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Monday, June 27, 2011

Vandy transfer Andre Walker plans to visit KU basketball

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Kansas University’s six-man basketball recruiting Class of 2011 conceivably could swell to seven before the end of the summer.

Vanderbilt transfer Andre Walker, a 6-foot-7, 220-pound power forward from Flossmoor, Ill., is expected to visit KU in coming days, Rivals.com reported Sunday.

“We’ll be there later this week,” Andre’s dad, Andre Sr., said via text message to Rivals.com.

Andre Walker, who averaged 3.0 points, 3.0 rebounds and 2.6 assists while logging 17.7 minutes a game for Vandy his junior season, has visited Xavier and Northwestern in recent weeks. He’s also expected to visit Wichita State and Marquette.

Walker red-shirted the 2008-09 season after tearing his right anterior cruciate ligament and has had injury problems since. He has one year of eligibility remaining. He does not have to sit out a year after transferring because he already has earned his college degree.

The Jayhawks have one scholarship available in recruiting. Former walk-on Conner Teahan, a senior-to-be out of Kansas City (Mo.) Rockhurst High, was placed on scholarship last year.

Robinson grows: KU junior forward Thomas Robinson measured 6-foot-10 in shoes and weighed 240 pounds (without shoes) at last weekend’s Amar’e Stoudemire Skills Academy in Chicago. Robinson’s wingspan was measured at 7-foot-1.

Robinson, who was listed as 6-9, 237 last season, served as a camp counselor with fellow college big men Alex Brown, Wisconsin-Green Bay; Anthony Davis, Kentucky; Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota; James McAdoo, North Carolina; Aaric Murray, West Virginia; Alex Oriakhi, UConn; Mason Plumlee, Duke; Miles Plumlee, Duke; Jared Sullinger, Ohio State; and Yarou Mouphatou, Villanova.

Twenty-four high school big men attended, including three seniors who have KU on their list of schools: Mitch McGary, 6-11, Brewster Academy, Wolfeboro, N.H.; Willie Cauley, 6-11, Olathe Northwest and Landen Lucas, 6-9, Findlay Prep in Las Vegas.

Comments

100 3 years, 5 months ago

Tack onto our roster another 6'10" player with a 7'1" wingspan...

Keep drinkin that milk Thomas!

waywardJay 3 years, 5 months ago

As for the Recruit.... Bring him on. He's giving us one year... HOpefully that year can bring him a ring.

100 3 years, 5 months ago

Agree. Nice post move here, looks like he has great length for a 6'7" guy.

Kevin John 3 years, 5 months ago

T-Rob is a beast!! Can't wait to see him stop kensuck's anthony davis & terrence jones. Its on Baby!! @ MSG November 15th....I can't wait. Rock Chalk Jayhawk

100 3 years, 5 months ago

More info on Walker. Great character, smart kid with a great perimeter shot. As was noted he's already graduated from a top of the shelf academic program. Scored 10 points against UK and had 7 rebounds. Pretty much started entire career @ Vanderbilt except for during his time off from the ACL injury. Here's a writeup from his time in high school (of course Self & Manning would be getting a polished player from a solid Kevin Stallings run program four years later):

"Averaged 15 points, 8.2 rebounds and 2.6 assists as a senior 2006 ... Named one of the most complete players in Chicago by the Chicago Tribune, he helped lead the Vikings to the Illinois Class 2A sectionals in both his junior and senior seasons ... Named First Team All-State by the Illinois Basketball Coaches Association and the Chicago Sun Times ... Named a McDonald's All-American nominee .. Selected to compete in the Illinois-Missouri All-Star game ... Named First Team All-Area in 2006 and Second Team All-Area in 2005 ... In summer 2005, Walker was a member of a Chicago Ferrari squad that won the 17-and-under AAU National Championship ... Broke the Illinois state record for most points scored in a half with 26 points during a contest at the Proviso West Christmas Tournament. Previous record of 23 points was held by Isiah Thomas who played at St. Joseph High School in Westchester ... Coached by Roy Condotti and Jim McLaughlin."

Seems like a solid player that can help next year. Besides his character, smarts & his game, my favorite part is he was born in March of 1988.

mae 3 years, 5 months ago

great bench player. i know floss is a solid place to grow up, but not bball oriented of course. i must note, he's already graduated solidly and now is leaving a "polished program"? the draft and lockout aside, we don't need him.

100 3 years, 5 months ago

"Solid" Player.

"Polished" program. Kevin Stallings is a very good coach with a polished program. Learned his stuff right here at Kansas.

That doesn't mean Stallings outrecruits Calipari in the SEC. And it also means, having a scholastic admissions process that is respectable at Vandy, he can't take some of the Eric Bledsoes or Derrick Roses of the country.

A recap: Kevin Stallings runs a polished program. Andre Walker is a solid player who has become certainly more "polished" since high school (it won't be like throwing in a OAD who doesn't know the game speed or intensity of college basketball because he just spent the last 4 years of high school dunking on everyone with the special offensive plays called "OAD left" and "OAD right").

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

100, AWare redefines OAD. Sounds like a good fit. Why did he leave Vandy?

100 3 years, 5 months ago

JB,

Just wrote a mini dissertation in response to your question. Unfortunately (or fortunately for those who don't like rumors about John Calipari the Vampire bully of the SEC) I clicked post & it appears to not be showing up.

As the day goes on perhaps, like an SEC vampire with a large Swiss bank account, my post can wake up out of it's coffin & explain to you what really happened with Stallings, Judd, Lopez & Calipari at a SATanic coffee shop in NYC, November 2010, as they sat there drinking the tastiest 5 star John, i mean Joe in America this side of Turkey, that tastes rather like ROSE scented BLOODsoe while chatting & eyeballing the vacated golden CAMBY, I mean vacated candy, in the display case.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

"...like an SEC vampire with a large Swiss bank account..."

PHOF!!

onlylookin2score 3 years, 5 months ago

I've been trooping around these boards for awhile and I think your opinions are typically spot on. That being said, I cannot understand why I am the only person who would never pick this guy up. We already have a better athlete recently transfer here from San Diego...remember it was way way way back... last week. Aside from this guy seeming somewhat undersized...check that, deff. undersized to play the 4, WHY WOULD WE GIVE UP A SCHOLARSHIP THAT WE COULD USE NEXT YEAR ON A BETTER PROSPECT!!!!!!????!!!

I mean next year....there could be any number of late signees or better transfer prospects at the end of next season....but guess what, we'll have given it to some undersized pwr fwd.....

I'm sorry but he is no sasha kaun, or darnell jackson.... we surrounded those two with 4 and 5 star basketball players... this is how you win championships.... NOT BY TAKING ANYONE WHO SHOWS UP FOR A TOUR>>>>>>>:{

What do you think??

100 3 years, 5 months ago

In short:

  1. The kid only has one year left. He's available immediately.

  2. He's mature & intelligent. He hates Calipari. He hates what UK represents to hardworking honest programs like Vanderbilt, which were directly affected by Calipari's actions. He's smart. He scored 10 points & 7 rebounds against UK the last time they played. I love that he'd get another chance in MSG.

  3. Practice becomes much more intense with another 6'7" long kid. Even if he's not a 6'11" Danny Manning, he's still a disciplined kid with length.

  4. So with some of the OAD's a place like UK has to deal with, this is actually a kid who values the schemes & strategies of college basketball. To me, a 6'7" 23 year old like this, even if all he does is ride the bench, provides much more to us than an ego driven kid like Michael Gilchrist. We need team players if we've learned anything.

  5. Since the "recruiting service 4 & 5 stars" are pretty much all gone, we do have to make a special exception this year with our recruiting ways. A kid like this brings a maturity that is hard to come by & really could benefit us down the road in the tournament. It comes down to the kids being strong enough to fight through adversity. It's an emotional strength that often comes with experience. Even if Walker is only on the bench, his presence throughout the season will benefit our team so much more than a player like Gilchrist would in a one year sequence at Kansas.

Next year: The players must lead the way to a title. This all comes from leadership & knowledge. We can win the whole thing again next year.... We have the tools (again).

Next year, more & more... It's looking like we have the brainpower & a switch that turns on during pregame warmups & off at bedtime (I still believe part of the reason we blew it against VCU was we confused our NCAA winner switch with the auto escape switch -- staying up late with technology instead of sleeping & focusing on carbo loading).

Next year, we need emotional leaders who want a ring, & know all we have to do is flip our switch on 6 times to win the whole thing.

We control our destiny. But the players need a voice. I want the mature & wise Walker to breath the truth of the buttons of destiny into our Jayhawk program for a full season & through both post season tournaments.

It's our players that control the destiny of next season.... We already have a very nice starting five, taking shape right now, during pickup games at our practice facility.... In the lockeroom, the more intrinsic & experiential wisdom from the players, the smarter our kids, the more our kids "lead" fellow teammates into "not letting a 3 point shooting team even dribble with their right hand, much less have their right side of their body available for movement of any kind, the further we advance....

Sign. Andre. Walker.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm on my way to sign him. I have been able to sell some things in my time. I can sell AWare on Self and KU and The Legacy and a ring season.

Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware. Sign. Andre. Ware.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

ooops.

Make that...

Sign. Andre. Walker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sam Constance 3 years, 5 months ago

My take:

Less-touted recruits (like Young, and Walker and Anderson and Traylor) can turn into big-time contributors. For a recent example, see Derrick Williams, the second pick in this year's NBA Draft and formerly-unranked recruit.

However, the odds of any individual 3-star recruit maturing into a head-turner of a player are lower than they are with a 4- or 5-star recruit.

Therefore, if you need to fill out your roster with 3-star guys, rather than put all your eggs in one basket, it seems to make sense to bring in a handful of 3-star guys, let them go at it in preseason and practice, and see for yourself which one has the chops to develop "above" his designated star level.

I think that is what Self and his staff are doing. They couldn't get the cream of the crop, so they picked up the middle of the pack and will let those guys compete until one of them rises above the others. Hopefully, that's what will happen--one or two of these guys who have caused so much angst among many of the KU faithful will develop into a player that is better than the star-rating he was given out of high school.

The other school of thought is that Self plans to go with Robinson and Withey as his primary big men, and he figures the best way to steel their resolve is to beat them up as much as possible in practice. Throwing four (Anderson, Traylor, Young and Walker) bodies against the two of them in practice will, at the very least, make them WORK like they are playing fellow 4-star recruits in scrimmage.

100 3 years, 5 months ago

Onlylookin,

Valid critique.

What I value in this instance is a guy who is 23 with a degree, disciplined.

Adding another long 6'7" disciplined player can only help the team next year.

Call it inter squad competition.

I like to look at as "a chance for everyone to get better."

This kid was also a shining prospect before his ACL injury. He's had time to recover now & I think having this type of player, whether on the practice floor or game floor, can only benefit us, especially when it comes to facing a long young & inexperienced (though talented) Kentucky team in MSG.

If anyone has a distaste for what Calipari did to the SEC, it's Walker.

If anybody has personal gametime experience almost beating Calipari, it's Walker.

In short, the more intelligent, solid, long 6'7"-6'10" guys we can snag at this late date, the better. If they can box out, bonus. If they can shoot outside, double bonus. If they can pass, triple bonus. If they have a degree from Vanderbilt, that's a grand slam at this point in the summer.

The fact that we've even landed one at this point after the twins took off without warning is a credit to Self; this is gonna be another really solid Jayhawk team.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

100, AWare redefines OAD. Sounds like a good fit. Why did he leave Vandy?

Dirk Medema 3 years, 5 months ago

He graduated, and Vandy doesn't offer the grad program he is interested in.

The first is definite, and the second is an "I think"/usually.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

What's the grad program in?

Ringology?

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

If he signs, I hope they give him a uniform with "Dissertatin' Beast" where his name would normally go. :-)

And now in honor of dagger for reminding me of one of my all time favorites a few remarks below...

Who is the man, Who would risk his neck for brother man, Shaft, can u dig it!!!!!

And no one understands him But his mother... John Shaft!

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Wasn't TR just 6'7" when he signed? Man these guys grow. TR@ 6'10" is enough to make an alum up his donation for better tickets.

oldalum 3 years, 5 months ago

It said he measured 6'10" in his shoes, which is good for a couple inches. However, he may also have been wearing shoes when he measurer 6'7".

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

So: DMan might as well start his own DMan BMan camp. :-)

Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 5 months ago

"Who is D'Man that would risk his neck For his brother man? Manning, can you dig it?"

Ok, so I took some liberties with the lyrics! Just got inspired for a second.

"Manning is a bad....shut yo' mouth" ( Sorry, it happened again!)

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Not talkin' bout Man He's a baaaaad mother!

Ah for some Isaac Hayes in body chains and Richard Roundtree in some black on black this morning!

Lance Hobson 3 years, 5 months ago

I'll take a guy with a degree from Vandy and lots of potential for a good senior season. He's had the injury bug but may just be destined for something great when it all comes together for him...in Lawrence.

LeadTrader 3 years, 5 months ago

"....Robinson grows: KU junior forward Thomas Robinson measured 6-foot-10 in shoes and weighed 240 pounds (without shoes) at last weekend’s Amar’e Stoudemire Skills Academy in Chicago. Robinson’s wingspan was measured at 7-foot-1...." Robinson is a Beast. He Maintains Discipline and Work Ethic and KU Goes Final 4 and becomes a Top 5 Pick in Draft. Rock Chalk.

jayhawktalk 3 years, 5 months ago

If the guards can spread the defense next year, which I believe they can, Robinson is, at worst, a second team All American.

coloradojayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

OK. Too little time to check back through the archives, but to measure apples to apples, how tall was Robinson in stocking feet when he came to KU and how tall is he now without shoes. He's probably grown some, but I'd like to know that it was him, not just his putting on shoes for this latest measurement.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

If the Vandy guy transfers we may have to hammer the Tennessee Trolls!

Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

Perhaps the only reason not to sign Walker is to see if a gift would fall into our laps later in the summer .. leaving one scholarship open for such an occurence. Other than that, he would be added to our "stuff" to throw against the wall and see what sticks for 2011-12.

Steve Quatrocky 3 years, 5 months ago

How about "Sticks that Stuff" ? Except for TRob, we have Withey and a bunch of skinny freshmen on the front line. DD would have been the skinniest, I really dont mind missing out on him at all.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

How about "Thomas and the Piano Wires"?

waywardJay 3 years, 5 months ago

realistically... he's potentially giving these kids some redshirt options.... if your "stuff that Sticks" angle is correct..Red shirting would not factor into Stuff that sticks, but it might factor into ... "I no longer care about top 50 recruits because I can coach anyone with a heartbeat and a pulse how to play winning basketball...." angle

sokanhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

This would be a great addition. A senior PF with 4 yrs of NCAA experience to come off the bench along with Braeden and Jamari. It would really help our depth. Also, we would have the scholarship we use on him available next year. Welcome to Lawrence, Andre!

theend 3 years, 5 months ago

Finally.....an article that is not about the NBA!!!

I find the NBA so boring.

Anybody else??

Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

Agreed, except for about a month from mid-May to mid-June.

brooksmd 3 years, 5 months ago

What's the NBA? Oh, that's where somebody brings the ball up-court and takes a shot. If he makes it, somebody else takes it the other way and shoots. If either one misses, then whoever gets the ball shoots or takes it to the other end and shoots. And when there is no activity on the court your ears are blasted with garbage someone has decreed is music. No thanks. I'll watch the History channel.

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

"Just Another Reputedly Rumored Monday"

(Note: the above title may, or may not, be sung to the oldie tune "Just Another Manic Monday" by the Bangles, which is reputedly rumored to be accessible in some form or other at this link.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAZgLc...

~TRob is reputedly rumored to have been measured again today at Amare's camp and he is now reputedly rumored to be a footer. In fact, every big at the camp is reputedly rumored to have grown the last few days into a footer. In a striking coincidence, Amare is reputedly rumored to have changed his camp name to "Reputedly Rumored Footers by Amare."

~Similarly, Jordan Jueneman and Niko Roberts are both reputedly rumored to have grown to 6'9" and to have added 84" vertical leaps that enable them both to dust rafters in most parts of AFH sans ladders.

~Tyshawn is reputedly rumored to have worked on his speed with a quantum theorist on campus, so that TT can now reach the basket before his first step.

~Jeff Withey, Justin Wesley, Kevin Young, and Merv Anderson--aka the Slender Goal Tenders--are reputedly rumored to be wearing suspenders with their uniforms this season to keep their shorts up during XTReme Hopping.

~Coach Self is reputedly rumored to have had GPS chips imbedded into the hands of each player in his never ending quest to help his team get better at feeding the post and so cut TOs per game to the inverse of a Graham Number, the only number of TOs Self is reputedly rumored to be willing to tolerate.

~In this incredibly connected world we are reputedly rumored to live in, the GPS "post feeder chips" are part of a larger charitable donation of 6000 so-called "geezer chips" by an un-named firm. The geezer chips are reputedly rumored to have been imbedded into AFH seats of all alumni >75, to help them find there seats with their cell phones after the fifth trip to the restroom in each half.

~Also, in this incredibly connected world we are reputedly rumored to live in, the reputedly rumored addition of geezer chips in seats, will also necessitate some updating of toilets at AFH. The reputedly rumored new "smart toilets" are pictured and reviewed at the link below. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/16/numi-luxury-smart-toilet_n_850125.html

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

~To keep coaching fresh for KU players, Bill Self is reputedly rumored to have shaved whatever amount of his hair may actually remain after the Deandre Daniels recruiting experience (opinions vary widely on this issue), while Danny Manning is reputedly rumored to have let his last remaining hair grow out and be wrapped in a dense coil extending horizontally from his left temple. Joe Dooley is reputedly rumored to be breaking with his Columbo-rumpled look and reputedly rumored to be dressing up in Tom Ford's Autumn/Winter 2011 casual line, while Kurtis Townsend is reputedly rumored to invert his usual sartorial splendor by dressing down in a new line of retro double-breasted grunge wear sport coats called "Portland iFlannels" aka a "Cobain Tuxedo." No photos are yet available of Townsends new duds, but for a look at Coach Dooley's new raspberry look, click below. http://www.tomford.com/#/en/menswear/autumnwinter2011

~In an effort to improve the visual style of the home locker room at Allen Field house, OakvilleJHawk is reputedly rumored to have persuaded AD Sheahon Zenger to replace the current generic easy chairs at the players' lockers with famed designer Hans Wegner's eternally stylish "Ox Chairs". See example at the following link. http://modernica.net/ox-chair.html

~OakvilleJHawk is also reputedly rumored to have persuaded Zenger to replace the chairs in the visiting locker rooms with this recent Jasper Morrison design, an example of which may be seen at the link below. http://www.jaspermorrison.com/html/2207237.html

jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

~On the heels of our beloved Chancellor CBernie's firm, exacting handling of the rogue elements in Scalpinggate, Hollywood not surprisingly is reputedly rumored to be hot to make a TV show, about her called: "The Chancellorix." These ten women are reputedly rumored to be under consideration for the title role, so far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-42-...

Note: Helen Mirren and Oprah Winfrey are also reputedly rumored interested in playing CBernie. Further, university spokespersons speaking on infinitely deep background are reputedly rumored to have said that CBernie might be willing to play herself, if Denzel Washington, or George Clooney, were signed to play the role of her husband. Reputedly rumored to be developing.

~Finally, it is reputedly rumored that UArk's Mike Anderson was seen water skiing at Beaver Lake in Arkansas this past weekend in a t-shirt with the folllowing slogan emblazoned in bold letters across the back: "Fizzou Is for Suckers!"

(Note: All and I mean every single item in all three parts of this combination of posts is fiction. Nor is there even a smidgeon of malice either. And I have no business, strategic, political, philosophical, epistemological, moral, IT, or other interests in any of the sites linked above. They were linked entirely for the non-commercial purposes of the amusement of fellow thread rats at this community at this KUSports.com site and in no way represent the thoughts, opinions, or beliefs, of the alias jaybate, or the person behind the alias jaybate, or anyone else jaybate that might be misconstrued to be jaybate.)

:-)

Ann Oneill 3 years, 5 months ago

No one read your post, so it doesn't matter.

Jonathan Allison 3 years, 5 months ago

I can't believe that nobody's asked yet if he'll be eligible to play in 2011, or if he has to sit out a year for transfer rules.

There's always somebody who doesn't read to the end of the article before stupid comments begin flying out of their butt, right?

JayDocMD 3 years, 5 months ago

The irony is thick with that last comment. Congrats. You win the "First Responder to a Hypothetical Post" award.

kubball99 3 years, 5 months ago

He may not get your humor, so here it is:

"He does not have to sit out a year after transferring because he already has earned his college degree."

Jonathan Allison 3 years, 5 months ago

thanks,

the hypothetical poster would most likely at this point turn to defending himself, stating that he is often too busy to read the full article, or that he values the comments more than the actual subject matter.

kubball99 3 years, 5 months ago

Hey it happens. Just a little funny that's all

kubball99 3 years, 5 months ago

Really?

There are some pretty good players on teams like Tennessee, Villanova, Georgetown, Lousiville.. just to name a few. I don't know how previous tournament success equates to basketball ability.

kennethst 3 years, 5 months ago

.......Kansas has lost a few first round games..... Bucknell.....Bradley. Painful memories. But I doubt it means much. Vanderbilt has been a pretty good team.

TheGiftedOne 3 years, 5 months ago

Small correction: Its Mouphatou Yarou not the other way around like in the article. Just sayin.

Kenny Terry 3 years, 5 months ago

We got the scholly and its good to have depth in case of injury plus he has experience at D1 level

HawksWin 3 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the article. Get ready for Robinson in November! Espn got a taste of our TRob at Nike camp in Chicago, and drooling for more.

jayhawktalk 3 years, 5 months ago

TRob, both freak and force of nature; an unstoppable force with no opposing immovable object except an official's whistle to slow him.

He just needs the guards to keep defenses honest next year. TT, TRel & EJ, you owe it to TRob and to yourselves to step it up next season.

mikehawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Unless there is another sleeper out there, and there could be, this potential signing looks like a "no brainer." What's to lose.

Lance Hobson 3 years, 5 months ago

Jaybate you make the summer bearable.

RIP Lorenzo Charles. Finisher of the best finish in a title game ever. Even better than Mario's since that only tied it.

AZHawk72 3 years, 5 months ago

Yo, Andre...

...this is a good place to go to school and is second-to-none in basketball tradition. I realize you've probably read about all these fairly talented young "pups" we've picked up lately, but don't let the numbers dissuade you. Coach Manning is going to need some serious assistance with this group, and a veteran will get more than ample minutes both on the court and on the bench. This group may inspire you to coach, and that's not a bad way to go.

I knew we never should have put-up those billboards on I-70.

Jeeveshawk 3 years, 5 months ago

He could be another Rodrick Stewart...

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