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Friday, June 24, 2011

Keegan

Josh Selby missed his shot

Kansas guard Josh Selby cuts to the bucket past Miami (Ohio) University defenders Julian Mavunga (4) and Orlando Williams (15) during the second half, Sunday, Jan. 2, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Josh Selby cuts to the bucket past Miami (Ohio) University defenders Julian Mavunga (4) and Orlando Williams (15) during the second half, Sunday, Jan. 2, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Josh Selby’s post-season, pre-draft tour took much the same path as his short time in the Kansas University basketball program. It started with so much promise, veered off path and wound up in the ditch.

Selby drew raves for his initial individual workouts from NBA teams, shot up into the middle of the first round in many mock drafts, talked about leaving bad Kansas memories behind him. Now, if he’s honest with himself, he must wish he had Kansas in his future. Big if.

Shortly before Thursday night’s draft, a league source said Selby’s stock had slipped because his foot had not healed properly and there was concern he might have “weak knees.” When your only memorable college performance comes in your debut, it doesn’t take much to give general managers weak knees.

Second-round draft choices don’t get guaranteed contracts and first-round picks do. Selby could have played his way into the first round if his body and body language became healthier as a sophomore at Kansas. Instead, he quit on the whole idea that he needed college basketball to grow as a player and person.

No way Selby improves as much sitting the bench in Memphis or fighting for playing time in the Developmental League as he would battling in Bill Self’s intense practices, playing high-pressure games and trying to lead a young team. The needed personal polish he could have attained from attending classes and interacting with students might have helped him in life.

Yet, the silly rule set in place by the NBA allows colleges to be used by professional basketball for a year to test and market the future talent gives Selby the chance to leave college basketball without leaving or taking anything from it.

The one-and-done NBA rule and the vast majority of players who take advantage of it make a mockery of the first half of the student-athlete phrase so often uttered at NCAA Tournament press conferences.

In contrast, Marcus and Markieff Morris grew as men and basketball players during their three years in Kansas. If they never earn degrees, that doesn’t mean they didn’t get as much out of their experience as students who walk the hill do.

Selby might suit up for some Grizzlies games, though the D-League, home of plenty of bad body language, appears a more likely destination. The Grizzlies lone 2011 draft pick, Selby has a shot to beat out reserve guard Ish Smith. Who?

Precisely.

Selby’s slip supplied suspense to ESPN’s telecast, especially when, with the 45th pick, the New Orleans Hornets selected Josh ... Harrellson.

Markieff Morris getting taken ahead of Marcus qualified as a mild surprise, as did Selby’s drop all the way to 49th.

The most predictable draft development: ESPN’s Jeff Van Gundy was the star of the night.

Nothing about Van Gundy, from his common-sense to his candid humor, screams TV guy. He throws out great questions in down-home sports philosopher fashion, such as: “Why do players get in shape after the season?” And: “Why in the draft room do they clap after their pick? They knew who they were picking. Why do they clap?”

Will anybody ever clap for Selby the way so many did during the USC game in Allen Fieldhouse?

Comments

jayhawkinnebr 2 years, 9 months ago

Tom Keegan, you know how to write an article and you are right on with Josh S. Bill Self did a horrible job of coaching this last year as was shown by Sixpack Brady playing on the team. Sixpack should have not been on the team at all. Made Self look like a dud as a coach. Self did a very poor job of recruiting Josh and some others as was displayed during the season. Josh has only himself and Bill to blame for this one. Maybe a change in head coach would be necessary. Tom, kept up the good work that you are doing. and will be looking forward to your next article.

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TheGiftedOne 2 years, 9 months ago

Like Josh Selby/anyone gives a rat's ass about what some overweight scrub from Lawrence, Kansas thinks. Do us all a favor Tom and quit the paper...or atleast quit with the worstless opinion pieces cause no one cares anymore. You're getting too old and you know it...give a kid with some fresh ideas a chance because you're starting to try a little too hard. Good luck Josh...this is just classic Tom "BullS***" Keegan. \

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squawkhawk 2 years, 9 months ago

Selby is symbolic of today's youth...they want it all, right now.

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gorillahawker 2 years, 9 months ago

Not a huge Keegan fan, and I am a Selby hopeful and always will be, but this article really hits home. I just wish the kid would have stayed around. In his defense, he had a goal to play in the NBA and for whatever reason he never connected with KU. I ran into Selby and all the players at a bar (you can probably guess where) after the huge Gameday, K-State beat down at Allen last season and Selby was very much isolated from the rest of the boys... Even though he was only a freshman, the disconnect was very obvious and kind of sad.

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Jack Wilson 2 years, 10 months ago

I just feel sorry for Selby. It is unfortunate that a kid has adults around him that are so incompetent, greedy, selfish, and/or short-sighted to have permitted this kid to enter the draft after such a poor season. I'm sure that "friend" that provided him the improper benefits was providing him some of the wonderful advice .. out of the goodness of his heart. And mama Selby is just as culpable.

The whole world .. or at least the world that means something (this message board) .. would have steered Selby back to KU. It was obviously the right call. No doubt. As a note, I don't think I saw one post on this message board questioning the Morrises decision (meaning we .. all of us .. saw that as a sensible decision despite our selfish desires to have both back).

Again, this is just sad. But let's all do this .. let's root for the guy. Let's not be sucked in by the temptation to say "ah, told you so" and enjoy his failure because he was not to us, what we wanted him to be. Let's hope he succeeds. Let's provide kind words. None of us will enjoy life more, if Selby fails.

Hope he can get off the mat, dust himself off, and have an excellent career in the NBA, Europe, or wherever.

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KUfanInFlorida 2 years, 10 months ago

Selby did miss his shot. I mean, why not stay one more year and elevate your game? He would be a top 20 talent if he stayed one more year.

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jhawkr 2 years, 10 months ago

Josh is to blame for his own demise. I have no problem with 1 and dones under the current system, IF they have a good year and then leave. Josh didn't ..........

Josh really didn't prove anything to the NBA scouts last year other then he could run the floor. Otherwise his shot wasn't close to reliable, his defense was quite suspect and he couldn't handle the ball (see benching in home game against Neb.). How can they speculate him at the point in the NBA when he never ever was going to be KU's point guard ? He simply turned the ball over way too much !

Supposedly Josh was having some great workouts, OR was it the KUSports.com staff that was pumping him up to us the fans ? I gotta believe that the NBA scouts saw a very raw prospect with hope that the development league could get him on their NBA roster inside of 3 years .............. Thus his draft spot late in the 2nd round was all he could really hope for.

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jgkojak 2 years, 10 months ago

Too bad someone couldn't have shown Selby a what-if - what-if he had worked as hard as he could and played such that KU beat VCU - Selby with a Nat. Championship ring probably goes Top 20.

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rob4lb 2 years, 10 months ago

Josh Selby's fate this year if there even is a season. January game: D-league home game in Bismark North Dakota playing for the Dakota Wizards. About 2000 in attendance. Everyone in the building can hear the dribbling of the ball. Contrast that to a home game in Allen Fieldhouse- Big Monday, national TV, ESPN. In the back of his mind, does he realize he made the wrong decision. At the end of the day, he did not want to go to college and KU should have let him go elsewhere.

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Mike Barnhart 2 years, 10 months ago

Well, the enigmatic Josh Selby era is over. I'm glad he's gone! Sticking around KU for another year or two would have sucked for both Selby and the 'Hawks. His king-sized ego, fragile psyche, laziness and slow feet were clearly red flags for the entire NBA braintrust.

He's far from the first phenom to bust-out of college.

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WisconsinJayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Keegan says: "Yet, the silly rule set in place by the NBA allows colleges to be used by professional basketball for a year to test and market the future talent gives Selby the chance to leave college basketball without leaving or taking anything from it."

Geez, I hate Keegan... you don't think the schools also "use" the players, including the one-and-done-ers? No pay for the player but big revenues and publicity for the school? Poor college basketball powerhouses, "used" by extrmely talented players... boo f*cking hoo.

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ku_foaf 2 years, 10 months ago

I wish Josh success. If he really still has foot problems, it's a shame for him that he didn't stay at KU, where he could have been treated at no real cost and be allowed to heal.

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BABBOY 2 years, 10 months ago

Some seriously obsessed people here.

Reality:

It was a meaningless late round pick (like a 7th round pick in football) and they are gambling the internet geeks that hyped Selby all up in the first place are right.

If he pans out, then great, if not, it was just a late round pick and no expected any thing anyway......

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irvan moore 2 years, 10 months ago

i think we are all forgetting the upside for Josh, he still has potential.

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Andrew Dunlap 2 years, 10 months ago

everything worked out for Selby and KU. We should be glad that he left the program early. He was not suited to be a student athlete and we wouldn't have benefited from another year of him being in the program. The NBA vetting process worked and now Selby needs to get his act together. Isn't that a good education?

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jaybate 2 years, 10 months ago

So: why didn't the pros see what Self saw? Why did they view him as such a big risk?

I can't answer that.

And I haven't read any credible explanations either.

Now, a lot of thread rats are also saying Josh was selfish, Josh was all about Josh.

But stuck in my mind are three things that refute that judgement of Josh.

  1. He happily played out of position for Self.

  2. He eventually played on an injury that he could easily have stopped after. He played on an injury that in the past had shelved Withey for a season, and that Cole Aldrich had to sit awhile with, too, before returning to never play consistently at his prior levels either.

  3. There is a Nick-pic that I paint-o-graphed of Josh embracing Brady Morningstar on, if I recall correctly, senior night (or day). It was an incredible picture of comaraderie and love among two teammates who had been forced by chance to have to compete with each other head to head for PT. I will always remember this picture, because I think it was one of the great sports photos I have ever seen, especially if one understands the context.

So: for these three reasons, I don't believe Josh was all about Josh, while he was at KU.

All of which leaves me wondering how Kyrie Irving, and Brandon Knight, guys the same size as Josh, but without as much physical aggressiveness as he possesses, get all the love and trust of NBA GMs, when NBA GMs are known for drafting on ceiling, and not on performance.

We read it again and again. The NBA drafts on ceiling. The NBA drafts based on potential. The NBA doesn't draft based on what you have done. If you've got the physical build and the talent to be good in the NBA, that's what really gets them juiced.

Well, I still say Josh Selby has a ton of talent. I still say that healthy I would rather have him than either Kyrie Irving, or Brandon Knight.

All the way until Josh played at KU, most every ranking put Josh at the top of the list.

Something is going on with Josh Selby and it does not seem to be explained by a lack of ability, or too much selfishness and ego.

I can't explain what is going on, but something is going on that we are not yet privy to.

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jaybate 2 years, 10 months ago

If he had to invest in developing a D1 PG, he would invest in Tyshawn and Elijah, who were willing to come back.

And because Josh was such a super athlete, and so aggressive, he could play the 3, and still do all the things he was capable of doing, which would get him and Tyshawn at the floor at the same time, plus not leave KU the following season with out a proven PG.

But then Josh's play dipped a little. His TOs edge up and his scoring edged down. It happened around the time of the TRob family tragedy. And overshadowed in the TRob tragedy was Josh's loss of a close child hood buddy to a violent death. It was mentioned and then more or less lost sight of in the greater drama of TRob's loss, and the team rallying around TRob--the whole FOE thing.

And then there was the injury. It has never been clear to me exactly when it happened. Was it in practice, or in a game? What was the date? Even the approximate date?

And Josh's problems growing as Brady entered the Father and Mother of All Slumps.

And for awhile, Josh's injury, and Brady's slump, opened the door for Travis and Mario Little to see some more minutes.

But then Travis wrecked his ankle.

And then Brady started coming out of the slump and Josh seemed to drag his feet about coming back from stress reaction, so Little saw more minutes.

But here is the thing: even with a boot on his foot, even with the TOs, even with Brady coming out of his slump, even with Mario Little coming on a little, Bill Self thought so much of Josh Selby's abilities that he played him about 15-20 minutes per game even with a flipping boot on his foot.

I am left with only one probable and reasonable inference: Bill Self thought Josh Selby was one heckuva basketball player.

And even after the season was over and Josh split, Self said, "Josh is a pro type guard."

Self did not say, "I don't want that kid around any more." He did not say Josh had lost a lot because of injury. He did not say Josh is all about Josh. He just said, "Josh just needs a lot of reps." And by that he meant to be a polished pro type player.

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jaybate 2 years, 10 months ago

"Eating Crow about When Josh Would Be Drafted, but Not Yet Conceding Josh Was an Overhyped Flop:"

I would like to eat some crow about Josh Selby.

Well, I wouldn't like to, but crow prepared and eaten correctly has nutritional value that builds character. :-)

I really thought he would go higher and I really thought the Knicks would trade down to pick up Josh and another player, as part of that trade, since the Knicks only had one pick, since Melo is his mentor, and since Melo's biz manager (Josh's reputed sugar daddy) might have packaged the two players together for a small sports marketing bonanza.

But I was wrrrrr...wrrrrrr...okay, let me try that again....I...was...wrrrr...wrrr....I was wrong! :-)

They picked him low in the second round.

Since the GMs have seen him play in work outs and turned up their collective noses at him, something has to be wrong with him.

The conventional thread rat wisdom here seems to be Josh is just no good, never was, came overhyped and got exposed.

The trouble with the conventional wisdom is that Bill Self, a pretty good judge of basketball talent, was very confident that Josh would be one of the very good players in the league last season, even as late as early last season.

Bill Self was so bullish on Josh that he sat Brady Morningstar without hesitation and started Josh, even though Josh had been injured in the off season, been out on NCAA suspension for the first 8 games and even though Morningstar was an experienced, proven defender with a 40% trey.

Bill Self did not hesitate. He started Josh and Josh promptly played brilliantly in his first start.

The only think Self did not do was start Josh at PG, where most expected he would play and start.

The move to the 3 was understandable in part because Josh was up front about saying he was an OAD no matter what.

Self made a pragmatic decision about what would be best for the KU program.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 10 months ago

Worst case:

Dude doesn't make the league and has to go to Spain or Greece and play a game he loves for a couple hundred grand a year. I'd take it!

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Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 10 months ago

difference between the morris gents and josh selby? work ethic. Those kids did so much work during the off-season, I was proud. Selby seemed content to rely on his talent and coast along, which I'm sure worked for him in high-school ball...

a good article, keegan.

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RockChalk26 2 years, 10 months ago

Glad to see the Big 12 was well represented in the draft this year. There has been a lot of talk lately about how tough it is in the Big East conference, but they only had 3 players drafted. I hope the media starts giving some credit to the Big 12.

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keith horinek 2 years, 10 months ago

If you crunch the numbers on selby, he made a huge mistake. He MIGHT make $700K for his two year contract if he negotiates well. (mario chalmers made $847K per year after going in the second round). two years at $700 is $1.4M total for the two year contract he has to sign. If he had waited one more year and developed more talents at KU and gone in the first round, he might have garnered $1.2M per year or more for the two year contract, or $2.4M total. going this year cost him approx. $1M over the next two years. very poor decision on his part.

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Dave Cook 2 years, 10 months ago

I think those who are defending Josh Selby going to the NBA now need to realize, he had WAY more potential to be a great super start.. We all saw this and it didn't take a rocket scientist to see that 1 more year at KU under Bill Self would have made his life much easier and more fruitful when got to the NBA.. so yes, I laugh myself because he listen to those idiots around him and thought he was ready..well,.. let me be the first of many to say #FAIL buddy... This is not to say he'll never make it...but he alone made the decision to make his journey much much harder..

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LeBo 2 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for coming to KU, thanks for leaving KU. (JOSH) You said that you weren't happy here.

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WilburNether 2 years, 10 months ago

Mr. Keegan, thank you for the reality check. A sense of reality is sorely missing from the rantings of the idiot fanbois here.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 10 months ago

There is this notion in the college realm (of journo's and fans) that players can develop more by staying in college because there is a focus on games and PT. Development doesn't happen in games. It is just revealed in games.

Develop as a player happens in practice, and the NCAA limits the amount of time a player can practice with coaches. The NBA has no limit on the amount of time a player can spend with coaches. These are not my observations, but rather the observations of NBA GM's.

The NBA also makes no other requirements of a players time, like attending class. That means that much more time to work on your game without the coaches as well. To his credit, Selby has shown the willingness to take care of his personal responsibilities (class) well ahead of time, and make the extra effort to develop his game (LV in April/May). This along with his play in between the suspension and injury tell me he has a great chance of playing well in the NBA, and I'm still cheering for him.

It also helps that he has continued to speak reasonably about his time at KU, inspite of it not working out nearly as well as anyone had hoped. It's unfortunate that others can only focus on the negative.

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KU_alum_2001 2 years, 10 months ago

In response to some of the various posts above, I think it's true that Selby (the "#1-rated high school player" a year ago) being drafted where he did does hurt KU. I said it two days ago. It doesn't really matter what all the circumstances are. For future recruits, these things get summarized down into charts and tables... and when some 2013 high school grad sees that the #1-ranked high school player went to KU and was drafted 49th, it won't look good, especially when coaches from other schools start chattering in his ear (here's a finger to you, Calipari).

Second, in response to all the Selby haters out there, I think there's one really interesting thing in this article. According to sources (whomever that may be), Selby still hasn't healed. I think this is very important to pay attention to. This was originally classified as a 6-week stress fracture, yet here he is in late-June supposedly still suffering from the injury. I have two things to say about this.

1) it means that Josh Selby, regardless of quality of play, was out there, suited up, ready and willing to play, at the end of the season when he clearly should have been resting. Yes, athletes get injured and have to work through that but if this was truly just a stress fracture and he's still suffering from it nearly three months after the tourney, that's not a good sign. So for all of you who rip Selby for his performance and not living up to the hype, think about this injury (not to mention his initial 9-game suspension). This guy wasn't faking it. He's obviously struggled with his foot even in the most critical juncture of his career (trying out for teams).

2) if his foot truly hasn't healed, then there's no way to know for sure that he ever would have been the same or a huge contribution to the team had he returned for his sophomore year. For all we know, he might have been stuck recovering for the next 6 months, only to arrive late again, use up a scholarship (which didn't seem so abundant at the time), and possibly throw off team chemistry.

Selby clearly could have been more, and I have no doubt that he has the talent to be more but he got dealt a really bad hand and because he didn't deliver on what we expected, we turned on him. Not fair at all.

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FreddyinLA 2 years, 10 months ago

Keegs, please write me an article explaining how DeShawn Stevenson committed career suicide by not playing for Ole Roy back in the day. Talent, hard work, and relentless determination are more important in sticking in the Association, not where you were drafted.

As I’ve stated in the past, Selby needs reps at PG, something Self has handed over to TT for some reason I will never understand.

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justanotherfan 2 years, 10 months ago

I am confused as to how Josh Selby missed his shot. He is a Memphis Grizzly right now, closer to the NBA than he has ever been. The concerns that NBA GMs have about him are health concerns, not skill concerns. That's telling in itself.

If his body doesn't hold up, regardless of whether he had stayed at KU or not, he won't make it in the NBA. If his body does hold up, he should have a fairly long, successful career. That's not a mistake. Josh Selby now has until September to get his body right. He can work with Memphis team doctors, chiropractors, etc. to make sure that his body is sound.

Josh Selby made it. If Keegan can't see that, it's only because he doesn't want to.

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lahawkfan 2 years, 10 months ago

I think you guys are missing one HUGE aspect. Forget production, athleticism, hype, etc. Selby has all of that, but what he lacks is mental toughness. In the league you need mental toughness or you will crack under the pressure. Selby wont be able to "out athlete" players in the league and we saw this year what adversity will do to the young man. When things didn't go the kids way he pouted and quit on the team. The kid will get one maybe two years to show a change in his maturity and mental toughness. If he can't change the kid will be playing in Europe or out of basketball altogether.

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Tony Bandle 2 years, 10 months ago

Just talking numbers, starting with 2004, Kansas has had 12 players drafted by the NBA [8 firsts and 4 seconds].

That can't hurt from a recruiting standpoint, especially when you're talking: 4 power forwards 3 wings 2 shooting guards 1 point guard 2 centers

All positions are covered.

Also, considering the number of eligible college players in America plus the rest of the players around the world, maybe being in the Top Fifty is not so horrible.

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justinryman 2 years, 10 months ago

I wish I could get paid to be hating on the kids who actually give me a job. Way to go LJW for printing Keegans worthless article knocking down a KU player an a site that is addressed "www.kusports.com"

The writer, paper and web site should all be embarrassed and they should all have to apologize to Josh Selby for their low blow comments and writings about him.

Once a Jayhawk always a Jayhawk. Jayhawk for life!

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kesmithstl1 2 years, 10 months ago

Keegan, thanks for pointing out that Josh Harrelson was picked before Selby!! Harrelson is destined to be................. selling cars in Lexington in 2 years.

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William Blake 2 years, 10 months ago

Let's face it... Selby was in such a rush to make it to the NBA he forgot to qualify himself.

All the anxiety he had at Kansas, wasn't about Kansas... it was about the NBA. His basketball visions while he was in Lawrence, showed him in an NBA uniform, not a Jayhawk uniform.

There are a couple of lessons to be learned here. First, take life one step at a time, and second, smell the roses during the journey. Do so and the path you take will prepare you for what is next. No cutting in line!

NBA - No Boys Allowed

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emaw 2 years, 10 months ago

Wally Judge was a cancer.....look at what happened as soon as he left. The cats finally started playing and winning. Nobody on the team trusted him and he was a jealous little rat. If you knew anything about the situation you would understand why we were glad he left town. I'm not sure who you talked to that was looking for a new coach.....and I like to remember the a@@ whooping we put on you in our place....that was a fun game.

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Robert Brock 2 years, 10 months ago

Well, there is always overseas ball. Maybe he will play in Greece or Libya or Yemen or Qatar.

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Dyrk Dugan 2 years, 10 months ago

i predicted long ago he wouldn't be a 1st round pick.....he has a long way to go make it in the league.

one of these days, these types of connected kids will say no to the yes men around them, and do what's in their own best interest. if he had "body" issues, then man up, play an intense 35 game college schedule, avg. 16 and 7, and show the world what you can do.

to rely on the "upside" all of your life is just not right...at some point, you have to produce. he could have had a great soph. campaign at Kansas, and really set himself up nicely...and now, all for naught. Prove me wrong Josh, ...but right now, i just don't see it.

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jaybate 2 years, 10 months ago

Dear Tom et al,

Because Selby got picked at all, he made a sound decision. Maybe he did not optimize his entry level salary, but he still made a sound decision. He took a calculated risk and, while not hitting a jack pot, did darned well for himself. Doing this is the difference between dreamers and doers.

Selby is about to be $400k to $750k/year richer in a few weeks; that's probably quite a bit more than you make as sports editor.

Further, Josh does not have to risk injury playing just for room, board, books and tuition anymore, which translates to essentially no take home pay and a chance to never make a dime.

Despite having to take a calculated risk of not being drafted as high as he would have been next season, Selby made the conservative move. His risk of making no money from the game due to injury just went to zero. His bank account just got real. Bank officers and tellers will now smile and say, "Hello, Mr. Selby," instead of ignoring him.

Money talks.

Josh settled for less now, rather than more later; that is not stupidity; that is a sound business decision for any young person from a poor back ground to make. It is called not being greedy.

Josh was not greedy. He went for the sure money. He knew Bill Self and his coaching staff all were going for the sure money. He knew he had a good chance for some. He took it. Bully for him.

Josh has established a financial foundation for himself. Now he can focus on getting better and showing his employer, and other potential employers, just how flippin' good he is on the wood. Next, he converts that performance into big dollars 1-3 years from now, while making good money in the interim.

In every business, Tom, the key is getting your foot in the door. It is better to start higher, but the key is to get in the door. Andrew Carnegie, a poor Scottish kid, started as a mere messenger, so he could access the information that was driving decisions in the industries he knew of. He got his foot in the door at an information pinch point and did okay starting lower, while he collected the information that would leverage him up later.

The NBA is a business. Once you are in, if you can do the job adequately and work hard, and be someone people like to work with, your career is then a sustainable work in progress.

Josh Selby is in the NBA. He is making money. He is on his way.

That is not failure, Tom, that is the start of success in business.

Never blame a guy for living in the real world and taking a bird in the hand.

The two birds in the bush are a calculated risk, also--maybes--a what-ifs.

Josh went for the sure thing, just like you did once, Tom.

Remember?

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emaw 2 years, 10 months ago

It is sad to see how the KU nation throws one of their own under the bus. Just because he didn't give you what you thought he owed to you..... doesn't mean he wasn't giving everything he had to give during his time on campus.

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James Naismith 2 years, 10 months ago

Josh, meet your new teammates:

Dakota Wizards Roster

2010-2011 Roster num player pos ht wt from 34 Mike Anderson F 6-7 200 Va Commonwealth
22 Christopher Ayer C 6-10 230 Loyola Marymount
23 Maurice Baker G 6-1 195 Oklahoma State
15 Darren Cooper G 6-3 195 Portland
6 Javaris Crittenton G 6-5 200 Georgia Tech
24 Anthony Goods G 6-3 200 Stanford
44 Chris Holm F, C 7-0 250 Vermont
14 Brandon Johnson G 6-0 205 San Diego
7 Renaldo Major F 6-6 210 Fresno State
Coaches HEAD COACH Rory White
ASSISTANT COACH(ES) Bernard Smith
ATHLETIC TRAINER Jamal James

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yates33333 2 years, 10 months ago

I think Selby should be grateful that he was drafted. Hard to know what Memphis intends to do with him.

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theroadking99 2 years, 10 months ago

Selby will never make it in the NBA.

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REHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

The one and done rule ended up costing Josh Selby millions of dollars, at least until or if he improves his game these next 2 or 3 seasons. If he could have gone straight to the NBA while his body and young fame bristled with promise, he probably would have been a first round selection, maybe even a lottery pick.

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lhohman3 2 years, 10 months ago

Great points by oxcaljayhawk. After reading his comments I instantly thought of the suddenly strange parallels between basketball & film acting; and that they might be the two best examples on how attending college might actually damage someone's full professional potential.

"College: Where real men wear merino wool turtlenecks."

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bdsnook 2 years, 10 months ago

Only people who are ignorant with the Selby story would think poorly upon KU from a perspective student-"athlete" point of view. Selby came in, highly touted, sat on his arse for a semester because of the NCAA, finally entered the KU games with hype and delivered, got injured and never regained his sense of belonging, left because that's what the world told him to do, and now's he's a not-fully-healed guard staring right at the D-League. Rock Chalk.

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Hank Cross 2 years, 10 months ago

Another utter garbage piece by Keegan, filled with so much speculation and false assumptions it's not even funny.

" Instead, he quit on the whole idea that he needed college basketball to grow as a player and person."

Keegan as mind-reader. As long as he's playing pop psychologist, how about accounting for the fact that Selby's career was frustrated by the NCAA suspension and the injury? Or the fact that he wasn't playing his natural position by handling the ball in transition, but instead was turned into a jumpshooter?

"No way Selby improves as much sitting the bench in Memphis or fighting for playing time in the Developmental League as he would battling in Bill Self’s intense practices, playing high-pressure games and trying to lead a young team. "

Uh, not really. If we are honest, we have to admit that college ball is not necessarily relevant to the demands of the NBA. Kobe, KG and LeBron didn't need college (LBJ's problems have nothing to do with not going to college). Kyrie played 11 games. Think Judd Heathcote taught Magic anything? Guy Lewis was one of the biggest just-roll-out-the-balls coach in college and that didn't stop Hakeem and Clyde from becoming great players. NBA teams tonight didn't have problems drafting Euros who have never set foot on a college campus. The bottom line is that a player either has NBA ability, or he doesn't. And playing against players who have that type of ability or potential ability whether in practice or in the D-league is better preparation for the NBA than stomping on UMKC or Iowa State.

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CrodieBroyle 2 years, 10 months ago

Xavier and Selby on the same team... kinda funny

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 10 months ago

Average d-league salary $30k. Josh, you should of listened!

Yeah, I copied and pasted. What are you going to do about it?

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phogphan2000 2 years, 10 months ago

Sadly as was pointed out to me by a UK fan, Selby is a black eye on recruiting for KU, a top ranked player that slipped to #49 in the draft Self did what he could to allow Selby to develop on the court and show his talent, but unfortunately for all involved it didn't work out It's not KU's fault, it's not Selby's fault, just the way the cookie crumbled I think he's got a shot at playing meaningful minutes on an up and coming Memphis team if he can get healthy Good luck Josh, work hard and let the details work themselves out I know I'll remember a great performance against USC that kept an amazing home winning streak alive and a heck of a first half in Boulder (though I was at the game and running a 105 degree fever, so I could be off base on that)

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