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Kansas defeats Missouri, 70-66

  • 11 a.m., March 5, 2011
  • Mizzou Arena, Columbia, MO

Sunday, March 6, 2011

Seventh heaven: Jayhawks beat Missouri, claim league title outright

Kansas players Josh Selby, Thomas Robinson, Markieff Morris and Marcus Morris (22) collide in celebration on the court after defeating Missouri 70-66 and clinching the outright Big 12 conference championship Saturday, March 5, 2011 at Mizzou Arena.

Kansas players Josh Selby, Thomas Robinson, Markieff Morris and Marcus Morris (22) collide in celebration on the court after defeating Missouri 70-66 and clinching the outright Big 12 conference championship Saturday, March 5, 2011 at Mizzou Arena.

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— Marcus Morris chose casual attire for a rare in-season, Saturday night out on the town.

“I didn’t bring it here. I’m going to wear it tonight (in Lawrence),” Morris, Kansas University’s junior forward, said of his yet-to-be-used 2010-11 Big 12 regular-season championship T-shirt.

Tucked away in his apartment closet since late Wednesday night — when the Jayhawks topped Texas A&M for a share of their seventh straight conference title — the shirt was ready to be revealed after Saturday’s 70-66 victory over Missouri in Mizzou Arena.

It was a victory that not only snapped MU’s 17-game homecourt win streak, but also guaranteed the No. 2-ranked Jayhawks (29-2 overall, 14-2 Big 12) the league’s undisputed, outright crown.

“We didn’t celebrate that much. It was OK,” Morris said of Saturday’s locker-room frivolity in Columbia.

“It’s very satisfying, (but) we are kind of used to it. Six in a row before this, now seven in a row ... not to sound arrogant, but we have a bigger goal now. Now there are two other championships to win. We’ll try to focus on that,” added Morris, who scored 21 points and grabbed 10 rebounds on a day KU outrebounded the No. 22-ranked Tigers 49-29.

KU will open its quest for a Big 12 postseason tournament title against Oklahoma State or Nebraska at 11:30 a.m. Thursday in Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo. After that, it’s on to the NCAA Tournament, where KU is in line for a No. 1 seed and possible first- and second-round games in close-to-home Tulsa, Okla.

Saturday, it was time not to look too far ahead, but celebrate the crown the Jayhawks worked hard to claim all winter long.

“It was fun, real fun, seven in a row, whatever you expected or could imagine, that’s what happened in the locker room. We couldn’t wait to get in there, couldn’t wait,” sophomore guard Elijah Johnson said after scoring four points with three rebounds and two assists in 26 minutes against MU (22-9, 8-8).

He also played sticky defense against MU’s backcourt players, who hit just three of 23 threes to KU’s two of seven.

“I would tell you what he was doing in there,” Johnson joked of passer-by Mario Little, “but I don’t think that’s for the public to know.”

It’s safe to say there probably was some whooping, hollering and hugging in the victorious locker room.

There also may have been some sighs of relief. KU led by as many as 15 points (63-48) with 4:11 left and four (63-59) at 1:32 before Tyrel Reed steadied the ship with a three at 1:05 — one that halted MU’s hopes of stealing a shocking victory.

“We think of it as, a lot of teams can’t win one (title), so to get to two all the way to seven, that’s a big deal, especially when you have some legendary coaches telling you that’s a big deal,” Johnson said.

“It speaks for itself,” Johnson added, asked what seven-straight titles says about the program. “It’s Kansas. We do some impossible stuff here.”

Like continue to battle through adversity.

Several Jayhawks said they had heavy hearts leading up to the big game. Assistant coach Danny Manning’s dad, Ed, died Friday.

“I texted him last night and had some time with him,” Marcus Morris said of Danny Manning, who remained with the team for Saturday’s game. “I told him I never had a father figure in my life, and he is that to me. I just tell him my prayers are with him, and I love him.”

Sophomore forward Thomas Robinson, who also is quite close to KU’s big-man coach, responded with 15 points and 13 boards in just 17 minutes.

“Danny had a lot to do with this,” Robinson said. “He is going through something with the death of his father. I especially knows how he feels with that.”

Robinson’s mother, grandmother and grandfather all died in a span of three weeks earlier this season.

“We all talked to Danny and said we’re here for him. He’s handled it great,” said Robinson, who had 13 points and eight rebounds the second half as Markieff Morris (10 points, eight boards) battled foul problems. “I feel I handled mine as well, but he is doing his way better than I did.”

KU coach Bill Self — “I’m really proud of our guys because three weeks ago we had no chance,” he said of the title — indicated he felt the players’ concern for Manning.

“Danny is a unique guy. He didn’t want anybody to know. I didn’t tell our team. Our players saw it on the ESPN scroll (Friday) across the bottom and came to me and said, ‘Is that true?’’’ Self said of former KU assistant coach Ed Manning’s passing.

“I said, ‘Yes, but he doesn’t want to make a big deal out of it right now.’ That’s how he is personality-wise. So the guys talked to him. There was no announcement: ‘This is what’s going on.’ Nothing like that. He said he didn’t want that.

“I told him, ‘You need to go home.’ He said, ‘No, I need to be here.’ He said, ‘Let’s do business as usual.’

“Ed Manning is a heck of a guy. Everybody knows that. Danny is hurting right now, but he didn’t want anybody to know that. I think the whole team loves him,” Self went on, asked about the big men’s feelings toward Manning. “I think they rallied around him, but it wasn’t a point where it was, ‘Hey, let’s do this for anybody.’ He would never allow us to do that.”

Robinson noted many things motivated him Saturday.

“We had a lot on the table with this game,” Robinson said. “Possibly be No. 1 seed in both tournaments, win the championship outright especially when people have us picked to win it every year, also coming here and breaking the winning streak for Missouri.”

MU’s streak was eighth-longest in the country.

“I don’t think we celebrate yet,” Robinson said. “It was a good win. We accomplished a goal we set, but there’s a bigger fish we want to catch.

“Maybe celebrate a little bit. Not fully yet. Ask me about that tomorrow morning, and I can tell you (about) that.”

Comments

KSA_21_3503 3 years, 8 months ago

Hopefully they don't put too much pressure on themselves for the worthless conference tournament.

jaybate 3 years, 8 months ago

Regarding your alias, does it stand for a criminal statute some have said it stands for?

Regarding your take, it seems oddly disconnected.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

Absolutely, google it JB. It is the Kansas statute # for indecent liberties with a child. And check out the enlightening comment he posted on Feb 8th pertaining to the OSU Student Faces Rape Charge Story. Somewhat puzzling why anyone would say something of that nature on a chat board.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

OK, so just call him a troll, also needless to point out again that such hatefulness in a public forum is a method of acting out. Obviously not getting the attention he needs somewhere. Could have been dropped on his head or whatever. Anyway, time to grow up & move on. Maybe a few lawyer jokes will do it? Ya think? JB can beat these trolls up quite sufficiently, "no malice intended". There are several other very witty posters on this board also. LJW has been getting rid of some of these clowns lately, so likely when he gets enough rope...see ya!

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

Or maybe he's received some pro-bono (free) legal service or advice himself? Indigency will do it.

Michael Auchard 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm not overly sentimental about stuff, especially in sports, but this team is obviously so close. It's a shame so many tragedies have created this bond. But what an amazing bond. FOE is a great description of this team. They really are a family.

waywardJay 3 years, 8 months ago

I cannot remember a more heart raking season of College basketball. Occasionally you see a few injuries here or there, occassionally you see a few deaths to intregal parts of teams, occasionally a coach loses a loved one. Not all in the same season within 1/2 a season.

Net Result. 29-2 14-2, outright conference title win, 1 seed in the big 12 tourney and unless we go one and done in the big 12 tourney another 1 seed in the ncaa tourney.

9 more games at most to cheer on our boys. ENjoy this team while we can.

lee3022 3 years, 8 months ago

They have endured a difficult season. Oklahoma State endured the loss of 8 members of team and staff and two pilots 10 years ago in a plane crash. That tragedy comes readily to mind and I am thankful that no other team has endured this in the intervening years.

This does not diminish what the Jayhawks have done this year. Adversity and challenge forging a tough, determined team (seemingly lacking last year).

Brandon Meek 3 years, 8 months ago

There is one in recent memory that mirrors the trials and tribulations of a season and challenges that forge a true team. It was 2008 and we all know that how one ended. A lot of work to be done, but the catalysts that build the bond and trust necessary among team members have been there. RCJH!

martyks 3 years, 8 months ago

The Jayhawks have endured some amazing things. There's so much to deal with any year, but to add the challenge of coping with the death of loved ones? Impossible. Still, obviously, Marshall, Evansville, and Oklahoma St. folks endured off the scale misery. Also, look up the Loyola Maramount, Hank Gathers story. Putting basketball in perspective is easy when tragedy hits home like it has for this Jayhawks team. Let's hope they can remember the season with one sentence: "Mom, dad, grandpa, grandma, you would have been proud of the Jayhawks today."

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

Some really deserving praise from Dana O'Neil on ESPN's website:

"The burden of being really good at what you do is people tend to take it for granted. So Kansas lost the two players (Cole Aldrich and Sherron Collins) who personified their team and another who was talented enough to be selected in the lottery (Xavier Henry)? So KU is back in the top five anyway? So the Jayhawks have now won at least a share of seven consecutive Big 12 titles? It’s Kansas. That’s supposed to happen. Except if it’s always supposed to happen, why doesn’t anyone else do it? Self’s run of supremacy is wildly impressive and pathetically under appreciated. "

ohmixmaster 3 years, 8 months ago

The Big 12 is #3 in conference RPI, and has 4 teams in the top 25 (probably 5 on Monday). 5 teams in the top 50 RPI (almost six with OKSt at 54). That is hardly a lack of "decent competition".

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

The RPI is not a meaningless poll. It's actually not a poll at all. No one votes on the RPI. It is formula based on winning percentages. So what would you suggest? Using the meaningless opinion of some troll?

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

He does mention the poll yes, but he also mentions the RPI which is not a poll. That was the only thing I was pointing out, was that not everything that poster brought up was a meaningless poll. He was obviously talking about both the polls and the RPI. Learn to read yourself troll.

melrank 3 years, 8 months ago

+1 wouldn't capture the laugh I had on your last line. Nicely done.

Alohahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Yeah. To bad we get such a low quality of troll visiting our board. I suppose you feel the need for some sort of attention, since your own mother realized what she had brought into this world. She probably sends you a mirror each year for your birthday, so you can look at yourself and realize why she ignores you.

PS: Check out some of the rating services, if you have enough brains to do so, and you'll see how the Big 12 compares against the rest of the conferences, you dumb piece of dodo. (Dodo is Hawaiian for what troll's like you eat for lunch each day, and what most people try to avoid stepping in.)

My thanks to Miss O'neill for her expert recognition of the Jayhawk's achievements.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 8 months ago

Aloha--

You are a funny dude. Love to buy you a Corona some day. Keep it funny. Thanks!

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

Troll is way too nice for this joker. Is a self proclaimed rape expert as per his prior postings, plus an ID of Kansas Statute-indecent liberties with a child. This is definitely a poster LJW should ban. Hopefully the only reason he's still on here is law enforcement is tracking him for the bust, or the big Kahuna.

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

I know. It is pointed out on a daily basis and he has never offered up an explanation that I have seen (not that there would be any rational defense for choosing that screen name/user ID). I guess we should just be thankful, for every second he is spent on this website is one less second he's looking at kiddie porn websites.

ohmixmaster 3 years, 8 months ago

It feels good to be defended in such a manner.....I'll just sit back, bask in the sun (well Ohio is actually gray, but I digress....), and let the dodo diet troll try and figure out the difference between the RPI and a "poll".

Rick Arnoldy 3 years, 8 months ago

So - regular season championships are meaningless. And polls are meaningless. Based on your ID, only the "Bar Of Soap" is the only trophy worth winning. How many do you have?

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 8 months ago

I think it is more fair to check the Big 12's pre-conference records v the other major conferences. Our conference held its own..ask the Pac 10. Plus..if you're going back 7 years, then your comment is a cheap shot.

cklarock 3 years, 8 months ago

I couldn't agree more. As fans, we celebrate the NCAA tourney successes the most, but the fact is our league successes speak to consistency over time.

"Wildly impressive and pathetically under appreciated" is exactly right.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, go Coach Self!

Cmill1221 3 years, 8 months ago

I just want to give T-ROB some love! He had great possition and was Unstopable on the offensive boards! If he can make his free ones more consistantly he is going to have his jersey hung in the rafters someday (after 4 years).

ancient_hawk 3 years, 8 months ago

He keeps this up, AND learns to hit his FT's, no way you see him for 4 years.

ancient_hawk 3 years, 8 months ago

He's not nearly as polished yet, but he's easily the more athletic of the three.

Martini_Boy 3 years, 8 months ago

If it's Evil to feel this good after beating MU in their house........... Then call me the DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COJayhawker 3 years, 8 months ago

If you're the Devil, I'll be your happy little minion. I like beating MU, anywhere, anytime. I laugh when I see Missouri drivers on the side of the road broken down, laugh when I see half of their school districts shut down, flooding, famine, disease; all things I wish on the blight across the boarder. I actually moved to Colorado so I couldn't smell that foul odor eminating from Missouri anymore.

Dirk Medema 3 years, 8 months ago

It's not evil at all. It is everything that is good and wholesome.

Remember, we are the good guys, and not just because we won. It is as it should be.

theajayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

I have not seen Manning show much in terms of emotion in his current role. Realize he is a private person but hope he knows how much he is loved and admired. KS is so lucky to have a second person who is almost a Head Coach. With the way Self is coaching, I so hope KS is able to offer Danny enough so he is happy in a role that is not Head Coach.

RockCaCO3 3 years, 8 months ago

I know the seasons not over, but what a ride! Damn this has been (still is) an incredible year. Good luck in the Big 12 tourney boys!

RCJHGKU!!!!!

RockCaCO3 3 years, 8 months ago

Go to any of the major sports websites, and the headline is UNC beating Dook, not KU winning 7 straight conference championships. Yeah, there's no east coast bias. (Or nobody knows about it because no one saw it.)

lee3022 3 years, 8 months ago

Earlier in the day they all trumpeted KU winning 7. You are still correct that the bias is there. Case in point - CBS sent the JV team to broadcast the game. What a lame effort! But isn't it better to wait until we play Duke or UNC and smack them down as we did in 2008? Sweet memories are those. Then the media must acknowledge the reality. The fact is Coach K is the dean of active coaches and deserves some attention for what he has accomplished. Roy, not so much but he does have 2 rings. The Big XII sort of disintegrated this year in conference play as the parity has claimed all the top teams at least a couple of times.

RockChalk26 3 years, 8 months ago

Gus Johnson is hardly a JV broadcaster. I would take him any day of the week.

minnhawk84 3 years, 8 months ago

anytime Dook gets beat by anyone is a good day.

David Leathers 3 years, 8 months ago

Except against NC. I want Roy to fail this time of year, because he's looking for revenge after that game in Oh-Eight, where our boy Aldrich (still with his full set of teeth) locked that phsychotic-looking white guy from Missouri down for what seemed like eternity. Oh what an old-fashioned A** Whoopin that was!! :-)

Rick Arnoldy 3 years, 8 months ago

Disagree on Roy losing. I think Roy truly loved being a Jayhawk. Family issues drew him back to UNC. FOE (shout to KSA_21_3503). You apparently haven't learned what family means, yet. I pity you.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 8 months ago

Yea, and the Game Day Crew is saying that if Carolina wins the ACC Tourney, then, the Tarheels could be a #1 seed in the East. No pressure Roy, if you get a #1 seed.

Neom 3 years, 8 months ago

True, but the goodness gets deluted if it was NC who beat them.

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 8 months ago

Roy is waiting for revenge? I think his 2nd NC probably covered that. I doubt Roy spends much time even thinking about KU.

KansasComet 3 years, 8 months ago

Looking forward to the Big XII Tournament. Should be a nice tune-up for the Big Dance. Time to prove we can win the grind it out-physical-ugly games. I think we will need to win at least two of those to win the National Title.

KGphoto 3 years, 8 months ago

Slightly off topic, but I'm in a CBS bashing mood.

I've never been so torn going into a tournament season. All the greatness of KU's accomplishments on the court will be thinned by CBS's futile effort to catch every moment of every game.

The Morrii could go off in an MOP kinda way, but we'd have to listen to Jim Nance describe it with his abysmal dryness.

Thomas Robinson could immortalize a handful of fallen KU family with a hurricane of fury and atonement. But CBS would cut to Greg Gumbel's hair thing. (What the hell is that by the way? It looks like it has legs.)

Tyshawn Taylor could erupt for 10 turnovers, and somehow everything else in the tourney world would have miraculously stopped. No commercials. Nothing but TT, wild passes and foot dribbles... KU on display... "Here on sssssssCBS!!"

Dick Vitale's head could finally explode during a Duke rant, but we'd be watching the #8 vs #9 pre-game shootaround. That I would never let them live down.

I hate those bastards!

kuae99 3 years, 8 months ago

I wish there were a way to boycott CBS after yesterday's atrocity and still watch college basketball. I called and emailed the locals and emailed the network. Every time, I told them this is why they will never be as good as ESPN, who didn't cut away from one of our games all year. I broke out the $5 words before laying down the 4-letter ones.

TanMan 3 years, 8 months ago

KG...Much like the most important topic of a) Beating MethZoo, and b) winning a 7th straight Big 12 title... the CBS debacle is also the topic. I got this story from the KCStar and wanted to share with everyone:

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/05/2702047/some-fans-miss-out-on-end-of-ku.html

Talk about CBS folk both in KC (culpable) and in NYC (guilty) being in rampant damage control! Read some of the links provided at the right of the article, worth a good laugh at how bad KCTV handled this on their end but how behind CBS is to their competition. Frankly, they got exposed... and now we have to deal with their sorry act for the NCAA Tournament.

jaybate 3 years, 8 months ago

“It’s Kansas. We do some impossible stuff here.” --Elijah Johnson

This may be the single greatest quote about The Legacy I have ever read.

It is eloquent. It is authentic. It is without arrogance. It is true.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 8 months ago

My thoughts exactly---#1. EJ knows his basketball programs!

Dirk Medema 3 years, 8 months ago

My favorite is Coach Self lauding the comeback over the last few weeks by this team to win the Conf for a 7th straight time, then adding, "But they don't hang banners in Allen Fieldhouse for that." What is it now, twice as much as the rest of the league combined?

Hail_To_Thee 3 years, 8 months ago

Well, I must admin.

I picked up my championship T before leaving the Fieldhouse after the aTm win. And I supported it very proudly the very next day. AND i'm very proudly supporting it today as well.

I know, I know. Same shirt 2 days out of the week. When it comes to a seventh straight title, YOU BETCHA.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

:Greg Gumbel's hair thing. (What the hell is that by the way? It looks like it has legs.)

I was thinking it was almost on par with James Brown's rug, or as bad a as those sported by misery players yesterday. You'd think Gumbel made enough dough to get better advice. Am still LMAO over that hair wannabe thing!

Funhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Funny hair comments. Thanks for a good laugh. I'm beginning to think that many men, if not most, who are always in front of a TV camera are wearing wigs.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

High % color the dickens out of it, if it is real.

FairgroveJayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

7 in a row. What a great accomplishment! I hope the Lawrence fan base welcomed the Jayhawks home in droves.

rockchalk_dpu 3 years, 8 months ago

They certainly were more than happy to party with the players last night at the Cave... I was standing at the bar and all of a sudden there was a mass of young co-eds flocking over to the area where I was standing. Then I turned around and saw most of the players chilling in the corner. Hope they didn't have a rough practice the next day cause they closed that place down.

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

Couldn't agree more. I was making the case for Self most of last week when I was on here. Pullen and Martin are getting a lot of late pub., as if the Big 12 season was only 3-4 weeks long.

lee3022 3 years, 8 months ago

Yahoo Sports has already agreed with you and awarded those exact titles to Marcus and Coach Self. They also picked Marcus and Markieff for 1st team All Big XII.

Kye Clark 3 years, 8 months ago

One of the more disappointing things about yesterday's game was that due to the lack of flow, constant fouling, commercial time-outs...we were unable to experience Gus Johnson at his best. How great would it have been to have him calling the first game between KU-Misery?

lee3022 3 years, 8 months ago

The Championship of the Big-XII is a great achievement and my first priority for the team every year (in terms of winning). It is done through 16 games and allows the best team in the conference to rise to the top, de3spite one or two slips. The tournaments offer no such opportunity as there are so many teams who can play above their talent on a given day. It takes both talent and luck to get to the Final Four. So, well done Jayhawks. You have made us rejoice once again this year in dominating the league (last year for the Big XII).

Big XII Tournament, next step, is an opportunity to repay both K-State and Texas. Both are favored to be matched up with us. Time to put those mis-steps behind us.

The NCAA Tournament is shaping up to be a great opportunity. With the likelihood of a #1 seed the experts are predicting us to the Southwest Region. This means we play in Tulsa, San Antonio and Houston for out three potential venues while Texas and Texas A&M must leave the state. Good for recruiting and good for our fans to reduce their travel.

Finally, Coach Bill Self and staff are once again showing themselves to be the best in this business. They have the team peaking at the right time. Naturally the coaches cannot make plays for the players but they prepare them well and put them in the best position to succeed.

Andy Tweedy 3 years, 8 months ago

One thing has really irked me about the two Misery games this year. I am finding it impossible to keep my level of hate for those guys at the level it should be. Anderson seems like a pretty nice guy and I can't really find anybody to hate on their roster. For the last 20 years, there has always been a Norm Stewart, Jason Sutherland or Quinn Snyder that made it so darn much fun to hate those guys. Where is that guy for me to hate? Don't get me wrong, I still hate Misery, but it's just not the same. Here's hoping someone hires Coach Anderson away and hires another giant tool like Snyder!

Vittorio1224 3 years, 8 months ago

@AlohaHawk ~ Where in Hawai'i are you? I was just there for some work I was doing with the Univ of Hawai'i. I love going to Maui & Waikiki... Amazing place.

Mahalo for your colourful posts, Jayhawk in TX :)

rock chalk!!

Alohahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Vittorio 1224: Live in downtown Honolulu, been in the islands 35+ years, originally from Topeka.

Love Hawaii and hate cold weather. Kaanapali and Kihei on Maui are relaxing getaways from Oahu's bustle, although they're getting busier. Waikiki is one busy mad house, but always interesting (especially the wahines in bikinis- Us old men can at least enjoy the scenery.) Miss watching the Jayhawks in the Phog. Never miss a televised Jayhawk game (Got lucky - no sunspot disruption here for the Missery game.)

Mahalo for the acknowledgement.

Redlandsjhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Attention Missouri: If we're going to have a rivalry you're going to have to start holding up your end of the deal...Hah!!!

jaydeamin 3 years, 8 months ago

LMAO, did I really just see NC fans storming the court after beating dook ha ha. How lame, both ranked teams.

KGphoto 3 years, 8 months ago

Wow, I hardly noticed. So true. That is embarrassing.

COJHawk 3 years, 8 months ago

great win. bummed to not see it live. thanks for link above to see last 3+ mins.

a nice tribute to mizzou here. maybe i'm late to the party on this link, but i literally laughed out loud watching it. enjoy...

JayHawkFanToo 3 years, 8 months ago

As I always say, every day is a good day to be a Jayhawk fan, but some days are better than others; today is one of those days. Some observations on today's CBS comedy of errors. A couple of times towards the end of the Kentucky-Tennessee game the game Missouri State-Indiana State started showing only to be switched back after a few seconds. An adult at CBS must have finally intervened as the MSU-ISU was shown in its entirety and then they switched to the Ohio State-Wisconsin game already started. Most embarrassing event on Saturday: North Carolina fans storming the court. HC Williams deserves better than to be embarrassed like that.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 8 months ago

@ JayHawkFanToo---what's up with the fans stormin' the court at Carolina? I saw that, too. I was thinking the fans at Carolina are similar to KU---you know, having some class, basketball knowledge, etc., etc. I guess I was a little perplexed by that.

JayHawkFanToo 3 years, 8 months ago

Talking about embarrassing, the CBS announcers at the OSU-Wisconsin game are about to have orgasms watching OSU play; they make Dicky V look like a piker...how unprofessional!!!

PVJayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

All,

Don't forget to thank out good friends* at K State, Nebraska, and Colorado for helping make the conference win possible.

*The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"...Marlon Brando from The Godfather.

yovoy 3 years, 8 months ago

As for the strength/weakness of this league, it makes me wonder how our 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th place teams would fare in other leagues. I don't think they'd do very well in the Big East (I'm not convinced they wouldn't though), but I think they're as good as the mid-level teams in most of the other leagues. Sure, our mid-level teams aren't glamourous, but they do enough things (like play D AND O) to beat some teams in leagues where defense doesn't seem as important.

So what do we think here: how would teams like Missouri/Neb/Colorado/Baylor do in other conferences? Iowa State isn't what their record says IMO.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

Ask and you will receive, Colorado & Neb next year in Pac & Big 10 conferences. And don't let the door hit on the way out. Just too damn bad it ain't misery-they're the wannabees that precipitated the almost complete collapse of the Bug 12 to begin with.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 8 months ago

Claycountyjayhawk----No kidding! I'll miss that, too.

Hank Cross 3 years, 8 months ago

Mizery wasn't to blame for what happened. It was all a UT power play.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

Misery opened the can of worms by contacting the Big Ten according to insiders. Even if that were not the case, it can allow us to despise them even more. If you missed my posts yesterday, my family lived the border war during the Civil War.

Alohahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Most of the top tier teams don't/won't play against each other, unless it is on a neutral court such as a pre-conference tourney. Next year four of the all time winningest schools do plan to play each other, on neutral courts, to start the season. If I remember correctly they are KU, Duke, Kentucky and Michigan State.

As for the middle teams in the conference, the following are records for all the Big 12 teams, as they finished the 2011 season, followed by their won/lost records against BCS schools and other schools which have been ranked this season. Those records are followed by their overall non-confernce records. Pick and choose those you consider "middle of the road".

KU - won 7, lost 0 / 15 - 0 overall non-conference record Texas - won 4, lost 3 / 12 - 3 Texas A&M - won 4, lost 0 / 13 - 1 K State - won 2, lost 4 / 12 - 3 Missouri - won 3, lost 1 / 14 - 1 Colorado - won 3, lost 3 / 11 - 4 Baylor - won 1, lost 3 / 11 - 3 Nebraska - won 1, lost 2 / 12 - 2 Ok. State - won 4, lost 2 / 12 - 2 Oklahoma - won 0, lost 5 / 8 - 6 Texas Tech - won 0, lost 5 / 8 - 7 Iowa State - won 2, lost 2 / 13 - 2

Overall, the Big 12 record against all teams is 141 and 35. Against the BCS and ranked teams it is 31 wins & 30 losses. Dropping the top 3 & bottom 3 conference teams, the record against BCS and ranked teams = 14 wins & 15 losses. Pretty much a wash.

Alohahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Oops, K-State overall non-con record should be 12 wins and 4 losses.

Vittorio1224 3 years, 8 months ago

@ AlohaHawk ~ Cool stuff dude. We are heading back to the Islands for some R&R with the fam and a little bit of biz mixed in. Let's make sure we link it up and you can tell me where to get some good sushi! Mahalo!

Alohahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Hawaii almost being a Japanese enclave, you'll find numerous Sushi bars that can't fail to please, both in an out of Waikiki. I'd bet half of them have Japanese employees working "under the table".

When do you plan to be here? After the NCAA finals? Staying in Waikiki?

Once a Jayhawk. Always a Jayhawk.

KULA 3 years, 8 months ago

Great accomplishment by the kids! Especially to come back and win the league when they looked like they were out of it 2 weeks ago. Congratulations to everyone involved!

However, I can't help but have a sneaking suspicion in the back of my mind that a conference that can be so dominated by one school can't really be that strong over all. A history check of Big 12 Final Four appearances in these last seven years confirms it.

Nothing against Kansas though--someone's gotta dominate and we do it! I can't help but think better league competition would serve us better in the tournament, though. C'mon all you Big 12 also-rans--get with it and do your part to make Kansas even greater.

bennybob 3 years, 8 months ago

Do you guys remember when dickie V picked the hawks to finish 5th in the big 12 preseason?

I really hate that guy.

HawkBBall 3 years, 8 months ago

24 turnovers, and still a victory over Mizery! The shooting percentage by Mizery, clearly shows me that the defense and rebounding by our Jayhawks got the win! Keep it up.

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