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Saturday, December 3, 2011

Keegan

Don’t scoff at Larry Fedora

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Southern Miss coach Larry Fedora.

None of us gets to sit down with the candidates interested in the Kansas University football job, yet that doesn’t keep us from having strong reactions to hires.

When it comes to sports, many of us think with our hearts. It’s KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger’s job to think with his head and his gut when pulling the trigger on the most important decision of his professional life.

Taking the pulse of those who want to see Zenger make a great hire leads to interesting revelations. The most consistent, most baffling tendency of many is to get far more excited about a defensive/offensive coordinator/guru from a big-name school than a former defensive/offensive coordinator/guru from a big-name school who has gone on to do impressive things at a lesser football school.

Consider two names: Northern Illinois head coach Dave Doeren and Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst. The typical reaction is one of disappointment at the mention of Doeren because he’s at a small school. Yet, most are intrigued by Chryst’s name and want to hear more. Chryst is one of the hot coordinator/guru names on the national radar. Never mind that Doeren was a hot defensive coordinator/guru at the same school a year ago. Since then, Doeren has gone 10-3 as a head coach, which ought to improve his stock, but in the court of perception does not.

Larry Fedora, a more proven head coach than Doeren, also appears to suffer from a syndrome that henceforth shall be known as DSBK, which stands for Directional School Buzz Kill. Fedora coaches at Southern Mississippi.

If not for the highly contagious DSBK, Fedora has the sort of résumé that would make him a popular choice for Kansas. He once was an offensive guru at Oklahoma State. SEC giants LSU and Alabama tried to steal him, but he decided to stay put, earning nearly $400,000 and waiting for the right head-coaching job to come along. A former high school coach in Garland, Texas, Fedora was the OC at Florida before moving to Stillwater.

In his fourth year at Southern Miss, Fedora has a 10-2 record and will go to a bowl game for the fourth consecutive season. His offense is ranked 14th in the nation. A year ago, his defense knocked Kansas silly in a 31-16 beating witnessed by a ESPN audience and 30,211 spectators at M.M. Roberts Stadium in Hattiesburg, Miss.

Teams run by pass-happy gurus aren’t supposed to hit hard, but the attacking Golden Eagles defense certainly did that night.

Ole Miss, thought to be in competition for landing Fedora, is closing in on hiring Arkansas State coach Hugh Freeze, who was depicted in the movie “The Blind Side,” which centered on a player he coached in high school, Michael Oher of the Baltimore Ravens.

Fedora is from College Station, but Texas A&M appears more interested in hiring Houston’s Kevin Sumlin.

Interestingly, Southern Miss plays at 11 a.m. today at Houston on ABC.

Win or lose, Fedora remains an attractive option.

The Jayhawks never did land the coach with the fedora (Earl Bruce) but just might get the Fedora with the visor.

Comments

texashawk10 2 years, 10 months ago

If KU had not beaten Doeren and NIU this season, I don't think there would be quite the backlash against his name being linked to the KU job. In a different offseason he would be a good fit for KU, but considering one of Turner Gill's 5 wins is over NIU, Doeren's name is immediately tarnished despite his very impressive resume overall.

blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Absolutely irrelevant. KU fans need to be smarter than this.

NorthStarHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Doeren's UNI team just won the MAC championship last night.....coming back from being down 20-0 at halftime to win in regulation, 23-20. He won out over Frank Solich's Ohio squad. Fun game to watch.

FarneyMac 2 years, 10 months ago

Doeren doesn't coach at Northern Iowa, and Northern Iowa didn't play Ohio last night.

Robert Brock 2 years, 10 months ago

"UNI" was on the University of Northern Illinois players' helmets, if you didn't notice.

pepper_bar 2 years, 10 months ago

Brock, NIU's helmets had their standard NIU logo on them last night. See pics at the link below.

http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/niu-m-footbl-body.html

NorthStarHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

You're absolutely right on both accounts...keep up the good work!

Jayhawk1116 2 years, 10 months ago

One successful season just isn't enough history. Gill pretty much had one successful season at Buffalo and look where that got us. I would prefer a coach who has a history of turning programs around.

90sHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

A history of turning around programs? Hmmm... so you want a job hopper, huh? Just another shortsighted comment from the thousands i've seen in the last week. KU fans need to be realistic and smart about this. We'd be luckly to have a guy like Fedora, Doeren, Sumlin and the likes. I remember our recent AD search, and Bubba Cunningham was a candidate; so many idiotic comments and mostly about hiring a guy nicknamed Bubba and how pathetic we are if we hired him. Well, North Carolina seemed to think he was good enough to be their AD and they have better overall athletics in the big 3 sports than KU does. Shortsighted, ignorant comments abound.

90sHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Listen moron. Try reading again, and SLOWLY. Then maybe you'll get it in your pea brain

treed14ku 2 years, 10 months ago

The instant I saw this headline, I knew it was a Keegan story. He's the only one dumb enough to think that KU fans wouldn't know about or want Larry Fedora. Since Leach was hired, Fedora has been the almost unanimous pick amongst KU fans. Who said we were scoffing at Fedora?? Another Keegan fluff piece that doesn't make any sense. Only Keegan would spend the first four paragraphs of a story talking about other things than what the story and headline is ultimately talking about.

treed14ku 2 years, 10 months ago

Looks like Keegan's brother or something created an account. I def. didn't flunk out of school. I did graduate from KU several years ago and like yourself, maintain a job. However, I'm still fully aware that Keegan doesn't have much smarts in that big head of his. The fact that anyone could "enjoy" his ADD style columns is beyond me.

VaJay 2 years, 10 months ago

We all have opinions. Just keep it civil. No need to call people names.

kranny 2 years, 10 months ago

Yikes, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Tis the season and remember Santa's always watching.

Sayers44 2 years, 10 months ago

-1 Fedora lost to Marshall and UAB this year..

Bad teams...

NOPE will have to pass on this guy

You cannot lose to a Marshall and UAB --who just fired their coach and think that we would want him.

NEXT!

Mark Lindrud 2 years, 10 months ago

Marshall is a bowl team and sometimes upsets happen as far as losing to Uab. I'm guessing you wouldn't want Gundy because he lost to Isu either. Fedora would be a good get.

vd 2 years, 10 months ago

As long as they were close losses. If they were blown out, KU fans won't like it. We just fired a coach who had a close loss to a top 25 team. Losses to Marshall and UAB are more impressive then losses to BU, KSU, OU, UT, AM, TT, and OSU.

kranny 2 years, 10 months ago

Change of opinion now that they beat Houston?

Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 10 months ago

Zenger's reputation in the KU community for the immediate future probably hinges on this hire... whoever it is. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 10 months ago

You know, an athletic director's responsibility is to head the athletic department which includes choosing a head coach.

If you make a bad decision, sometimes people don't think you are living up to your expectations at that post.... not sure what was confusing about that.

DevilHawk 2 years, 10 months ago

"The Jayhawks never did land the coach with the fedora (Earl Bruce) but just might get the Fedora with the visor."

Keegan,

Your final line (quoted above) seems to be entirely unnecessary. The line before it would have made a better conclusion. If anything, the line seems as though it would have been more fitting as the title or subtitle of this piece.

Respectfully.

LAJayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

I won't speak for others, but Larry Fedora is absolutely my number 1 choice at this moment. If we land him, Zenger will have drilled one about 465 feet over the fence.

Not sure exactly who Tom Keegan is speaking of, but I certainly am not scoffing; rather hoping and praying that someone else doesn't snag him up, and we have him trotting out in Crimson and Blue in 2012....

blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Not sure why Jones can't get any love on this site. Apparently KU fans don't really know that much about football after all.

LAJayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

June Jones would be a good pick, as well, and there are others I certainly wouldn't be upset about (I'd be cool with Stoops or Doeren... the more I've thought about it, the less I have cared that Doeren was the only FBS coach to lose to Gill this year).

Fedora is simply my #1 choice, personally.

Mark Lindrud 2 years, 10 months ago

Have never scoffed at fedora, which proves how Keegan is still dumb. My vote is for Mark Stoops but Jones intrigues me.

gchawk 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm with you. Fedora has been my pick from the beginning of our coaching search.

johnnyhrdwd 2 years, 10 months ago

Zenger is a huge pimp if he can sign Fedora, more than likely Fedora will hold out after So. Miss raises his pay, or A$M will hire him. I'm fine with whoever Zenger hires, Doeren is probably fine. I still think it should be a coach with Kansas ties and Oklahoma and Texas recruiting connections, somebody that understands how to mix in juco players.

doolindalton 2 years, 10 months ago

The fact KU beat Doeren's UNI on a very fortunate last second touchdown pass is irrelevant or at least should be. Mark Mangino beat Bill Snyder once too. The fact that Turner Gill was also from a small school and had no prior experience in the Big 12 has perhaps poisoned the well in regard to first impressions. The obvious key is determining who is the best fit regardless of where he comes from. I am also interested watching Fedora's team and ,making an initial determination regarding how well coached they appear, i.e. do they block and tackle well, do they appear to know their assignments, do they make dumb penalties, did he manage to recruit a kicker who can kick deep and make his field goals?

irvan moore 2 years, 10 months ago

mason, venables, stoops, that's where i'd like to see him looking for a coach

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, and he did pretty good. But, since he is a Big10 guy he was obviously looking to go there one day. That was his dream. You a dream killer or something? How about a Roy hater? Still bitter over Roy leaving to follow his dream after doing a splendid job here. Come on, if the guy did a good job here before, he could again. Let's not let out minds be overthrown by our emotions. Are you a girl?

Andy Hess 2 years, 10 months ago

I want nothing to do with Fedora. I'd take a defensive coordinator in Venables over him in a heartbeat.

nuleafjhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Ditto. Not necessarily Venables, but in genreal a defensive guy.

We NEED to build a strong defense. It does no good to score 40 pts per game if we're giving up 43. Or 59. Or 61. Or 66. Or 70.

The only time we should be giving up those kinds of numbers is in basketball.

blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Has anyone looked at OSU's record? Would you like to trade places with them? Or OU under Venables defense? They've gotten lit up several times. Hiring Venables as a defensive expert would be like hiring Woody Hayes for his wide-open offense.

nuleafjhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm confused. What are you saying? I'm saying I want someone who has a strong defensive background.

See where I said NOT necessarily Venables............?

Am I missing something?

gdkadjayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Did you see Fedora's defense against the vaunted Case Keenum?

Sayers44 2 years, 10 months ago

Totally agree.....

Fedora = NO!

This year this guy lost to Marshall and Ala Birmingham.....

No thanks....

LAJayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

And currently up a touchdown at halftime against the undefeated #6 ranked Houston Cougars....

texashawk10 2 years, 10 months ago

And Fedora's defense held the highest scoring offense in the nation to 28 points with the final touchdown coming with a few seconds left on the clock and Southern Miss' defense is ranked in the top 30 this year. Fedora's background may be on the offensive side of the ball, but he realizes you need a defense to pair with a good offense to have real success.

sevenyearhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

scoff, Scoff, SCOFF!

No thanks ...

I'd much rather chose Fulmer, Nutt, Barnett (eh) or recycle Mason/Mangino than give yet another mid-major coach their "big break"

John Mueller 2 years, 10 months ago

I don't know that Doeren is my first choice, but i could not agree more that the outcome of the game this year is irrelevant to his potential qualifications / future success as KU coach.

I wonder if Abe Lincoln ever lost a trial prior to his run for presidency?

What were we thinking when we voted him as president for goodness sakes?????

dumb comment, Texashawk

LAJayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

"I wonder if Abe Lincoln ever lost a trial prior to his run for presidency?"

Not sure about trials, but he did lost the the 1858 US Senate race in Illinois to Stephen A. Douglas before being elected President in 1860... by beating Douglas.

kesmithstl1 2 years, 10 months ago

hire Fedora before we light the Menorah!!

bradynsdad 2 years, 10 months ago

I say we offer nick Saban half what he is making at Alabama but give him manginos burger king account. After watching that MAC championship last night I wouldnt care if he did hire doreon. I will go to the games and support my hawks no matter who they hire.

Brandon Pope 2 years, 10 months ago

Two prominent groups have emerged on this site in the last 3 days. Groups 1 is so unshakably demoralized that we didn't get Leach that all they can do is whine about anybody's name who comes from this point on. This article is for those people. All they have been able to do since Leach's hiring is complain about the A list, the B list, the C list, the AD, the chancellor, ESPN, Keegan, Leach, their dog, and anyone else who tries to remind them that the Pirate isn't coming to Lawrence. GET OVER IT!

In the second group, many probably wanted Leach and are disappointed it didn't work out (myself included) but realize that the search goes on and many names that have come up since the start (Fedora included) would be phenomenal hires for KU. Now we just have to wait and see what SZ does. The man knows what he is doing, he knows what is at stake, and he is way more qualified to pick a candidate for KU's future than all of the couch ADs that have emerged all of a sudden.

Let the man work, let him pick the right guy, quit crying about Leach, give these great coaches some respect, and support the guy who emerges because he will be the best fit for KU at this time. If you can't handle that, maybe you should go hide under a rock for 2-4 more days until this thing is over and leave the support of our athletic program to the more emotionally stable in the group.

jhawkln 2 years, 10 months ago

+1 My list in no order: Venebles Fedora June Jones Yes, I do like Frank Solich

Mark Lindrud 2 years, 10 months ago

Nice job! My list is Mark Stoops, Fedora Venables

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Excellent post Jdoc! Nice to read something from a fan that doesn't come off as a whiney crybaby, or just the ignorant rants of the aphercoachingahole k-state kid. Fedora, Venables, Stoops, Jones, or Doeren would all be a step up for KU and the fans should get behind Zenger and his choice.

babyjay1 2 years, 10 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking. Zenger doesn't have a chance with some people... They are ready to run him out of town no matter who he hires (unless it's someone like Nick Saban... Haha). I am giving him my vote of confidence on this one. He has done nothing to say he DOESN'T know what he's doing! Let's let him make his hire and then give it time to see what happens! Come on Hawk fans... get behind the AD and give him a chance to show he knows something about football!

jhawkrulz 2 years, 10 months ago

I think there are also a lot of people that seem to think anybody is good and that just isn't the case.

Doeren, one year as a head coach. Fedora, mediocre record (except this year) in a terrible conference. Dykes, I couldn't have spelled his name before this year, and to tell you the truth he only gets talked about because the ties to TTU, which is the same ties Leach had...his name shouldn't have been on the list. Sumlin-thank goodness he didn't want us...we did not want him at all

I think what a lot of us wanted were there were A list people and these no names are jumping out of the woodworks and everybody thinks they are great ideas. I know now there are two with Missouri ties...haven't we ended that relationship forever!

Solid assistants in BCS conferences have been shunned (Venables, Diaz, Stoops).

Past BCS coaches with solid records seem to be discarded as well (Fulmer, Leach-possibly, Bowden, etc.).

I think the names that keep popping out are disappointing!

VaJay 2 years, 10 months ago

Jaydoc - you forgot to mention this 3rd group of posters - the ones who spout nonsense for no other reason other than to display their lack of intelligence and/or strange desire to start a commotion. Psychiatrists would have a field day with this category.

nuleafjhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

All in fun brother, (or sister)

but if Va doesn't stand for Virginia - the psychiatrists would have a field day with your user name as well !! Lol

Sayers44 2 years, 10 months ago

Zenger blew it by not landing his friend Leech.

Zenger thought he had Leech in the bag and found out that by not paying enough attention to Leech that he then bolted to Wash state --who did give attention.

Now Zenger is behind the 8-ball and is scratching his head trying to figure out the next move.

Any hire now is going to be a ho hum hire after Zenger blew it with Leech.

Now we think bringing in a Fedora who lost to Marshall and UAB is a good thing. WRONG!

Realize that Fedora lost to UAB late in the year and then next week UAB lost to Fl Atlantic who had not won a game all year.

Shows me that Fedora's team did not improve and his team will get their butt kicked today.

Anybody who thinks Zenger has done something special if he hires Fedora is in La La Land.

Zenger should have given Gill two more years. Every coach needs a chance to win with his own recruits.

bradynsdad 2 years, 10 months ago

So go buy a washington state t shirt a get off this site! Leach is gone! You do realize that every big name coach out there today did start at a small school and guess what? They lost to small schools. Get over leach and get on zengers bandwagon because believe it or not he is the guy who has to get it done. You don't want zenger to fail at hiring a head coach.

manginodrh00lz 2 years, 10 months ago

Hillbilly babbling. "wish we had leach but would be happier with Gill for 2 more years"

sundancewierdo 2 years, 10 months ago

WOW... First, hasn't anybody considered that Leach in the Big 12 is probably a bad idea? Maybe, just maybe, Leach didn't want to come to KU? Second, give Gill 2 more years!!! Not far enough toward the bottom for you? Even Terry Allen wasn't this bad... I'm willing to take my chances with Fedora or Doeren. It can't be easy to be in SZ's shoes. This is probably a tough sell to any coach and our best bet is with an up a coming coach looking for a stepping stone job, I just want to make it to some bowl games...

Brandon Pope 2 years, 10 months ago

I would like to reference my post ^^^

"...quit crying about Leach, give these great coaches some respect, and support the guy who emerges because he will be the best fit for KU at this time. If you can't handle that, maybe you should go hide under a rock for 2-4 more days until this thing is over and leave the support of our athletic program to the more emotionally stable in the group."

And can I add.... Gill for two more years???? ???? ??? ?? ?

???

Mark Lindrud 2 years, 10 months ago

Can I come out from under my rock now?! Lol

Fletcher Anderson 2 years, 10 months ago

You are correct every coach should have a chance to win with their recruits. The problem is Gill was not a coach. Great guy but not a coach.

The_Real_Hawkman 2 years, 10 months ago

Read the link in Taits blog you will see WSU had leach in before they even finished the season

The_Real_Hawkman 2 years, 10 months ago

Read the link in Taits blog you will see WSU had leach in before they even finished the season

texashawk10 2 years, 10 months ago

Nick Saban lost to UAB in Tuscaloosa while at Alabama, does that make him a bad coach?

bradynsdad 2 years, 10 months ago

Nick Saban lost to central michigan when he was at Toledo. Urban myer lost to western Michigan and marshal at bowling green. Les miles got beat by southern miss while at okie state. It's a good thing noone gave these guys a chance after they lost to a few smaller schools. Sometimes you have to put your faith in an A.D. For a good hire and a coach to win some games.

blackhawkjayhawk 2 years, 10 months ago

For fun, let's talk Recycled Coaches. Names I've heard most:

Fulmer Barnett Mason Todd Reesing's coach (I mean, Mangino) Mike Sherman

To me, Barnett would be first. Proven winner in this league. Wanted to play at KU, knows the conference, won at a non-powerhouse school.

After Barnett, maybe Mason. For those of you who weren't around when he was, the guy's ego rivals only Roy Williams'. Has said that he has learned a lot sitting out the past five years and that he would love the KU job.

I would think that Fulmer would be third.

I'd probably take Sherman before Mangino. Less impact on the cafeteria budget.

kueric 2 years, 10 months ago

Welcome to the conversation Keegan. You are an @ssh@t, did you read Taits blog to learn the name Fedora? He was many fans first choice and definitely is now (w/o Leach being force fed down our throats by none other than you). Of course he's being rumored at bigger, better jobs now and it appears Kansas may not have the opportunity to hire him. And your comparison of Chryst vs. Doreen is obvious, there isn't a whole lot of talk about Chryst around these parts (he has no Big12, Texas ties) its a non-factor versus what seems like a safe pick. Way to go out on a limb. Stick to your poor editing and write about the basketball team because you know nothing about football.

tical523 2 years, 10 months ago

Nice article Keegan, thanks for serving some perspective (just watched Ratatouille again, great movie). To be honest I have been guilty of this train of thought at times when looking at coaches. Fedora's resume is impressive and when watching his teams play they definitely pass the "eye test" and that record speaks for itself.

hailtoku 2 years, 10 months ago

If we hire a USM head coach, d-coordinator, or o-coordinator we might as have saved millions of dollars and given Gill a couple more years.

This coming from a huge anti-Gill guy....

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Easy to post something like this but go out on a limb here, who is "your" choice? I think Fedora, who A&M would probably jump at if they don't get Sumlin would be a great hire. Offensive guru at Florida and Oklahoma State, bring him in and let him find a tough DC, sounds like a good fit for KU to me.

fancy80 2 years, 10 months ago

I too, was in the Hire Leach group, but I have to wonder if him accepting the Wash St job, wasn't a blessing in disguise. How badly did he want to be here? Obviously, not very bad. I trust SZ will get the best available interested candidate. It mIght not be the "sexy" hire that a number of people here are looking for, but I will support our coach until he/she is no longer our coach.

irvan moore 2 years, 10 months ago

i still have confidence in zenger, i just really like mason, venables and stoops. i also understand i probably (ok, positively) don't know as much about hiring a coach as zenger but it's fun to speculate and have an opinion, we don't all agree but i really don't think zenger will be swayed by our opinions.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Not a truer statement could be made beatnik. Seriously doubt Zenger is cruising these fan boards looking for our opinions, at least he better not be! But it is fun talking about it.

Jayhawk1116 2 years, 10 months ago

Bill Snyder wasn't a sexy hire. Bill Snyder wasn't a big name. Bill Snyder wasn't a head coach...

kureignman 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm a big fan of hiring Fedora. He's been a successful Coordinator and made a smooth transition to HC at a smaller school. He's an offensive guy whose Defenses have been pretty good. He's my clear number 1, but that being said there are several good canidates out there I'd be happy with. Now that Keegan cursed Fedora by writing this article, I might have to get used to someone other than Fedora as HC.

Duane Rice 2 years, 10 months ago

NO VENEBLES! I dont know if anybody has noticed but his defenses have gotten considerably worse.I believe he is past his prime.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

He brings tremendous energy and he is defensive minded. Definitely a Snyder mold. If he is growing stale, chalk that up to the stoops influence. Venables would be Mangino with a defense. That could be good. I think I am warming up to this idea. I don't know why he isn't higher on the list.

irvan moore 2 years, 10 months ago

i still like coaches from the snyder tree, had a great teacher and a real work ethic.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Venables would be good, better than most. I would worry about Fedora talking off the minute A&M decides they want him.

pepper_bar 2 years, 10 months ago

Fedora will have much better options than taking over KU's bottom-ten football program.

At some point, Keegan should take a cue from Matt Tait (who actually seems to know something about football) and start focusing on realistic candidates.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Fedora is Matt Tait's #1 guy pepper. Maybe you should actually read the articles before posting?

pepper_bar 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm aware. I'm not really interested in a lengthy discussion about the respective quality of Tait's analysis vs. Keegan's, but feel free to post your own thoughts.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Maybe Fedora wants to talk it from bottom ten to top ten, even though KU is a middle of the road program not a bottom ten program. So, don't know what your smokin, but obvious you are not a ku fan.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

One year does not a program make. Look up the definition of program.

pepper_bar 2 years, 10 months ago

The new coach takes the program as is, not as past decades' historical results would place it.

TexasHawk44 2 years, 10 months ago

What is amazing is how many editors and writers for the NY Times, wall Street Journal and Sports Illustrated post on here. Certainly Keegan needs to impress you all should he wish to make the big time... Or perhaps you are just talentless Trolls who wish like hell that someone would pay you to cover the Jayhawks don't hold your breath you hating Trolls... Some of you are simply pathetic.

bville_hawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, pepper_bar I think that was directed at you.

Good job, THawk44 +1

The_Real_Hawkman 2 years, 10 months ago

Tell us what you really think about some of the people posting on here

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Watching the Southern Miss and Houston game. Fedora is a GREAT coach and I honestly believe that we'll be LUCKY to get him! His players play HARD for him and there's no giving up!!

bville_hawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Yep, I'm sold as well. Bad thing is so is probably every AD in the country that needs a new football coach.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Very good point! Just love watching his kids playing hard every down!!

Larry Ewart 2 years, 10 months ago

First of all, Z knows what he is doing. He is a FB guy. Strong connections. He will get a solid hire I am convinced about that. Those dreamers who wanted Leach for crying out loud , really? Seriously? Come to the Death Valley of former fb coaches? Keep in mind of the people who have coached here over the years most of them end up getting fired! If memory serves me I think only Gottfried and Mason went on to other jobs equal if not better than KU. So, let's get some reality here people. We are going to get a coordinator or someone on the rebound. Plain and simple. There r better fb jobs out there right now than KU. That is the reality of it all.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Wow, thanks for that. You sound like the kind of buzzkill that also finds it necessary to point out to senior citizens that their time is near. Now go drink your half empty glass of flat beer.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Now Glen, you are still under consideration. No need to panic yet.

Dee Shaw 2 years, 10 months ago

Well it looks like S. Miss is going to beat Houston. You can take the name Larry Fedora off the KU wish list. No way KU will have a chance to hire Coach Fedora. His name will jump off the charts now after beating a team rank #6 in the nation and having a chance at a BCS bowl game. Our Athletic Director needs to start getting aggressive and get a deal done with someone. Coach Leach to Washington St. Coach Fedora to whoever besides KU. The longer the wait the worst coach you are going to get. Sorry to be so negative but it's true. One name I did hear that I thought would be interesting is Brian Schottenheimer. The NY Jets Off. Cor. Went to KU for a year. Then went to FL. and got awesome training under Coach Spurrier. Knows the area. Just a thought. Thinking outside the box.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

No, I am thinking about the box, the box I would like to put you in. All the people who put KU down, say that we are the graveyard of coaches (which is not true), that we cannot get a certain coach, etc, etc... are from elsewhere. Face it, Eaglefan, Fedora is going somewhere, get used to it.

Darin Bradley 2 years, 10 months ago

    1. Nothing negative about your post. Its realistic. SZ can't wait around for the perfect "fit" and expect high quality coaches to be waiting on him. The fire will be extremely hot for Fedora after this win and a seasoned AD will strike. Mark it. Tic Toc Dr. Zenger time is getting away from you......

pepper_bar 2 years, 10 months ago

OK, I've said a lot about how Keegan should set his sights lower, but I will give him credit for thinking ambitiously about this coaching hire.

KU should shoot for the moon and aim high, even if that means not getting your #1 or #2 choice. Value your own program, and others will value it too. Let's dream big, Jayhawks.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

There are so many Debbie Downers on this board. Yikes, maybe a good coach wouldn't want to come here and listen to what a terrible decision he made to take a rebuilding project in Lawrence and make $2M/yr and work in great facilities and have a supportive AD. And the fact that there was major buzz and the stands were full when Mangino had us relevant, I'm sure that will be a huge turn off. You Debbies have me convinced. Terrible job here at KU, you're right.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

There are a ton of new peeps on here. There are people who want Sumlin who say he won't come to KU, ther are people who have headhunters or agents repping them who hire people to create Buzz and this is how they do it. So, yes, there is a ton of garbage on here. The best thing about Fedora is that he exposed Sumlin.

TwistedFish31 2 years, 10 months ago

Southern Miss was fun to watch today. Fedora's kid play extremely hard for him. Those aren't 5 or 4 star recruits, they are kids that are well coached.

jhawkrulz 2 years, 10 months ago

Anybody else hopes that Leach is about 10-26 in about three years from now?

bville_hawk 2 years, 10 months ago

No, that would be negative. We all need to pull together with all the karma and positive thinking we can to convince Santa Claus to bring us Larry Fedora as our next football coach.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if he never shows up in Pullman.

kansasexplorer3128 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm guessing that anybody that watched So Miss take Houston to the woodshed today is not going to belong to the Fedora Basher Club anymore. His team appeared to be well coached and disciplined. Big win in a pressure game.

jhawkrulz 2 years, 10 months ago

He still isn't at the top of my list...I would point out that TG had one conference championship as well.

Jeff Worthington 2 years, 10 months ago

TG's conference title was his only winning season at Buffalo. Fedora has been a consistent winner at So Miss since he has taken over, and has been nationally ranked for a good chunk of the season. TG's teams were never close to being ranked. Fedora has proven success, TG's was a flash in the pan. Huge difference between these two.

irvan moore 2 years, 10 months ago

i think all of my favorites for the job would be happy to be here, i like mason, venables or stoops. a proven head coach at a bcs school or a coordinator from a winning big time program with ties to the snyder.coaching tree. they all would be able to recruit and they would bring credibility to the program.

jaybate 2 years, 10 months ago

Gee, I wonder if Tom knows something about Larry Fedora being the next football coach?

Tom, I hope you are clearing some public relations fees for this.

danmoore 2 years, 10 months ago

Don't understand the support for Mason. If we are going to recycle coaches it should be Mangino. He's been the most successful.

jay381 2 years, 10 months ago

If anyone has watched the OU-OSU game, I do understand why so many friends from OU want Venables the H___ out of OU. What a defensive disaster. I hope he has been stricken from the list if he was ever under serious consideration.

mikehawk 2 years, 10 months ago

Larry Fedora is not coming to KU to be our coach. Why would he do that? He will be waiting for a great job at a football school, not a bad job at a basketball school. Prediction: AD SZ will hire a good coach with no name recognition and the KU Nation will turn on the AD and the coach right away because they are deluded into believing great college coaches are just dying to come coach football at Kansas if we would just call them up, ask, and then hire them. It just ain't so. If my prediction is wrong, I will gladly eat every word.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Ok, where can I find you to make that "eat every word" thing happen?

ack 2 years, 10 months ago

I doubt that Fedora will come to KU. I still think we are headed in the wrong direction. We need a Good Asst Coach who is hungry and will work to recruit a good bunch strong linemen. Get away from all these Texas wanna be players.

Steve Brown 2 years, 10 months ago

Watched Houston v. So Miss as I thought I wanted Sumlin albeit a long shot. Now hope aTm takes Sumlin as expected and leaves Fedora or rest of us to fight over. Fedora my new #1 if we get to vote.

RCJH.

Randy Bombardier 2 years, 10 months ago

Wonder if Barry Switzer wants back in? He is ultra competitive and thats what we need.

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