '08 form also!

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jhox 3 years, 2 months ago

Don't expect much this year, with this schedule. Three or four wins is probably about as much as we can hope for. We should start seeing better results in 2012 and beyond.

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Marc Frey 3 years, 2 months ago

I agree. Speed and a line than can protect a D-1 caliber QB will help us. But, I love hearing us pick up some good talent. We may not be up there with UT, OSU, and Bama, but we can get some players that will make us competitive. We should think that we can aim beat ISU, KSU, MU, and BU every year. Then add a W over one or two other Big 12 minus 2 and a non-conference win and who knows? It is possible.

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Marc Frey 3 years, 2 months ago

Sorry bad spelling and grammar. Multi-tasking at 7am.

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jayhawkfanatic11 3 years, 2 months ago

Great pick up Coach Gill. Hopefully we can get several 4 star players

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

Ummmmmmmm. Please tell me that you didn't look at the users rating on rivals instead of the rivals ranking.

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ardy682 3 years, 2 months ago

Are any of these kids (fball recruits) tall enough to play as a forward or center for our basketball team? we need a little help there.

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justanotherfan 3 years, 2 months ago

Not many 6-2 corners around, ahperse. The kid's 6-0, which is pretty legit size for a CB.

Oh, I forgot, you smell the manure under every rose bush.

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KGphoto 3 years, 2 months ago

Dude! 6 foot, 165 pounds is a big high school corner. You are really reaching.

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jaymar74 3 years, 2 months ago

learn to research before you post, your vision=small sided (actually you are getting scared we might be getting some solid recruits)

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orbiter 3 years, 2 months ago

6ft isn't even short for a physical NFL safety, but of course you are just in this for the hate.

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Saguaro_Jayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

He's not very old, only a senior-to-be in HS. He may realize more vertical growth and certainly more muscle mass before long.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

6ft 165 means you can see his heart beat through his ribs when he takes his shirt off!

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Tom Gillaspie 3 years, 2 months ago

At 16/17 I was 5' 11" and 170lbs, and by no means could you see my heart beating through my ribs. At 19 I was around 195. It all depends on the frame - if he can add the weight and remain speedy. Also - this isn't Oklahoma or Texas, we're never going to get the 5-star 6' 2" 200lb corner out of high school. Outside of a few 2-3 year runs, we have always been middle-of-the-pack at best in Big 12 or Big Eight (and before). Deal.

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jaymar74 3 years, 2 months ago

your fear is showing again, fear=denial

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kureader 3 years, 2 months ago

He's only a high school junior. The kid will put on 20 or 30 lbs. before playing at KU, if that's what the coaches want him to do. 6' is acceptable for a fast corner.

That's certainly easier than recruiting a big slow kid, hoping to make him faster. Give the coaching staff some credit for a change. They landed speed, and that's exactly what they're after.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Fair enough. I'm certainly not savvy enough to know the exact origins, so thanks for the info. My point, though, is that Gill clearly has this mindset from his Nebraska roots.

And, yeah, clearly the evolution is good for college. It's been tougher on the pros, however, as it has made it virtually impossible for NFL scouts to find the old-fashioned 280-290 defensive end. NFL is basically being forced into the leaner DE out of necessity.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

woops, sorry. Pay no attention to the above response. Meant to reply to justinryman below. I have no idea how it ended up here.....

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kranny 3 years, 2 months ago

The kid runs a 10.39 100 meter. That's smokin' for a 16/17 year old kid. Hope the speed translates to effectiveness on the field. Scout site guys seem to think he's legit. Hopefully he can add 15 pounds between now and next June.

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KGphoto 3 years, 2 months ago

"Coach Gill was really cool..."

Sorry ahperse, but your theory of kids not wanting to come play for TG because of "stupid" or conservative rules is leaking badly.

Just admit that you've never met Gill, and so you don't know jack about him. And once again, I'd like to hear what your alternative selection was.

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justinryman 3 years, 2 months ago

Well he can't go with Tubberville anymore, not after the past Auburn allegations and then the ones from last years Tech team. Opppps, not a good hire by Tech. Sure he might win a few more games than Gill, but in the end they will all be forfeited and he will have a zero winning %.

Just like Calapari and where he goes. cheaters cheat and they get caught.

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Kevin Studer 3 years, 2 months ago

Defensive tackle....Defensive tackle....only 12 scholarships left....

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Dyrk Dugan 3 years, 2 months ago

HCTG has already commented on this. he doesn't recruit DTs per se. he recruits DEs...and then beefs them up to convert them to DTs. he wants speed AND push in the middle of the line....not just push. You can already witness this with the Lewandowski kid, as an example. he's back to DE, but in the spring, all he played was DT.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Agree. This was the old Nebraska model. Take speed and bulk it up. Move a fast CB to linebacker, etc. The defensive line in the college game has trended to smaller and faster pretty much universally anyway.

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justinryman 3 years, 2 months ago

Well Nebraska was getting beat by Miami back in 84, and it was Howard Schnellenberger, who first adapted to moving CBs to Safeties, safeties to out side LBs ILBs to DE's and so on.

That's where TO got the idea, and you know what, it's a good one for the college game.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Don't know how my response to you, justinryman, got posted a few slots up above, but let's try this again.....

Fair enough. I'm certainly not savvy enough to know the exact origins, so thanks for the info. My point, though, is that Gill clearly has this mindset from his Nebraska roots.

And, yeah, clearly the evolution is good for college. It's been tougher on the pros, however, as it has made it virtually impossible for NFL scouts to find the old-fashioned 280-290 defensive end. NFL is basically being forced into the leaner DE out of necessity.

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Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

MV - half right. Coach Gill has said he isn't going to recruit DT's for the sake of recruiting DT's if he's not going to get speed & skill, hence the reason for getting extra lanky DE's last year - hopng that some of them can bulk up. That being said, Scout has several DT's on our offer list.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

You guys should read the Florida International (tee-hee-hee) boards. Their fans (ha-ha-ha) are putting all kinds of pressure on the coaching staff for letting this one get away (baa-haaaaaaa-ha-ha).

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KGphoto 3 years, 2 months ago

Florida International has about 45,000 students. That's about 1.5 times bigger than KU. Nobody knew who Miami was before the 80s either. Now that they are serious about the football program, they are going to be big time, with all that hometown talent to draw from.

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jaymar74 3 years, 2 months ago

now your fear = poor attempts at sarcasim

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Dyrk Dugan 3 years, 2 months ago

sounds like he has speed to burn.....welcome Mr. Gray! remember folks, Rome wasn't built in a day. Allow the head coach to build the program with his kids, his way...and then we'll see what happens.

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jhawkrulz 3 years, 2 months ago

ESPN has him listed as 5'10" 160.

That does seem small, but we all know that there is a lot of beef added to players between their Senior year and after their redshirt year.

I'm hoping that he has grown a couple of inches.

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justinryman 3 years, 2 months ago

Patrick Paterson from LSU the first DB taken is only 6' 1/4", and thats per the NFL combine.

Prince Amukamara, from NU another DB in the first rnd stands at only 6'.

Jimmy Smith from Colorado, and drafted by the Ravens in the 1st rnd is 6'2 1/4". now he's tall.

Darrell Revis from the Jets is only 5' 11" and he's one of the best in the game right now if not the best.

Playing DB isn't how tall you are, it's how you can cover your man, make the right reads and play solid team D.

(all stats from ESPN.com)

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Wow, if that's true, not bad at all. Especially considering he isn't even a senior yet.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

I wasn't aware that Gill inherited a herd of turtles for a football team.

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jaymar74 3 years, 2 months ago

actually, compared to the balance of the conference, he did.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

I'm glad to see you are finally starting to admit the things you are not aware of. Piece of advice, though, get one of those 5-subject notepads. That list is going to be looooooooong.....

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milehighhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

ahperse - you've become like a car alarm. No one takes you seriously when you go off anymore.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

You know, I would completely buy that, except that he is about as hardcore a KU BBall fan as there is on these boards. As much as he likes to call football posters blind to reality, he then turns around and homerizes almost all his basketball posts.

It's weird. But he is clearly a football troll who has lost any relevance or power due to his overexposure of attempted sarcastic negative humor.

milehighhawk, car alarm is the perfect metaphor. Well done.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

These are great snippets on the kid. If I may, though, it does bring out a bit of my pessimist side: if his recruiting is, in fact, going to "blow up" this year, then I'm weary of whether we can hang on to him. We all know how solid the verbal commit is...

Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but it would have to be tempting to the kid if the Gator's or LSU or Bama came knocking. Hopefully he meant what he said about the coaching staff and none of that would matter.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Question: Does anyone know what Talib's size was when he was in high school? ESPN has him currently listed at 6'1" and 205, but certainly he must have been smaller than that when recruited. Plus, he was just a 3 star guy, if I'm not mistaken.

Just curious. I'm sure I could find it out with some search engine time, but I don't particularly feel like exerting the energy. Plus, I'm guessing someone on here knows it off the top of his (or her) head.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Thanks phog. So, essentially, he was the same size as this kid his senior year.

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jhawkrulz 3 years, 2 months ago

Talib was a two star recruit to my understanding...not even a 3 star.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, I thought he may have been a two, but I wasn't sure. Decided to err on the side of caution, as it were. Thanks for the correction.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 2 months ago

Because we know every 2star recruit turns out to be a first round draft pick.

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Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

No, But being 6' w/ 4.4 speed certainly helps.

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Raymond Wright 3 years, 2 months ago

Champ Bailey = 6'0" 192lb Jabari Greer = 5'11" 180lb Asante Samuel = 5'10 185lb Antoine Winfield = 5'9" 180lb Devin McCourty = 5'11" 193lb Darrelle Revis = 5'11" 198lb Charles Woodson = 6'1" 202lb Tramon Williams = 5'11" 191lb

All those guys are top rated corners that are playing in the league. apherse probably should stick to basketball cause you know sheet about football. I'm not saying this kid can play in the league. This is just in response to that idiot ahperse, who obviously knows nothing about football

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joepattern 3 years, 2 months ago

And with a name with the chiefs mentioned in it I'm surprised you didn't list Brandon Flowers who is 5 foot 9, maybe?

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