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Monday, January 17, 2011

KU moves up to No. 2 in both polls

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The Kansas men's basketball team moved up a spot to No. 2 in both the Associated Press and ESPN/USA Today coaches polls released Monday.

The Jayhawks picked up six out of 65 first-place votes in the AP poll and two of 31 first-place votes in the coaches poll.

KU was joined in the rankings by fellow Big 12 teams Texas (10th AP/11th coaches), Texas A&M; (11th/10th), Missouri (13th/14th) and Kansas State (NR/24th).

See how Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan voted in the Associated Press poll.

The full rankings are below.

Associated Press poll

  1. Ohio State Buckeyes (49) 18-0 1606 2
  2. Kansas Jayhawks (6) 17-0 1526 3
  3. Syracuse Orange (8) 18-0 1523 4
  4. Duke Blue Devils (1) 16-1 1393 1
  5. Pittsburgh Panthers (1) 17-1 1382 5
  6. San Diego State Aztecs 19-0 1294 6
  7. Villanova Wildcats 16-1 1265 7
  8. Connecticut Huskies 14-2 1148 10
  9. BYU Cougars 17-1 1057 11
  10. Texas Longhorns 14-3 1015 12
  11. Texas A&M; Aggies 16-1 996 14
  12. Kentucky Wildcats 14-3 975 13
  13. Missouri Tigers 15-3 758 15
  14. Purdue Boilermakers 15-3 672 8
  15. Minnesota Golden Gophers 14-4 513 NR
  16. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 14-4 495 9
  17. Michigan State Spartans 12-5 467 NR
  18. Wisconsin Badgers 13-4 448 20
  19. Louisville Cardinals 14-3 438 18
  20. Washington Huskies 13-4 409 17
  21. West Virginia Mountaineers 12-4 266 NR
  22. St Mary's Gaels 16-2 195 NR
  23. Georgetown Hoyas 13-5 146 22
  24. Illinois Fighting Illini 13-5 146 16
  25. Cincinnati Bearcats 16-2 125 25

Others receiving votes: Temple 99, Georgia 89, Kansas State 86, Gonzaga 84, Colorado 78, UNLV 76, Arizona 70, Florida State 64, Vanderbilt 46, Florida 42, St. John's 27, Missouri State 25, Utah State 22, Baylor 18, UCF 10, Southern Miss 8, Marquette 7, Wichita State 6, James Madison 4, Butler 2, North Carolina 2, Coastal Carolina 1, Penn State 1.

ESPN/USA Today coaches poll

  1. Ohio State Buckeyes (28) 18-0 772 2
  2. Kansas Jayhawks (2) 17-0 738 3
  3. Syracuse Orange (1) 18-0 715 4
  4. Pittsburgh Panthers 17-1 653 5
  5. Duke Blue Devils 16-1 641 1
  6. San Diego State Aztecs 19-0 633 6
  7. Villanova Wildcats 16-1 594 7
  8. Connecticut Huskies 14-2 531 9
  9. BYU Cougars 17-1 529 10
  10. Texas A&M; Aggies 16-1 491 13
  11. Texas Longhorns 14-3 454 14
  12. Kentucky Wildcats 14-3 439 15
  13. Purdue Boilermakers 15-3 371 8
  14. Missouri Tigers 15-3 337 12
  15. Louisville Cardinals 14-3 276 17
  16. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 14-4 266 11
  17. Wisconsin Badgers 13-4 207 21
  18. Michigan State Spartans 12-5 187 24
  19. Minnesota Golden Gophers 14-4 183 25
  20. Washington Huskies 13-4 182 18
  21. St. Mary's Gaels 16-2 153 NR
  22. Illinois Fighting Illini 13-5 120 16
  23. Georgetown Hoyas 13-5 119 19
  24. Kansas State Wildcats 13-5 66 20
  25. Arizona Wildcats 15-3 60 NR

Others receiving votes: West Virginia 54, Georgia 52, Temple 44, Cincinnati 42, Gonzaga 39, Utah State 24, Colorado 23, UCF 18, Baylor 8, Florida 8, Missouri State 8, UNLV 8, Vanderbilt 8, Wichita State 8, Florida State 4, Butler 3, Southern Miss 3, James Madison 2, Belmont 1, Memphis 1.

Comments

100 9 years, 1 month ago

What matters is the ranking at the end of the year...

To get there it really is a simple formula...

Each & every game, own the stat sheet Jayhawks.... Make each possession count....

Take pride in crisp passes....

Rebounding....

Tough hard nosed D.....

All for one & one for all!!!!!!!!!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

prusso25 9 years, 1 month ago

Hmmm not sure i want the target of being 1 in the country... We have the potential to be that but i don't think we deserve it the way we have been playing lately. We deserve top 5 but we could easily have had a couple losses on this years record.

Who cares about rankings anyway? As long as you take your conference and stay hot in march rankings mean nothing.

KU_FanSince75 9 years, 1 month ago

Random thoughts here------

1) Duke fell hard from #1, in my opinion. 2) If the NCAA Tourney pairings came out today, there would be some really tough #2 seeds in the Big Dance. It seems more glaring this year because of the parity in the Nation. 3) After today's game, K-State probably will not be ranked---the Drill Sargent/Geigo commercial comes to mind right away.

Go Jayhawks---hope this #2 ranking isn't a curse for tonight!

pizzaboy225 9 years, 1 month ago

KState ranked ahead of Colorado in both polls, what a bunch of bullsh&*

TenaciousD 9 years, 1 month ago

Agreed. Guess Colorado will just have to thump them in Boulder too.

Ron Franklin 9 years, 1 month ago

Keegan.....why do you make two articles out of this?

Why don't you just have the new poll & how you voted in the same article?

It seems like your duplicating work and not being as productive for kusports.com as you should be.

You're Fired!!!!

(j/k....kind of)

LAJayhawk 9 years, 1 month ago

For anyone who may have an interest:

Cormac Gordon of the Staten Island Advance in New York voted us 6th behind three 1-loss teams -- Duke (3), Pittsburgh (4), and Villanova (5th) respectively.... hmm, all East Coast schools. Interesting.

Dick Weiss of the NY Daily News also voted us 5th behind Duke and Pitt. He was one of the 8 votes for Syracuse at #1, btw (Keegan, of course, being another). Not much love from New York.

On the other hand -- as pnl14 pointed out on the other post -- Jerry Tipton of the Lexington Herold in KY was one of our 6 first place votes. (Alabama, 2 of the 3 NC reporters, Tennessee, and Seth Davis are the other 5).

Polls don't mean much, but it's interesting to see how AP voters look at KU.

Ian Brown 9 years, 1 month ago

When you say 2 of the 3 NC reporters, I assume you are speaking of North Carolina. If so, such voting doesn't surprise me. A few weeks ago when I was perusing one of the Duke message boards, most of their fans seemed extremely knowledgeable and had many great observations. What led me to the forum was someone on kusports being ticked off about some of their opinions of Bill Self as a coach. However, I came away quite impressed. The ones who were critical of Self made coherent and pretty convincing arguments (they weren't simply bashing him), and there were others who gave him and the Jayhawks a lot of praise. They reminded me of most of the great bloggers on this site whom, although they may dislike Duke, still acknowledge the fact that it is a great program and Coach K is a tremendous coach. If you think otherwise, you're being irrational and a hater.

Anyway, thanks for posting the way some of the writers around the country voted. Very interesting indeed.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 1 month ago

Yes, I did mean North Carolina. Steve Wiseman of The Herald-Sun and Bob Sutton of the Times-News, to be specific.

I remember that posting on here that you speak of (re: Duke message boards), and I also went on to check them out. I didn't read a ton of it as I didn't have that much time, but I came away rather impressed as well. Informed fan base. A bit of an over-inflated view of Coach K (he deserves a lot, but the guy is not God... I don't think), but that is to be expected on any school message board. Certainly we have that around here (with basketball, I mean... the Gill haters are another story). It was interesting to see their point of view with regards to Self. Informed outside opinions that gave something to think about.

Woody Cragg 9 years, 1 month ago

I guess maybe Pitt should be up on Syracuse don't ya think? And if we are overrated where might Baylor be now?

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 1 month ago

I know people say there isn't an East Coast Bias, but when you are voting 3 one loss teams ahead of a top-notch basketball program that is undefeated, there is some bias. Like I said in another post, I can see 1-3 being in any order, but having Duke, Pitt, and/or Nova ahead of KU all three of which have lost to unranked teams now, to me is not good reporting. Undefeated is undefeated in a big conference. And if I'm not mistaken we would have already captured the PAC-10 conference.

DCLawHawk 9 years, 1 month ago

I don't know about East Coast bias, but there is an East Coast Bilas who usually gives KU a fair shake.

NJHAWK 9 years, 1 month ago

Big East is the most overrated conference. Nova is not a top-10 team.

Larry Smith 9 years, 1 month ago

It is an interesting dynamic here. On one hand, you have a good majority of posters saying how we don't desreve to be ranked so high, we play down to competition, we are overrated, we are lazy and unmotivated, etc.. On the other hand, there are posters who claim east coast bias because an east coast writer didn't rank us as high as other quality teams.

bocktar 9 years, 1 month ago

Anyone who claims there is no east coast bias has it. We are probably ranked too high, but if we pull through tonight I'll no longer think so. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

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