Kansas defeats Illinois, 73-59

  • 7:40 p.m., March 20, 2011
  • BOK Center, Tulsa, OK

Monday, March 21, 2011

Stayin’ alive: Morris twins help Kansas bury Illini

Kansas forward Markieff Morris delivers on an alley-oop dunk from teammate Tyshawn Taylor during the second half against Illinois on Sunday, March 20, 2011 at the BOK Center in Tulsa.

Kansas forward Markieff Morris delivers on an alley-oop dunk from teammate Tyshawn Taylor during the second half against Illinois on Sunday, March 20, 2011 at the BOK Center in Tulsa.



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Kansas took down Illinois on Sunday, March 20, 2011 in Tulsa, Okla. to advance to the Sweet Sixteen.

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KU coach Bill Self

Kansas coach Bill Self talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 73-59 victory over Illinois on March 20, 2011.

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— There were no funeral services held for Bill Self and his Kansas University basketball players on Sunday night in BOK Center.

The 2010-11 Jayhawks are still breathing today, marching on to the NCAA Tournament’s Sweet 16 after a convincing 73-59 victory over Illinois and coach Bruce Weber, the man who held a mock burial service for Self after Self left U of I for KU in 2003.

“We’re all alive and well and glad coach Self is our coach,” KU senior guard Tyrel Reed said in a festive locker room.

The top-seeded Jayhawks (34-2) wanted to play well for several reasons Sunday, none bigger than taking care of their beloved coach.

“When we broke the huddle at halfcourt before the game, Marcus said, ‘We want to do this for coach. We have to win this game for coach,’’’ said KU junior guard Tyshawn Taylor. “He said we couldn’t let coach down.”

Marcus backed up his pregame words by scoring 17 points and grabbing 12 rebounds on a night his brother, Markieff, hit the No. 9-seeded Illini (20-14) for 24 points and 12 boards.

“That’s our guy,” Marcus Morris said of Self. “Coach didn’t say anything about it, but I felt this game meant a lot to him. I told the guys, ‘Let’s do it for coach.’’’

“We definitely did that for coach,” noted Markieff, who had eight points in a 10-0 run that stretched a 56-51 lead with 6:33 left to an insurmountable 66-51 at 2:31.

The players were unanimous in their feelings about the matter.

“Coach always has our back in everything. We had to have his back tonight,” noted senior Brady Morningstar, who contributed five points with six assists against just one turnover.

Self, who downplayed his personal feelings about playing his former school before the game, admitted walking away from his postgame media interview session that this was a red-letter day in his career.

“Yes, that was big for me,” Self acknowledged. “It’s one of those games when the bracket comes out you say, ‘Geez,’ because I know it’d bring some talk back and forth. But eight years is a long time. It wasn’t like it’s been two or three years.

“It’s big for me personally in coming back home to Tulsa (where he coached at Oral Roberts and Tulsa) and playing the school I used to coach at where it was controversial when I left. This was big.”

Of course, by winning for Self, the Jayhawks did themselves and KU’s legion of fans a favor. The season continues Friday in San Antonio, where the Jayhawks will meet No. 12 seed Richmond at 6:27 p.m. in the Alamodome. The game will be shown on TBS. The winner will play either No. 11-seed VCU or No. 10-Florida State in the Elite Eight in a region full of upsets.

“We had a little celebration in here,” Marcus Morris said of the locker room. “We finally got over the hump after losing to Northern Iowa (in second game) last year. Now it’s time to see if we can get two wins in our next weekend tournament.”

Self again was brutally honest when asked if he felt “relieved” the Jayhawks advanced after losing as a top seed so early last season.

“I’d be lying if I said no,” Self said. “You say all the time ‘attack mode’ and smile and have fun, but at the end of the day it was a big win for us. They’ve been reminded a long time of what happened last year.”

As far as the specifics of actually how KU advanced, the Jayhawks not only had the back-breaking 10-0 run late, but a 14-1 surge in the first half (Tyshawn Taylor had five points and Markieff Morris four) that turned a 5-4 deficit into an 18-6 lead.

“The twins were awesome,” said Self, who felt confident at halftime despite the fact the Illini lagged by just four, 33-29.

“I told our guys it was the same score as the Boston game,” he added of a 72-53 first-round victory. “Even though they cut the lead from 12 to four, I still felt we had control of the game because it really hurt us when Tyshawn got his second foul (with KU up, 20-13 with 10:04 left in first half; Taylor sat out the rest of the half).

“I thought Elijah did a great job on Demetri in his absence,” he added of guard Demetri McCamey, who had just six points off 2-of-9 shooting, including one of five from three.

“Then in the second half we kind of got it going and played through these two guys,” he added of the twins, who erupted for a combined 26 points the final half.

Illinois’ Mike Davis had 17 points, D.J. Richardson 15 and Mike Tisdale 13, but holding McCamey down was pivotal.

“Coach said if we cut the head off the rest of the team would follow. That’s what we did,” Taylor said. “I’m really excited about next week. Coach told us to be happy, have fun, but not to be content. Just know it’s not over yet.”

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W.C. Beck 7 years, 3 months ago

Great game, boys! Unbelievable showing by the Morrii. Fab game from Taylor. Excellent play as always by the 3 seniors. Dominant presence from TR. Solid minutes from EJ, Selby. On a weekend when it was tough to be a Big XII fan, what a great day it was to be Jayhawk.

Congratulations Tyrel Reed on becoming the winningest player in the storied history of Kansas basketball. Way to go, bud!

Mr. Dark Horse himself, the consistantly improving and increasingly amiable Tyshawn summed it up quite well:

“I’m really excited about next week. Coach told us to be happy, have fun, but not to be content. Just know it’s not over yet."

Four more to go

Carpe Beak 'em

Mike Gammill 7 years, 3 months ago

A much better showing by far. However, KU should have had them ran out of the building within the first ten minutes. Illinois is slow, we should have exploited it.

Now, on to the regional stacked with mid majors. Beware Jayhawks.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I think we would have if TT hadn't picked up his second foul. The offense lagged after that and Illinois gained confidence. It took most of the second half to get the momentum back.

Dale Kroening 7 years, 3 months ago

We beat them by 14 points, more than any team they lost to this season, even the great OSU in their 2 games only won by 5 and 11. I think we are every bit as good as OSU, but I knew we wouldnt run the Illini out of the building. Sorry, have to disagree.

actorman 7 years, 3 months ago

"Carpe Beak 'em"

I love it!!! That's one of the best lines I've ever seen here!

It was such a fun game to watch and it looked like the team was having so much fun too. Not to be picky, but I'm a little concerned about them focusing so much on winning for Coach Self. It's great that they care so much about him, but they really need to be focusing on playing well for themselves and not trying to find external reasons, especially with the next two (hopefully) games coming against low seeds. I'm also a little worried about playing a mid-major in the next game. In a way, that will be a bigger test than Illinois. Let's see if they can find the same motivation and insensity without the incentive of winning against Self's old team, and without playing against a big-conference school. Richmond is exactly the type of team that KU has struggled with numerous times over the years (including the only time that KU's played against Richmond). So hopefully they can come out with the same kind of fire on Friday.

One other item to comment on: did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable with the beginning of this column being about funeral services? Don't get me wrong, I get the connection to the whole Bruce Weber thing, but given that all that KU has gone through this year, it somehow seems a little in poor taste to open the article with that.

mojayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I for one am glad to hear the guys want to win one for Coach. They knew how much this one meant to him. As for the funeral services? The only distasteful thing was when Weber did the mock funeral. I think our guys got it. They 'Man'd up' yesterday. FOE!

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Re: funeral service analogy

I honestly didn't even think about what happened earlier in the year when reading that. My mind went immediately to the Bruce Weber thing, probably because it was so prominently talked about the last two days (even during the game last night) and so fresh on my mind. However, I can understand if it did take your mind to TRob, and I can understand thinking it was in poor taste if it indeed did that for you.

It didn't bother me, though, and I'm guessing Gary only wrote it because his mindset was in the same place as mine.

wyansas 7 years, 3 months ago

Marcus lately reminds me of Drew Gooden, who was the last Jayhawk big man whose offensive skills really wowed me. Those turn around jumpers he's hitting are hard. I'm really enjoying him play.

NJHAWK 7 years, 3 months ago

Absolutely not. Marcus is more talented (offense and defense) than Gooden. Cus has a better range than Gooden. Sometimes, Gooden played selfish. If the ball went in to him, it never came out to perimeter players (though players on the perimeter were open). You will not see that from Marcus. KU plays a very good inside-out game with the twins. That is one of the primary reasons, KU is successful this year. In the last three games, TT has realized it, too

Paul Mitten 7 years, 3 months ago

Short memory much? Gooden was fantastic at Kansas. He made Collison look average playing alongside him, and Collison would eventually make us say Lafrentz who?

utahjayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I guess we have different memories.........Drew never had a 20/20 game like Nick did and got one of only two standing ovations from Vitale. Drew was great, especially inside but had nowhere near the mid-range game Marcus has.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 3 months ago

Drew was an OR animal, so not seeing that similarity. It is easy to love the overall O package of the Morrii. They are getting crazy good with the turn around. Almost as good as Wayne. Wonder if it is any coincidence that he is with the team, even if technically just as a chaplain.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Honestly surprised that you wouldn't make the comparison to Simien, as that turn around jumper so closely resembles his bread and butter.

Marcus has a better overall offensive game than Drew does. Better ball handling, better passing, better range. He's just more versatile. Drew is a better rebounder and has a bit more strength.

hawk_of_ages 7 years, 3 months ago

The twins' body type and tendencies are more similar to Drew than to Wayne. Simien didn't have the mobility, range, or passing skills that the twins have.

Totally agree with your comparison of Drew and the twins. Drew was a great player, esp. his junior year when he should have been POY over Jay Williams. The problem with Drew was that he was always trying to do all the things the twins do on the perimeter -- fancy passes, 3-point shots -- but he just wasn't as skilled as they are in those areas.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

No, I totally agree. I don't think either have the versatility that the twins have. Wyansas just specifically mentioned the turn-around J, which is sooooo Simien. That was my only point on that.

Marcus, however, is ridiculously money on the baseline turnaround. Perhaps even more so than Wayne.

Mike Bratisax 7 years, 3 months ago

Agree..our Guard play did not live up to the level of our Bigs..but they distributed well enough and the TOs were limited.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 3 months ago

The guards have developed the reputation of being able to hit 3's, and 3 (Tyrel, Markieff, TT) to start the game helps. As long as it is in the flow of the game/O, they have to take that open shot to keep the D honest and the lane open for the front court. It's all part of the package; the bigger picture.

Jared Grillot 7 years, 3 months ago

That's why we have to stay focused on the inside-out game. We have to have the ability to hit from both places, not relying solely on either one. I actually thought this out loud last night about Illinois - with all their size, late game focused a lot on getting the open-3 look, and I thought, "If you want to live and die by the 3, then go ahead, because this game will be over." IF we are doing things our way, then we do both, and feed the one that is working best that night. We win a lot of games, but I feel sorry for the team that gets us when inside and outside are both hitting at the same time.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

"...almost shot us out of the game."

[sigh]... You, again, seem to be off the mark on your analysis.

We took a total of 12 three pointers the entire game. 12. The entire game. Our season average is 18.5. We only took 2/3rds of the attempts we AVERAGE on the year.... which means we took very, very few three point attempts (and hit 33% which, while not good, is not terrible either).

How exactly can that be considered "[shooting] us out of the game"??

Tyrel missed some open looks. That was disappointing. But shots either fall or they don't, and we want him taking open looks when he gets them.

Every time.

Next game he probably hits 60% of them.

He didn't almost shoot us out of the game. You know what else he didn't do? Turn the ball over. At all.

Doug Fogleman 7 years, 3 months ago

Tyrel has had several games this year where he keep us in the game. He had eight early points against Boston U. on 3/4 shooting to keep us in the game. The second half he went back to feeding the post.

No complaints with Tyrel. He is our on true solid player.

KU_FanSince75 7 years, 3 months ago

My thoughts exactly, LA. And for the record, I said "Eight-Legged Freaks" long time before you said it---LOL. That's okay, because you have two more points than I do in your Bracket.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Haha, I totally stole it from you on the live blog last night. :-)

RockCaCO3 7 years, 3 months ago

Great game Hawks! Lets smoosh some spiders.

I have to say, I like what CBS did this year and put the games on other channels. However, the TV breaks seemed longer on TNT than on CBS (could just be me), and Marv Wilbert needs to learn players last names. Marv, you make a good living, f'n earn it.

murph 7 years, 3 months ago

Um... The man's name is Marv ALBERT.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Hahaha.... "Marv Wilbert needs to learn the players last names."

Awesome. That certainly was intentional right?

Well played.

RockCaCO3 7 years, 3 months ago

Went to vote for Tyrel this morning, and got this:

Rock Chalk Tyrel!

DaNeille Dani Davis 7 years, 3 months ago

Way to go Tyrel!! He stands for everything Kansas Basketball is!

100 7 years, 3 months ago

That's really great on several levels.

  1. Great job getting the vote out.

  2. Great job Tyrel.

  3. Wonderful write up by Blair Kerkoff. He is such an asset to Jayhawk nation. He was raised in North Carolina but he has really endeared & educated many Americans about the rich tradition that started here. He himself, a person brought up in Carolina, a person brave enough to allow his mind to open up after moving his roots to Naismith's final resting place.... is indeed... A Jayhawk pulsating in his heart due to his choice of studies, in tandem with his own extremely respectable Carolina blueblood roots that allow him to tell Lawrence's 113 year old Basket. Ball. story from a non biased angle.

  4. And great job to Tyrel. Most of us will always love what Roy did for us, and his Jayhawk heart he couldn't rip off his chest during the interview, but the truth is... Roy tried to get a Kansan to play for him at Carolina.... And Tyrel had to much Jayhawk heart in him to leave his dream of playing with Coach Self & Kansas.

You make Jayhawk nation very proud Tyrel......

Now let's go take care of some Spiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kit Duncan 7 years, 3 months ago

Tyrel hasn't won it yet, if that's what you're implying. The men's and women's winner will be announced at the respective Final Fours according to the website. The Tyrel article is probably the lead on today's website, since he got the most votes from fans. Fan votes are only a part of the overall vote and will certainly be a factor in the final outcome.

I caution against anyone crowning Tyrel the winner just yet.

Great win last night! Keep it going Hawks!!

lincase 7 years, 3 months ago

I have not read all of the comments on every thread, so forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere, but, when the announcers were talking about Angel, they said that Jayla Robinson had moved to Lawrence and that Angel was helping to raise her. Can anyone confirm this report? Did I not hear correctly (always a possibility)?

mahone2 7 years, 3 months ago

Heard that too. Would love to hear the whole story.

Gregg Gibson 7 years, 3 months ago

Heard that, as well. Which makes you think... if Angela is helping take care of Jayla, she might not yet be ready to move from Lawrence next yesr, which means she might not be ready for her boys to move yet either... Am I hoping for too much here? Ehhh, let's concentrate on this year's work first and next year will take care of itself. Stay on the throttle, Jayhawks, DON'T LET UP!!! (Still, a guy can hope for a twin return, can't he?)

Dirk Medema 7 years, 3 months ago

Heard that also, tho don't have a lot of faith in the accuracy of the anouncing crew. That would be a nice story during the 4 days of waiting for the next game. Also wondered if that was Jayla shown at the end of the game in the red KU cheer outfit? Anyone with a DVR?

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I think that was Tyshawn Taylor's little sister... she was sitting right next to his mom.

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Jayla is now "living with friends in D.C., and will move to Lawrence and live with T-Rob after his season and her school year is over.

KU_FanSince75 7 years, 3 months ago

Wow---Alan Shope----I was wondering where he ended up. He used to be at KAKE-TV, Ch. 10, in Wichita, KS. Now I know. Thanks for the link, mimiHawk. Always love stories about T-Rob.

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

YW... This is another good article about T Rob and Coach Hinson bonding during the time they spent in D.C. :

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I knew Jayla would be here sooner rather than later for 3 reasons:

1) in the days right after Lisa Robinson's death when Jayla was staying with her birth father, Coach Self said she was living with "relative strangers"

2) in the initial requests to the NCAA, KU asked to be able to pay to move Jayla back to Lawrence

3) after the funeral, Tyrel Reed made the following statement on behalf of the team, “We’re family, and this is something we wanted to do for Thomas,” Kansas senior guard Tyrel Reed said. “Thomas is our brother and he and Jayla are hurting. We’ll do anything we can to make sure they get through this. Our support will continue for them in the future; we want what is best for them. We want them to be in the best situation and have the utmost opportunities.”

IMO the fact that Tyrel Reed made the statement speaks volumes, too.

So, since the funeral, Jayla has gone from living with her father, to now living with friends in D.C., and will join T-Rob in Lawrence after the season is over.

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

"the best situation" and "the utmost opportunities" meant in Lawrence with T-rob... it was only a matter of time...

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

"2) in the initial requests to the NCAA, KU asked to be able to pay to move Jayla back to Lawrence"

I didn't know that. I'm guessing the NCAA didn't agree to this?

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

From LJW article 1/27/11:

“As a part of this collaboration, the university requested and was immediately granted a number of waivers from general NCAA bylaws, including one that will allow the university to pay for Thomas’ younger sister to return to Lawrence with her brother.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Awesome. The NCAA, sometimes, are not gigantic d-bags.


murph 7 years, 3 months ago

Poor little girl! I was afraid it wasn't a good thing that she was "with her father". I do hope she's out of that situation.

One thing, though - I believe her name is Jayla Paris - she has a different father than T Rob's.

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Yes, they do have different fathers. From a KCStar article 3/9/11:

"When Thomas was 10, his moth­er began living with an­oth­er man, who would lat­er fa­ther Jayla. Thomas warmed to him and felt like his life was finally becom­ing normal. But when Thomas was about 13, Jayla’s fa­ther was incar­cerated.

With Jayla’s fa­ther out of the pic­ture, Robin­son felt pressured to help the fam­ily financially. "

When asked about Jayla living with her father after Lisa's death, T Rob said: “I know he’s go­ing to try to do right.”

I'm guessing it didn't work out.

I guess you can tell I've been following this story.

lincase 7 years, 3 months ago

Thank you. I felt I was mistaken about her last name, but didn't know what it was.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

Man, for some reason, I'm just really pulling for Josh to contribute in this final push. He's not really doing much with the limited minutes he's being given. Doesn't really look like he's interested. I try to look for him during TOs and at the end of games to check out his body language and far, doesn't look good. Would be nice for him to have fond memories of his time at KU, the end of which I believe is as close as our last game. I know a lot of folks don't believe he's ready for the NBA, but I think he's as good as gone.

hawksince51 7 years, 3 months ago

All logic suggests that Josh needs at least one more year at KU. Certainly he is not ready for the NBA based on his play at KU. In fairness to the kid, he missed too many games to make the normal progression from freshman to sophomore by March. So for his own good and long-term future he should do a sophomore year at KU. But I never underestimate the stupidity of the NBA in wasting high draft choices on unproven potential and athletic ability.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

I agree with you. Unfortunately, for us, Josh is projected to go in the first round in some of the mock drafts. He will undoubtedly decide sitting on the bench at the next level will be much easier to take with a fat check in his wallet.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 3 months ago

Josh was 46% from 3 before his injury and 16% since, which brings him overall back to a still respectable (tho last of our 3-shooters at) 36%. Hopefully, the labor buisness will encourage all the underclassmen to return for a repeat attempt.

As for his body language, I think it is fine. He is disappointed in the amount he has been able to contribute, but he is doing exactly what he needs to do (learn D from the master) to become an even better player. The backcourt opens up next year, so he has the opportunity to have the rock in his hands. TT, EJ, Josh is sik, especially if they can keep their current control on TO's.


KGphoto 7 years, 3 months ago

Don't forget the inevitable NBA $$$ grab that will taint the draft. Lottery picks stand to lose a lot. And lower 1st round could possibly gain from that. We'll see.

Kye Clark 7 years, 3 months ago

He could definitely benefit from another year in the college game. However, here's the rub - the longer you stay in college the less NBA teams are drafting you on potential and more on you being a known commodity. If he were to stay another year, he would likely need to have a break-out, first team all-conference type of season to be drafted as high as he is projected at this year. Now factor in that he is a point guard, has been his whole life and that will be the position he plays in the NBA, and then consider that undoubtedly Self will use Tyshawn as his primary point guard next year and will most likely play Selby off the ball for the majority of his minutes. That isn't the best recipe for him to be successful, so he may decide to get while the gettin's good. He will probably also consider his injury this year, and the thought of what would happen to his NBA dreams should he suffer another injury next year that knocks him off his game. Basically I agree with jayhawkinATL in that if I were a betting man, I'd bet on him turning pro.

jayhawktalk 7 years, 3 months ago

We must have seen two different games. I saw a Josh Selby busting his tail on defense, giving 110% when he was on the court, and playing within himself on offense. If he keeps that up, the rest of his game will fall into place.

...Maybe he should have forced up 4 or 5 contested 3-pointers, and turned the ball over 3 times while forcing the issue in the lane? Failing to recognize all aspects of the game is exactly the mindset that led to Brady-bashing earlier in the year.

People may be able to question some things about Josh's play this year, but I think the one thing without question is that he gives everything he's got, is a great teammate, and has the heart of a champion. I agree, however, that if he leaves after this year, he probably does himself a disservice, though.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

Was not bashing Josh at all. Would just like for him to find his groove on the offensive end see the more jovial side of him.

baldwinjhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I feel so bad for Selby right now.. It has really gotten in his head... Poor little guy. He definitely will be back next year. He's has totally dropped off of all of the mock draft boards.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

NBA-DRAFT.COM still has him listed as high as no. 17. DRAFTEXPRESS.COM still has him as a very late 1st-rounder. Less than a couple of weeks ago, NBADRAFT.NET had him as a mid/late 1st-rounder.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

As long as Josh stays in the first round, I think he's gone.

Jeff Coffman 7 years, 3 months ago

I've actually never seen Tyrell off like he was last night. Usually that guy is nothing but money. I was pleased that they still lined him up with shots and of course the twins just kept draining them.

I thought KU was a little bit of off and still crushed Illinois.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 3 months ago

+1 Yeah, I thought it showed how good of an all-around team we are in that we could still grind out a tough win with both Reed and Morningstar bringing their C/D games, particularly offensively.

Dirk Medema 7 years, 3 months ago

Check out the early season games. I believe he started the year in a slump, tho he has been solid for most of the year.

Jeff Coffman 7 years, 3 months ago

Another comment I was going to make is how much I'm surprised the power conferences are struggling in the tournament.

The Big Least I think is the amazing story with only 2 of 11 teams advancing and that was the minimum they could have had after the round of 32.

The Big XII is down to 1 of 5 teams.

The Big 10 is down to 2 of 7 teams.

These were clearly the top 3 conferences in the tournament and really none of these conferences showed up.

The ACC has really shown up with 3 in the 16 and I have to give credit to the Mountain West having 2 of 3 making it to the 16 (although they had favorable seeding).

Mike Bratisax 7 years, 3 months ago

The number of BIG upsets is mind boggling..KU needs to be ready to crush the Spiders.. One game at a time. I felt bad for Pullen..What an effort.

Tim Bingaman 7 years, 3 months ago

This was the year for these kind of upsets.

Other than KU, OSU and Duke with Irving, no one has been really impressive.

Mike Bratisax 7 years, 3 months ago

Tyrell has his worst game that I remember and still..the outcome was never in doubt. That was KU BB at a high level. Inside domination! The twins and TRob dominated while our guard play was good..but not great. I know that must have been really sweet for HCBS.

Mike Bratisax 7 years, 3 months ago

I should digress (I used 'digress' for Jaybate) Tyrell's worst shooting night. He played excellent D.

jaybate 7 years, 3 months ago

Ah, I like it.

Life is so nonlinear and filled with twists, turns, steps back, grinds forward, and leaps forward. Use it often and enjoy. What were battling here is breaking through rigid, enslaving notions of time's linearity to come out into the free breathing openness of space, or thus sprak Charles Olson. :-)

LAJayhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Astrophysicists would argue that space and time are inextricably linked, though.... ;-)

murph 7 years, 3 months ago

Seems to me everyone's overlooking two big reasons our guards had a less-than-spectacular night. First, that Illini team is TALL. Brady spent a lot of time guarding a guy who was a head taller - and Brady's not a shrimp by any means. Tall really does make a difference in basketball.

The other thing - and this one worries me more than a little - is that I can't help wondering about Tyrel's foot. Coach already said he's not practicing every day to protect it, but there have been a lot of games close together lately. Three in three days in KC can't have been good for it, and this one came on only one day's rest. I hope it holds up - we need him badly.

AsadZ 7 years, 3 months ago

Great game by the TWINS but I have to give MOJ to Tyshawn. He is the one who controlled the offense and made things happen with his driving ability. With him sitting on the bench the offense was stale.

Tyshawn, You have been playing great since coming back from suspension. Continue to excel and lets hang another banner in AFH

SaulGood 7 years, 3 months ago

Stifling defense carried the day. If McCamey was the head of the Illinois body, we were executioners yesterday. I am happy to see the team picked a cause for the game (Self) and followed through. Tyshawn in the clutch - can we continue to expect these kinds of performances? Absolutely. It's a great feeling that he made a believer out of me. Thomas - I saw some downright scary-good moves yesterday, and some good minutes on the boards. The only downsides I had were that it's a little disappointing that we're shooting threes in the halfcourt, yet we don't have bigs set up to box out. This is the only problem I can see with having forwards (Twins) that have immense guard skills. No doubt, they picked up the rebounding slack elsewhere, but the longer we can play offense...You know the rest. If we have an off-day for perimeter shooting, we've got to have a better day on the offensive glass. Guys get fouled more on offensive put-backs, and when Marcus and Markieff get to shoot 10-15 free throws, their percentage goes up.

At the end of it all, stellar game to watch. I was the most worried about this game to date, but our second half of destruction just made my week complete!

Jared Grillot 7 years, 3 months ago

TT has been doing what he was supposed to be doing all along - distribute, and drive the lane, either to score or assist. Maybe it was the benching/suspension that finally woke him up, but definitely impressed with the turnaround. I would say it's about time, but frankly the timing couldn't be better.

Tim Bingaman 7 years, 3 months ago

Tyshawn was THE MAN!!! WOW did he play well! Obviously Keef and MC were too, but I am loving what Tyshawn is bringing right now!

Rock Chalk!

REHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Our steady ball movement and deep bench appear to have worn down both opponents by the final 7 minutes of action. I know that Self has given the green light to most of our players for 3-pt. shooting when they are open. However, sometimes I think that more patient passing might serve better both to elevate our scoring percentage and wear down defenses earlier in these desperate win or go home tournament contests. We churned McCamey's legs to butter at one point in the second half when he took himself to the bench for a break.

HAWKTOPIA 7 years, 3 months ago

I love the dynamics of the Morris twins. Usually you have a player or two who enter the game to inject the physicality needed to tame a few opponents. M and M bring it whenever they have to, spot on! They then transition right back to the skilled, unselfish, dynamic duo that runs the floor, attacks the rim, and rebounds with tenacity. Great Play!

I love to watch the Jayhawks methodically turn the opposition inside out by passing the perimeter and having the bigs reposition on the reverse for dominant inside shots. Work it Hawks!


KGphoto 7 years, 3 months ago

hawktopiabigeastlover: I'm surprised you didn't have Georgetown in there :)

John Boyle 7 years, 3 months ago

Looking at your bracket. WOW showing a little too much love for the Big Least or Little East or whatever else Charles likes to call them. There was talk of them putting 11 or 12 teams in the tournament before the season even began. All their teams started off rated too high which made all of their strength of schedules inflated. I could not be happier to see them failing miserably. I think this tournament has pointed out that the mid-majors deserve more teams in and the "power" conferences should have a limited number of teams, no team with a losing record in conference should be allowed in the tournament unless they win their conference tournament. I'm not necessarily a MVC fan but I would rather have seen WSU and Northern Iowa in the field and cut the Big East to 9 teams.

Hank Cross 7 years, 3 months ago

Agree-No team with an under .500 record in conference should be allowed in unless they win their conference tourney.

Andy Tweedy 7 years, 3 months ago

Has anybody else felt almost sick with these stupid camera angles CBS is breaking out on occasion? We completely missed Elijah's dunk and Brady underneat move because we had some sort of floor shot or ceiling shot. They don't stay with them long, but they are absolutely driving me crazy!

KGphoto 7 years, 3 months ago

I think you should patent the word "underneat" because that's the only way to describe it.

Jared Grillot 7 years, 3 months ago

double-plus ungood

"Distracting" is a serious understatement. How are we supposed to see what's going on when the camera is literally on the floor?

mplsnehawk 7 years, 3 months ago

I could not agree with you more. I'm assuming that these "art shots" are from a director who is bored because s/he is forced to do sports broadcasts instead of indie movies or who thinks s/he will win some type of cinematography award for artistic achievement. Especially annoying are the "fish eye" lens shots from above. Enough to induce motion sickness. The different angles are nice for replays, but should not be used for live action.

SaulGood 7 years, 3 months ago

Absolutely agree. My wife almost has to turn away when they go to the cable-view due to nausea. I can only call it "cable-view" because I usually see it done by suspending wires over the court that the cameras travel along. It makes it shaky and nauseating, and as you so correctly pointed out, means you don't get the up-close view of stellar plays. +1 to underneat, I agree you should copyright it too.

Ian Brown 7 years, 3 months ago

So are you morons insinuating Brady should have been "neater" on that lay-in? And KGphoto, I think there are many different superlatives to describe that play, but I think the most fitting comes from Charlie Sheen.. It's called WINNING. Stop being a hater you douche.

Jared Grillot 7 years, 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure they are, if you read the rest of the comments, that, while "underneat" was a typo, they took to using the term to refer to the eye-straining, action-blocking camera angles. Read more carefully next time before you start the name calling. They were, quite obviously, angry that they didn't get to see those plays because they camera director was trying to be fancy.

Andy Tweedy 7 years, 3 months ago

You are correct, sir, it was indeed supposed to be "underneath"

Andy Tweedy 7 years, 3 months ago

You are correct, sir, it was intended to read "underneath"

Jonathan Allison 7 years, 3 months ago

the kudos for the newly minted 'underneat" were absolutely not suggesting that Brady's nifty baseline reverse lay-up was less than neat.

It was describing a neat play in which Brady drove underneath the basket.

As for the camera angles.

I was a little peaved that they didn't show replays of the two plays mentioned above.

I actually like some of the creative views, as long as they show practical replays of impressive shots.

Ian Brown 7 years, 3 months ago

I suppose you're probably correct. Forgive me KG for the uncouth remark.

Sometimes I believe my English degree was of great disservice. I find my self over-analyzing words and phrases to the point that their actual meaning dissolves into some unused region of my scattered brain.

As for the camera angles, I am in complete concurrence. Those, I would consider "underneat"--according to my misconstrued interpretation and definition of the word, of course.

SaulGood 7 years, 3 months ago

Man. I read this after your apology to KG, and I'm still a little stunned. I was just pleased that Brady's layup went under, and it was neat. Now when I think of that play I'm going to think of you instead. Jeez.

MimiHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

Since the KU game seemed to have SO many more of the crazy camera angle shots than any of the other games, I got to thinking it was CBS's revenge for the avalanche of phone calls and emails they received after the Great Sun Spot Incident of 2011 ...

jayhawktalk 7 years, 3 months ago

The play those last 10 minutes was surgically precise and beautiful to watch.

If I were a recruit watching that game, I cannot imagine leaving with any feeling other than a tremendous desire to a part of it.

BCRavenJHawkfan 7 years, 3 months ago

What I am more sick over are these never ending TV timeouts. Illinois benefitted big time on three of them. The first one in the first half was a huge momentum killer.

The other sickening thing was Marv "women's panties" Albert. It's the Morris twins, of which Marcus is one of.

With lower seeds left in the Southwest bracket I hope our guys understand how much bigger the target on their backs just got.

justinryman 7 years, 3 months ago

I put this under another one of your post, hope this helps on when and why TV timeouts are called.

TV timeouts are the same for every televised game in college basketball. First dead ball after the 16:00 min mark along with the 12:00, 8:00 and 4:00 minute marks. It's been that way for a good long time now.

Illinois used some of their TO's right before the TV timeouts, so then since they called one at the 11:45 mark and there wasn't a dead ball, the TV TO gets called on the next dead ball even if it's only been :10 seconds off the clock.

Plus most teams will use a TO in the first half, cause if they don't they lose it anyway.

Jeff Coffman 7 years, 3 months ago

However in the tournament instead of a Full (2 min timeout) they are actually an extra 30 seconds. In regular play, you get 5 timeouts (1 you have to use in the first half else you lose it). In regular season games 2 of the timeouts are 30 second timeouts, those don't exist in the tournament.

Additionally, halftimes are 20 mins during the regular season and 25 mins during the tournament. So in reality there is an additional amount of time spent on commercial breaks.

Brian Powell 7 years, 3 months ago


1) fans in orange with their arms folded sprinkled throughout a SEA OF BLUE 2) Brady showing some emotion for maybe the first time in a game, ever?? 3) ANY of the Morris' plays. The Double double-double is a great thing to have on your team! 3b) the huge smiles on their faces after those dunks 4) Coach Self's quick handshake afterwards :P 5) highlights of more 'Big' East team getting owned.

Kenneth Johnson 7 years, 3 months ago

I believe that Taylor has finally grown up. He's now playing like a leader, and coming through in the clutch. If he keeps it up, KU might be playing for the national championship.

Ken Johnson (KU MS '70)

JayCeph 7 years, 3 months ago

We can't afford to take Richmond lightly. I was at the game in Self's first year when Richmond came into Allen and broke the Jayhawks' homecourt winning streak against non-con opponents. I still grouse about that day...


Focus on Richmond and survive to play on Sunday.

justinryman 7 years, 3 months ago

They went for the 70's vibe on headlines with this game. Another article was headlined by James Taylor's "How sweet it is".

So maybe next weekend they will use children themed headlines, "Itsy Bitsy Spider, KU crushes over matched Richmond" ????

Debbie Mangen 7 years, 3 months ago

I'm enjoying reading all the posts to the different articles, but most of all, enjoying the Final Four pics in everyone's brackets. I'm not much of a gambler, but I'd wager no one will go through the tourney with a perfect bracket this year. Who'd a thunk it! What a great NCAA tourney.

Ryan Sullivan 7 years, 3 months ago

This may not be a great team, but it is a very, very good team, and I like the chemistry and togetherness the guys seem to have. The Twins are so tough to match up with when they're on their game. With Taylor taking care of the ball and also getting in the lane and Tyrel and Brady knocking down shots and TRob coming in and banging on the boards and EJ and Selby coming in and trying to do some things on defense, we have a real shot. I've loved our defense so far in the tourney; that may be the most impressive thing so far.

BCRavenJHawkfan 7 years, 3 months ago

And to think that there was a time when we all would beg, plead, cry, and insist that the twins try to dunk or do something approaching a dunk......... Now look at them!

I know I was harsh on them some three years ago.

justinryman 7 years, 3 months ago

This is a "team" in every sense of the word. it seemed like everybody couldn't for Selby to start over Brady this year, and at first, WOW! He justified his headlines. But Brady has started went to the bench and started again and has only gotten better. TT being suspended was the greatest thing ever in a lot of post, that this team would flourish with EJ at the point. And for a game they did, but when TT came back, he to got stronger. The same was said about Little too, people said he wasn't productive and couldn't help this team and was a distraction. He came back and has played his heart out!

I don't think I have to say anything about the HE!! Thomas has had to go through this year, and now that he is healthy and his mind is at rest, he is back in "Beast Mode".

Now if Tyrel's foot would just heel it's self(no pun intended), I think he would be more effective on the D side of the ball, just keep shooting Mr. Reed.

The team fought for coach Self, they smiled for each other, they made the right passes, took the right shots and helped out on D greatly against Illinois.

I don't think after what these guys have all went through individually and as a team they will overlook anyone left in their way. I know that the target is bigger on them now, I mean you are supposed to beat 12 seeds and 11 and 10 seeds, but lets face it they are good teams too.

Teams win National Titles in Basketball, even 'Melo had very good teammates. I think this years KU team has a chip on it's shoulder and it starts with Marcus and his wide shoulders he has put this team on.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk

sf3 7 years, 3 months ago

does anyone know when and what time the team will be returning to allen fieldhouse? so we can go welcome them back? Thanks!

JayDocMD 7 years, 3 months ago

From the Illini newspaper The News-Gazette:

"For one thing, Illinois couldn't make a shot. And that has been its specialty. It wasn't that Illinois (20-14) was intimidated by Kansas (34-2), either. After going toe-to-toe with the Jayhawks, players said No. 1 overall seed Ohio State is better."

Another reason to play with a chip on your shoulder fellas.

jaybate 7 years, 3 months ago

Hey, Illini News-Gazette, one thing is certain today. Intimidated, or not, the Illini got beat decisively.

What can I say? Take away cheap shotting and tripping and the Illini would be a sub .500 team.

Oh, and their smiling chippy of a coach, who can't recruit enough players on his own, to create a bench, he is watching the rest of this tournament, while Self's KU team advances.

Well, there is another thing: their insecure AD that tried to run Self and his staff out of their offices in a fit of pique, when Self, who took the foundation Kruger laid, and lifted them up to be national contenders, left for a better job, the insecure AD couldn't get any revenge this year.

Guenther and Weber should be kissing Self's feet for stocking the cupboard and leaving it full for them, when he left. Roy left KU when his NBA first rounders left.

Weber obviously can't recruit enough talent to keep the program up. He's a decent x's and o's guy, one who knows how to exploit the refs swallowing whistles to keep the games in the broadcast windows. But that's the best one can say for him. When he had Self's talent, which was probably about the best in the country that year, he couldn't get it done.

Illini alums should be asking themselves these questions:

a) what kind of idiot AD can't keep either Kruger, or Self?;

b) what kind of idiot AD squanders the foundation that Kruger and Self laid by hiring a mediocre coach that can't keep recruiting the necessary talent, at a school that Kruger and Self could fill the cupboard at?

justinryman 7 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate, I normally don't finish all of your post, especially in one sitting, but today I read this one. And I couldn't agree more.

Something to add to that is that Luther Heads brother is at Illinois and the only reason Luther went there.....Coach Self.

jaybate 7 years, 3 months ago

Hey, Illini News-Gazette, one thing is certain today. Intimidated, or not, the Illini got beat decisively.

What can I say? Take away cheap shotting and tripping and the Illini would be a sub .500 team.

Oh, and their smiling chippy of a coach, who can't recruit enough players on his own, to create a bench, he is watching the rest of this tournament, while Self's KU team advances.

Well, there is another thing: their insecure AD that tried to run Self and his staff out of their offices in a fit of pique, when Self, who took the foundation Kruger laid, and lifted them up to be national contenders, left for a better job, the insecure AD couldn't get any revenge this year.

Guenther and Weber should be kissing Self's feet for stocking the cupboard and leaving it full for them, when he left. Roy left KU when his NBA first rounders left.

Weber obviously can't recruit enough talent to keep the program up. He's a decent x's and o's guy, one who knows how to exploit the refs swallowing whistles to keep the games in the broadcast windows. But that's the best one can say for him. When he had Self's talent, which was probably about the best in the country that year, he couldn't get it done.

Illini alums should be asking themselves these questions:

a) what kind of idiot AD can't keep either Kruger, or Self?;

b) what kind of idiot AD squanders the foundation that Kruger and Self laid by hiring a mediocre coach that can't keep recruiting the necessary talent, at a school that Kruger and Self could fill the cupboard at?

waywardJay 7 years, 3 months ago

It's simple form Journalism....

TULSA OK, As the seconds ticked down on this second round game, there he stood, assured of victory, and definetely alive. He reminded each player as they came to the sideline.

"There is still at least one more game to play, on to houston." Self said, of this daunting task.

" We pride ourselves in the offseason work we put in and it led us to the victory, the Morris's start March 27th last year to get ready for this year. Last year was over for us, and before some teams were home from the tournament, they were in the weight room preparing for this moment." Self said Elated at the work is Dynamic junior forwards put in.

Sure they played a virtual home game, wit fifty seconds still on the clock, you could hear the ominous end to the Illinois Basketball Season looming. Rock, Chalk, pouring over the crowd. Illinois just didn't have enough fight to overcome the odds on this particular game.

" Every shot we took was about 3-5 feet outside where we would normally take it " Tisdale said, regretfully, fighting back tears after the loss. " those are shots we normally make but tonight they didn't just fall for us.'

" You go back and you watch the tape and you seee things you could have done differently, and possesions that could have changed the game." Weber said " We were down 5, with under 6 left and Dj Rims out a three point er that he'll hit 19 of 20 times in practice. Today shots just didn't fall."

It remains to be seen if this loss will have any lingering effect, there have been calls from the fans for Weber's job down the stretch for a team that has not won consecutive games in almost three months.

" You cannot listen to those fans, because those fans don't see the effort these kids expend on a day to day basis." Weber retorted. " We prepared to play the hand we were dealt and beat a talented UNLV team to get here. today we just couldn't get the job done."

As for Kansas the road continues, next week down the road in San Antonio, against a Richmond team, Who sprung an Upset over Vanderbilt and held off a upstart Morehead State club that had upset magic of their own getting here.

" That was a good team we beat today. They lost to Mizzou who we beat twice this season, So this loss is about where we thought it would be. We put as many points on them as Ohio State, and if that means we are comparable to Ohio State that's right about where we want to be."

As for Illinois, the focus turns towards preparation for next year, and in their eyes a hopeful return match.

" yea, the NCAA has the occasional practical joke in there, and could possibly set us up again next year, man. Who Knows, I know We just want another chance at this game tomorrow." Sophomore Brandon Paul said after the game.

waywardJay 7 years, 3 months ago

( See any idiot can do this sort of journalism...... For those concerns none of these quotes were actually real or even remotely intended to be real.... I was just making a point about the News gazette's Journalistic intergrity. )

Redlandsjhawk 7 years, 3 months ago

re camera angles; if I were at the game I don't see a scenario where I would be lying with my chin on the floor, so why would I be interested.... oh never mind.

Glad to see the bench hasn't shortened. Believe we used 10 players in each game.

I'm going to smash every spider I see this week. Hope KU does the same.

Whoever posted earlier this year that we will go as far as TT can take us, could you please forward me some lottery numbers? Before Tuesday if possible, thanks.

KU_FanSince75 7 years, 3 months ago

Slayr----Nice! I have already got my Raid, though!

100 7 years, 3 months ago

Lets do some more vicious, clean, swarming attacking D..... for...

40 minutes...... For

4 more games!!!!!

This, from the Chicago Tribune, regarding the Illinois' team & its trouble scoring yesterday:


"But ultimately, they were a team that would go only as far as McCamey, their best player, was able to take them. He hit his first shot, a 3-pointer, then did not hit again until 2:13 to play -- a meaningless layup. Kansas' defense, led by guard Tyshawn Taylor, ground him to the core. Whatever tricks McCamey tried didn't work.

"They swarmed me all night," McCamey said.

Step-back move? Somebody was in his face. Call for a ball screen? Kansas hedged him away from the basket. Drive to the hoop? Multiple defenders were there to greet him."


......... That's championship level Jayhawk defense the man from Chicago is talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!

And after we do this for 40 minutes for 4 more games......

Get ready for one helluva parade Jayhawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy Tweedy 7 years, 3 months ago

There is a lot of Tyshawn love going on lately, which is great. But one thing I haven't seen a lot of regards free throws. I cringe sometimes when we get the foul called during the 1-on-1. But not when it's Tyshawn. If it's him or Tyrel at the line, I know they're going in!!! I suppose I should give Brady some love on that, too, but there is nobody I'd rather have at the line lately than Tyshawn!

hawk_of_ages 7 years, 3 months ago

Yes, good point, and of all our guards, TT has shown the best knack for getting to the line.

SaulGood 7 years, 3 months ago

Well put Chalk, I agree we've been remiss! After reading your post I remember being confident he was at the line...well hey, thanks for one more reason to feel like the team's firing on all cylinders!

Luan Do 7 years, 3 months ago

tyrel reed and brady morningstar kept getting beat to the basket and were too slow to moving through screens. we'll get killed by a good 3 point shooting team.

hawk_of_ages 7 years, 3 months ago

Illinois was supposed to be a good 3-point shooting team.

REHawk 7 years, 3 months ago

If TT stays focused and relatively careful for three more games, we should see the Jayhawks move along smoothly to the National Championship contest. Bill Self and staff have worked some marvelous magic in late season efforts to stabilize the point guard play. Tyshawn, most of us have long been aware of your potential. Lately, it has been a joy to see it in productive action. When you are "on," this squad shines.

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