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Friday, December 9, 2011

Keegan

Sheahon Zenger’s pick: Take it or Leavitt

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Some might ask why Charlie Weis, a coach with a national profile, accepted an offer to coach football at Kansas University. That’s an easy one to answer. He failed at Notre Dame and has too much pride to let that be his lasting legacy as a head coach.

The tougher questions will be sent Sheahon Zenger’s way today at a 5 p.m. news conference in the football complex, starting with “Why Charlie Weis?”

Zenger has to do better than the first quote he gave.

“This puts Kansas on the national map,” Zenger told ESPN.com’s Joe Schad, choosing to speak first to the national media.

Excuse me, but didn’t Mark Mangino and his staff already do that by coaching up a group of largely two-star recruits so well that the Jayhawks were ranked No. 2 in the nation with an 11-0 record before losing to Missouri and then going on to win the Orange Bowl? That team finished 12-1, ranked No. 7 and very much on the national map.

The other troubling thing about that quote — and the first quote generally is the most honest one because it hasn’t been rehearsed — is that it smacks of an athletic director more concerned with winning the news conference than building a winner on the field.

Weis certainly was the biggest name Kansas could have landed. Zenger made a splash heard ’round the football world by hiring a man who has had success developing quarterbacks as talented as Tom Brady, at New England, and Jimmy Clausen at Notre Dame, and as unspectacular as Matt Cassel of the Kansas City Chiefs.

The responsibilities of a college head coach differ so greatly from those of an NFL offensive coordinator. A college head coach must assemble a staff of assistants who blend the right qualities necessary to evaluate talent, develop recruiting contacts and instruct the recruits who commit.

At Notre Dame, Weis got off to such a great start on the field and in the recruiting rankings that the school felt compelled to sign him to a 10-year contract extension in the middle of his second year. Weis went 19-6 in his first two seasons, and the Fighting Irish faithful were convinced even better times were on the horizon because Weis landed Clausen, the nation’s top-ranked recruit who had gone 42-0 and thrown a California-record 146 touchdown passes.

In the next three seasons, Weis went 16-23 with Clausen as his quarterback in most of the games. Clausen improved significantly each season, throwing seven interceptions and six touchdowns as a freshman, 25 touchdowns and 17 picks as a sophomore and 28 touchdowns and four interceptions as a junior in 2009. That didn’t save Weis’ job, and he was fired after a 6-6 season.

Notre Dame, which doesn’t tolerate coaches who don’t smile for the cameras unless they are big-time winners, so badly wanted to end the Weis era that it paid the coach more to go away than the $6 million Kansas is paying Turner Gill. The Chicago Tribune reported that Weis’ initial termination payment was for $6,638,403 “under a separation agreement that includes much smaller payments through December, 2015,” according to information in a Form 990 Notre Dame filed with the Internal Revenue Service.

It didn’t take Weis long to land a job in the NFL. He tutored Cassel to a 27-touchdown, seven-interception season with the Chiefs in 2010. In Cassel’s other two seasons with Kansas City, Cassel has combined for 26 touchdowns and 25 picks, irrefutable evidence that Weis knows how to bring out the best in quarterbacks.

That stat should help Dayne Crist, a quarterback recruited to Notre Dame by Weis, realize that transferring to Kansas means he’ll play for a guy who will make him better. Crist started as a sophomore at ND, but was beat out as a junior and announced he will transfer. He will graduate this month and because of that won’t have to sit out a year at his new school. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, however, reported he is considering transferring to Wisconsin.

Weis comes to Kansas from Florida, where he was former Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp’s offensive coordinator.

In Weis’ one season as offensive coordinator, the Gators ranked 72nd among 120 FBS schools with 25.6 points per game and 102nd with 334.2 yards per game.

If Zenger didn’t make this hire to attract national media attention, maybe he has another major move coming. Could it be Zenger will entice his former boss, ex-South Florida coach Jim Leavitt, to leave the San Francisco 49ers after their season ends to come to KU as defensive coordinator? Such a move would allow Leavitt to rehab an image that was tainted when he allegedly struck a player and then was involved in an apparent cover-up. Leavitt shows he’s not that guy by behaving at Kansas and then takes over when Weis retires?

Comments

djhawk75 2 years, 4 months ago

Why is Keegan trying so hard to glorify Mangino and Leavitt? Both had a couple of fine moments in their times as head coach at their respective schools, but both fell from grace for crossing that line between being a tough disciplinarian and being a bully. There is a difference between the two, and taking from the press conference this afternoon we can be fairly certain that we will see what that difference is come springtime, when Weis has his first spring semester with the players. I'm looking forward to it.

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danmoore 2 years, 4 months ago

A lot more hissy fits over the hiring of Weiss than the anticipated firing of Gill. Hope people will get over this by the time he makes an appearance at AFH.

I like the hire but I do have a concern about his health. Read his wiki page and it doesn't sound good.

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Jayhawk1958 2 years, 4 months ago

Weis needs to hire Mark Mangino as OC and Leavitt as DC. I'm sure the big guy would like to get back into coaching.

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Chuck Stones 2 years, 4 months ago

Here's another reason I think Tom is a little pissy.

I think the dude at GoPowerCat.com was totally instrumental in KState bringing back Snyder instead of Gary Patterson of TCU. This is total speculation on my part, but I thought he orchestrated that by revealing early on that KState was looking at Patterson, forcing him to deny it. Paving the way for Snyder. Which is what he wanted.

I think Tommy is mad that he wasn't able to to the same thing with this hire. He was pushing for people and nobody was listening!!!

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KU368531 2 years, 4 months ago

Where do I apply for the AD job? Obviously Mr. Zenger is in over his head.

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KU368531 2 years, 4 months ago

Terrible, dude is not a college coach...and if you can't win at ND, you certainly can't win at KU. Waste of time and money!

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Jason Keller 2 years, 4 months ago

I hope that Lawrence grows on Charlie Weis and he is here for a long time. It's been proven that you can win at KU and we control our own destiny every year. If we win out, we go to the national title. Hopefully coach weis has success and sees no reason to leave at a later time.

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wally913 2 years, 4 months ago

I think Weis should bring josh Mcdaniels with him as OC. and Have Jim L. Dc.

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VaJay 2 years, 4 months ago

Can some of you at least hold on until you see who he brings in for OC & DC? Just spouting quotes from some pundits & adding in a few pieces of the past that don't look good for Weis doesn't cut it. None of us know for sure how this is going to work out. Let's see how the 5pm conference goes today. I'm cautiously optimistic!

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DocBean 2 years, 4 months ago

Leavitt to KU as DC, Weis head coach, Grunhard as Offensive line coordinator, and Crist as QB????!!!!

NO ONE could argue that group being the best KU could get.

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rhollinshed 2 years, 4 months ago

Wow! I was an am happy about this hire....SZ did a great job in putting KU back on the football map. Sorry Keegan, 5-19 in two seasons is not on the map. Anything Mangino had accomplished was out the door when Gill was hired. This puts us back on the map. If you can't understand that, maybe you need to work for the KC star with Sam mellinger who is a complete A** or some other paper. I get on KUsports.com to hear positive things about the Hawks. Please, if you don't have anything good to say about OUR Jayhawks, please don't say anything at all.

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ironhead80 2 years, 4 months ago

You know Keegan your are smart, motivated, good with words, you went to school and made something of yourself. I'am sure you get paid well? This is your job and your doing it well because of all the responses you get on your articles. I really can admire that! The people that respond to your articles have nothing to do with you, it's about KU and the community that we live in, this is our home, our team which you will never understand what it means to be a true JAYHAWK! You was'nt born and raised her you'll never have the feeling or previledge of what exactly that drives the KU fan. Your so consumed about yourself and the next GREAT article your going to write out there and you miss the oppurtunity to be a GREAT writer your just like every other journalist out there that write about obvious subjects, kind of like John Madden did when he was given commentary.YOU KEEP HANGING IN THERE YOU"LL GET SOMEDAY!

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dtownhawkfan 2 years, 4 months ago

Well we fired Turner so can we get Keegan out next?

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Randy Bombardier 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan has been trying to put a good spin on this thing from the beginning. I think he, like many of us, is dumbfounded by this selection. Adding Leavitt to the mix as the DC is also trying to put a positive spin on things. Does that set us up for disappointment? Maybe. Have we been set up for disappointment with the articles on Leach, then Fedora and Fulmer? Maybe.

Yet, I would rather have his outlook than to hear KU fans say "Just who would take this job anyway?" Think about it. There are accomplished OC's, DC's in both the NFL and NCAA who we could attract. There are accomplished head coaches in both college and pro. There are up and comers. There are veterans that want back in.

Ultimately, we will get over that. It is the disappointment of performance that we will not get over. We certainly can't blame Keegan for the sorry state of our football the last two years.

ESPN's Maisal says this about hiring Weiss: " Defense proved to be Weis's downfall on the field at Notre Dame. Three defensive coordinators over five seasons prevented the Irish from rising above mediocrity." Are you kidding me? It is obvious to all who follow KU we needed someone with some defensive knowledge. And we are told that Weiss has an ego, does not work well with others and that he is going to bring in a great DC. Excuse me for being extremely skeptical.

So, as far as this hire goes, I stand by my unyielding opinion that this is a terrible hire. And if Weiss is paid more than $2M per year and has a buyout clause I will be livid.

As far as Keegan goes, I think it was a poke in the eye for the AD to not come home first to make the announcement. Perhaps the AD was reacting to the way the LJW was covering events. I hope not. He needs to be above that.

As far as the article, I don't know why so many people of you are jumping on Keegan. He tells it like it is. And please, Keegan, hold Zenger's feet to the fire this afternoon at that press conference. We need details. Goals, Strategy, Name of the Search Firm used, If anyone else was offered the job, what killed such offers. Push, push, push. Build a bonfire under Zenger and Weiss and maybe, just maybe they will make it work.

But as for me I am done with trying to put a happy face on, done with "believe" and "let's wait and see" and "give him a chance" and "there is always basketball." Someday that last one is not going to be true. We may lose Bill Self. If OU and OSU go to another conference and the Big12 folds in the future then you can count on that. You can also point to this hire as the last critical move that KU made to put them in a good position should the conference fold...and we totally blew it. Well, not we. Just one guy. And i will happily eat my words if I am wrong, but meanwhile I am going to be the biggest critic until things change. Move over, Ahperse...

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RockChalkTrojan 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan, you're an idiot.

"Excuse me, but didn’t Mark Mangino and his staff already do that by coaching up a group of largely two-star recruits so well that the Jayhawks were ranked No. 2 in the nation with an 11-0 record before losing to Missouri and then going on to win the Orange Bowl? That team finished 12-1, ranked No. 7 and very much on the national map."

Yes. He did. But we fell OFF the national map every freaking year after that (ESPECIALLY these past 2). To contend that Kansas is "on the national map" for football, would be utterly stupid. Let's get real. The Orange Bowl year has been dubbed a fluke by the people who make the "national map." Get over it, Keegan.

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hihawk 2 years, 4 months ago

It was nice of you to read it, too bad you don't understand it.

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ManginoRevenge 2 years, 4 months ago

I couldn't even stomach reading this whole article Keegan...this one is a hack job

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jgkojak 2 years, 4 months ago

The press is so full of themselves - heard it on the radio too - 610AM - "Charlie Weis lied to me about why he was leaving the Chiefs" - hidden meaning "he didn't break professional confidences and put himself in legal jeopardy by telling me what everyone knows, that Todd Haley is an a-----e and difficult to get along with" -

Who the hell do they think KU's gonna get?

If we ended up with that Auburn guy or Mark Stoops, the press would be all over Zenger for not being able to attract a proven commodity. So which is it?

Is Weis going to be a step up from Gill? Yes.

Is Weis going to develop Quarterbacks? Yes.

Is Weis probably bringing a 4-star QB here for 1 year (Chryst)? Yes.

Is Weis going to instantly attract some recruits to KS who wouldn't come otherwise? Yes.

Is Weis going to design an offense that puts up enough pts to win at least 6 games a year? 90% chance, yes.

Is Weis going to get KS back to Mangino-Orange bowl strength? No, because he won't have a year where he doesn't have to play Oklahoma and Texas.

Is Weis going to stick around for at least 5 years? Maybe. That's the big chance you take with him. If he's successful, he could easily jump to an NFL head coaching gig, or a bigger college program.

Is Weis going to be able to attract a top quality staff? Yes. Better than just about anyone else we could have hired.

Not sure what Keegan wants.

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TheShot122293 2 years, 4 months ago

I have never bashed Keegan before, mainly because I think every team and fan base needs to have the home team sports writer whom they hate.

This is ridiculous, though, Keegan. This article is below sophomoric, both in content and style. You are a hack, a whiner, and utterly clueless.

Other than that, I think you're great.

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Casey Gee 2 years, 4 months ago

I like this hire. Weiss has already proven in the NFL that he knows the X's and O's. The big question I think everyone is asking is: Can he manage all the other responsibilities of coaching a college team? Here's why I think he can. ND was his first head coaching experience. ND is a much more intense football school than KU. That isn't a very easy place to begin a career. Now after 2 years away from being a head coach, Weiss agrees to come to Kansas. Why? He's hungry to change his legacy. He wants to prove to the world that he is a good coach if given the opportunity. And what better place to do that than kansas after our last two years.

In addition, being fired and taking two years off from coaching will have forced him to evaluate ways he could have done better. He wouldn't want to come back unless he truly believes he can do better. That's what I want in my coach. And when Zenger says he puts Kansas on the national radar, that applies to recruiting just as much as media. I think we needed to do something just to be able to compete for recruits. With an NFL guy like Weiss as our coach, high school players will take notice.

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thanksforcoming 2 years, 4 months ago

You have to respect a guy for accepting a challenge. He has already taught his first lesson. When you get knocked down, you get back up. I will support Coach Weis until he proves me wrong. I think it's a good hire and I can't wait to see who his staff will be.

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Matt Warman 2 years, 4 months ago

Leavitt takes over when Weis retires?

They are both 55 years old...........just saying.

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ejlumus 2 years, 4 months ago

Going positive .... Charlie's now a Jayhawk.

He is our coach.

Get behind him this may be our last chance.

RCJHK

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halogenlamps 2 years, 4 months ago

Yeah, not sure this guy is the right guy. At least he doesn't have a losing record from the MEAC, but he WAS fired from his last job for poor performance on the field. What kind of message is this sending? We can only get losing coaches to come to KU?

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danmoore 2 years, 4 months ago

It was only weeks ago most of you were saying ANYONE would be better than TG. Your prayer has been answered.

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hihawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan, your are the best, It's great to see all these little stupid idiots making comments about your articles that they know nothing about but, are just whinners and they pee their pants every day. They don't have jobs so all they have to do is sit behind their mommy and dads computor and whine like little babies. All the time they do that it, just puts more money in your pocket and the morons just keep whinning. I can just see you sitting there and laughing at everone of these nincompoops and saying keep it coming as the bank will stay open for the big check that is coming. I agree with a lot of your articles and they are worth reading to get another view of the facts. Keep up the good work Tom, KU and we need you, even with your pockets full of money.

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pepper_bar 2 years, 4 months ago

I just can't wait to see how much SZ is paying Weis in order to win the press conference. Isn't KUAC already 60 million in debt? Can KU afford Weis?

Sour grapes aside, this is a good Keegan column; lots of strong points here.

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JayDocMD 2 years, 4 months ago

On today's episode of Leavitt to Keegan...

Sour Grapes. How about an article admitting you were wrong. How about an article detailing how you are always wrong. That won't happen though, because that would require a bit of fact checking and research. It also won't happen because the list is too long and you wouldn't be able to write small enough to fit all your failures on the back of the cocktail napkin you usually scribble on.

It's clear that the bulk of your allotted 10 minutes of time to write an article is spent trying to think of a clever title. As with today's op-ed piece, usually that title has nothing to do with the bulk of the content of your article. You manage to throw out Leavitt's name in the final paragraph to attempt to justify the title, but it comes across as contrived and disjointed.

Conference realignment and this coaching search were the two biggest KU stories of these past several years and you brought absolutely nothing to the table. You were wrong every step of the way on each of these events - the basis of each article usually disproved within 48 hours. Honestly that is the only topic I care to hear you elaborate more on.

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PegLegg 2 years, 4 months ago

When you win 1 conference game in 2 seasons, you are no longer on the map.

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CommonDialog 2 years, 4 months ago

Here's the problem I have with this article. (And it pains me to say it) I'm not sure that our Orange Bowl win put us on the map, especially when all the talking heads said a school like Kansas couldn't possibly deserve to be in the Top 10 (if you can find video of Kirk Herbstreit on ESPN, you'll see what I mean.)

Kansas' one Orange Bowl bid was a flash in the pan and the next what...3 years got us off the national map.

So perhaps Mister Zenger should have said it puts us "BACK on the national map." Therefore, the hiring of a name like Weis was a very good thing.

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The_Real_Hawkman 2 years, 4 months ago

Well looking at Keegans stories on who our new coach was going to be I guess Leavitt is out

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FLJHK 2 years, 4 months ago

For what it's worth, Gruden is quoted in today's St. Pete Times endorsing Leavitt for the HC position at ASU.

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Jayhawk1958 2 years, 4 months ago

Let's have a fundraising drive to buy out Keegan.

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lawrenceboy3 2 years, 4 months ago

Weis for the national recognition and offense and Leavitt for the defense. It's a long shot, but one that I would love to see happen. Keep dreaming big Tommy Boy!

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sevenyearhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Coach Weis, with Coach Leavitt waiting in the wings ...

VERY intriguing.

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Robert Brock 2 years, 4 months ago

SZ may be right about the hire putting KU back on the map. Turner Gill took the program off the edge of the Earth. Worst KU defense I have seen - and I have watched the Hawks since the late 1950s. I am hoping that Weis can get KU on a good glide-path.

Keegan, you're fired!

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troutsee 2 years, 4 months ago

Hells-bells, guys. Let's rejoice in a quality hire and forget about bashing the writer of the article. This is about Weis, not Keegan. It seems that more than half of you guys are slamming Keegan. Maybe Keeg is off base and maybe he is not. Still, the fact remains that we do have a new head football coach with big time experience at two levels. Let's rejoice in that and welcome Mr. Weis and his family to Lawrence. Now let's get on with recruiting, weight training, spring practice, summer drills, and a much better organized approach to playing a football game than we have experienced over the last two years.

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Yolanda Gay 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan was right. Kansas was already on the map with our Orange Bowl season. We needed a coach that would bring back a winning tradition to our football team - not put Kansas on the map.

I don't know the guy but I continue to wonder why people so offended and hate Keegan's columns and comments continue to read them? Also, isn't he a columnist which means he writes his opinions?

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Steve Yeakel 2 years, 4 months ago

Weiss is a much better hire than Keegan, why did the LJW ever hire this guy, and why have they kept him? His stuff is negative and not worth reading. LJW, hello, we are KU fans here, we are the ones who buy your paper. Please get us a good hire for these spots.

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FSUJHAWK 2 years, 4 months ago

Animosity aside, I think TK is right in the sense that he points to a couple important facts: HCCW (1) did a terrible job at Florida and ND and (2) the new Defensive Coordinator will dictate much of HCCW's success at KU.

RCJHGKU!!!

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TwistedFish31 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan really coming off like a whiney b!tch in this one.

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Jim Jackson 2 years, 4 months ago

Guys, Keegan's role is to be the anatagonist. Why not? Let him do his thing, it gives us a different perspective. Although It is pretty clear Tom, you are pissed at SZ for talking to Joe Schad first.

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 4 months ago

I guess we don't stand a chance of getting the ND transfer QB, since Keegan predicted it...man Keegan quit jinxing us.

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NorthStarHawk 2 years, 4 months ago

"The other troubling thing about that quote...is that it smacks of an athletic director more concerned with winning the news conference than building a winner on the field."

Tom...let's see how this shoe fits.... "The other troubling thing with this article....is that it smacks of an Sports editor more concerned with filling white space than writing insightful, intelligent articles for its readership."

Your sour grapes are showing....as long as Weis is at KU, is this the level of journalism we should expect to see week in and week out during football season? Geesh, hit the buffet and calm down.

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Thomas Michaud 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan, you state: In Weis’ one season as offensive coordinator, the Gators ranked 72nd among 120 FBS schools with 25.6 points per game and 102nd with 334.2 yards per game.

Why not give a number for last year, before his hire ... and that It had been stale the year before? Why not talk about the OC and HC relationship at Florida -- apparently not the best. Was it Weis' fault alone that the offense started great but finished poorly in SEC play?

You start so many thoughts but seem to fail at developing it more fully I understand it's an opinion column, but give me a more thoguhtful opinion than my six-year old does with his dislike of squash.

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kusully 2 years, 4 months ago

My advice is that Keegan post blank columns moving forward but our cynical fan base would complain that he's still too opinionated. If Keegan had Crimson & Blue blood flowing through his veins, he would still render an opinion as that is what columnists are paid to do.
Congratulations to Zenger for keeping this so quiet that even our mighty fan base was not able to predict this hire.

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bville_hawk 2 years, 4 months ago

If not Leavitt for DC I wonder if Doeren would be interested? Yes, it would be a step down from head coach at N. Illinois, but he's only making $370k there and could come in with the idea that he would take over for Weis in 5 years or so? Would probably be dependent on if KU was his dream head coaching position.

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James Naismith 2 years, 4 months ago

Tom, I generally don't pile on when you get attacked for your stories or columns. But this is over the top.

"unspectacular as Matt Cassel of the Kansas City Chiefs."

You are referring to the QB that Charlie coached to the Pro Bowl, right?

Please get a grip and get back to being reasonable.

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Dyrk Dugan 2 years, 4 months ago

not my first choice (he wasn't on any of my lists) but Charlie Weis is our new football coach.

Our coaching and teaching pedigree just got raised up quite a bit. No doubt about it, Weis can coach....can TEACH the game. He's been everywhere on every level.....he even coached defense at South Carolina.

the main thing is...and we'll get a sense of it today at the press conference....is how he'll interact with the fans and the kind of rapport he'll build. He did not do it well at Notre Dame. He did not like the public interaction that you have to do as a big time college head coach. Now hopefully, SZ has convinced him that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated....otherwise you'll be asked to leave (unless of course, you're winning big and we have no recruiting violations...which didn't occur at all in South Bend).

He's truly a genius in QB development. He can guide the most talented (Quinn, Clausen) to the needs deveoped guy (Brady 3 SB rings, Matt Cassel). so now another key is: defense. We need a strong defensive coordinator who will basically run the show on that side of the ball, and CW can work with his OC and focus on offense. I think Leavitt would be just fine...what about Mike Stoops?

a few things about this hire: there will be more cursing in the locker room; twitter is probably fair game; and OUR COACH IS PHAT T-Shirts can re emerge. :)

Go Jayhawks and welcome Coach Weis!

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bcf8400 2 years, 4 months ago

In my opinion sour grapes on TK's part because SZ spoke to the national media before addressing the local media figures. Hey TK, get over it! I'd much rather be placed on the "national" map so we can recruit nationally than not. Oh yeah by the way, that national map that Mangino put us on? How did that help him recruit "nationally"? It didn't because we were a blip of a national story for a short time. SZ is attempting to change that. I give him props for this hire. I expect good things for our football program with a 4 time super bowl winner at the helm.

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Bellator 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan you sir are an unhappy little man.

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jhox 2 years, 4 months ago

This is a disappointing hire in my book. We went for name over substance. How can a guy who was mediocre with Notre Dames' considerable resources be successful at Kansas? Especially a guy who has a reputation for not liking to recruit?

If Levitt were to come in as D coordinator that will make me feel better about the hire.

Weiss can coach. I just don't believe he has the managerial and PR skills needed for this job. I believe this will end badly, but hope I'm wrong.

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seagull 2 years, 4 months ago

Tom, let me get this straight. Charlie Weis is not known to have treated his players badly, made very obnoxious, sexist comments to the press or to have a wife who publicly belittles people with lisps so he's not a good pick? I agree it's an odd one, but just because you didn't pick this one right or because he doesn't fit your mold is no reason to start abusing the guy from day one. If you are so smart, why don't you try to recruit players and win football games at KU. Sounds as if your readers are tiring of your song.

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Jaminrawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Mangino did put KU back on the map. Then he did it again in 2009 for the wrong reasons. Then Gill took them off the map. Then Gill put them back on the map as a laughingstock. The Weis hire is big news for better or worse. The national media is so eager to condemn him because it's easy to do. ND fell apart at the end of Weis's tenure so that automatically means he'll never be a good coach. Never mind that coaches like Bill Belechick, Pete Carroll, and Gene Chizik were coaches that failed at one job then won big at another. Weis's legacy will be largely determined by the staff he brings in and the way he works with the guys at KU right now. If he can whip this group into shape and add in some quality talent through recruiting and JUCOs, there's no reason KU can't go bowling again.

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Joseph Kuebel 2 years, 4 months ago

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Keith Richards 2 years, 4 months ago

I would hope Keegan's boss reads these articles. He is an embarassment to KU and journalism in general. Not only do you have butt hurt that you had absolutely no clue what was going on in the coaching search, you got front butt hurt that Zenger didn't call you first. Sour grapes.

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Danny Hernandez 2 years, 4 months ago

So, do you think Keegan reads these comments? IF so, Keegan, the above mentioned article smacks of jealousy because Weiss was a name you didn't mention earlier....You pushed Leach(loser in my books) and Fedora, (one game & he's a hero).

I'm glad neither was selected or elected to turn down the job if it had been offered. IF IT had been offered. Right now, no one knows who was tendered an offer other than Weiss. And I'm glad Zenger kept his mouth shut during this hiring process. As they say, a fish wouldn't get caught if it didn't open its' mouth!

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kushaw 2 years, 4 months ago

You have to admit though.......................It is a pretty clever title based on his entire article.

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agraves 2 years, 4 months ago

Hard to believe this guy and Matt Tait work for the same LJW. Things that make you go hmmmmm!

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gwenthejayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Out of all the names Keegan threw out there from his "sources", never once was Weiss even mentioned. Learning - Keegan has no sources; and now this article sounds like sour grapes that he wasn't able to beat our AD to the punch. How long will we be made to suffer through Keegan's "journalism"? Or maybe it is the "front butt" jealousy.

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Kevin Kelly 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan's just mad someone in town now has a better front-butt than he does.

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blahblahblah 2 years, 4 months ago

I am a little surprised by Keeg's animosity for this hire. It seems the only logical explanation is some stiff competition at the buffet line. Maybe that also explains the Mangino incident. I'll bet all of my belongings on it. You can count on it. Heard it here first folks.

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Kevin Kelly 2 years, 4 months ago

I thought every Keegan article came with one free quote from a 'legendary' pitching coach I've never heard of.

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Kevin Kelly 2 years, 4 months ago

Hey where's the baseball reference?

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Jayhawk_4_Life 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan, you have to be one of the worst journalists in the country

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amatxjayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

It is hard to understand why I read anything this moron writes. Must be somewhere between self delusion and morbid curiosity. One time I say to myself, "Surely he can't find a way to piss me off today of all days." Another time it's, "What could he possible say that'd be dumber than yesterday?" He continues to amaze on both counts.

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sad_lawrencian 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan needs to retire and leave the sports reporting/blogging to the big boys. Shows absolutely NO class in bashing our new AD and head coach. Shame on you, Keegan.

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kusportsdotcom 2 years, 4 months ago

"The other troubling thing about that quote — and the first quote generally is the most honest one because it hasn’t been rehearsed — is that it smacks of an athletic director more concerned with winning the news conference than building a winner on the field."

Way to bash a first-year AD who made a home run hire right off the bat. No one needs to ask Zenger why he hired Weis. If anything, I'd be asking Weis why he chose KU over any of the other openings out there.

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Frankenhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

Keegan. Your pathetic attempt to rain on our parade with shoddy writing is not going to do it, sorry. Why don't you go cry with Ketizman on his radio program, maybe that will make you feel better.

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kusportsdotcom 2 years, 4 months ago

"Leavitt shows he’s not that guy by behaving at Kansas and then takes over when Weis retires?" There we go again, Keegan throwing out predictions left and right so that one day he'll actually be correct somewhere.

As far as the question for Zenger, "why Weis?"...what else is there to understand? Keegan seems to want to find some crazy answer, but it's pretty simple- Weis was the best candidate for the job, according to Zenger. No viable candidates had a more impressive resume than Weis. So, why Weis? Please Keegan, give us a conspiracy theory.

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COjayrocks 2 years, 4 months ago

I think its irresponsible and trite on your part that after that 10-day, thorough search in which very, very little was leaked that "on the national map" was the only thing you had to pull from Zenger's HC search and subsequent hire. Not sure what it is, but over the past couple of years you are trying SO hard to seem objective to your readers and peers in your coverage KU that it comes across as if you go out of your way to be derogatory. Just so you know, it is possible to write a column that appeases your journalistic colleagues AND puts a positive spin on KU....they are not mutually exclusive.

The fact that you claim this hire can be validated by hiring Leavitt as the DC proves my above point. It obviously would be a great hire, but is that really the only way this hire can proven acceptable to you? Suddenly Weis hires Leavitt and suddenly Zenger's a genius? Cmon. I promise that if your work for LJW is good you will move on to bigger and better things, even if you throw in an occassional column that includes the words "success", "positive", and "support".

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manginorh00lz 2 years, 4 months ago

Only Gruden would have been more exciting for me. Hiring Weis is a homerun in my book.

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LAJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

RE: Leavitt

I really want to believe this as a possibility. I think that would be a powerful combination. However, I really cannot take Keegan's word with much weight. He has jumped from random guess to pure speculation day after day. I wish I thought he had some inside track; unfortunately, I do not. Yesterday, this was his quote:

"If I had to stake every possession of value I had — my house, my clutch putting stroke, my good looks — on being right, I would make that guess Doeren."

And that's just one of many, many examples.

Now before anyone calls me a "Keegan basher," I'm not trying to dog on him. He is free to write his thoughts, whether or not he has anything backing them up. What I'm saying is that I don't take what he says any more seriously than any single commenter on these boards. In fact, there are a number of commenters that seem significantly more plugged in.

So when he makes these kind of statements about Leavitt, I simply don't take it seriously. I have no reason to think it's a possibility, because his off the wall guesses/assumptions/ideas are almost always wrong.

I do hope this one will be correct, but I won't hold my breath.

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jayhawkinmullen 2 years, 4 months ago

Zenger says, "“This puts Kansas on the national map,” Zenger told ESPN.com’s Joe Schad, choosing to speak first to the national media."

Keegan says, "Excuse me, but didn’t Mark Mangino and his staff already do that by coaching up a group of largely two-star recruits so well that the Jayhawks were ranked No. 2 in the nation with an 11-0 record before losing to Missouri and then going on to win the Orange Bowl? That team finished 12-1, ranked No. 7 and very much on the national map."

Jayhawkinmullen says, "Zenger did not hire or fire Mark Mangino, so what in the Sam hell are you talking about".

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kusportsdotcom 2 years, 4 months ago

I sense a lot of bitterness from Keegan that he didn't predict this hire.

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jayhawkintx1973 2 years, 4 months ago

Possibility of a long term stability created if Leavitt comes to Kansas with Weis.

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