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Thursday, February 24, 2011

KU coach Bill Self praises Elijah Johnson’s defense

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson and head coach Bill Self slap hands with fans following the Jayhawks' 92-65 win over Oklahoma State on Monday, Feb. 21, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson and head coach Bill Self slap hands with fans following the Jayhawks' 92-65 win over Oklahoma State on Monday, Feb. 21, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self chatted with his new starting point guard on Wednesday afternoon.

“Elijah made shots the other night. I told him today, ‘I couldn’t care less about you making shots,’’’ Self said, revealing his message to sophomore Elijah Johnson, who scored 15 points off 5-of-6 shooting (4-for-4 from three) in Monday’s 92-65 home victory over Oklahoma State.

“It was the best point guard defense we’ve had in a long time,” Self added of Johnson’s work on OSU’s Keiton Page, who scored eight points off 2-of-11 shooting.

“I thought his whole focus was guarding Page. You focus on the right things and what do you do? You shoot the ball better. Guys that worry about making shots, they don’t make them. Guys that worry about doing the right things make shots.

“A perfect example is Elijah making the most of his opportunity,” Self added of Johnson, who opened for junior Tyshawn Taylor, who remains on indefinite suspension heading into Saturday’s 3 p.m. game at Oklahoma.

“He is our starter. I mean there is no doubt about that. Whether or not he remains a starter for how long, who knows? We’re going to Norman ... he’s going to have the ball in his hands, so we’ll see how that goes.”

Johnson has started two games this season.

“That’s a point all fans around here think about and study it because starting is so important (to fans). To me it’s not,” Self said, “but I do think when you start, you usually think there’s more rope — that you have a chance to maybe play through mistakes more than if you come off the bench.”

Asked about Taylor on Wednesday’s Hawk Talk radio show ... Self didn’t reveal how many games he’d miss for violating team rules. He did respond to a question regarding Monday’s ESPN coverage of the KU-OSU game. According to a Hawk Talk questioner, ESPN sideline reporter Holly Rowe reported that she spoke with Taylor, who said his suspension was no big deal and he’d be back soon.

Self said Taylor merely meant the suspension was not season-ending. He said the penalized player definitely did consider this situation a “big deal.”

“It’s probably a big deal when he (Taylor) is in my office and is so emotional he can’t come to grips with what is going on because he knows he made a mistake and let everybody down. You don’t see that,” Self said of the moment Taylor learned he was suspended.

“The interviewer in this situation didn’t mean anything negative. She was trying to refer to, ‘Is this going to be a season-ending deal?’ Which it is not. It’s not, but still I can hold judgment or reserve the right to determine when (he’ll play again). When people get out of that, ‘He doesn’t care,’ that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.”

Of the suspension, Self said: “Why can’t people just accept the fact, ‘Hey, a kid 21-years-old screwed up?’ The worst thing that could happen is if you let it go (unpunished), but if you let it go, nobody knows about it so it camouflages your problems. Here is a situation you do what is right. It happens all across America. You (coaches) do what is right, discipline or suspend or whatever and now people question, ‘Well they’ve got problems or they have character (issues).’ The problems occur if you don’t do anything and keep it from everybody.

“Sometimes if you can discipline somebody and nobody knows about it? Great. You can’t do that at Kansas with your starting point guard. That’s the bottom line. Why not put it out there and say what the situation is?”

Injuries: Self was asked on Hawk Talk if Elijah Johnson would eventually need surgery on his shoulder. It popped out of place in the Colorado State game on Dec. 11 and has bothered him off and on since.

“I don’t know exactly if it is something that needs to be addressed surgically or through rehab, strengthening it. That (surgery) would be the last resort. It’s not like it’s severely popping out of place. He has something, which I believe is very treatable, with a special kind of rehab to strengthen it. I imagine it’s the direction we will go,” Self said.

He said Thomas Robinson did not have excessive swelling in his right knee after playing 10 minutes on it Monday.

“Thomas is fine. He practiced full speed today,” Self said of the sophomore coming off meniscus surgery.

Going to rafters: Tyrel Reed’s name will be stitched on the banner in the north fieldhouse rafters that lists all of KU’s first-team Academic All-Americans.

“You can win some postseason accolades individually that don’t put you in the fieldhouse forever. You make first-team Academic All-American and your name is going up in the fieldhouse forever,” Self said. “Look up on the north end at the banner. Tyrel’s name will be right there under Cole Aldrich, so that’s pretty cool. He deserves it of course,” Self said.

Comments

Scott MacWilliams 3 years, 8 months ago

I might be in the minority here, but I'm hoping that TT comes back stronger than ever, focus-wise, and still has to fight like hell to get his job back.

If both TT and EJ are clamping down on the D, 40 minutes of every game, we will be VERY tough to stop going forward. Texas?? Really Burnt! Orange!!

With the twins and T-Rob getting a nice flow, Brady and Tyrel giving that fabulous senior leadership, the point is the last piece of the puzzle. Oh yeah, and then there's that Selby kid, too.

WOO HOO!! Is it March yet!!!

R O C K C H A L K!!!!!

FSUJHAWK 3 years, 7 months ago

I CAN wait on March. I don't think as a team we are ready defensively. Further, I am also not sure that we have a go to guy on the perimeter. Let's face it, in the tourney every single team will come at us harder than they have at any other team during their regular season and tourney play. They know our history and they know our weaknesses. Get the twins out of sync and play tough physical defense against us- a few terrible calls by the refs- and it’s a recipe for an upset. By us playing all around tough defense and having a go to guy on the perimeter we can and should be able to play through those types of games and be successful. I have all faith in HCBS and I know our boys will make us proud.

RCHJGKU!!!

Ron Prichard 3 years, 7 months ago

I second your thoughts, GBHawk. Love him or hate him, I think this team needs a focused TT to make a deep run in the tournament. I think Self realizes that, too, and he is doing everything he can to make sure that happens.

KU_Alumn_2000 3 years, 8 months ago

Always thought EJ would of been better off red shirting last year. This is the type of guy we would like to have within the program for a long time...and not have to worry about going to the NBA early.

Maybe Selby will end up being a Jayhawk for a few years.

kufankam 3 years, 7 months ago

it's "would have been" not "would of been"

dotcom -

Did anyone ever to teach you how to write a complete sentence with a period?

Grammar police, huh? Boom yourself and stop your hating ways!

Ron Franklin 3 years, 7 months ago

Your post has a lot more grammatical errors than his does.

WilburNether 3 years, 7 months ago

Maxhawk suggests that people should right like ignorant fools. Apparently that approach works very well for him.

kufankam 3 years, 7 months ago

did you mean to use "right" instead of "write" while calling someone else ignorant? can't we all just get along instead of hating on whether or not we capitalize letters?

Mike Bratisax 3 years, 7 months ago

Shouldn't 'did' be capitalized? Just joking..the grammar police would have given me a life sentence by now!

KEITHMILES05 3 years, 8 months ago

Totally agree. Ty needs to get his mind right and buy in and give 100% on and off the court.

Larry Smith 3 years, 8 months ago

It is nice to see Coach Self call out all of the idiots that think it is OK to make assumptions and feel the need to judge a kid without kmowing the facts.

Love the quotes.

“The interviewer in this situation didn’t mean anything negative. She was trying to refer to, ‘Is this going to be a season-ending deal?’ Which it is not. It’s not, but still I can hold judgment or reserve the right to determine when (he’ll play again). When people get out of that, ‘He doesn’t care,’ that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.”

Of the suspension, Self said: “Why can’t people just accept the fact, ‘Hey, a kid 21-years-old screwed up?

Pretty simple.

Don't miss curfew again, see you in Columbia. Take care of business.

klineisanazi 3 years, 8 months ago

Bottom line is that Taylor screwed up three weeks before March Madness and invited all the scrutiny he gets. It is not a media problem. It may not be a "big deal" but apparently it was big enough to warrant a suspension.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 7 months ago

86---yep, you said exactly what I was thinking. CS is the man in charge. Seemed like he had to clarify to the media that Marcus wasn't the captain of the team even though Marcus felt like he was. Love it. Best coach in America!

hawk316 3 years, 7 months ago

I applaud Coach Self for being consistent with his discipline. Dealing with the pressure to win, some coaches will let certain things slide...to the detriment both of the athlete and the health of the program.

Coach Self does it the right way, and as I have said on more than one occasion, KU is truly blessed to have him as our basketball coach. Hopefully, he will choose to remain at Kansas for many, many years to come.

actorman 3 years, 8 months ago

"Texas?? Really Burnt! Orange!!"

I like it!

Woody Cragg 3 years, 8 months ago

EJ can really play if he keeps the trash talk crap to a minimum. If TT doesn't "get it" after almost 3 yrs, IMO the job is Johnson's until someone else outplays him. Let TT move on if he pouts.

Andrew Moore 3 years, 8 months ago

TT has problems for sure, but he is a valuable cog in the Kansas Machine. I don't want him 'moving on' or riding the pine all year. He does do some good things on the court and the more focused he plays the better he plays. Its really just a matter of getting his mind right. I have faith that after this ordeal, TT will be a better player for us moving forward.

Jack Wilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Just asking, but what suggests to you that he will be a better player going forward? I hope he is. But curious as what about him that you have seen before that suggests that. I pretty much don't have any idea on how this will effect him.

Toto_the_great 3 years, 8 months ago

How can you score two points when you shoot 2-11 from the floor?

Brian Powell 3 years, 7 months ago

LOL that was the first thing I thought :)

But hey, he DID play pretty good defense..right?

jhawkrulz 3 years, 7 months ago

That was a messup.

8 points is how many he scored. 2 of 8 from the 3 0 for 3 from 2 2 of 4 from the FT line.

KEITHMILES05 3 years, 8 months ago

That was an incorrect statement. The piggy face dude had around 8-10 points. I know he hit at least 2 three point shots.

FairgroveJayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Congratulations EJ!

Big Monday games are great and all, but man, the wait allllll weeeeek long for the next game is a bummer.

RockCaCO3 3 years, 8 months ago

“You can win some postseason accolades individually that don’t put you in the fieldhouse forever. You make first-team Academic All-American and your name is going up in the fieldhouse forever,” Self said.

That is frickin awesome. Good job Tyrel!

Adam Collins 3 years, 8 months ago

The thing I like most about EJ is that he hasn't had any major off the court issues (unless I'm forgetting something). It makes it a lot easier to root for someone when you know they don't do idiot things (e.g., DUIs, shooting people with air-soft guns).

Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Reality check: EJ did start the season with a two-game suspension. No idea why. But as far as I'm concerned, that – and all the other ancient stupidities that people like yourself keep dredging up – can and should be forgotten once the young man has taken responsibility, made amends, learned from the transgression and moved forward as a more responsible young adult. And if a player can't seem to do that, someone else will get their playing time!

jhawkrulz 3 years, 7 months ago

Great point, and kind of reminds us of what C BS was saying. If your starters on the bench people ask questions. When someone off the bench will not suit up, people just let it go.

If EJ was suspended tomorrow, I think there would be the same scrutiny.

Clearly no coach likes to punish his kids, but it appears that our coach has been doing a lot of punishing this year, luckily we have moved forward on this.

kerbyd 3 years, 7 months ago

What I like about what Coach Self said was that if you don't have consequences for your actions it shows you have more "character issues" than if you just sweep it under the rug. Even if the media never knows about it.

4everahawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Page made two 3 point shots and 2 freethrows for 8 points. Reporter must have meant that he was held to 2 made shots...

HAWKTOPIA 3 years, 7 months ago

If EJ keeps the defensive intensity TT will not start again. You could see the whole team peaking around screens into the passing lanes as EJ forced both direction and passes. HCBS knows his team can score, the challenge is stopping the opponent.

If KU falls it will be because one player puts up big numbers. if we can clamp down on the point guard, neither he nor any other player will be positioned for high percentage shots. When TT plays defense he takes nothing away from the ball handler, and instead of the defense cheating into the passing lanes they are pinching into the middle to hedge the drive.

Bring it EJ, defense is what makes us click as a team.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

"Strategic Starters, Tactical Subs, and the Length of the Leash"

"..when you start, you usually think there’s more rope — that you have a chance to maybe play through mistakes more than if you come off the bench.” --Bill Self

Self short-handed quite a lot here about how he coaches with starters and subs.

Starters are usually the best at fulfilling the full set of attributes required by the role at a position, given Self's scheme for the team.

Subs have somewhat lesser skill and experience sets (compared to starters) and so a narrowed set of attributes to offer. Subs are sent into a game to add something tactically specific to what is already underway in the game.

If the sub doesn't give the coach exactly what he wants tactically from the minute he steps on the floor; that is, the immediate tactical edge sought in pursuit of game strategy, then the sub goes out and either the starter resumes, or another sub is sought to try another tactical angle to advance strategy.

Starting is strategic.

Subbing is tactical.

Starters may vary some, because of performance trending to inadequate, or because of injury, or because game strategy may change somewhat from game to game.

Alternatively, subbing varies based on tactic sought, and based on who delivers the tactical edge Self seeks the quickest and with the least unrelated costs. For example, does Little give him the extra rebounding sought immediately and without pop tarts, regardless of whether he makes baskets?

Player "development" is subordinate to the strategic and tactical imperatives of a given game, especially once conference starts.

Starters are on a longer leash, because game strategy, especially if soundly conceived, is driven by each player fulfilling a fairly broad set of tasks for the greater part of the game. As the number of tasks is large, some mistakes have to be tolerated, because it is unrealistic to expect players performing multiple tasks over a long period to be perfect.

Subs, on the other hand, are on a much shorter leash, because tactics are by definition quick and momentary responses to circumstantial shortcomings in strategy. The whole reason a sub is inserted is to solve a specific strategic problem with a specific tactic. If he can't get it done immediately, then it doesn't help to let him play through his mistakes to get comfortable. The problem is right now and needs to be solved right now, or the coach would have let the starter play through his problems in the first place.

Hence, starters have longer leashes, and subs have shorter leashes.

There endeth the lesson for today. :-)

kranny 3 years, 7 months ago

I agree to a point but what I learned as a coach from other coaches is subbing is done mainly for 3 things: giving players a rest and creating mismatches and getting a better matchup. Little is awesome for this because he is a matchup problem. When he comes into the game, he draws a defender that can't keep up because of size or being gassed. That's the beauty of having a deep bench with skilled players. I truly believe Self doesn't care who starts because anybody could start. It's all about match ups and gaining an advantage over a one on one defender. What gets interesting is when the opponent goes to a zone because you have to create a mismatch to an area not just the man.

Gregory Newman 3 years, 7 months ago

I agree Kranny that is why I would go with Morris Morris Little Releford Johnson This forces teams to adjust to you with fire power coming off the bench Reed and Brady and with no loss of boards with T-Rob and the dribble drive and dish with Selby and getting Withey involved for confidence. There would be no adequate adjustment to this because he can always return to his original Morris Morris Taylor Reed Brady. I deem this Big-Fast-Stealth-Wealth

cmm889 3 years, 7 months ago

"The piggy face dude had around 8-10 points"

The most hilarious thing i've heard in a while, actually laughed out loud at work when I read that.

phew, good stuff.

hawkitup 3 years, 7 months ago

I realize this is going to sound really bad, but let's keep in mind who EJ was guarding....a white boy. I would like to see how he does against a more athletic guard. Those are the kind of guards it seems like we've struggled against this year.

Scott Oswalt 3 years, 7 months ago

Little piglet is OSU's 2nd leading scorer.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Let me act as your editor here.

"Let's keep in mind who EJ was guarding....a quick runt on an off shooting day. I would like to see how EJ does against a taller, more athletic guard that is trying to get to the rim. Those are the kind of guards we've struggled against this year."

Voila! No loss of basketball meaning and insight, yet without a veneer of cruel and useless racism.

Outside the moral repugnance, the problem with racism, and with reverse racism, too, is that they unnecessarily obscure and/or impede reasoning and are useful only to keep some group of others in a place they would be better off not being trapped in.

Scott Bonnet 3 years, 7 months ago

Racist and stupid. Keiton lit us up last year.

Hank Cross 3 years, 7 months ago

Page, and of course more famously Jimmer, can fill it up. He's not just one of those of "glue," "heady," "scrapper," or "lunch-bucket" fan favorites.

jayhawktalk 3 years, 7 months ago

White boys are sneaky. As one myself, I don't trust them...

More significant than his being white, which is completely insignificant, he's like 5'6" tall. He looks like a chubby 6th grader who ran out of the stands onto the court. I find it endearing.

OSU runs a lot of plays around getting him looks, and he moves really well without the ball. Defending off the ball has been a weakness of EJ's - he loses his man. Not in this game or against KSU, though. Something clicked in EJ, and he's getting "it". If he can keep this up, sky is the limit. Kudos to EJ.

FTC_Jayhawk 3 years, 7 months ago

Re-watch the game and compare EJ's defensive performance on Page to our other guards' defensive performance on Page. Forget who Page is or is not, and see how much better EJ was than everybody else we had playing perimeter defense on Monday. Also, as already noted, stop being a damn racist.

Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Racial stereotyping aside … EJ's D looked pretty good in limited minutes against Pullen last Saturday. He's a relatively athletic guard, wouldn't you say?

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

"One More Thought about Self and EJ"

Self would be crazy not to start EJ now. Doing so, if EJ keeps playing as well as he did vs. OSU, lets Self keep Selby at the 3 and so be two deep (Selby and Brady) at wing point initiator. This means the initiator of his offense will always be fresh, always be a trey threat, and half the time be an absolute monster threat to put it on the deck.

But Self was making clear in the story above that he has seen EJ throw the ball cross court to no one a few too many times to marry him.

Self is basically a monogamist about point guards.

Self was married to Taylor.

The marriage went on the rocks. The coach was not getting his needs fully met and the player cheated on him, too.

They are currently in a trial separation and getting counseling.

At the same time, the coach has found another point guard that he has decided to date steady.

But like most spouses burned in a troubled marriage, while they wish to return to monogamy, either by repairing the old relationship, or by starting a new one, they are very, very, very leery of giving their heart to someone that might break it again.

And so such wounded spouses walk around saying multiple things: I am trying to work things out with my spouse, whom I still love; I have found a new steady who has made me feel very good recently, but he better perform and behave well, or else; and I've got my eye on another very, very, very attractive person (Selby), too, because now I know I can play the field a little.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Imagine Coach Bill Self as a jilted spouse in a troubled point guard marriage and you will see where he is with all of this.

Monogamists don't impulsively give up track record and legacy. Everything Tyshawn has done for Self over the years still matters has a lot of weight. And as the sting of unfaithfulness recedes, the more that weight counts. If Tyshawn can convince Self that Tyshawn is faithful and fully commited to the marriage and willing to make the fundamental changes in his behavior the head of the family requires of his point guard mate, Tyshawn will be given another trial in awhile, and if he performs, Self will go with the trusted, tried and successfully reformed...if this new guy, that Self has tried to date in the past, can't keep it up the way Self likes--the way he has just started to do.

And if Tyshawn fails to reform, and if Elijah fails to keep it up big the way Self likes it, then Self will soon look in the mirror and say, "Hey, I deserve waaaay better than this. I matter. My desire to be faithful and loyal has lead me to accept less than I deserve in life. Screw both of the, I'm going to start dating that other one, the guy who really turns me on just thinking about what he could do for me.

The player that figures out he is dealing with a jilted lover and figures out how to go to any lengths to make that jilted lover feel good about himself and about his family wins.

It takes a real man to win at this game.

Self wants it all.

Sound familiar? :-)

Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Love and War. Masterful analogies, Jaybate.

texasdochawk 3 years, 7 months ago

Dude, can we stay out of your fantasy life for awhile?

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Rest assured you are not in my fantasy life. :-)

Oh, stop reading my posts to avoid feeling compelled to make ambiguous responses. :-)

JRandall 3 years, 7 months ago

Amen, JFK... how much can one love to hear himself. JB.. it's hard to read any article on this site without encountering one of your Love and War post.

kushaw 3 years, 7 months ago

Wow! Self is really really fired up! Man, it's not often he gets as detailed as he does with his quotes, but he's definitely sending a message.

"Self said Taylor merely meant the suspension was not season-ending. He said the penalized player definitely did consider this situation a “big deal.”

“It’s probably a big deal when he (Taylor) is in my office and is so emotional he can’t come to grips with what is going on because he knows he made a mistake and let everybody down. You don’t see that,” Self said of the moment Taylor learned he was suspended."

I mean, there's no reason to get that descriptive unless you are sending a message. Not only to Taylor, but to the media as well. IMO, it seems like the "Character Issues" card that the national media is trying to play ha gotten under Self's skin a little and deservedly so.

kushaw 3 years, 7 months ago

I think you forget that Baylor is terrible! They are 1-3 in their last 4 games with their only win over Wayward. Baylor's ship is not a good ship to be on at the moment. With that said, sometimes teams do crazy things when they are desperate mode and Baylor is definitely in desperation mode.

100 3 years, 7 months ago

Exactly. He is also simply calling it like it is. Principles matter. Would brushing this under the rug without any suspension like Martin did a couple weeks ago with Kelly really help the kid in the future?

kcglowboy 3 years, 7 months ago

I thought so, too. And I was a little baffled by it, as if he was peeved by media and public response to the suspension. While I don't listen to talk radio, I do read all local media and I thought the public/media reaction to the benching was pretty muted; seemed to me that most fans and others affiliated with KU basketball took the news at face value. Anyone have any idea if there was anything in particular that set Self off?

kushaw 3 years, 7 months ago

Also, I don't know if any of you watched college b-ball last night, but there were some really good games on last night. I was literally flipping between 4 games Wis/Mich, Neb/KSU, Baylor/Mizzou (Not very long as it turned into a blowout), and Ark/UK.

I'll tell ya, the Big 12 is heating up and there are some good races going on between KSU, Mizzou, Baylor, and Nebraska. Here were my predictions with 4 games to go.

K-State: currently 6-6 (below puts them at 9-7)

@Nebraska - Win Mizzou - win---------->They can not win on the road @ Texas - LOSS---------K-State always plays Texas tough though. Iowa St. - WIN

Nebraska - currently 6-6 (below puts them at 8-8) Nebraska has a great opportunity to do something special. IMO Nebraska has to finish 9-7 in conference to get a tourny bid.

K-State - LOSS @Iowa St. - WIN Mizzou: LOSS-------Mizzou plays terrible on the road so I could just as easily see Nebraska win-This is a Pick Em @Colorado - WIN

Mizzou: currently 7-5 (below puts them at 9-7 )

Baylor - Win This is a Pick Em @K-State - Loss @Nebraska - WIN Kansas - LOSS This is a Pick Em

Baylor: currently at 6-6 (below puts them at 8-8) Unfortunately for Baylor, going .500 doesn't get them into the Big Dance. They have had some tough losses and their resume isn't strong enough to get them in. They are going to have to have a miracle to win their next 3 and finish 9-7.

Mizzou - Loss A&M - WIN @Ok. State - WIN Texas - LOSS

jhawkrulz 3 years, 7 months ago

Don't automatically pick Texas over Baylor....Texas isn't nearly as good on the road. Additionally, Baylor figured out Texas at the end of the game. Texas doesn't play the zone as well as most teams.

kushaw 3 years, 7 months ago

I think you forget that Baylor is terrible! They are 1-3 in their last 4 games with their only win over Wayward. Baylor's ship is not a good ship to be on at the moment. With that said, sometimes teams do crazy things when they are desperate mode and Baylor is definitely in desperation mode.

Eric Schneider 3 years, 7 months ago

Finally, Elijah brought some focus to all of that athleticism. Great job defensively on a great shooter. Page is almost as good as Lace Dunn at moving without the ball and coming off of screens. EJ shot the ball well. He also was lucky not to have at least seven or eight turnovers. He's not a true point guard, I realize that, but he still is just way too lazy on the passes. Thankfully most of them were tipped back to him or his teammates. But still, it's the best I've seen him play by far. And given the way TT and Selby have been playing, keep starting him as long as he plays like that on the defensive end.

REHawk 3 years, 7 months ago

Coach is doing the best he can to save Taylor, even in light of Taylor's comments to Holly Rowe, and the subsequent national frenzy regarding Kansas' issues with character. Beneath the strutting percolating b.s., the kid is a fabulous talent who posseses bundles of potential...if he can just manage to stay focused. The U19 success and accolades might have really screwed his mind in terms of blending with the other talents on this particular Jayhawk team and adhering to BIll Self-style of play. Considering everything this team has experienced by way of injury, family tragedy and suspensions, if the Jayhwaks advance to the Final Four, BIll Self must be recognized as National Coach of Alltime.

kufamtrad1 3 years, 7 months ago

On a team where I thought there was no clear cut leader I guess I was wrong. The leader is the same as it has been for the past eight years, Coach Self. He continues to prove that he was the right replacement for Roy. His makes great decisions on and off the court, gets the most out of the potential of each player, and is a great example of a father figure. America take note why wouldn't you want your sons at KU. Great men produce great men.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Does anyone else notice ESPN's hypocrisy and asymmetry in KU vs. Duke and K vs. UK coverage?

Hypocrisy: ESPN never discusses Coach Rat-Faced Consonants, who stole a ring for Duke with cheap shotting, and who has benched, nor publicly scolded his players for their frequent cheap shotting that he appears perhaps to coach them how to do as a tactic.

Assymetry: ESPN goes on and on about Marcus and Kieff, who both have been publicly disciplined by Self for vastly less cheap shotting.

Hypocrisy: ESPN never indicates that UK has a half century long character character issue, ranging from point shaving to their current head coach--Cal at UMass (infractions), then Memphis (infractions and forfeits for ineligible players and SAT fraud), and UK (a long list of reputedly shady activities involving World Wide Wes, Wall, Enes, etc.)--who appears rarely to discipline players.

Asymmetry: ESPN says this year's KU team has character issues, because Self actually disciplines a few players.

ESPN, why don't you just stick to better expectations for the gaming industry buy under reporting KU's successes and over reporting KU's losses and leave these hypocritical and asymmetric XTReme Cheap Shots at KU out of the package. The gaming industries can make just as much off the false expectations you create in betters with your skillfully crafted under and over reoporting, without the cheap shots, too.

Rock Chalk!

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

12^10backwards,

You drop'em first and take it from a Kentucky thoroughbred stallion the booze and horse gangsters just bought and named Gianni Calipari in honor of the head coach of the Lexington Chapter of Kentucky Point Shavers Anonymous.

Capice, nano manhood?

(Author's Note: Its so good to have a troll to kick around some mornings.)

bradynsdad 3 years, 7 months ago

I do agree about espn coverage. I think during the k state/nu game last night the announcers referenced the ku/k state game about thirty times. I am in between the lines of hating them because they only talk about ku losses but also I find it somewhat endearing because we are the team to beat. You never here announcers talk about how k state played against presbyterian because it is pointless. I do wish they would focus on more positive things about ku. I like knight, bilas, and even though he made some statements about out teams character Doug gottlieb stills pulls the conversations to the big twelve.

vmwskywalk 3 years, 7 months ago

It's kinda funny that Doug Gottleib has been one of the more vocal analysts to criticize KU basketball. He's also the only analyst to rank KU number 1 in this week’s power rankings.

tis4tim 3 years, 7 months ago

jaybate,

Don't know if you read Jason King's insider article on the NCAA Tourney selection process the other day (great article by the way), but toward the end he basically calls out ESPN analysts for their clueless devotion to the "performance over the last 10 games" notion and the "conference record" notion when determining their hypothetical brackets.

He talks about how he has to laugh at the network talking heads moving forward, having sat in on the committee's mock selection process just a few days day before.

Considering how often KU gets preempted in my TV market and now considering your charges of hypocrisy, you might get a kick out of King's subtle insinuation that ESPN analysts (save a couple IMO) are chumps.

Here's the link in case you missed it:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-tourneymock022311

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Erratum: make that "who has apparently never benched"

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

12stepsback,

Perhaps the same thing you maybe holding back by posting anonymously? :-)

Sally Presson 3 years, 7 months ago

Focus, focus, focus!!! We need these guys to have their heads on straight from here on out. We've got a great team, but dang, they can't ease up on any game from here on out. Bring on your A game guys and we'll be national champs!!! I was fortunate to get to be at the OSU game--great game guys!!! It was a wonderful game, enjoyed every minute of it, to the very end!!! I wouldn't leave a game early for anything. I'm so dang glad to be there, I soak up every minute I'm there. Was wonderful to see Thomas get into the game!! I'll be there senior night with a box of kleenexes. Hate to see our seniors go, it was a great 4 years and Mario, thanks for choosing KU. I'm from SE Kansas and Tyrell was our hero, I was thrilled when he chose KU. Brady, thank you for a great 4 years.

SCHNBALL 3 years, 7 months ago

SMACKDOWN COMES TO LAWRENCE:

Bill Self vs Doug Gotta Lieb (fast)

All proceeds go to?

I love it that he called him out. How could you not love to be point guard under this coach!

Hank Cross 3 years, 7 months ago

You're right. More often than not teams that suffer many ups and downs flame out early in early in the postseason. In post-game postmortem everyone says how they should have seen this coming and no team could be expected to keep bouncing back, etc. etc.

But, as Sarah Connor said: "The Future Is Unwritten."

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

"Destiny's just another word for nothin' left to lose Nothin' ain't worth nothin' But its free..."

--Slayr Kristofferson

:-)

Vic Janeway 3 years, 7 months ago

Michigan could have won last night......FREE THROWS!!! KU needs to improve! How many times do I need to say it!

Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 7 months ago

… say it until the twins shoot a combined 80% from the line. Oh wait, they did that Monday. Golly. Maybe they've already been working on that.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

"Some Ways You Know 12^10stepsbassackwards Is a Mega-Masochist"

~Types with a wireless keyboard between his ankles.

~Wears a black and gold latex Fizzou bustier with a spank counter sensor on the right loaf.

~Has an Insider Subscription to BasketballSubmissives.com.

~Special Visa charge card from the Bank of Discipline.

~Favorite sports novelist is Pauline Reage.

~Favorite fictional sports heroine is O.

~Got aroused twice during Alcatraz tour.

~Identified deeply with Tony Danza in "Who's the Boss?"

~Fantasizes about wearing only tennis shoes and being slapped by Bob Knight.

~Didn't call for help when beasted on by aliens from Men in Black.

~Has been in therapy about a 7-year fixation on Emma Peel from the old Avengers series that has escalated to 24/7 viewing of Mrs. Peel on YouTube.

~Has never seriously considered marrying anyone but Queen Lattifa.

~Thinks instilling more discipline is the answer to all of America's political, military, economic and kindergarten problems.

~Thinks singer Sade's full name is Marquis de Sade.

~Drives vintage Renault Dauphine with a bumper sticker that reads "Whip me, beat me, make me be a surrogate SAT taker for UK."

~Admits to fantasizing about the nose of Duke's coach in a way that has nothing to do with an Eye, Ear, Nose and Throat specialty.

~Once worked as the test dummy in a riding crop factory...and liked it.

~Taking dictation from Mistress 12steps for a book titled "Self Loathing for Dummies."

~Keeps writing in FemDom Party candidates on general election ballots.

~Keeps an 8 1/2 x 11 glossy of Gino Auriemia on his night stand.

~Begs all Jayhawks, "Give me more, sirs and madams, give me more."

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

No, its...heeeeee, heeeeeeeee, heeeeeeeee...

I'm having a great time with you.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

(And of course the above post entitled "Some Ways You Know 12^10stepsbassackwards Is a Mega-Masochist" is entirely fiction and satire and no malice is intended.)

Woody Cragg 3 years, 7 months ago

Likely the 12(High)stepper prefers lipbalm herself. That waaaaaaaaaa crap sounds like a broad that rhymes with witch.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

credit card swipe between the cheeks...

Posting Hall of Fame!

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

12^10stepbassackwards,

Back for more? So soon?

Gee, you've got it bad.

Tell me about your relationship with your parents.

HawkKlaw 3 years, 7 months ago

Bill Self is great. Its all about the D!!! Now if he could just help everyone on the team make their free throws...

jayhawkintexas 3 years, 7 months ago

I want to add my congratulations to Tyrel. Most deserving of the honor and thank you for being a Jayhawk.

tis4tim 3 years, 7 months ago

Self's double equivocation seems to indicate he's willing to hold open competition for the PG spot moving forward.

First he says EJ is without a doubt the starter.

Then, he equivocates saying, "For how long, who knows?"

He equivocates once more saying that as a starter EJ deserves more rope in terms of mistakes.

So, to me it seems he's going with EJ, but leaving the door for a contrite, but re-invigorated TT to fight for his starter's spot, all the while indicating it's going to be a long-term battle.

Because he's not going to yank EJ for the slightest mistakes, TT is going to have to show irrefutable proof he belongs at the starter spot. In the interim, Self and the team will hopefully benefit from two guys who are trying to out-defend each other, raising both of their games to new levels.

Of course, through practice, practice and theory are one in the same - in theory. In practice, they're usually not.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

"Of course, through practice, practice and theory are one in the same - in theory."

Worthy of contemplation by analytical philosophers.

Pithy and funny, too.

Posting Hall of Fame.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 7 months ago

Sounds like Yogi Berra was standing next to an open mike!!!!

Jack Wilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Quotes from Coach Self: “It was the best point guard defense we’ve had in a long time,” Self added of Johnson’s work on OSU’s Keiton Page, who scored eight points off 2-of-11 shooting. “I thought his whole focus was guarding Page. You focus on the right things and what do you do? You shoot the ball better. Guys that worry about making shots, they don’t make them. Guys that worry about doing the right things make shots."

If defense comes first, and defense wins championships, then why wouldn't EJ keep playing? If he as played the best point guard defense in a long time, we have the winner. Seriously, if it is the best in a "long time" .. what's the question? EJ is plainly the better offensive player (depending, of course, upon how much you value drives to the hoop that are missed with he hope of an offensive rebound to bailout the quasi-turnover).

But here's what I expect. Taylor is suspended one more game. He comes back next week off the bench vs. Texas A&M. Then starts at Missouri. It doesn't matter how good EJ is, or what he does. Of course, EJ isn't likely to play as well, and will likely have a couple down moments (but no worse than TT's worst -- see KSU, 1 assist 7 turnovers -- not 6 -- 7). And that could also be the opening to put TT back in.

Is that cynical? Maybe.

It's what I expect, based on what I've seen of coach Self. He is comfortable with TT at the point. He's tied to the hip with the guy. TT is his guy. He has demonstrated time and time again that TT's failures on the court, inconsistent play, lack of "focus", etc., will not diminish his role or his playing time. He is the one player that there appears to be no real consequences for poor play. It usually takes multiple screw-ups for the guy to find the pine, as opposed to one mistake placing others on the bench. So why should we expect a change now?

The only reason I could see hope for a permanent change now is that up until the OSU game, coach Self may not have felt that EJ could actually, competently, handle full-time duty at the point; and perhaps the OSU game showed him that he actually can (it is amazing what can happen when you actually place your faith in a player and not pull him out on every misstep, isn't it; .. will he stay committed to him Saturday if he commits a couple boneheaded turnovers, and start 0-3 from the field; and gets burnt on a backdoor cut? ... but I digress).

We can get all excited because of EJ's insertion in the lineup, but until he steps out as the starter in the Big 12 semis, don't get your hopes up. That's when you'll know there has been a real change.

If I had to wager, TT will be back in as the starter "having learned his lesson" and being "better for the experience."

My only suggestion is that if coach Self, in the back of his mind, knows TT will be back as the starter .. is near for sure .. then get the guy off suspension, and get him back on the court ASAP. Precious little time to "gel."

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

HEM,

As you probably know, I am a big believer in the slump hypothesis of extended poor performance by a player who seems to have all the tools required to do the job.

Ej was coming on steadily, despite limited playing time, and quick hooks, which are de rigeur for subs on Self teams, until about 2-3 weeks ago, when he went into a tail spin.

I believe EJ has come out of his slump, that what we saw is what he can do against other PGs, independent of shooting, which varies game to game and which is clearly not what Self cares about in this year's PG.

But I also think OSU did not have the kind of perimeter speed, strength and size to really test KU's perimeter players the way Texas and KSU did.

It is only sensible for Self to give EJ the starting job, and yet take a wait and see on a player who has been throwing it cross court to no one the last couple games.

I really think we have a great situation here.

We now have what we always needed: two competant, if not refined PGs.

But EJ has to keep being able to run the offense and control the opposing PG on defense.

EJ could well fall out of the starting spot, or he could well hang on to it. But either way, he and TT are going to be splitting time now, rather than EJ getting 7-10 minutes. I think they are both going to tend to play alot.

In the two games in three days brackets of the Madness Self will either go 50/50, or he'll play one alot the first game and the other a lot the second game.

I just think Self has Tyshawn by the short hairs and he's squeezing him even further into the role he wants. Self is making TT change in practice. He did the same thing with Little. TT will come back as chastened as Little. it will take TT a couple of games, maybe several, before he let's the lion out. But he will.

Self is basically saying you both are good enough to play, but who wants to get down and give it to me exactly the way I want it?

Board rats mistake Self for being conservative. He is not. He is a fastidious control freak. His appearance tells it all. He wants things just so. Not too much. Not too little.

It is important to note that Self didn't even hardly comment on Little., because terrific though Little was, he was just doing what he was supposed to be doing, only very well.

Self is focusing on getting what he wants at the PG. He just goes position by position over the course of a season and beats guys into submission until he gets exactly what he want out of each player playing his role.

Frankly the real reason I think EJ might be moved back to the back up, albeit playing 20 mpg from now on, is that I don't think TT can reign himself in enough to give Self exactly what Self wants in a back up role.

As I said elsewhere today, starting is strategic. Subbing is tactical. EJ is probably the only one of the two that can come close to giving Self exactly what Self wants in a tactical situation.

Hank Cross 3 years, 7 months ago

I agree that Self will revert to TT at some point. That appears his nature. He is a person that places an extremely high importance on known commodities. I always found it interesting that, as far as I can tell he has never worked more than a long day's drive from Oklahoma.

I would add one caveat to HEM's assertion that no one has been given more rope that TT. However he is playing now against inferior opponents, Brady got minutes upon minutes despite virtual non-production.

Some people think that the "play great D, don't make mistakes on O" is a great recipe for winning. And it may be in many cases. That approach, however, didn't work out so well for Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

What drove TT and Brady being given long leashes was that every time Self went to a sub to tactically replace these slumping starters, the back up did not solve the tactical problem, in fact made it worse.

We see with EJ that once you actually do it consistently, you don't just get more minutes, you get 30.

Between the slumping players and the injuries, and the subs that don't produce immediately on entering the game, Self is always going to play any sub who actually produces from the minute he hits the wood at least 20-30 minutes.

Self is always just looking for a few good men on any given night and he's lucky to find even a few.

Kye Clark 3 years, 7 months ago

To focus on your first question, why wouldn't EJ keep playing?, I would say that maybe Self isn't ready to make a definitive decision based on one game. What if EJ plays awful defense against OU, and then again against A&M? And I am as big a critic of Tyshawn as there is on here, but he has had good defensive games in the past; he did a good job on Pullen when they played in AFH, and he also did a very good job on LaceDarius Dunn earlier. I would argue against Self's statement that EJ's performance was the best we've seen from the PG position by pointing to those two games and saying they were better, because they were against better players. This is not to take anything away from EJ's performance Monday, but it was one game. Prior to the KSU game in Manhattan I would have said EJ was by far our worst perimeter defender (EJ had been said to have done the best job on Pullen in that game, which isn't saying a lot, and then was a non-factor against Colorado). Another thing Self is probably wanting to see is how EJ performs knowing TT is available to play. EJ was able to play carefree on Monday without the threat of TT taking his minutes, and with Selby apparently not a threat having blown his chance. We've seen EJ play tight all year and it is probably largely due to knowing he was on a short leash. While Self may be inclined to give him more leeway, Tyshawn will rejoin the team eventually, and it is unlikely EJ would be able to suffer through a poor performance over extended minutes without being yanked for Tyshawn. EJ most likely knows that his playing time will still be determined by his performance to some extent, so how will this affect his play? I can't blame Self for taking a wait-and-see approach on such an unproven commodity.

As for your expectation that Tyshawn will be starter again at some point, I agree. It puzzles me as well, but for whatever reason TT gets chance after chance. I would argue with your statement that despite his play and off-court mishaps his role has not diminished. Last year he lost his starting spot for a series of games, being replaced by Brady. However, Self seems to use these instances as motivation for Tyshawn. It is possible that he is using this suspension as an opportunity to do the same.

Kye Clark 3 years, 7 months ago

Something that frustrates me is that Selby was set to start Monday and in forgetting his orthotic apparently lost the chance permanently to show what he could do in the role. This is not to say that I disagree with Self making the change, but to not even give him a chance later in the game to play on the ball, nor to have discussed the possibility of seeing him there in the immediate future, I just don't understand it. This would seem contradictory to my theory that Self is not sold on EJ after one game, because apparently going into the game Selby had shown Self more to warrant playing there than had EJ, but after the OSU game EJ has a stranglehold on the position over Selby? The only thing I can figure is that Self knows he can't go forward with 3 point guards, and should Selby play well in the role it would cause too much off a log jam at the position, and instead is opting to keep playing Selby off the ball in his three guard line-ups. I would agree with this strategy at this point due to the time left to get things sorted out, but I think it demonstrates Self having mismanaged the situation by not getting a look at both players earlier in the season.

Jack Wilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Jaybate: I firmly believe coach Self is a conservative coach .. averse to risk, slow to change. Focused on doing what he wants done vs. adjusting as the game may dictate. The KSU game was a great example. No 3/4 court press even though KSU's weakness (one of them) is ballhandling, and we need a bit of a change of pace. No box or diamond and one on Pullen. I think he sees the risk of making bold moves more so than the reward. But I've never said that's all bad. I think it can limit the ceiling on a team, in certain situations. But I think it certainly limits the floor of the team. Coach Self has demonstrated that his floor is very high. Actually, we may be saying the same thing .. you say he wants things "just so." Agreed. And I think he wants things "just so" but is slow to move on or adjust, sometimes, in favor of makin things "just so." That's what I'm calling conservative. I assume you are using the term tactical in terms of the more precise, or direct cause-effect, used to address a certain situation vs. the bigger picture of "strategy" -- for example, the general starters. I kind of think that TT off the bench may be better .. TT (regardless of whay Musburger said about EJ being "just as quick" as TT) is really the quickest guy on the team. I've always felt that bring speed in, is more effective than taking speed out .. much like bring Jamaal Charles in for Thomas Jones on the Chiefs .. Jamaal seems even faster.

oxcal: I think you know I agree on your offense vs. defense point .. in basketball, the hot shooter can dominate even the best D. You have to account for that and have an answer. In football, for example, defense really wins championships. Hot QBs or RBs are shut down much easier than hot shooters.

ict: Self, and you're correct, is hesitant to go with the unproven commodity, as you suggest. Too much risk. But man, as I've said all year .. and last year .. roll the dice. Sometimes you roll a seven. He rolled a seven Monday night. My view is that from watching TT and EJ this season, really, TT is the riskier play. Your point on EJ's defense is a good one .. but man, the dude looked focused and solid Monday.

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Again, Self seems quite willing to go with the unproven player as a back up. He just is not willing to stay with him when he throws it cross court to no one, or other wise fails to immediately fulfill his tactical role. EJ had gotten to come on the floor almost every game this season, so it is not that he is unwilling to go with a new guy. His problem has been, until this OSU game, EJ has not performed well as a PG from the git go.

The logic is: why stay with a tactical substitution that isn't giving me what I need. I might as well go back to the starter and let him work through his problems, as let the sub work through his problems. The starter has a broader set of skills needed in the role, or he wouldn't be the starter.

Tony Bandle 3 years, 7 months ago

Ten Ways we could lose to Oklahoma on Saturday:

1] We show up in Stillwater. 2] The whole team goes Gottlieb and has their pants on backwards. 3] The football team shows up. 4] The Twins keep breaking out in tunes from the broadway hit "Oklahoma" 5] Players distracted by the ghostly vision of Billy Tubbs mocking them from the sidelines. 6] The little red head from Texas shows up with her cousin Jayhawk, Miss Cleavage from last Monday night. 7] Eat a pregame meal of Oklahoma BBQ.....:-< 8] Start laughing at old Will Rodgers jokes. 9] Forget that it's not 1988, it's 2011 and Oklahoma sucks. 10) Lose focus, take the opponent lightly, don't go in for the kill, etc., etc.

PS: Items #1 thru #9 for amusement purposes only. Item #10..dead serious!!!!

jaybate 3 years, 7 months ago

Take out those stitches. Suit him up. He's ready to post!

Jack Wilson 3 years, 7 months ago

I might take issue with #3 .. I used to play against some of those dudes .. a ways back .. at Robinson. Their top players might beat some D-IIs. And Oklahoma is close to a D-II right now.

And you got me thinking again on point #6 ... have to go back to the DVR.

KU_FanSince75 3 years, 7 months ago

Oakville---

What did that surgery do to you, man?!

You're funnier than before the surgery. LMAO big time!

benshawks08 3 years, 7 months ago

Isn't it amazing that among all of this "we need a consistent point guard" talk that we are still leading the nation in assists per game? Most would say the main function of a point guard is to distribute the ball and therefore should rack up monster assists. However, with this team more than any other I've seen at KU (even 08) that function comes from all five positions. We weave with the guards never really caring who ends up making the pass or taking the shot. The bigs run high low not caring who is on top and who is underneath nor caring if the shot comes from up top or down low. Heck, sometimes Marcus is even one of the weavers.

Others say a point guard should be able to penetrate because good things happen when you get into the lane. I agree, but again this year everyone drives. We see pump and goes all the time from our trey guns (the white boys) and our bigs catch, rip, and drive from the top of the key all the time.

This team almost makes defining positions obsolete. The all do just about everything (did you see Little with that little hook in the lane). It all starts with the twins. They said "we're 6'9/6'10, so what. We are going to play like guards because it's more fun." Oh yeah they can still get down and dirty down low rebounding, posting, and jamming (even if Thomas has to remind them how sometimes).

I've seen Jaybate posting about point wings for a while and I totally agree but would go a little further and say we use point forwards just as much. So does it really matter what position the announcers say our players are starting at or instead is it more important that we as Coach Self says, "have our best players on the floor" oh yeah and "we have a lot of best players!"

KansasComet 3 years, 7 months ago

I am proud of Elijah. Good for him, and well deserved! As I have said before, he is a five star recruit. Those are very rare! Given the opportunity he will play very well. We only have two on the team. The other is Selby. His time is coming. He needs the ball in his hand more to be effective. I have a feeling a motivated Selby, with something to prove is going to be a joy to watch come tournament time. Kansas is the best team in the nation. The most talented by far. All we need is to put the pieces in the right places.

SCHNBALL 3 years, 7 months ago

adding to #1 on oakvilles list, and stop at Eskimo Joes for 4 hours.

kerbyd 3 years, 7 months ago

12 steps needs to take in a meeting.

Scott Smetana 3 years, 7 months ago

My March Madness Fever is starting to rise....

Just bought my Southwest Airline tickets to San Antonio for the Regionals. Anyone who was there in '08 who can recommend a hotel near KU action? Riverwalk? Thanks!

(Lots of flights to LA if I have to transfer my tickets there)

Ron Franklin 3 years, 7 months ago

Great News for BlownJay Today,

My first born will be a Son.............

YIPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Now my grandma is trying to convince me to name him after Tyrel Reed......she must be a big fan, eh!

Jack Wilson 3 years, 7 months ago

Congrats .. the best line from the Simpsons. Homer at the hospital, and the doctor exclaims, "Congratulations, sir, you have a boy." Homer replies, "And man, what a boy!" The doctor responds .. "Mr. Simpson, that's the umbilical cord."

Anyway, parenthood is great. Hope all goes well.

Ron Franklin 3 years, 7 months ago

Thanks, I have two incredible stepsons 4 & 6 (though I don't call them that) they are my sons too, this feeling is a bit different. I just need two more and I can start working on my coaching schemes:-)

thanks again, HEM>

Ron Franklin 3 years, 7 months ago

Thanks to All!

Well, here I am again at midnight reading all these posts....trying to decipher the good from the bad and weed out the trolls and put my 1.5 cents in....too bad my brain is mush from all of these reports due this time of the year.....meh...a couple of observations.... --oakville, glad you made it back to your good self again. missed those lists.

jaybate...I have a new nick name for you, el matador de trolls. you can bang with the best of them.

ralster, ict, bate, & hem, I especially enjoyed your insight on elijah & tt. I'd like to know a little bit more about how the box n 1 & diamond & 1 are utilized if anybody cares to evaluate....I've also been thinking about EJ's performance the other night. Great, but it was just one game against probably the 3rd worst team in the league. Keiton Page is good and all, but EJ certainly should have been able to stay in front of him..as he did. I will be certain he is the pt to beat if he can handle the pressure vs texas a&m & Mizzou. He may not even get the chance to shine @ Mizery if Turgeon is successful in getting in his head. He usually coaches pretty good defense:0. As far as Self'sSemantics....I agree wholeheartedly w/ Ralster. He is just keeping the players on edge....a true teacher & constant motivator.

I'm never going to forget the day I ran into Self at the Sprint Center and exchanged salutations. This picture of the article reminds me of the exact thoughts I had when I saw him....if you notice how tight he is in this picture, just imagine the complete opposite...and that's how he was that night.Soo carefree, no worries, just a guy having fun with a smile stretching a mile wide. I wish I could see more of that in his coaching. He is sooo tight.

Speaking of running into people, I just happened to run into Josh's mom at her house the other day. I had the chance to visit with her.....I like to consider myself a good judge of people as I meet 15-20 new people a week,....and I think she is something special. It's incredible the warmth she emits.... I wish I didn't have to remain professional at that moment in time....have a lot of questions I'd like to ask.....one would be, "how and the heck does Josh screw up this opportunity by leaving his insoles at home?" That was disappointing, could have been him taking over the role insead of EJ. I'm fine either way, just hope to see everybody slide comfortably into whatever roles they have the next few games because here in a few weeks it gets serious.

Ron Franklin 3 years, 7 months ago

contd...

I'm still counting on Baylor to knock of UT and get us the regular season tie...though Baylors showing the other night leads me to believe they've got no chance. Guess we'll just have to take it from them in the tourney.....

One last thing, because I didn't get the opportunity to chime in on Tyrel's achievement the other day. We competed against Burlington in High School. & Though I was a few years older than he, I've been looking up to him for quite some time. He is what every small town Kansas kid dreams of....and he makes sooo many of us proud. I don't think there has ever been a Jayhawk that I'll be more sad to see go. I will cry like a baby.....

Rock Chalk

P.S. Grammar Police, please don't grade my paper today. My neurotransmitters quit firing correctly hours ago.

benshawks08 3 years, 7 months ago

Don't forget the horns still have a date with the kitty cats. I know it's in Austin but as far as I can tell Texas is who K State usually views as their second biggest rival (especially with Nebraska bolting). They'll be fired up and it could be a semi-trap game for Texas coming home between two possibly tough road games at Colorado and Baylor. If there is one thing K State loves it's playing spoilers and upsetting the big boys (probably because they can never be the big boys). I think we could all agree that we could root for the boys in purple for just one night, right? Or that hideous gray, oops that's at home. They may even wear black, who do they think they are Oregon? Next they'll be painting giant teeth around their court in the octodome, or octogog or whatever they call it. Anyway on Monday you might just catch me if you're sneaky muttering "go state" just once.

Woody Cragg 3 years, 7 months ago

I told goshenhawk last week the best years of your life are when the children are so small. Of course you already know this but this reflection helps us older (with AADD) people to remember as well. My two are 31 & 36 yrs old now. Bless all of you and yours.

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