Friday, April 29, 2011

Students say foam-board letters at KU basketball games helped them achieve the ‘pinnacle of fandom’

A group of KU fans were quick with their letters and messages during the season. Here they congratulate coach Bill Self for catching an errant pass during the second half of the Jayhawks' 89-66 win against Iowa State Saturday, Feb. 12, 2011, at Allen Fieldhouse.

A group of KU fans were quick with their letters and messages during the season. Here they congratulate coach Bill Self for catching an errant pass during the second half of the Jayhawks' 89-66 win against Iowa State Saturday, Feb. 12, 2011, at Allen Fieldhouse.



Students at a Kansas University basketball game use letters to spell out the famous Sherron Collins wisecrack "Ain't No Seats" during a game in February 2009.

Letter carriers

These people helped hold the letters high during at least one game this season. Most are KU students, but some are family members, old and young, of other members of the group:

Sky Kurlbaum, Nicole McClure, Nick Howard, Fur Finley, Adam Trunnell, Grant Metsker, Tanner Claxton, Haley Harrington, Courtney Sheldon, Shelbi Hall, Ashley Gough, Ashley Colip, Meagan Mason, Adam Miklos, Monte Jones, Bret Province, Morgan Cheeseman, Cameron Lampe, Jimmy McClure, Max Kurlbaum, Cecilia Kurlbaum and Anne Foster.


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They say a dollar doesn’t get you quite what it used to. But, at Kansas University, $30 can get you national exposure.

That’s what it cost for a group of KU students and diehard Jayhawk basketball fans to throw together a bunch of foam-board, cutout letters that they took to every home game throughout the season.

Little by little, the slogans these superfans put up at different points throughout games started to garner attention. At first, photos of their witty sayings appeared in newspapers and on websites based in Lawrence, Topeka and Kansas City. Eventually, the group found itself and its version of “SportsCenter Is Next,” on ESPN’s popular highlight show following a game.

“That’s the pinnacle of fandom,” said senior Nicole McClure, one of the key members of the group.

The whole concept began a couple of seasons ago, when an anonymous group showed up at Allen Fieldhouse with enough white letters to spell out the famous Sherron Collins quip, “Ain’t No Seats.”

This group, which can exceed a dozen students or be as small as three or four, depending on the day, remembered seeing those letters and thought they’d try to carry on the tradition while expanding on it at the same time.

“I don’t know exactly what the saying is, but it’s something like, ‘Imitation is the highest form of flattery,’” said junior ringleader Sky Kurlbaum.

The group takes that same attitude when it spots other letters in other areas of the Fieldhouse.

“For us, it just adds to the atmosphere,” Kurlbaum added. “If Markieff gets a dunk, we’ll put something up and then you’ll see ‘Markieff’ pop up over there.”

While several groups have tackled the Scrabble-style display of support, few have done it with the kind of precision, dedication and thoroughness of Kurlbaum and McClure’s group.

Their first endeavor in the business came during freshman Josh Selby’s first game, Dec. 13 against USC. For that one, the group simply held up “Showtime,” paying homage to Selby’s nickname. Talk about prophetic, Selby poured in 21 points in that one, including the game-winning three-pointer in the waning seconds.

While the thrill of the game was enough to get their blood pumping, the notoriety they gained for the “Showtime” sign took it to a higher level and they instantly were hungry for more.

“When we got all the foam board to make the (Showtime) letters we realized we had some extra so we started trying to think about what means a lot to us and what else we should make,” Kurlbaum said. “We went ahead and made a ‘Pay Heed,’ and we had more board left so we were like, ‘All right, what letters are really vital?’ We came up with a U and an N. That was kind of the first round and then we added Rock Chalk Jayhawk to it and a few other letters just so we could do Phog Allen and stuff like that.”

By the time they were finished, the crew had all but a couple of letters and a few repeats in its arsenal. In all, Kurlbaum and McClure haul in two black trash bags full of the 2-foot tall letters each game. The oversized load makes it tough to land prime seats, but it doesn’t do anything to hinder their expedience. As soon as a good idea is verbalized and accepted, McClure and Kurlbaum quickly start divvying up the letters.

“She has all the vowels in front of her with the exclamation point and the dashes, and I have all the consonants,” Kurlbaum said. “So whenever we think of something I just start grabbing all the consonants, she starts grabbing all the vowels and we hand them down and they get ’em up. It’s really a pretty quick system.”

Part of the reason for the rapid flow can be attributed to the group’s ingenuity. Instead of wasting time and space by having all of the letters, they find creative ways to get the job done. N’s become Z’s, F’s are turned into E’s by adding a dash to the bottom, and crimson-and-blue-colored hands have been used to eliminate portions of other letters in the interest of saving time.

As for the phrases that have special meaning for the group, there were several highlights. A popular one was “Nice Hands Bill” after KU coach Bill Self caught an errant pass on the bench, while “OSU Lost!?” and “KU’s Number One” both popped up during a Kansas victory against Iowa State that tipped off shortly after Ohio State lost to Wisconsin. There was one, however, that seemed to be the unanimous pick for top dog.

“I think ‘Hook ’Em Corns’ was probably the best one,” Kurlbaum said. “That was an on-the-spot thing. We didn’t really think Nebraska would beat Texas, but when we saw it happening, we thought, ‘All right, we gotta think of something for this.’”

Though the anti-Texas, pro-Nebraska barb was a hit, Kurlbaum made sure to point out that not every suggestion makes it into the air.

“Sometimes there’s a little democracy in it,” he said. “Some people will say, ‘Oh, this is good,’ and other people will kind of be like, ‘Uhhhh. No.’”

Regardless of who calls the shots or who comes up with the phrases, the key for both Kurlbaum and McClure, and, really, the reason they plan to keep going and already have cooked up some new twists for next season remains the camaraderie.

“The whole student body is such a strong community,” Kurlbaum said. “We just turn to total strangers and say, ‘Hey, help us hold these up.’ And they’ll just be like, ‘Cool.’ It’s great.”


ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 1 month ago

How 'bout

Watch out for those mid majors!!!

(no harm or malice)

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 1 month ago

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ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 1 month ago

How many points do I need to do the dirty on the jayhawk

kusayzone 7 years, 1 month ago

Ah you either have your panties in a wad, or they are on backwards. Please adjust and life will be better for you!

Martin Rosenblum 7 years, 1 month ago

How about a collaboration between and these groups. Using Jaybate as the judge, since he started the PHOF.The username of the person with the best comment right before a game would have his/her name spelled out by the group with the letters in the stands at some point during the game.

I can see it now.....TurdFerguson or Ralster or Memhawk! Of course, trolls would be disqualified!

Any interest, staff?

crazygary 7 years, 1 month ago

That anonymous group was the camping group of Battenfeld Scholarship Hall. Just as a point of clarification.

Brandon Peper 7 years, 1 month ago

I would just like to say that this isn't the original group to do this and yet they are getting all the credit. Battenfeld Scholarship Hall was the original holders of the white letters. We WERE the group who started it all off with "Ain't No Seats" two years ago and have pictures to prove it. We never brought the letters to preconference games because they get little attention from the National Media. And when the conference season started up this year other groups had decided to take our idea and go with it. We were also the group that always held up the "Sportscenter is Next" sign after the end of the KU vs MU game.

Rivethead 7 years, 1 month ago

Hey that's great. I'm glad to know that the Battenfeld Scholarship Hall group was the originator of the idea.

But here's my question for both your group and the new imitators: how come we don't see the letters and catchy sayings at KU football games? I guess "Pinnacle of Fandom" only applies to KU basketball fandom right?

Well, since you guys are in a scholarship hall, you're supposed to be smart enough to understand what the rest of the country already knows: college football dollars drive college althletics. So how come we don't see the same fanatics and fervor at our football games?

The possibilites are endless there too (think "FLAT TOP" everytime James Sims carried the ball (although I've heard the flat top is gone this year, sadly).

Jeffery Barrett 7 years, 1 month ago

Maybe college football dollars drive college athletics, but college basketball drives everything at the University of Kansas. Truth.

BTW, there is only one L in athletics.

Rivethead 7 years, 1 month ago

You're either part of the problem or part of the solution...........

WesternKanHawk 7 years, 1 month ago

We already tried the football thing. The Orange Bowl was ours, then just a couple years later we fire the man who got us there. I am a bigger football fan, but the truth is, Kansas will always be a basketball school. So don't hate on our fans, they make Allen Fieldhouse the best basketball venue in America. Period.

Chris Shaw 7 years, 1 month ago

Uh oh, I hope you're not a twin beper because I'm getting flashbacks from the movie Social Network.

Why don't you go set up a meeting with Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little and tell her all about how your group has been violated.

Brandon Peper 7 years, 1 month ago

Well I'm not going to sue anyone because that would be dumb. I just feel that we deserve a little credit and now that I said that I'm satisfied. Lets not be such an extremist.

Ryan Gerstner 7 years, 1 month ago

Kudos to those students. That's the type of ingenuity I love seeing and it totally adds to AFH's atmosphere. It'd be great to see some students put some time and effort into improving the football atmosphere.

kcglowboy 7 years, 1 month ago

Kudos to every student and group -- whether originators or flattering imitators -- who come up with ways to continually enhance the gameday experience, whether it's through ear-splitting noise, truly clever chants (You let the whole team down), organized surprises (the "flash" mob), or simply being "educated" fans who instinctively know when to cheer (being among the few sets of fans who get excited by great DEFENSE).

I was a diehard camp-out, attend-every-game, sit-behind-the-bench student lucky enough to have been a tiny part of the transformation from inconsistent, mediocre basketball, when AFH sold out once or twice a year, to what we know today. My purpose today is to remind all current and future students that there was a time not that long ago when you could show up 30 minutes before a game and get a good seat ... and to say to all of you (those who come up with clever ideas, and those who take original ideas and improve on them) I appreciate you. I only get to attend a few games a year now, but a big part of my joy of a gameday experience is appreciating the way that students' enthusiasm and creativity and passion carry over and grow from year to year. Keep it up!

HawkBBall 7 years, 1 month ago

There was a time that Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts drew a larger crowd at the Red Dog Inn than the Jayhawks did at AFH. Shamelessly, I was one of them at the Red Dog.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 1 month ago

actually a friend and I started the whole thing with a D and a cut out of a fence.

Jared Grillot 7 years, 1 month ago

Wait, that was YOU? Wow! You get around... basketball, football, East Coast, West Coast... now when I see that, I'll know you're there...

Chris1955 7 years, 1 month ago

Well, let's see..... We can now add Human Texting to the different various forms of communication. I wonder if School of Journalism can come up with an innovative AFH communication media technology. How about a flash mob version of Sportscenter?

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 1 month ago

The wave, beach balls, and lighters

Yup, yup, and yup

bad_dog 7 years, 1 month ago

The Macarena? Electric Slide? Chicken Dance?

Yeah, now that's ahp...

Benjamin Piehler 7 years, 1 month ago

did we stop doing the big cutout heads of the players? I would understand since K-state stole those along with the pre-game confetti....

danmoore 7 years, 1 month ago

I like it. Classy and clever.

This helps to offset the embarassing behavior at Memorial which is neither classy or clever.

gchawk 7 years, 1 month ago

Great story. Keep up the great work students, this is one "geezer" who appreciates your enthusiasm and dedication.

PhogAdvisory 7 years, 1 month ago

I wasn't part of the original group that made those, but I did help hold up the letters from time to time. I didn't know the actual meaning of it immediately either, but I always just assumed it was in reference to the fact that AFH is always sold out. The first time I helped hold 'em up, my friend explained the "origins story" of the signs, but he said it had taken on that double-meaning of "ain't no seats in the fieldhouse," too.

Either way, Sherron Collins seemed to get a kick out of it. He'd look for us at the beginning of games sometimes and point up to the sign, grinning. So that was fun. :)

Make_Ur_Free_Throws 7 years, 1 month ago

To all of you great students and fans who are raising the bar of cleverness for Jayhawk nation in the stands . . . Thank You! This article really makes me smile a lot!

While on this topic, can somebody come up with something more clever to do or say when an opponent shoots an air-ball than just hollering "Airball!" every time he gets the ball in his possession? Just wondering . . . I'm all for the crowd helping the team, but find "this" sort of help wears thin after the first few times it's done. Any ideas?

chaddmso 7 years, 1 month ago

I'm glad that this tradition is still going, but it was a group of us at Battenfeld during the 07-08 season that actually started it all with "Ain't No Seats."

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