Friday, March 11, 2011

KU notebook: Jayhawks had tough time going inside against Cowboys



KU vs. Oklahoma State

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Kansas defeated Oklahoma State 63-62 in the first round of the Big 12 Tournament on Thursday, March 10, 2011 at Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

— KU had trouble working the ball inside against Okie State’s zone defense. Marcus Morris had 16 points off 7-of-15 shooting but just four points off 1-of-4 shooting the second half. Markieff Morris had 10 points off 3-of-5 shooting and Thomas Robinson one point. He missed all five floor shots.

“I think we always make an effort to get the ball inside, even if it doesn’t look like it,” senior Brady Morningstar said. “They were playing back in the post. When we were throwing it in there, they were harassing them. It was tough for our bigs to get good looks. We missed a lot of shots around the rim and a ton of threes. It’s something we’ve got to work on.”

“I think they sucked in more. They dared us to shoot the three. We definitely shot it,” Markieff Morris said.

KU hit 23 of 64 shots (.359) while missing 20 of 25 threes.

“They put everybody in the lane,” KU coach Bill Self said. “You cram everybody in the lane, you have to make shots to stretch it. One thing we’ve done a great job this year is get the ball inside, primarily because they have got to guard guys on the perimeter. They played behind, pushed us out. They backed all the way off. We shot too many threes, in large part because they forced us to shoot threes.”


Elijah Johnson and Tyshawn Taylor took turns on OSU guard Keiton Page, who hit six of 12 shots (two of six from three) and scored 23 points. Page was 9-for-9 from the line.

“I think he is the best defending out of our starters, the most sound,” Self said of Johnson, who shadowed Page on OSU’s final possession, forcing Jean-Paul Olukemi to hoist the final long-range shot at the buzzer. “The biggest reason is, he didn’t go for shot fakes. Some other guys have been known to do that in recent memory.”

Of course, Johnson didn’t play a perfect game, either.

“Not great, because we come out of a timeout and we call a play, and the play doesn’t work, and he dribbles out the shot clock,” Self said of KU’s final possession that resulted in a Morningstar airball. “So that wasn’t great. ... But I thought he did fine. Against a zone, I thought he may get a shot at the top of the key, and that’s why he was in there.”

Three meetings

KU has played a team three times in one season six times in the Self era. The Jayhawks have swept all the meetings.

No. 1 seed coming

Self has been told by some media experts his team has wrapped up a No. 1 seed in the NCAAs.

“I don’t think what happens from this point forward will affect our seeding,” Self said.

Dooley on Wyoming list?

Kansas University assistant coach Joe Dooley is being mentioned in Wyoming media reports as a possible candidate for the vacant University of Wyoming head-coaching position. Dooley worked one year as an assistant at Wyoming. He also worked at Mountain West school New Mexico and has head-coaching experience at East Carolina.


The United States Basketball Writers Assn. announced its all-district teams. Self was named coach of the year and Marcus Morris player of the year in district six, which encompasses Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, North Dakota and South Dakota. Markieff Morris was also named to the 10-member all-district six team.

Stats, facts

KU has 30 victories for the fourth time in the last five seasons, 10 times in school history. .. KU is 104-53 all-time versus OSU. ... KU advanced to the tourney semifinals for the 13th time in Big 12 history and 31st time overall. ... KU is 29-7 at the Big 12 tourney. ... Self is 232-45 at KU, 439-150 all-time. ... Marcus Morris led KU in scoring for the fifth straight game with 16 points. He moved into 29th place on the KU all-time scoring chart with 1,268. He passed Jerod Haase who finished his KU career with 1,264 points. ... Brady Morningstar scored 11 points, including nine in the second half. Morningstar now has six double-figure scoring games, however, this was his first since scoring 16 points versus Colorado on Feb. 19. ... Markieff Morris reached double-figure scoring for the 26th time with 10 points. ... Marcus Morris is now 20th on the KU all-time rebounding chart with 613 caroms. He passed four former Jayhawks with his 11 rebounds Thursday, including Kenny Gregory (603), Pierre Russell (607), Richard Scott (607) and Darnell Jackson (612). .. Morningstar had four assists and one turnover in 36 minutes giving him 64 assists and just 15 turnovers in his last 17 games. ... KU is 26-0 when out-rebounding its opponent. KU out-rebounded OSU 42-36, including an 18-8 advantage on the offensive glass.


100 10 years, 9 months ago

"Go find a local goal & shoot for a couple hours tomorrow AM boys..."

And pass. Pass. Pass. Pass. Rebound. Score. Play ferocious D, like a pit bull guarding his fire hydrant from a poodle.


"Just do your best.... That is success..."

--John Wooden

Lawrence_Pilot 10 years, 9 months ago

That was just an AWFUL performance. They play like that in the NCAA's and we'll be home in the 2nd round again. Sigh.

20 of 25 3's missed: Look, if the ball won't go in, STOP SHOOTING IT. Don't just keep jacking up ugly 3-balls. QUIT. If you're a guard, test the paint every time. Try to make an opening for your small body. If it's not there, pass it off and let another guy test. You have 35 sec. There is no excuse for not using 30 of those EVERY TIME. That is just basic, old-fashioned basketball.

Why won't Self enforce anything? How can you jack up 3 after 3 and not get benched?

Does anyone else cringe every time Tyshawn touches the ball? I always think, "Here comes a turnover".

Gary Wirsig 10 years, 9 months ago

You pretty much expressed my sentiments exactly.

I love the Hawks, and after all they are 30-2, but there seem to be too many defensive lapses to make a deep run in the tournament - I hope I'm wrong.

While trusted players are told to shoot their way out of a slump, at what point do you stop wasting possessions on 3 after clanging 3?

Yes, I nearly always cringe when Tyshawn touches the ball. Whether it's an errant, lazy pass or another missed teardrop from 5 to 8 feet, he seems to be in the middle of most of our turnovers/bad plays when he's in there. On the other hand he has some pretty spectacular offensive plays and defensive steals. What are ya gonna do?

Regardless, I will be cheering passionately for the Hawks at 6PM tonight!! RCJHGKU!!

hawk_of_ages 10 years, 9 months ago

I didn't see the game, but the article seems to explain pretty clearly why they kept shooting 3s -- that's what the defense was giving them. If we'd shot our usual percentage on those, we would have won this game in a walk.

Gary Wirsig 10 years, 9 months ago

Copy that hawk. My only point is after so many misses, can't we try something else a little more often? Try to take what the defense isn't giving. Force the issue on drives a little more?

I get Jaybate's point too, though. Coach feels that not a lot rides on wins or losses in our tournament, so that has to have an effect on how he leads the team. Today's game may shed a little more light.

jaybate 10 years, 9 months ago

That was a great performance, considering Self sent them out flat as pancakes, they had a bad night with the gun, and Travis "The Dwarf" Ford amped his guys to the stratosphere and introduced XTReme Tripping to college basketball. Self is saving everything for the Madness, as he should. Wake up! Or go back to Hoops 101 Remedial.

Regarding Tyshawn, como se dice: "30-2?" in remedial Sportugese, as PhogAdvisory uses the term. :-)

xfitter 10 years, 9 months ago

Second half D was pretty good, hold a team in the 60s and make shots you should win every time. Just missed 3s, we usually take close to 20 a game anyway and I don't hear anyone complaining when we make those. Three point shooters aren't going to quit because it's not going in, KU fans should know that now. This team is figuring out how to make consecutive stops down the stretch, and shots we normally make weren't falling yesterday. They were able to fight back from a deficit and win at this point in the season that's all that matters. Win and advance boys, win and advance.

Kyle Neuer 10 years, 9 months ago

I've got to give T-Rob a shout-out for drawing critical fouls on OSU's bigs in the second half. His offensive stats may not have been all that great, but he played incredibly smart.

jaybate 10 years, 9 months ago

“I don’t think what happens from this point forward will affect our seeding,” Self said.

Translation: Self thinks they are now guarantied a 1, or 2 seed, and that was the mission. He is not going to amp KU for CU either. No new wrinkles. Those get saved for the Madness. Nothing but grind it out, to try to discourage opponents from playing grind it out against KU. It almost appears Self would not mind an extra day to get ready for the Madness. Still, they'll go out and give it their best shot short of amping and new wrinkles. Get ready for more grind it out boys and girls, unless KU just shoots the lights out. Definitely a game KU could afford to lose (and Self would probably not mind losing), to avoid having to waste an amping in a B12 tourney championship game against, say, Baja Oklahoma. This is coaching strategy at its best. Self is a genius.

Jonathan Allison 10 years, 9 months ago

I have a feeling that the guys aren't going to need a coach Self amping anyway, for this one. I think they are going to be amped just to shake off the ugly game yesterday.

Oh yeah, and “I don’t think what happens from this point forward will affect our seeding,” means that any post-season anxiety that the team had about the OSU game and their tourney seeding is gone. There will be no nerves tonight. I anticipate a loose bunch of guys to come out running and gunning and making shots. The OSU game was a classic trap. It was the world cup, and this is a friendly match.

I just have a feeling they'll come out looking like they're playing Longwood or Miami (OH) for this one.

jaybate 10 years, 9 months ago

Post Script: KU wins if they win and they win if they lose. A classic Self straddle of a meaningless tournament.

Danny Hernandez 10 years, 9 months ago

I'm curious why every team we play has guards that will drive the ball on us, and either get the shot off or get fouled. Why don't we drive the paint more often? We should just drive and drive and drive, drawing fouls in the process..

Even Keiton Page drove the lane a few times drawing fouls....just for the life of me can't understand why our guards don't do more of that

Kristen Downing 10 years, 9 months ago

Maybe we don't drive cause we don't practice free throw shooting. It is pretty embarassing to get on the line and shoot like KU did. Keiton shoots around 90% and is not worrying about protecting his body as he is not NBA bound.

JayCeph 10 years, 9 months ago

KU even shot an airball from the stripe... inexcusable.

I wish I could remember who shot it. Anyone remember?

redlegger 10 years, 9 months ago

Why? Seriously, what does it matter?


jaymar74 10 years, 9 months ago

Good God people we are 30-2, 63-5 over the past 2 years, what in the world do you expect-perfection every minute, every game.

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