Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Big 12, Fox working on long-term TV deal


The Big 12 Conference is nearing a cable agreement with Fox that will more than triple the conference’s revenue over its current contract, Sports Business Journal reported Monday.

The long-term deal would pay the 10-team league more than $60 million a year, well up from the $20 million it now receives from its cable contract, industry sources told the Business Journal.

Fox, meanwhile, has been in discussions with eight of the league’s schools about establishing a conference-specific channel for a handful of football games, up to 60 basketball games and Olympic sports. The channel would not include programming from the University of Texas, which has partnered with ESPN on a new Longhorns channel, or the University of Oklahoma, which is planning its own channel, as well.

KU is among the eight Big 12 schools talking to Fox about a college sports channel to carry its events.

The two arrangements — Fox’s cable deal with the league and Fox’s potential channel with the eight teams — are separate conversations, sources told the Sports Business Journal. Fox’s cable deal with the Big 12 must be completed first so that the network knows how much content is available for a conference channel. The conference office is not involved in the talks about a channel for the eight schools.

The Big 12’s current cable contract with Fox runs through the 2011-12 academic year and will pay the league $20 million in the final season.


Martin Rosenblum 8 years, 8 months ago

Please include a "Sun Spot" addendum to the contract!

5DecadeHawk 8 years, 8 months ago

I'd much prefer that FOX (and any other network that gets a TV contract with KU or the Big12) be required to pay extra for each game that they don't air the opening tip/kickoff all the way to the final horn. Like triple or quadruple for that game.

No more allowing East Coast games to run long and cut into KU games, or cutting away from games to get to another game, unless they pay the confrence a bunch of extra cash.

William Daniels 8 years, 8 months ago

This is what I was talking about! I wondered back when Texas signed their deal with ESPN whether that would affect Kansas monetarily or not. Well, here is a possibile example of that. If Fox signs with the Big 12 Conference, won't Texas get a big share of that money because of the conference revenue sharing rules? That would be simply wrong.

MWShields 8 years, 8 months ago

It's important to remember that the Longhorn Network is for non-revenue sports (i.e. women's basketball, track, rowing) and is not for football. As far as ESPN goes, they are simply providing a backbone for Texas to build their network. Texas football and Oklahoma football will be negotiated in the Fox deal with the rest of the conference. The other 8 schools are working as a group with Fox to create a network to show non-revenue sports and those 8 schools will split the money among themselves.

It's also important to remember that the state of Texas is the value not the University of Texas, this deal with the other 8 schools still includes 3 other schools in Texas so this could be a sizable deal for us too.

William Daniels 8 years, 8 months ago


Thanks for the thoughtful reply. That certainly alleviates my annoyance with Texas :)

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 8 months ago

are you sure about that? i thought it covered football with one of the better games (prob aTm) specifically going to the network.

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 8 months ago

i can't see texas softball and track and field covering the millions espn spent for the contract

100 8 years, 8 months ago

Anyone notice what jersey was easily seen behind Vitale's head on Sunday, hanging above a trophy with a net around it?


Notice a flag above his head?


When he leaned to his right for a split second, it was possible to make out another jersey behind him, hanging on the championship trophy, perfectly behind Vitale's coconut nearly the entire time.


More fuel for our fire.

From our player's perspectives, that loss to UT at home after not getting a wink of sleep still resonates with the national media. That's good.

Most of us understand the unfortunate other side of this... That Texas just signed a 300 million deal with the network & is officially ESPN's newest product.

Hopefully that will give our guys some fire too.

I mean really, we just finished off Texas not only in the league but in the tourney... And Vitale is gonna hang two Texas products behind his nugget & play peek-a-boo with the champion's jersey, blocking it for nearly the entire segment with his eyebrows?

I seriously hope the Morris brothers saw that & are taking that to heart....

No matter how you slice it, money or underappreciation for the conference winner....

Major Disrespect.

And shame on Vitale.


I want the Morris brothers to win 6 & we can all sit back & enjoy the post game ESPN broadcast where the entire studio is colored in burnt orange.

Rock Chalk boys.

It's time.

Get your convertibles ready.

We're about to knock down six burnt orange bowling pins.

xfitter 8 years, 8 months ago

Sounds like Texas and Oklahoma would be excluded from the deal, they have their own contracts being worked out separate from the rest of the Big 12.

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 8 months ago

new york yankees theory: drive the market on a player or coach so high that if you don't get him, you cripple the other teams finances.

what do you think is going to happen when texas or ou start paying their coaches and assistants salaries that are off the chart? how do you think hcbs is going to take it when rick barnes and staff start pulling in way more than he does?

jayhwx3003 8 years, 8 months ago

They can pull in as much $$$ as they want. All HCBS has to do is show them his rings, and trophy's. Money can't buy you everything.

jayhwx3003 8 years, 8 months ago

And I'm positive he'd be getting a raise of his own, since we receive more $$$ from the new deal.

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 8 months ago

I'd love to think you're right, money isn't everything (right Boone Pickens and osu offer) but...and yes we will get more money. But it's not shared equally. So our cut will not even be close to that of the south schools.

Andy Tweedy 8 years, 8 months ago

You might think that, but a couple years ago we were third in the conference in revenue behind OU and UT. Ahead of A&M, OSU and Nebraska. So don't be surprised if it's not so much the case.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 8 months ago

As of the latest reporting period, KU is still third in the conference in revenue, just ahead of Texas A&M and behind Texas and Oklahoma. Lew Perkins is greatly responsible for that position; before him, KU was not even in the top 6.

vd 8 years, 8 months ago

When is ND going to offer BS a huge contract, since they've been getting big paydays from NBC for years?

ahpersecoachingexperience 8 years, 8 months ago

great example. nd which has a contract expiring soon (so they will be getting paid also) has been able to pay high coaching dollars with little to no results. their tv contract has allowed them to fire and find a replacement (hasn't worked out, but they get to try) where schools like kansas have to sit and wait it out. see bonnie and turner!

Chicago_JHawk 8 years, 8 months ago

"The channel would not include programming from the University of Texas..."

Does this mean that Texas (and OU, eventually) CANNOT appear on the new network per their agreement with ESPN? Would that exclude airing any games involving UT? Curious as to how this might all work out. Obviously, most KU-UT BBall games are on Nat'l TV, but FB not so much - it would be a shame if they couldn't be televised because of contractual agreements.

Brian Skelly 8 years, 8 months ago

Interesting. Positive information, but Id be curious about the specifics of it.

I for one dont like the idea of the Big 12 losing out on "Big Monday" with ESPN. Not to mention, how often does KU get on ESPN anyway. About 80% of their games? I for one cant sit here and if were losing that its a good deal for us.

I'd prefer something like this offered by ESPN simply because of the platforms it can cover. Obviously, FOX could do the same, but I dont think anyone in the media business would equate that to ESPNs coverage of this stuff currently. Doesnt mean it cant or wont be. But its well behind now.

Not to mention, how is it going to "work". In reality 7.5mil fish for the Big 12/10 schools that are NOT OU and Texas is pretty good when you consider it.

Separate media contracts amongst the schools and "partners" seems like a recipe for the eventual separation of the Big 12. How can it not? Even if its years down the road.

Take the money or find something else though. KU should take the money.

Chicago_JHawk 8 years, 8 months ago

I don't get the impression that the deal with ESPN for Big Monday is in jeopardy here...the Big 10 network, for example, only covers games not televised by ESPN/CBS, etc.

Wouldn't a new Big 12 deal be the same?

Jayhawk444 8 years, 8 months ago

This is interesting. EVERYBODY watches ESPN and KU benefits from that exposure even during coverage of other games, or even other sports. We see KU in teasers for upcoming games, announcers talking about a KU game they covered prior, highlights from KU games shown during later games, even video clips in ESPN brand promotion commercials. You rarely see Arizona or UCLA getting exposure like this...because the Pac 10 is a FOX conference.

Joe Baker 8 years, 8 months ago

Except for ut shorhorns. They have their big tv contract, right?

Please tell me this excludes any school with an already sick tv a$$ contract.

Please tell me they can't double dip into the conference pot.

Please tell me CU and NU will not renig on their jumps.

What you do have is my whole word, and it's stronger than oak. - LOL

There's another Jerry Maguire quote I'll use if any of this is true. It's not nice either.

Jason Roberts 8 years, 8 months ago

As I said before, the Big 12 Conference should be renamed "Texas Hold 'Em"

Tippyhawk 8 years, 8 months ago

As long as I don't see them on CBSucks, I don't care.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 8 months ago

If it means I get to see the Jayhawks less, a real possibility as I live in the south, then no good. I'd rather miss the first five minutes of a game because of the Big East, than not even have the option to check it out on ESPN3 if nothing else works.
I generally dislike Fox for their terrible baseball coverage and even for their mediocre football coverage.

Michael Maris 8 years, 8 months ago

What is the deal with RockChalkTalk website spreading Computer Viruses? I've been to their site 3 times in hte past week (or since the day of Ed Manning passing). Since that day, my computer has been infected 2 times (in 3 appearances) with computer viruses.

So, what is up with that?

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