Originally published January 10, 2011 at 07:26p.m., updated January 10, 2011 at 11:57p.m.

Bill Self clears Kansas senior Mario Little for competition

Travis Releford listed as questionable for ISU

Mario Little, who is suspended, stands to watch the action from the bench during the first half, Wednesday, Dec. 29, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Mario Little, who is suspended, stands to watch the action from the bench during the first half, Wednesday, Dec. 29, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.


Kansas University senior basketball player Mario Little, who has missed the last six games while on indefinite suspension, has been reinstated for competition, coach Bill Self said Monday night.

Little, a 6-foot-5, 210-pound guard from Chicago, was arrested on Dec. 16 on misdemeanor battery charges, two counts of criminal damage to property and one count of criminal trespassing.

“Mario has met the requirements of the court and has received a diversion agreement on the two misdemeanor battery charges,” Self revealed Monday.

“He has not only met the requirements of the court but also the requirements of our basketball program. One of those stipulations is his receiving weekly counseling that will continue through the end of our basketball season.”

Little, according to the original police report, pushed a 22-year-old Lawrence female resident in an attempt to find a person listed as his girlfriend. The police report indicated he pushed the person identified as his girlfriend into a sink. He also had confrontations with two men in the early morning hours.

“We as a program take the events of Dec. 16 very seriously,” Self said. “Mario made mistakes and exercised poor judgment. We have let the legal process play out, and have been able to evaluate Mario in the last four weeks in a variety of ways, including counseling. We feel he should be allowed to rejoin our team for games.”

Little played in nine games prior to his suspension, averaging 6.2 points off 55 percent shooting. He will be eligible to play in Wednesday’s 8 p.m. Big 12 opener at Iowa State.

“I believe in Mario,” Self said. “He has been a pleasure to coach and I am certainly proud of the fact he only has three hours left to graduate (in African-American Studies). I’m more concerned about what’s best for our program rather than an individual, but in this case, I believe he deserves a second opportunity to finish his career in uniform. I have consulted with many people about this, and after a lot of deliberation feel confident this is the best thing to do.”

Little issued his take on the situation on Monday night: “I have appreciated all the support people have shown me, especially my teammates,” Little said. “I accept responsibility for what took place that evening and have learned from it and feel awful about it. I’m appreciative of the opportunity to come back. The last four weeks have given me time to reflect and reevaluate a lot of things with myself. I certainly anticipate not only handling situations better but also feel I have become a much better person because of this.”

Releford injury update: KU sophomore guard Travis Releford, who sprained his left ankle late in the first half of Sunday’s 67-60 overtime victory at Michigan, is listed as questionable for the Iowa State game.

“Travis is actually doing pretty well,” Self said Monday on his Hawk Talk radio show. “We did all the X-rays and everything. He has a pretty severe ankle sprain. They worked on it a lot today getting the swelling down. I’d say his status for Wednesday is up in the air. It’s better than doubtful. I hope we have him. I don’t know if that will be the case or not. We’re going to need him down the road, that’s for sure. I don’t anticipate him missing more than one game if he misses any.”

On second thought: Self, after watching the game films, had this to say about Sunday’s win at Michigan:

“I thought we took a little step back yesterday, but one thing we did yesterday was play great in overtime,” Self said on the Big 12 weekly coaches teleconference.

KU outscored Michigan, 16-9, in OT.

“To win on the road when we went 2-for-20 from three in regulation ... they shot it miserably as well. Some nights you have to figure a way to win. We let it get away from us by being so careless., but we played well down the stretch and made some nice plays. This might sound strange to say, but that was probably good for us (in long run) to lose momentum and have to come back and get it back. I definitely take some positives out of that game.”


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

A really fun post,

and the field makes sensei

but in the beginning was the word

and the begats...

Okie Ball begat Self.

And while time past can be our enemy

The good of the past revived in the present

is a moral good in any universe.

Okie Ball and Self.

Tradition and the individual talent.

Take care not to sever them

Or the head dies, too.

Otherwise, Bill is on the Tao of Wood and

sometimes even the walker does not

know how he does it, or



jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

But this is a problem too, because Selby is apt not to shoot as high of a percentage getting to the rim as Marcus working the paint for high percentage shots. Getting a few more treys, but scoring less efficiently in the paint, is a very watered down improvement.

Now we know why Self is letting Selby shoot 10 times a game, mostly treys, even on 1 for 10 nights. Reed and Morningstar are not getting it done, but he does not dare give up their protection, lest he fall even farther behind OSU in this regard.

Self thinks Selby is the only probable way through the wicket, if Reed and Morningstar continue to fail as trey shooters. And if Reed were to get untracked, then Self would have Selby, Marcus and Reed at 40%.

But that is betting on the come--betting Selby learns to protect and Reed can get back his touch while tired legged from big minutes.

The only other alternative is to run and score more in transition.

KU separates from teams with transition, because the transition baskets substitute for the weak trey shooting.

But Self's Okie Ball philosophy is take what they give us, not force frequency up.

And every opponent from here on is likely to do whatever it takes to prevent a high frequency game with lots of transition baskets. And it is likely to dense pack the paint, and let Selby beat them on his good nights, and let Selby beat KU on his bad nights.

Tough spot, Coach Self. This is usually where you pull a rabbit out of your hat with masking, and some kind of clever redistribution of shooting.

This could be your best trick yet.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Three Point Shooting: OSU is relying on Diebler, who has made 50 of 100 treys! Lighty also is shooting 46% on 64 attempts. There other trey shooters are weak, so their overall trey percentage is only slightly better than KU's .396 to .382. But in contrast, Reed and Morningstar have completely bombed as Trinitarians this season. Reed is at 34% and Brady is at 29%. This has forced Self to turn to the streaky Selby who is at 46%, but tapering downward, and Marcus who has finally climbed up to 41% after a cool start. He's also giving more treys attempts to EJ and Releford when subbing. Releford and EJ show promise as trey shooters, both being in the 40s, but they have had few shots. OSU shoots more treys than KU, too. Trey shooting Advantage: OSU, unless Reed and Morningstar come around, or Selby can stay hot, or Self turns to EJ and Releford even more.

Distillate: KU shoots a little better inside, OSU shoots a little better outside. We defensive rebound way better, OSU offensive rebounds way better. They are big and tough, but KU is probably about as big and tough. They FT shoot just a hair better. The glaring short fall is in Disruption. Both teams strip about the same, but OSU protects way better.

Do you hear this team?

OSU can beat you right now, mostly because of your bad ball protection.

KU and Self have to find a way to protect better.

If KU can't protect better, then it has to become a better trey shooting team.

Frankly, it needs to do both.

Tyshawn and Selby have to cough it up less.

Reed and Brady have to shoot better, or EJ and Releford have to be given more shots and that means more PT.

Self is in a real bind. If he gives EJ and Releford more minutes, to get their trey shooting, the TOs are likely to spike. If he stands pat with Tyrel and Selby, they are cancelling each others strengths. Selby is shooting well, but coughing up the TOs. Reed is shooting poorly, but protecting well.

Tyrel, you are a senior. You are being asked to do way more than ever before. But its not enough. You have to hit the treys. You have to do it all this year. Selby is too streaky without you pushing 40%.

Self is trying to give more treys to Selby and Marcus in hopes they can allow Self to keep Reed and his good disruption stat on the floor.

The only other choice it seems is to keep shooting fewer treys, have Marcus step out and take a lot more, and use his stepping out as a corridor for Selby to attack the rim.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

"Ohio State vs. Kansas: They Would Beat Us Now with Disruption"

I started with that horrible, vile, evil, nasty, nausea inducing title to this post, because it is time this fine, but experience-challenged team of ours to get with it on Disruption, specifically on protection.

Ohio State is one big dog in the road to a ring. Pitt is another. Duke we can handle, because our defense will take away so many of their strengths.

Ohio State is the greatest threat, not because of how much talent they have, but because the Buckeyes are really the only team in the country that could beat us at our own game of Self Ball.

No, the Buckeyes' coach, the Mad Hatta Thad Matta, is not a member of the Okie Baller mafia. He is instead perhaps now the ranking member of the Herb Sendek mafia.

Self Ball, now the quintessence of Okie Ball, distills to:

a) tough m2m defense b) play it any frequency they want, 70 point take what they give offensive philosophy c) big, strong and 3 deep inside with a fourth for bridge. d) a PG and two combo perimeter players with two back ups e) two 40% trey shooters on the perimeter most of the time f) a great disruption statistic

Ohio State shares the m2m defensive philsophy and KU and OSU are probably a wash there--KU maybe a little longer, OSU may be a little more physical. Advantage: equal.

Ohio State believes in setting frequency, not playing any way the other guys want. But the pace they play at is pretty centrist, break when you've got it, half court most of the time. So OSU hewing to the center will make us hew to the center, where we like to be most of the time, too. Advantage: equal.

Inside they are not quite as big and strong as us, but close. And they have the numbers. KU has more experience in the paint.--Advantage KU.

Perimeter: Advantage KU, if Selby is on, not if not.

Disruption: Here is the ugly shocking truth. The Buckeyes are sharply better than KU in disruption, which is KU's traditional ace in the hole. On the season strips to TOs look like this for both teams:

Team: Strips/TOs OSU: 136/178 KU: 140/211

Disruption Advantage: OSU, no contest


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Spatial modelling and analysis has been growing rapidly in use and importance since persons with computers began to be able to quickly express data relationships, as lines and curves fitted through data clouds, and as scatter plots of bias in residual error clouds triggered by how poorly lines and curves fitted with the observed events of reality.

GIS just took this trend into an intensely graphical realm with an often very realistic portrayal of action in 3D.

A piece of software I have long contemplated and wished for is one that converts feeds from an overhead camera and a courtside camera of the floor into a dynamic GIS (geographic information system model of each game and of each season that can run what if tests by varying quantities and functional relationships of what is captured by the camera. A kind primitive MRI scan of a game that can be analysed and what-if tested after the game has been played, maybe even tracked some in real time by an assistant coach, who would naturally be some mix of a spatial and a stochastic nerd, but who also knew basketball, the way a Radiologist knows bodies, or an aero space engineer using CAD CAMs knows aircraft and flying.

Quantitative analysis of basketball is still largely stuck back in the primitively pre, and primitive graphic 20th Century. KENPOM, and the like, helpful as they are, are QA primitive, because they do not model and analyze fundamentally spatial information in a spatial framework of analysis.

Basketball is first and foremost a spatial game played horizontally and vertically.

Coach Spock, please scan and analyse the Michigan game. I want an analysis of what spatial relationships we need to vary to get better and so achieve a wider margin of victory the next time we run into that G!@#$%^d offense.

Scotty, beam us up out of Crisler Arena as soon as possible.

Kirk out.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Just as not everyone can sing, or stuff, not everyone is good at spatial analysis. If you scored high in spatial reasoning, as I often did, it comes pretty naturally. It makes a person like me say, gee, these maps, and the stochastic QA that generates them and then models and analyses with in them, make sooooooo much more sense, than just the numbers that the guys "good in math" are so effective with.

But here is the thing: spatial mapping turns our to have so much capacity to uncover spatial relationships in spatially plotted data that even the pure numerical quantoids so slick with numeric and letter and funciton symbolization have had to learn to "get spatial."

It turns out that because we live in 3 dimensions, and what we study is mostly happening in 3 dimensions, and we see stereoscopically, and our brains have neural nets in a 3 dimensional glob of cortex, that there just does to seem to be some benefit to 3D graphical analysis. It can often make manifest, or at least hint at, new spatial relationships we had not observed or imagined before.

Don't misunderstand, once we recognize the new spatial patterns, we still have to play grind it out with numbers and statistics so as to really, really understand and use them with dexterity and wisdom and accuracy and reliability.

And there usually is some synergy between abstracting phenomena with both a graphical model, and with a more strictly stochastic model. The spatial guys will see relationships in one. The numerical guys will see some relationships in the numerical abstractions. And one feeds into the other and back again resulting in better and better maps and better and better stochastic mathematical models.

Oh, jaybate, my head hurts. I just want to post about the game of baskets! Stop yourself. Please?

Sorry, this is the e-ticket ride to Modelling for Dummies, a group all humans basically belong to, whether our pride permits us to say so, or not.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

But to really take analysis of basketball activity into the 21st century one needs a robust GIS system. The military uses GIS to map every realm of battle, on land, in the air, underseas, in space, inside the brain, inside cyberspace, where ever they plan to compete (i.e., fight) for turf. A cruise missle or a UAV drone rely on GIS to get them to the target and do their murderous, destructive, fundamentally spatial business.

What happens in the 3D matrix of a baskeball game is a GIS model waiting to happen.

When you play football and basketball video games you are already half way "there."

In numbers, alone, there often is no there there, to borrow from Gertrude Stein, or only a very, very few can recognize the there that is there.

In graphical representation of spatial data and relationships, there is mostly there there.

And spatially speaking, there is a lot of knowledge to be data mined "there."

And I suspect that there is a lot of basketball knowledge waiting to be data mined in GIS based simulation of the 3D basketball matrix and what happens in it along times forward pointing arrow.

Consider the Princeton offense as a mapping phenomenon. You could consider any scheme of play as a mapping phenomenon. I pick it simply because it is fresh in everyone's minds after the Michigan game.

The Princeton offense works, to the extent that it does, because it is a fairly complex series of critical paths mapped through an increasingly complex game space, at least increasingly complex for a defensive team to negotiate in chase. Its mapped paths are not only establishing paths of movement through space, as does a road put through a wilderness, the paths themselves introduced complexity into the game space, and increasing complex of highways in a city introduces complexity. Those running the Princeton have read the map and know when and where the critical paths will unfold. The defender usually knows the Princeton map less well, and is also not used to the amount and kind of complexity it crafts into the game space. Thus, a Princeton team, which may not have a talent advantage, may have a strategic, if you will, spatial mapping advantage, unless the opponent can disrupt the Princeton scheme, so that it plays out enough less predictably that its players make mistakes, because the reality of the game space keeps not conforming to the mapped versions of game space.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Mapping can be 2D, or 3D. If you ever gotten inside a video game environment at an arcade, you are basically sitting inside a 3D map with a screen simulating a 3D map in 2D, unless you whip out the 3D glasses that reveal that the screen your watching is actually a coordinate matrix with X, Y and Z dimensions and the glasses help bring into focus the illusion of depth created by the quite real Z dimension in the data. You remember the Z dimension. It is the one that the statistics teacher added to the X and Y dimensions and said, "See, now we have a phase space simulation of 3 dimensions. Now we can explore topologies with much more sophistication and nuance." And then you started thinking about the incredible topologies of the nubile sorority woman you met at the bar the night before.

A basketball court, in case you hadn't noticed is an X, Y, Z coordinate matrix surrounded by seats of screaming fans and topped by lights, a scoreboard and a roof. AFH is itself an X, Y, Z coordinate matrix that contains the basketball court matrix. The Y axis of the field house rises up a good bit higher than the basketball court matrix to make plenty of room for nose bleed seats an associated revenues.

The 3D basketball matrix is something like 90 x 50 in the horizontal dimensions (X and Z). But it is only about 15 feet high in the vertical dimension (the Y axis).

That 15 is kind of fuzzy. Naismith never really specified the Y axis of basketball beyond the goal height. Players may jump as high as they can. Today most can get up around 12 feet. A few can go 13-14. A very few can get up to 15, the way Wilt could.

We could map basketball information in a GIS that simulated the X,Y,Z axes of the basketball court matrix.We could do it very abstractly and inflexibly with Microsoft Excel, using its 3D spread sheet capability to simulate the 3D matrix of the basketball court. I used to use Excel for just such spatial analysis long ago. It is still a wonderful first cut modelling device for spatial data analysis in 3 dimensions, though most persons just think its good for accounting abstractions.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

And so GIS, or geographic information systems software was created for the geographers, well, probably for the military strategists first, but then geographers have always worked for the army and the navy. Gotta have a map to invade a continent. Gotta have a map to take control of an ocean, right?

Geographic information system (GIS) software came along and allowed maps of any things, events, and processes occurring in space (and so having measurable spatial relationships) to be expressed not just as highly abstracted and formalized statistics, but as maps. Maps like the paper ones your parents used to carry in the old Buick. Or digital maps like those that appear on GPS screens in your parents new Prius.

Throughout human history maps have been one of the killer apps.

Historically, those with the best maps often win competitive activity, because how we get where we want to go always depends crucially on where things are in relation to where we are. There tend to be several paths to go to a destination, and both players in a two person, competitive game, always have expectations about which is the critical path. If Player A has the better map, showing a quicker, more survivable, or more suprising path, Player A tends to surprise and defeat his opponent, because he is able to turn the knowledge of the game space, and his opponent's faulty expectations of critical path (based on lesser knowlege of a lesser map) against his opponent. This works in war. It works in fast food franchise location. Filling station placement. Regional shopping center placement. Microwave transmitter placement. Satellite placement. Nuclear submarine placement. Basketball arena placement. Post man placement. Wing guard placement. Power forward placement. Shot placement. Placement of defender. You name it, and it works there. And the key word is "there." We are talking real world here...three dimensions...whether at the scale of the universe, the galaxy, the solar system, the earth, any place on the earth. inside the human mind and body, inside the chromosome, inside the atom, inside the super collider, and back up again to the universe. Space, baby, its always the final frontier.

GIS lets you take a map of Kansas and put layer upon layer upon layer of spatial information. It also lets you, if you really know your stochastic quantitative stuff, build dynamic models of what goes on with all that data within each layer, or among all those layers. How much grant money you have depends on how accurate and how dynamic the map is. Mapping can be static like a picture, or dynamic, like a movie, or a YouTube feed.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Physicists, of course, look down on mathematicians about as much as mathematicians look down on physcists. The truth is that underneath a physicist is an applied mathematician. True mathematicians study numbers and their properties and their functional relationships and it is only serendipity if what they discover has actual physical application in...physics . The neat thing is that the more mathematicians try to be completely disconnected from physical reality, the more their mathematical abstractions tend to turn out to have some utility for physicists, and engineers and gamblers, and so on.

Help me, help me, help me, jaybate, you are driving me insane. Where is the hoops? Heck, where is the spatial? You're off in mathematics and physics and engineering.

And now geography and geographers.

(Reader picks up gun. jaybate takes it from reader and locks it away.)

Outside the mathematicians, who are the scientific equivalent of extremely long haired musicians in science, among the plastic pocket pen holder crowd of applied scientists, even those with theoretical bents, everyone works at different scales of reality and in different places in space trying to inventory and manipulate things and explain models systematically. That's the chatty version of the traditional epistemological definition of science reading: science is the systematic inquiry into what is using empirically verifiable measurement and formal explanation.

So? So? Hoops? Spatial thinking? Geography even?

(Reader gets gun again. Turns on jaybate. jaybate reveals kevlar smoking jacket. Reader turns gun on self. jaybate takes gun and hides it.)

Almost forgotten in the 20th Century revolution in the sciences, a particularly odd group of scientists, odd in part because they still talked in plain English, that we call geographers persisted, sort of like Catholic monks in western Ireland after the fall of the Roman Empire, in the dignified, but slightly old and musty buildings on campus, guarding huge metal cabinets full of old maps...rather librarians looking after books.

These oddly conventional, and seemingly quaint and archaic geographers seemed an unlikely group to catalyse a scientific revolution in digiized spatial analysis, but scientific brains, being ever curious and opportunistic, no matter how quaint they appeared on the outside, seized on computerized data plotting capability that everyone from biolologists, to physicists, had been increasingly using to actually simulate spatial distributions of real things and dynamic systems.

Geographers were a bit late to the party, but when the computer software engineers and the scientists in all these fields cross pollinated and indicated a recurring wish for a digital equivalent to old fashioned maps, well, even geographers without plastic pocket protectors said, "Hey, that's our turf!!!! We're guys who are supposed to make maps and store mapped information!!! regarding features of the earth."


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

What next comes to mind to me is that even my simple disruption stat perhaps needs to be indexed for speed of play, or as slayr is persuading me to say, frequency. Trips per game is essentially cycles per game. Cycles have frequency. Let's not get into amplitude and duration now, because my little mind is not ready for that analytical leap today.

Unindexed, the speed of play increases frequency and is implicitly accounted for in my disruption statistic, but that implicitness may make comparison of disruption stats from a slow game, with disruption stats from a fast game deceptive.

Fast games have more trips (frequency, or cycles, if you prefer) and so even if players are not hurried into errors by speed, the simple increase in the number of trips per game should proportionally increase the total strips and total TOs.

Key Question: as the game speeds up, do strips and TOs tend to increase proportionally, or asymmetrically?

This research needs to be done before the Disruption statistic can be used with strong insight.

There is so much more to be studied and learned quantititatively about the game.

Now, class, get ready, because Professor jaybate is about to lift up out of the purely stochastic (a big word for numerical) real of quantitative analysis (QA) and into the realm of spatial analysis, which is where all the really sexy action is, and for which purely stochastic modelling is just short hand for those mathematically adroit.

Stochastic driven Graphical analysis of related data in every field of human endeavor has been the research frontier in most fields of systematized inquiry for some time.

But something happened on the way through the data cloud.

The stochastic studs, they were perfectly happy with grinding numbers and telling everyone else to trust them that the numbers, formulas and stats said what the stochastic studs said the meant. Lots of blind trust required in that sort of human relationship. I can't sing and I can't add, so if you say an n of six is okay, and if you say it is valid to trust when mulitcollinearity is absent in the error residuals, then I guess we gotta trust you.

And we did for a long time.

But there was always this subset of stochastic studs that were more visual than the other number crunchers. And this subset liked graphs. And they liked the idea of visualizing phase space as not just as a cloud of dots, but as an object full of contour lines, kind of like those on a USGS relief map, but more like the bumpy surfaces on a globe textured for mountains.

These visual guys, especially a subset of them in mathematics, started waxing on about topologies, because it was not considered good style in math to just call them relief maps, but that is what they were, and most of the mathemeticians realized this, whether they were visual guys or beasting, number crunching studs.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

"Disruption Statistics and Moving Basketball QA into GIS (Geographic Information Systems), or Toward Quantitatively Analysing the Game Spatially with Mapping Software"

plastiqueJHawk (and I have modified your alias to express your explosive posting game),

Your idea for broadening the disruption stat with offensive rebounds is an interesting approach I have never considered.

I will certainly think on it.

Some one last season suggested including blocks,too.

Both of these additions in my very rudimentary composite index of disruption have merit.

I have not added more categories yet, because I wanted to get a better feel over time of what even just the "strips to TOs" ratio really indicates and how often it is an indication of disruption consistent with what one observes anecdotally over the course of games.

The important point you make is that disruption occurs both inside and outside and a useful stat should be sensitive to the contributions of both to an overall indication of who is winning at the disruption game.

As it is in simplest form, it measures:

a) how much disruption our defense triggers directly with steals in the opponent's offensive play vs.

b) how much disruption the opponent's defense is triggering in our offensive play.

When the statistic is greater than one, we are tending to win the battle of disruption.

When our disruption is higher than their disruption statistic measured from their perspective, we are unquestionably winning not just our battle of disruption, but the war of disruption.

The assumption is that as we increase defensive pressure, the opponent ought to commit more TOs. Hence, my simple disruption statistic is a measure of defense driven disruption. There is one stat for our team. And one for theirs. Each individual stat suggests how a team is performing at disruption. Comparing the two stats indicates who is winning at disruption.


jhwkfan162515 3 years, 3 months ago

For those of us who don't have to deal with the legal system, what is a diversion agreement?


Justin Carlson 3 years, 3 months ago

I may have fallen of my wagon.....but I don't agree with allowing Little back on the squad. He committed a crime against a woman. Bar fight "football fight" fine but not justifiable . But if you look at any other student involved in a physical assault against a woman would he be allowed back in school and still be allowed to use the school for a "free ride." I just think it sends the wrong message for a basketball department. I love KU basketball and am all for second chances even with my own children. I know personally if my child committed a crime "assault" I would have a hard time sitting in front of Self and our new AD and pleading to allow them back. You made a major mistake face the consequences of your actions, not the normal hand slap of today's society!

Just my thoughts from a father raising his kids "old school!"



KansasComet 3 years, 3 months ago

Looking forward to the Iowa State game. It is time to get down to business. Who will be the go-to-guy(s) on this squad? I cannot wait to find out. Last year, it was easily Sherron. This year I think Marcus, Markieff and Josh. I loved the way Markieff stepped up and nailed the 3 in overtime against Michigan. We are going to need that going into conference play. It will be great to have at least 3 players that we can count on in a pinch. I also think Mario is capable in that situation as well.


YuCoJayHawk 3 years, 3 months ago

a second "who is that" question. Who is that sitting between Withey and Juenemann? I don't recognize him?


Vincent Patterson 3 years, 3 months ago

I sure hope this doesn't impact Releford's PT when he gets healthy again. His upside is way higher than Mario's. His defense and versatility is better than Mario's and the fact that he is only a sophomore, I would invest in his playing time and development moreso than Rio's. Plus, I like the fact that Releford can jump too and throw it down from time to time. Don't get me wrong, glad Mario's eligible to play again and is starting to put this whole ordeal behind him, but Travis has taken full advantage of the opportunity that opened when this all went down. Much props to T Rel!


KGphoto 3 years, 3 months ago

Not bagging on Self here, because it sounds like Mario deserves to play, (and because I would never dare) but if I were coach I'd be awfully glad of the timing.

Your combo PF/SF/SG duo gets a flat tire and voila, the spare is patched and ready for driving. Just sayin'.


Jack Wilson 3 years, 3 months ago

Now down to brass tacks ..

Self has stated that he will do what's best for the team first. Implied .. I won't play Little unless it helps us. I believe that. So. will it help us.

I questioned on another thread prior to the Michigan game whether incorporating Little at this stage might disrupt our rotation/chemistry building/minutes earned (but that was before the Michigan game, where, quite frankly, I think some of that went out the window).

One good point I saw on Little coming back was getting us in a position to deal with more physical play -- having a bigger 3 available/extra 4. I agree with that point.

But with that, is anyone concerned that Little getting back into the mix will disrupt chemistry, cut into minutes of those who had been building minutes, or otherwise ultimately be more of a negative than a positive? Is this only a positive development? Who sits to give Little his minutes?

**Important Note: The questions are posed understanding that jayhawkinnebr would suggest that we bench Brady and play Little instead, that Brady is a dud, and that Brady has never done anything positive. Ever. And that Roger Morningstar was a better player (because he saw him play), and that those bikes with the big wheel in front were darn hard to ride. Understood.


hopsnhawks 3 years, 3 months ago

atta boy Little

make mistake, pay dues, welcomed back, as it should be

we are gonna need that smooth shot of yours down the stretch I think


dynamitehawk 3 years, 3 months ago

Charging batteries is against the law?


Hank Cross 3 years, 3 months ago

Glad to have Mario back. But, it probably doesn't mean that much. I expect Self to revert to his "Safety First" rotation of the starters plus Brady for every game except blow-outs. EJ, TRob, Travis, and Mario will probably average about 10 minutes, most coming in the first half under this scenario.


tomoon 3 years, 3 months ago

Mario, you were the only one who was really painful after we lost the last game in NCAA last season. I always remember that.


Ben Kane 3 years, 3 months ago

I'm getting tired of waiting for a Deandre update... wasn't he supposed to announce last week? We heard something about paperwork for a grant...any follow up?

side note: this would be a good time for a Ben update as well.


Mike Bratisax 3 years, 3 months ago

Obviously too late to the show to say anything of great importance..which rarely happens anyway, so I will simply say...

Welcome back Mario!!


KuKain 3 years, 3 months ago

So glad to hear Mario is back. I was very excited about him when he became a Jayhawk. Glad to hear his red shirt was not completely wasted. Hope he can continue to provide valuable minutes to the team.


Jonathan Allison 3 years, 3 months ago

keep 'em coming jaybate. we didn't get a whole lot of news to work with last night!


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Reed is kicking glutes on the jaybate disruption statistic (strips to TOs). He's 2.09 to 1, which may be some kind of record. Anything above one is good. Two times one is just smokin'.

For perspective, only Brady, Travis and EJ are near 1 to 1. The rest are way below one.

We have a lot of room to get better on stripping.

Start pinching guys.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Marcus, TRob and Withey are neck and neck in the blocking sweepstakes with 14 apiece. And Jeff has only played one third the minutes that Marcus has and one half the minutes that TRob has. Self and 100 must be right. Withey is going to win some games for us down the stretch.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

EJ and TRel are still smoking from trey: 45 and 46%, respectively.

Make more free throws and Self will be slip you in every chance he can get.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

"Don't Foul These Three Jayhawks"

When an opponent has to foul KU late, Self could do worse than putting Tyrel (93%), Selby (94%) and Brady (83%) out there.

Heck, Tyshawn is even squeezing 73%.

Marcus and Kieff need to get it to 70% and we'll win every close game at the stripe.


Benjamin Piehler 3 years, 3 months ago

so, I didnt make this prediction. but after releford got hurt; another fan posted that little would likely be cleared soon. I had my doubts.... but wow, right on the money within 48 hours.

on a side note; I also heard around campus that little somehow managed to get his charges down only to trespassing... but I cant confirm.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Question: Who dat person in black street clothes next to Conner in the pic at the top of the page?


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Longest regular season winning streak (exclusive of post season tournament losses) in college basketball?

UCLA men? No.

UConn women? No.

According to an old edition of Digger Phelp's "Basketball for Dummies" it is a woman's basketball team at Mitchell Junior College in New London, CT, coached by Dan Mara. Mara's Mitchell Lady Pequots won 237 consecutive regular season games in the early 1990s. Phelps calls Mara a bit eccentric.

"He always started five guards, for example. His Samoyed collie, Pep, always sat beside him at home games. And he challenged his players to score 25 points every ten minutes, a challenge facilitated by his employing a full court zone press for the entire game." --Phelps, Digger."Basketball for Dummies," Wiley Publishing, Inc., 2000, Ch.14, p.227

Coach Self, junk Okie Ball. Go to 5 combos. Zone press buzzer to buzzer. Get a Samoyed. Erase Wooden and UCLA from the record books.

Rock Chalk!


ajhk 3 years, 3 months ago

Sweet to have Mario back, for sure. Is it bad that when Releford went down, the first thing that came in my mind was, "wonder how long it takes Self to bring Mario back?"

I don't think so. Mario basically got into a scuffle, similar to what Renardo Sidney did, though Sidney did it for lesser reasons, while he was on suspension and in front of the public including national television!

What did Sidney get? one game?

Mario, you've paid your dues to this club (are currently paying others) and all is forgiven amongst your loyal fan base. Play like it's your last season ever, and keep your head up!


Eurekahwk 3 years, 3 months ago

On a related note, why are the managers dating players? It is a job. Student trainers are forbidden from dating them. Perhaps a little more professionalism is in order. Otherwise, women have no business being on a men's basketball team staff. Let them go work with the women's basketball team.


William Blake 3 years, 3 months ago

This was the secret good news from the locker room. Welcome back, Mario!


waywardJay 3 years, 3 months ago

Welcome Back Mario.

In your absense nothing really has changed.... There's oppurtunity. GO out there and Seize it and make the rest of the season yours.


Steve Corder 3 years, 3 months ago

Classy response, coach Self. Welcome back Mario.


Christopher Johnson 3 years, 3 months ago

It only ticks people off because you call him chenoWhithey. I think we all agree that he has a ways to go, but the chenoWithey crap is below the belt and is getting really old. Withey is a quality kid. He deserves to be treated as such and needs not be compared to that arrogant jerk.


rwhawk 3 years, 3 months ago

Let me tick everyone off on this post too...the great part of this news is it means less chenoWithey this year. Now, like last time, please I think Withey can be great next year and the year after...just now by March of 2011.


KU_FanSince75 3 years, 3 months ago

I'm all for second chances. The best coach in America gave Mario a second chance!

When HCBS says, "I have consulted with many people about this, and after a lot of deliberation feel confident this is the best thing to do."

Mario, new chance, baby. Don't squander it. Your teammates are behind you. Talk to them. Fall back on them when times get tough. I know a lot of KU fans are pulling for you including "yours truly!" Good luck, man! Rock Chalk forever!


bradynsdad 3 years, 3 months ago

I really don't know who I would rather see play Mario or Travis play. I think Travis is much more versatile than Mario. Either way I don't see him getting much playing time for a while.


cklarock 3 years, 3 months ago

Honestly, it's amazing the amount of public groveling any high-profile athlete has to go through after a bout of the red mist.

Having been equally as dumb and reckless at times (coughmostofthem) during my youth, all I can say is not having to issue any public apologies might be the only upside to a 20" vertical and two left feet. Welcome back Mario, I'm looking forward to watching you play.


duanep5ku 3 years, 3 months ago

Good Luck Mario and welcome back


FairgroveJayhawk 3 years, 3 months ago

I'm looking forward to seeing him back on the court and happy he's able to complete his career at KU.


Nick Cole 3 years, 3 months ago

Welcome back Mario. I hope you learned your lesson.

On a side note: The fan's signs for away games just got a bit more interesting.


Joe Ross 3 years, 3 months ago

I think Coach Self handled this very tactfully. I'm glad he's done two things. One, he made a complete acknowledgment of the fact that Mario did, in fact, make mistakes on the night in question and exercised poor judgment. It makes me feel better about this situation that Mario's mistakes--and let it be clear to everyone: they WERE mistakes--were publicly recognized. But secondly, Coach Self realizes that faults don't doom people in life. "But for the grace of God go I." We all have skeletons and less than stellar moments in life. BUT Mario seems to be getting his act together and is in counseling. We are not a society that can not muster forgiveness on issues such as this. I just hope he makes the most of this situation and doesnt pull a CJ Giles on us.


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

Rock Chalk, Coach Self!!

Go Mario Little.

Show the court, the students involved that night, your coach and the fans that all of our support for you were justified.

Graduate and play ball!

The diversion agreements probably were crucial in making up Self's mind.

I know this was a very sad, unpleasant, and unfortunate event.

But I am proud of Mario Little, of the students involved, of the court, and of the coach that have given Mario Little a second chance, not just on the court, but in his life.

Whether you play another minute, Mario, and I hope you will, you are back on the path to getting better and better.

And to whoever the students were who were involved, it apparently took great courage and character and decency to set aside your justifiable anger and hurt and take this step for a fellow human being and student.

If it were up to me, I would have the team wear a patch with your initials on their uniforms for the rest of the season.

I for one dedicate the rest of this season to the other students involved, and to their families and counsels, who probably had to be involved in clearing a path for this to happen.

KU at its best, when it needs it!

Ad astra per aspera!


Selbyville 3 years, 3 months ago

Rio gives us stability, and he can keep our younger guys calm. He has high basketball IQ


Dyrk Dugan 3 years, 3 months ago

welcome back Mario! you knew it was sooner than later, when the court case got bumped down until spring. We need him now with Travis hurt....Self said tonight on his radio show, that he doesn't expect Travis to play on Wed...but he should be ready by the next one.

i'm sure Mario has paid his dues with his coaches and let's get back to work and make a get another chance...take advantage of it.


LAJayhawk 3 years, 3 months ago

Welcome back.

Will definitely help if Releford cannot go for the next game (or two). I wonder how Self will trim this to a 9 man team going forward....


Ian Brown 3 years, 3 months ago

Glad to have you back, Mario. I believe he instills within our team a toughness we sometimes lack. Also, his mid-range game is a great addition to our roster. Aside from Marcus' baseline turnaround J, we seem to lack any real mid-range threat, until now.. In addition, he gives us another much needed "big" since it looks like Withey just isn't going to work out this season. However, I'd like to see him pick up some of the intensity on the definsive end--in the games he played prior to his suspension he seemed somewhat lackadaisical, but so did the rest of our team. Anyhow, goodluck, Mario. I'm very excited to see you back on the court. If we weren't before, we are now undoubtedly the deepest team in the country.


jayhawkinnebr 3 years, 3 months ago

Looks like Les Miles is headed to Michigan. Well, its all happening like I thought it would. Rumor has it that there are phone calls from LSU to NU, and Osborne has talked to Gill in Kansas. Mmmm, I wonder whats up here.


Tuskin 3 years, 3 months ago

Once the punctuation is fixed, the last paragraph will be attributable to Self, not Mario...

Welcome back, Mario! Make us proud.


jayhawkinnebr 3 years, 3 months ago

Now with Little, maybe we can get Brady less playing time. With Releford and Little I think that when we bring Johnson in, in the mix things will get the team on the correct course. Little keep your nose clean. .


Ashwin Rao 3 years, 3 months ago

I am so happy for you, Mario! Hope you do well the rest of the season, and are able to make it a great career!


Dan Harris 3 years, 3 months ago

Welcome back Mario now prove to coach Self and your teammates that he made the right decision!


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