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Monday, December 5, 2011

Keegan

If biggest coaching names choose other schools, Phillip Fulmer could fit at KU

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Tracking the Kansas University coaching search recalls the conference realignment musical-chairs game, replete with wild swings from optimism to pessimism and right back to optimism.

It’s so fluid because it involves so many different parts, competing interests, emotion-driven changes in the market.

Mike Leach, a different case because he has lawsuits against Texas Tech and ESPN, did not cause the dominoes to tumble.

The next biggest names on the radar of coach-seekers — Larry Fedora, Charlie Strong and Kevin Sumlin — could trigger a rapid succession of hirings.

The worst-case scenario from a public-relations standpoint for Kansas: Bubba Cunningham, KU’s first choice for athletic director, entices Fedora to come to North Carolina to work for him. Cunningham is extremely familiar with Fedora’s work because they both were in Conference USA. Despite having worked as a high school coach in Texas and at as an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State and a position coach at Baylor, most of Fedora’s Southern Miss players were recruited from the deep South, including 11 from Florida on this year’s roster. Fedora worked as Florida’s offensive coordinator (2002-2004).

If it plays out that way, it doesn’t mean Cunningham’s a better recruiter than Zenger. It means Fedora feels he has a better chance of winning conference championships at North Carolina than at KU.

If Texas A&M wanted Kevin Sumlin before the lopsided loss to Southern Miss in the Conference USA championship game, why let one game change your thinking? Then again, A&M has been known to make emotion-charged moves.

Strong coached in the SEC as Florida’s defensive coordinator, leading some to believe that makes him a better fit than Sumlin. Yet, Sumlin has recruited the east Texas area so well through the years.

At this moment, we’re pretty much guessing, so guess we’ll do at a few schools could fill their coaching vacancies.

North Carolina: Fedora.

Texas A&M: Sumlin.

Illinois: Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst.

UCLA, Arizona State? Let’s see if the first three dominoes fall. Kansas? Zenger’s cone of silence works much better than Maxwell Smart’s did. Those in the industry believe Zenger hasn’t yet turned to assistant coaches and won’t until his list of candidates with head-coaching experience has been exhausted.

Phillip Fulmer, 61, was interviewed by Kansas two years ago, but didn’t get an offer, despite making a hugely positive impression on some in the room. The guy has a personality that would market the program. Of all the coaches who appeared in Blind Side, he popped through the screen as the guy for whom I would want to play if I were 30-something years younger, eight inches taller, far more coordinated, faster and if my weight were distributed differently.

When a man who has won a national championship at Tennessee is interviewed for a less prestigious job and doesn’t get it, it would be asking a lot to expect him to interview again. If he’s not gung-ho to become the next Kansas coach, he’s not the man. If he is, Zenger might want to invite him into his cone of silence.

Comments

johnnyhrdwd 3 years ago

He did recruit and coach Peyton Manning.

KevDVol 3 years ago

Yes. And, we fired him just one year after we played in the 2007 SEC Championship game. While head coach at Tennessee, Phat Phil never had a 3 year stretch where his team failed to either win 10 games, play in the SEC championship game or both. Tennessee was one of the winningest programs of the '90's but Fulmer could not maintain that high level in the 2000's.

Fulmer was fired by an AD (Hamilton) who later resigned in disgrace after making a mess of the sports program, by letting Kiffin and Pearl run themselves and firing another successful coach (Delmonico - Baseball) and allowing baseball to crash & burn.

Fulmer never had any serious problems with the NCAA. He got Bama busted for buying players in Memphis. Spurrier was also involved in getting Bama too but Fulmer was the only one willing to step up and say "yes, I told the NCAA and I'd do it again. Don't do that crap in my back yard."

Fulmer won in SEC. Not some other chump conference. You'd be lucky to have him. I know Tennessee was.

thunderhawk357 3 years ago

Are you a real sports journalist? Fulmer? Why don't we just have Valasente come back? How about Woody Widenhofer? What the hell - Pat Ruel, Fulmer? I realize it's not a prize job, but it's a BCS job with good facilities an adequate stadium in a great setting (get rid of the track) and what appears to be a solid AD. Thankfully, you have zero input in this decision

droppinplates 3 years ago

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actorman 3 years ago

Are you honestly equating Phil Fulmer and Bob Valesente?????????? You're saying that a guy who's won about 75% of his games and a national championship is the same as the one guy in KU history who might actually make Turner Gill look like a good coach????????????

Are you out of your freaking mind?!?!?

thunderhawk357 3 years ago

Not equating the two, - being sarcastic - but equating that we don't need a has been, retread, a-hole that NO ONE has given a sniff to and now he's the best thing going? He won an NC in a water-downed SEC - different time than the landscape today. We are who we are, but you're dreaming thinking this guy is going to come in here and being able to recruit 1) Texas 2) the current landscape.

johnnyphoton 3 years ago

Ditto, ditch the track for a D1 look.

NebraskaJayhawk 3 years ago

Thankfully you don't, because Fulmer will be KU's next football coach and what a great decision it will be. This guy is a winner through and through and considered one of the top recruiters in football for over a decade. He's only been out of the game for 4 years and he's hungry to take our program and turn it into a winner. We don't have to guess how he will coach in a major football conference like we would have to do with Fedora or Sumlin. Neither one has been a head coach in a major football conference. Fedora was a DC in the SEC, but that doesn't constitute being a head coach. With Fulmer, you get experience and instant respect from the rest of college football. Everyone knows who he is and what he has done. Parents won't mind sending their kid to Kansas to play for a man like this, trust me. Plus, he may not even need 2 million a year right away. If Z's smart, he could work that into his contract depending on performance.

Hire him now, Z. There's no need to wait.

thunderhawk357 3 years ago

He's been out the game 4 years, b/c no one wants him, he doesn't know Texas. He made his record when the SEC was down - the landscape has changed significantly since 10 years or so ago. Might as well hired Tuberville if you want to go this route. We should want more for this program, even if it's not the best job right now.

NebraskaJayhawk 3 years ago

He went 10-4 / 6-2 in 2007. The SEC was not down in 2007, nor was it a decade ago. Bad arguement. The guy can flat out win.

Dyrk Dugan 3 years ago

Phil Fulmer....one word.....no.

danno1313 3 years ago

Fulmer has one more championship than KU has. Just saying.

johnnyhrdwd 3 years ago

He would definitely bring stability and he has the ability to hire a real staff.

KU_cynic 3 years ago

It must be killing Keegan to have to shred his columns on KU getting a marquee coach (like Leach), pour some skim milk over them, and eat his words -- just like he had to shred his columns of two years ago when he said KU could get Jim Harbaugh to take the KU job. That was unbelievable.

Welcome back to planet earth, Tom. Just try your best to fake your enthusiasm when KU finally does announce the new coach . . . perhaps you can claim you "knew it all along", just as you did when Turner Gill was hired.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

Was Keeg's the one who broke the Bubba 2 KU hiring?

johnnyhrdwd 3 years ago

I don't know who you guys feel is interested in this job, but most are complete bums. Fedora or Sumlin would rather take the raise and stay at the school they're at than come to KU. We have to choose between a long shot up and comer, or a has been who was forced out of their job. We're not gonna get the same level of coach A&M will attract.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

I was wondering about getting Sherman actually. He was forced out, but seemed that he was building well for the Agg's.

vd 3 years ago

In August KU was picked to go 1 - 10 and finish last in the conference. ATM was picked to end in the top of the conference. We fire the coach that had his team live up to its expectations and hire the coach whose team ended way below expectations. Makes complete sense.

ajmag 3 years ago

As awesome as it would be there is no way the Sherman comes here. The dude coached at A&M and in Green Bay. Coming here would be like trading in a BMW to drive a Ford Taurus: it would be smoother but wouldn't get you laid.

phi4life940 3 years ago

Negative. We'll get a no name coach....Fedora and Sumlin are going elsewhere or they are gonna stay put. Venables is staying in OU or waiting for Snyder to quit at KSU.

droppinplates 3 years ago

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tical523 3 years ago

dude it's a fan blog. sometimes heart wins over head....calm down

actorman 3 years ago

Droppinplates, you're thinking too small. If these guys as good at fortune-telling as they seem to be, I want to know the lotto numbers.

DrGraydog 3 years ago

KU could do much worse than Fulmer....Im on board if he is the guy

DrGraydog 3 years ago

KU could do much worse than Fulmer....Im on board if he is the guy

DDDHawk 3 years ago

Geez- I hope to heck any coach who is willing to consider our school doesn't read this thread! They will think we have the nastiest, negative, fans.

Michael Pannacciulli 3 years ago

Or just passionate fans who are fed up with being mediocre on a good year and accustom to being cellar dwellers.

danmoore 3 years ago

Fedora does have a better chance of winning a conference title at UNC. ACC is much easier than Big 12.

annette38 3 years ago

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Joe Templeton 3 years ago

Why not go after Mike Sherman? Obviously he has ties to Tx and he is a hell of a coach IMO and he got a raw deal at A&M

JHawk74 3 years ago

Mike Sherman is going back to the NFL. Possibly to Jacksonville.

Martin Rosenblum 3 years ago

Hey, how old is Pepper Rodgers? He can't be as old as that old guy down I-70. Maybe he is what we need now! As long as we're throwing around older "has beens", why not throw his name out there too?

Charlotte_Jhawk 3 years ago

I saw something on ESPN that Mike Martz might be interested in UCLA or ASU. He's not a good fit for KU, but he puts entertaining teams on the field......

Tom Gillaspie 3 years ago

So, let's hear why Fulmer is such a bad choice. I absolutely can't stand Keegan, but Fulmer is a proven entity and we have little or no hope of getting a coach who is a hot commodity right now. Why would any of them choose Kansas, unless the lure of a big payout after failing miserably is what they are looking for in a coaching job.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

Tom - I think the thought is that Fulmer is past his prime. Obviously, there are plenty of coaches that have succeeded well past Fulmer's age, but that doesn't mean that he will as well. It might have to do with the trend/sentiment at Tenn, or maybe with the Cup that is named after him.

Alex Berger 3 years ago

Why are so many people against Phil Fulmer? He was the head coach at Tennessee for 17 years, had a .750 winning percentage (in the SEC), with 2 SEC championships and a national championship. He only had two losing seasons (both with five wins) against 9 seasons with 10+ wins and his teams were always competitive. KU needs a proven winner with experience in leading a big time team.

Andy Tweedy 3 years ago

Every single person on this board knows more than Zenger! Haven't you figured that out yet? GOSH!!!

actorman 3 years ago

It's not just that, rockchalk; every single person on this board knows exactly what Zenger is doing at every minute! It's amazing how omniscient the people on this board are!

gbails 3 years ago

Why as no one mentioned Bill Young???

vd 3 years ago

If not for his crappy defense, the Cowboys would be in the NC game.

KGphoto 3 years ago

Funny you mention that. I had forgotten he was coaching for the Cowboys and mentioned to my wife during the OU game that the defense OSU was playing looked so much like the 2005-2007 defenses at KU. They were blowing up screen passes and getting in the backfield.

He still coaches the same way. I'd definitely still take him as our DC.

pepper_bar 3 years ago

Good column. Uncertainty reigns supreme right now.

billhawk 3 years ago

I assume you meant to say you hate the column and Keegan is fat. Only hate is allowed after Keegan's columns.

jhox 3 years ago

Fulmer wasn't having much luck at Tennessee his last few years there, how would he be successful at Kansas? He would be a horrible choice. Time to get a clue, Keegan. We need a young, energetic guy who has a name in Texas recruiting circles.

As for competing with NC for a head coach, does anyone remember how protective Roy Williams was of "King basketball" at KU? He didn't want the competition. You can bet he feels the same way in Chapel Hill. Bill Self, on the other hand, seems to genuinely want the football program at KU to be successful. He understands the economics of the situation. Anyone who chooses NC over KU in this football raffle would be crazy, and would not have done their homework. Besides, at KU they would be working for a football guy in Zenger.

jhox 3 years ago

Fulmer wasn't having much luck at Tennessee his last few years there, how would he be successful at Kansas? He would be a horrible choice. Time to get a clue, Keegan. We need a young, energetic guy who has a name in Texas recruiting circles.

As for competing with NC for a head coach, does anyone remember how protective Roy Williams was of "King basketball" at KU? He didn't want the competition. You can bet he feels the same way in Chapel Hill. Bill Self, on the other hand, seems to genuinely want the football program at KU to be successful. He understands the economics of the situation. Anyone who chooses NC over KU in this football raffle would be crazy, and would not have done their homework. Besides, at KU they would be working for a football guy in Zenger.

vd 3 years ago

You can say that again.................and again..............and again.

ajmag 3 years ago

Better football=more money=higher budget=cooler basketball stuff=hotter cheerleaders. Dont know how the last one fits in, but I'm down.

jhox 3 years ago

Fulmer wasn't having much luck at Tennessee his last few years there, how would he be successful at Kansas? He would be a horrible choice. Time to get a clue, Keegan. We need a young, energetic guy who has a name in Texas recruiting circles.

As for competing with NC for a head coach, does anyone remember how protective Roy Williams was of "King basketball" at KU? He didn't want the competition. You can bet he feels the same way in Chapel Hill. Bill Self, on the other hand, seems to genuinely want the football program at KU to be successful. He understands the economics of the situation. Anyone who chooses NC over KU in this football raffle would be crazy, and would not have done their homework. Besides, at KU they would be working for a football guy in Zenger.

Alex Berger 3 years ago

He went 10-4 his 2nd to last season at Tennessee. He went 5-7 and UT (Knoxville) got rid of him because they thought they deserved to be at the top every year.

Jeff Worthington 3 years ago

Young: Turner Gill, Energetic: Turner Gill, Guy: Turner Gill, Texas recruiting: Turner Gill

Well since that didn't work out real well, I think we need the opposite. That would be an Old, Lazy, Female, Who can recruit Canada. I'm gonna go with Celine Dion. But I don't think she's all that lazy or old. How about Celine Dion's mom? HIRED

Michael Bowden 3 years ago

Get real, his track record is middle of road at best and while im not saying ku is better than that if we have to resort to a mediocre coach get one that is younger, then agin this is just a keegan article everything thrown together three fourths of this isn't even about fulmer

Alex Berger 3 years ago

Go check out his "track record." Not exactly middle of the road.

danno1313 3 years ago

A national title is middle of the road? Slightly better that T Gill I d say.

droppinplates 3 years ago

Middle of the road? He's miles above any coach this university has ever thought about having.

texashawk10 3 years ago

If he could make KU a middle of the road program during his time here (not sure that would be more than 6-8 years), KU would be in a good position going forward from there.

Steve Williams 3 years ago

Did Keegan really base his selection on which coach stood out to him most in a crappy feel good football movie made for soccer moms...smh

oregonjhawk 3 years ago

I'd go with Fulmer as head coach. An amazing recruiter, plus Kansas ties having coached at WSU. I think Tennessee would have been better off keeping Fulmer after the Kiffin fiasco and their mediocrity since..

DXJhawk 3 years ago

Yes, winning a national championship is very middle of the road. Some of the comments on here are just amazing.

droppinplates 3 years ago

Agree. Most people posting on here are abolutely ignorant.

Randy Bombardier 3 years ago

Most people posting on here are Mizzu bums or EPAWs, at least the ones who tear down KU, tell us to be realistic and then take shots at people they hope we never get.

michael anway 3 years ago

Hey! We had a young guy who was suppose to recruit and relate to young players. Look where that got us. Fulmer is better than most on these lists and let me think what else. OH, He won a National Championship! But I'm sure KU with it's highly regarded football program can easily get someone better. Let's see. We fired a coach who won a BCS Bowl game and the next guy we gave a whole two years to turn things around. I'm sure all your hot prospects are lined up outside Zenger's door to come on board. Face it folks. We'd be lucky to get someone like Fulmer.

Vernon Riggs 3 years ago

There are still more coaches than chairs in this game of Musical Chairs. When the music stops there will Fedora, Malzhan, Stoops or Dykes in the Kansas Chair. Any one of those four will be great choices.

Randy Bombardier 3 years ago

I'm with you. And the shame of it because of ignorant twenty-somethings who have paid attention to all of 6 years of college football would have a hissy fit if their school would hire some old codger. Who the hell is Jimmy Johnson anyway? I'll say it again. What we need is General George Patton (another old foggie) with a clipboard.

bjejayhawk69 3 years ago

I would take Fulmer if Manning retires and comes on as OC !

Michael Pannacciulli 3 years ago

That would be worthwhile but would filmed ever really consider coming back for an interview even if he was passed over before...

gardenjay 3 years ago

KU has no money after Perkins, Gill, Mangino, the ticket scandal, suing Joe College, and obviously paying whoever makes awful decisions.

You're writing articles about a very weak position or a KU ready to go into strato-debt on the backs of students who will stop attending KU, so stop overselling.

middleoftheroader 3 years ago

Dude, seriously, lay off the late night coffee man.

gardenjay 3 years ago

Late night? No, it's early here in Shanghai.

actorman 3 years ago

Huh??? I mean seriously, huh??? WTF are you talking about?

gardenjay 3 years ago

Strato-debt - it's what happens when the ignorant lead the blind, but it sounds like you knew that already.

mikehawk 3 years ago

This is one very sad situation. Reminds of playing spin the bottle as a kid. Why don't we just throw a rock up in the air and see if it hits anyone, and what do you know, we have a new coach! As I have said all along, it will be either an "up and coming no name," an individual with a tarnished reputation (that would probably have been Leach), or a retread (that would be a Fulmer). OU has had to do the latter in basketball. Their program is a mess and they brought in Lon Kruger at top dollar, knowing he isn't going to win national championships. But, he brings maturity, integrity, a record that demands respect, know how in building a program, and solid coaching skills. If we go retread it would need to be someone who still has fire in his belly to go at least 5 years, which is what it will take with the "wave a magic wand donor/fan base" who thinks the right coach means immediate wins. If Matt keeps talking "the case for Chris Petersen" someone needs to get the coffee cup out of his hands, because there is more in there than just coffee.

actorman 3 years ago

"Their program is a mess and they brought in Lon Kruger at top dollar, knowing he isn't going to win national championships."

Are you saying he won't win more than one? If that's not what you mean, why are you so sure that he can't win a championship? He has a pretty darn good record, and with OU's resources it wouldn't shock me if some day he won at all.

jay381 3 years ago

Two halves to Fulmer's career 1992-98 ' 99-2008 W-L 67-11 83-40 Win pct. . 859 .675 Sec w- l 4 3-7 51-27 sec win pct. 860 .654 SEC champ. game 2-0 0-3 Bowl W-L 5-2 3-5 vs. Top 25 23-9 20-28

Sorry about the columns I guess you cannot paste a spreadsheet into the comment box.

I lived in Memphis when this guy was terminated. He had completely split the alumni base. Granted early in his career he had been successful. However, the last few years, given the facilities, support, resources, tradition etc. of TN his last few years were a total failure. A lot of knowledgeable fans gave a tremendous amount of the credit to his OC David Clutcliffe. His downfall came after Clutcliffe took over the Old Miss job and the offense went to heck. Clutcliffe did come back and restore an offense for a couple of years and then took the Duke (?) HC job. If I remember correctly Cutcliffe also had a heart attack before leaving for Old Miss.

It is not as much his age as seeing first hand how he let the program go downhill in the last few years at a program with multiple times the resources of KU in football that would make he think no.

jhawkrulz 3 years ago

So he had a winning percentage of .675, went .654 in SEC play, went to 3 SEC championship games, went 8 bowl games in 9 years, was a little worse than .500 against top 25 teams.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but the last two years we are 1 - 16 in conference. We are .500 against Div II teams, we only have beat 2 conference foes in the past 3 years. We haven't been to a championship game...are we supposed to be sad about that kind of performance, when he was "going downhill"?

Your numbers actually support the hire for KU!

salmo38 3 years ago

You have me convinced after posting those stats. Looking at how bad Tennessee was during Fulmers worst years I can why Kansas would not want him. The Jayhawks have a much better record than that.

Hmmm 0 and 3 in SEC Title games in nine years. I wonder how many SEC schools DID NOT PLAY in an SEC Title game during those years? What has KU's record been in conference championship games since 1999, or forever for that matter.

Michael Bowden 3 years ago

He did win a championship with Manning aside from that he was middle of the road his overal record is about.500. He was at Tennesse how long I do believe he even retired on his own accord and pretty much stated he couldn't get recruits like he used to so what are you guys smoking thinking we can get Leach and Fedora we will get the lucky if we get a good oc/ or dc we wont be getting a current head coach what with all you people talking about kansas ties and all how come our team is terrible with all these kansas ties and all. Fans like some of you who think we are to high and mighty to let a coach even attempt to coach are rediculous

Mike Ardis 3 years ago

Fulmer was 112-43 without Manning and he won the NC the year after Manning left. Hardly a record around .500.

texashawk10 3 years ago

Do yourself and everyone here a favor and go get your GED.

refugee 3 years ago

Tee Martin was at QB when he won a Nat'l Championship. A totally different offensive scheme than when Manning was there just a year earlier. That's coaching...

Randy Bombardier 3 years ago

Fulmer 152-52 as a head coach, a winning percentage of .745. Only two losing seasons in 17 years. In each of those two losing seasons he still had five wins.

1 National Championship (1998) 2 SEC Championships (1997, 1998) 6 SEC Eastern Division Titles (1997, 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007) Awards AFCA Coach of the Year (1998) Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year (1998) George Munger Award (1998) Home Depot Coach of the Year Award (1998) Sporting News College Football COY (1998) SEC Coach of the Year (1998)

Wow. His resume is even better than I thought. This would be a really good hire, folks. Wow.

jhawkrulz 3 years ago

I agee...I love how people post that he was .654 in SEC "going downhill", I'm not sure if they are helping their cause with those kind of numbers.

crimsonwithblue22 3 years ago

"If biggest coaching names choose other schools, Phillip Fulmer could fit at KU"

Perhaps Mr. Keegan meant "hottest" coaching names.

150-51 overall record at Tennessee (playing in the SEC).....won a national championship in 1998

How many national championships have the "biggest coaching names" won? How many big games have the "biggest coaching names" coached in ......how many games have they coached in a BCS conference? What's their overall winning percentage?

I'm just guessing that Coach Fulmer probably considers himself a pretty big coaching name........I'm just guessing that prior to this year, this month, the last couple of weeks......the majority of posters on this site knew NOTHING about Larry Fedora, Charlie Strong, Paul Chryst. However, almost every true college football fan knows the name Phillip Fulmer.

Poor and somewhat disrespectful headline. You can argue on his age, his time away from the game, whether or not he'd be the right fit for KU........but he's achieved a hell of a lot more than any of the candidates you mention and he IS most certainly a "big name" in college football.

TheShot122293 3 years ago

I am scratching my head at those writing off Fulmer. I was never a fan of his, of Tennessee, or of the SEC, but I would never write off having a winning record in that conference. I would not write off what he did with Manning, nor would I write off what he did without Manning. How many Big 12 championships did Leach, who so many were salivating over, have? How many SEC championships did Fulmer have? And he's somehow past his prime? Says who? On what basis? Is Bill Self past his prime if he doesn't win the conference championship this year?

Are we too good for a former SEC championship coach? For a former national championship coach? Does the sun revolve around the earth? What is going on here?

flyingfinn 3 years ago

Forget about age, Bill Snyder is 11 years older and has proven he still can coach winners. Fulmer is a proven coach and is certainly better than some of the names Tait is speculating on.

mcrckchlk 3 years ago

Phil Fulmer should be starting his third season as the KU football coach.

Coach-Matt Koelling 3 years ago

I've never been a fan of Fulmer, so obviously I'm biased. But I just think the game has passed him by. Kids these days are way different than kids in the 90's and the game has changed since then. What has he been doing since Tennessee? If he's been available, why hasn't somebody hired him?

Gregor Southard 3 years ago

I live in Nashville, I can't stand UT (Knoxville) but Fulmer would be a great hire. He would bring stabilty and competence. He's an established winner and why we couldn't bring in an "heir apparent" as well to coach and study under him?

nuleafjhawk 3 years ago

If the Head Cheerleader won't go to prom with us, maybe we can go down to the homeless shelter and find a nice date with most of her teeth.

That's what this title says to me.

Martin Rosenblum 3 years ago

I hope you're not revealing something from your past nuleaf. If so, that's a really sad story.

nuleafjhawk 3 years ago

aww come on memhawk - that's not nice.

I found one with ALL of her teeth.

Larry Ewart 3 years ago

This hire is about having a HC with a lot of visibility who can hire an outstanding coaching staff who can recruit. Phillip F. brings that to the table. Remember this football program is so low it has to look up to see bottom. If he can bring us back to even 6 wins or 7 a year I am in big time. I was here during the years of Valesente and this past season was a mirror image. Pitiful! Zenger will bring someone with a strong FB background. Fulmer knows where mistakes are made when heading up a program he would get us turned around to respectability.

gorilla10 3 years ago

If a legendary coach such as Fulmer is INTERESTED in the Kansas job....You better take a look at him and seriously consider him. He's won a Championship and had some great seasons at KU. I'm not sure KU is the school to test another coach out at.....I would rather bring in experience to at least get us back on our feet!

Fulmer is what 61? That means he could get us back on our feet in a year or two and really get going after that! 7-8 years of competitive football with Fulmer is fine with me!!!

irvan moore 3 years ago

i wonder, probably not but maybe it's possible zenger is making a deal with an x college NFL coach and going to impress the heck out of us.

JoeVol 3 years ago

From someone who has followed Phil Fulmer's Tennessee career, he is a terrific recruiter...he had to be to win big at Tennessee. His strength is his recruiting...more so than X and Os. Parents and kids alike love his "living room" manner. Part of his recruiting success early resulted from bad coaches at Georgia and Florida plus Ole Miss's probation which allowed the recruitment of Peyton Manning (otherwise his father would have placed Peyton at Ole Miss as he did with Eli). Fulmer's demise came when the coaching situations at Georgia (Richt) and Florida (Meyer) improved, and when his offensive coordinator, David Cutcliffe, left to become head coach at Ole Miss. By the way, his defensive co-ordinator was John Chavis, currently defensive co-ordinator at LSU. Phil made two bad hires: promoting an untested assistant, Randy Sanders (now at Kentucky), to offensive co-ordinator, and several years later upon hiring Richmond's head coach as offensive co-ordinator. Fulmer is loyal to his staff to a fault. Measuring the good versus the bad...the potential benefit to Kansas is great. Particularly, if he is "hungry," will hustle, and if he really wants to coach again. Fulmer is a wealthy man. To my knowledge he is still being paid over a million a year at Tennessee. Would Fulmer be better than what we at Tennessee have now? Sadly, probably yes. Did I think his time had passed at Tennessee? Yes, again. Unfortunately, we can't counter your offer. "Fire in the belly" would be a good judgement to make on your part. Good luck on your search.

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