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Monday, April 4, 2011

Source: Mizzou expected to hire Miami’s Haith as next coach

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A person with knowledge of the negotiations tells the Associated Press that Frank Haith has agreed to leave Miami after seven seasons and take over as coach at Missouri.

Haith’s deal with Missouri is not yet finalized, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because no contract has been signed. Missouri officials are scheduled to meet late tonight to confirm terms of the contract.

Miami officials did not return messages seeking comment late Sunday, and the Hurricanes’ players had not been told of Haith’s decision as of Sunday night.

Haith has two years left on his contract with Miami, worth a total of about $3 million. He has gone 129-101 in seven seasons with the Hurricanes.

Comments

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 9 months ago

Side note; turner gill thinks this is a bad hire!

jayhawkinATL 10 years, 9 months ago

Nice connection...totally slipped my mind.

100 10 years, 9 months ago

Frank is from Miami right?

If you called this.... You need a job on the radio.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 9 months ago

You've heard of a face for radio, i have a face for the Internet.

Cmill1221 10 years, 9 months ago

This is the first thing I thought of!!! K-state can't get a break! I LOVE IT!

Cmill1221 10 years, 9 months ago

And speaking of Gill. This may be the worst NCAA hire since Gill.

ceebart 10 years, 9 months ago

Mizzou hires a mediocre coach and likely gets frank martin out of the conference. Great work by the tigers lol

David Robinett 10 years, 9 months ago

He could certainly "recruit"... Al Qaeda members. They'd fit right in with the antlers.

Andy Hess 10 years, 9 months ago

Newsflash- who do you think the rebels are who are fighting against Gaddafi? Al Qaeda. Not all arab nutters are Al Qaeda affiliated. We're supporting the rebels (al Qaeda) in Libya and condemning them in America. It's all part of the African and Arabian destabilization agenda.

Ted Toulouse 10 years, 9 months ago

Kinda surprised they wouldn't wait and make a strong push for Brad Stevens. Then agian, this IS Missouri we're talking about...

I would be scared poopless if they hired Stevens honestly. That guy is good and would be a worthy opponent.

Ted Toulouse 10 years, 9 months ago

That being said, I'm glad they hired this loser. More wins for us!

Carter Patterson 10 years, 9 months ago

TT....I bet Missouri was told that neither Stevens nor Smart was interested in the job and thus they needed to make a quick hire before this game ended. Its not quite the destination job they describe it to be.

jayhawkinATL 10 years, 9 months ago

Great hire, Mizzou...for us. LMAO Haith hasn't done squat at The U.

NorthStarHawk 10 years, 9 months ago

Coaches will come and go, however the Jayhawk Nation needs to step up and support the continued tenure of Mizzery's AD Alden. With him at the helm of MU athletics, we can count on his continued bumblings to render Mizzery ineffective and a non-starter in the Big 12 let alone on the national scene.

stravinsky 10 years, 9 months ago

Normally I'm all for having a good rivalry, but it's going to be funny enough watching them end conference season with a losing record year after year that I'm okay with this.

Sally Presson 10 years, 9 months ago

What happened to Shaka Smart. Heard yesterday from a MU fan, they were getting Shaka.

ddeenihan 10 years, 9 months ago

Kinda like how they were getting Matt Painter and how the Big Ten wants them. If you listen to MU fans, you may also hear that double-wide trailers are better than beachfront mansions and 1977 El Caminos are better than 2011 Silverados...

Jacobpaul81 10 years, 9 months ago

Shaka Smart's name keeps flying around like he has evidence of success. He's a guy who has had one moment of glory in a down year in the NCAA and everyone thinks he's an amazing coach. Lets see what Shaka does over the next few years before we jump up and down about his greatness. I've watched way too many coaches like him fail in the long haul.

Now, that said... I like the Frank Haith pickup. He's similar to Mike Anderson. Has coached in the East, South and Midwest.

As an assistant at Texas, he was responsible for recruiting: Daniel Gibson, Jerold Brown, Brad Buckman, Lamarcus Aldridge, Michael Williams. He's been to a Final Four in 2003, and he's recruited in the Big XII, something Shaka or any other ridiculous name mentioned has not done. Recruiting against Kansas and Texas is tough. Having worked at Texas for Rick Barnes, he knows what is expected.

Miami - In 7 years, he's broken 18 wins 5 times. He has 3 20 win seasons, all coming in the last 4 of his seasons. That's obvious improvement at a school no one thinks of as being a basketball program. (Side Note: Anyone comparing Miami to Florida... Florida ranks 64th all-time according to Jeff Sagarin's rankings... Miami? 132. Big Difference. That'd be like comparing Kansas to... La Salle. (#3 vs. # 71). That's a big freaking Leap.

Kevin Studer 10 years, 9 months ago

It's a bad hire because MU boasted of making a big splash with their new coach; this guy's record alone screams "lightweight." They would have been better off hiring an assistant at a top-notch school than a mediocre coach at a low-level program. Dumb move. But until MU can do what KU does, and develop young coaches that WANT to be there (like a Bill Self) in their graduate program, expect to be a stepping stone to bigger and better programs.

JayDocMD 10 years, 9 months ago

Horrible hire.

Miami is ecstatic (both fans and administration) to be rid of Haith - he has a 129-101 record in 7 seasons at Miami and only one NCAA Tournament appearance (out in 2nd rd in 2007-08.) He was making ~1.3 million - very curious to see how much more MU offered. If it is in the 2 mill range, Alden should be fired immediately.

Mizzou boosters - not ecstatic. Per The KC Star: "And in the words of one influential Missouri booster who asked The Star not to reveal his identity: ' It is unbelievable. Frank’s a nice guy. But it is unbelievable. You couldn’t guess that name.' " I honestly wonder if the Curators on the MU Board will approve this - if given the time, boosters/fans may rally to try to shoot this down.

Big Picture: Mike Alden really set himself up to fail. When the Painter hire was so public and then fell through (which btw, was Painter's plan all along to get his $ and facility upgrades), any other REALISTIC hire was going to look bad. There is no way in the world Brad Stephens was leaving for MU - Shaka Smart? Maybe. But Frank Haith? This is a bad hire all the way around. Part of me is laughing at MU's ineptitude, but ultimately a stronger MU makes for a stronger conference and that makes KU look better - which is all I care about.

100 10 years, 9 months ago

There's always going to be about 4 teams in the big 12/10 that are pretty good & 6 that are competitive. This number is similar in the SEC or ACC.

We play each other in the Big 12/10 from now on twice a year. Thanks to Naismith starting this program for us way back when & bringing in the greatest recruit in the history of sports in Phog Allen, we can annually be proud of where we stand in conference or out. We challenge for the national championship nearly every year, regardless of Missouri.

Texas & Texas A&M, and now Oklahoma should be competitive & pretty good in our league over the next few years.

Us worrying about programs like Missouri does nothing for us when there will always be decent competition in our league.

Hank Cross 10 years, 9 months ago

The B12 doesn't compare with the BE (5 NCs with maybe another tonight and not counting NCs won be L'Ville and Marq in other leagues), ACC (12+? NCs), the SEC (10+? NCs), the B10 (9+? NCs), or the P10 (12+? NCs). The fact that the only other B12 member school to have won the NC was the School Formerly Known As Oklahoma A&M, and they did it when Truman was President is also telling.

Bill Kackley 10 years, 9 months ago

The Big East has so many schools, it should be thought of as 2 conferences in 1.

Hank Cross 10 years, 9 months ago

G'Town, Nova, Cuse, and UConn were original members, so it's still the same without the add-ons. Of the original BE members, Seton Hall, Providence, and St. John's have also made the FF.

Ludwig Supraphonic 10 years, 9 months ago

As last Summer's conference meltdown made clear. Regardless of the quality of a basketball program; major conference viability is dependent on football. The Big East lacks any stability in that area. I accept that KU is first and foremost a traditional and present basketball power. For all those who believe our lack of Eastern competition is the reason for early NC exits: A conference affiliation without traditional rivals will not provide the resources necessary to finance KU athletics. KU football dropped the long distance football games with PAC 10 schools decades ago because they were no more of a draw than Illinois State in Lawrence. The ACC has great basketball and variable football but no one is interested in a Wake Forest/KU matchup in Lawrence or Winston-Salem. Comparing conference NC wins is pointless. Especially conferences whose members don't have viable football programs.

AsadZ 10 years, 9 months ago

100,

Don't under estimate Texas Tech. Bill G will improve this program sooner rather than later. he is a proven winner.

Jayhawk1116 10 years, 9 months ago

This certainly seems like a bad hire for Mizzou. And if Frank Martin heads to Miami the Big XII North looks REALLY weak. Texas Tech hires Gillispie, Oklahoma hires Kruger, and Mizzou? I hate Mizzou and K-State as much as everyone else, but we need some quality opponents. This hurts us.

Mike Mainzer 10 years, 9 months ago

I completely agree. Some of our stumbles in the tournament are reflection of our preparation in a conference that is gradually declining. KU was not picked to win the Big 12 and finish behind KSU and barely ahead of TX, BU, and MU. We watched the other 4 fall apart and of the Big 12 teams in the Dance - only KU progressed beyond the Sweet 16. I do not take anything away from HCBS, BUT after losing 3 players to the NBA this should have been a more challenging year for the Hawks and aside from a bloody nose in Manhattan KU played to the level they needed to in order to win. How many double digit leads at the half were expanded against weaker opponenets? We put teams away on early runs and then coasted through many second halves due to the competition they faced. Very rarely was the team forced to put forth 30 - 40 minutes of 100% effort in order to win. In order to grow, the team needs to be outplayed and beaten by a quality team during the conference season rather than playing to less than their potential and losing to a mid-major late in the tournament.

Carolyn Troupe 10 years, 9 months ago

I'm inclined to agree. When you are not challenged much, you don't learn how to face a challenge.

Adam Evans 10 years, 9 months ago

Good thing that next year starts a full round robin with no divisions. 18 conference games. 2 games each against Kruger and Gillispie not to mention UT.

100 10 years, 9 months ago

As is stated above, this concern about Mizzou or any other big 12/10 opponents doesn't hold water anymore, and to me was a tired worn out argument.

We always had tough schools in the big 12. One point losses to Bucknell need to be fixed in a schematic way, not worrying about regular season competition from Mizzou.

The thing is we all play each other now, twice a year.

So Texas, Texas A&M, Tech, OU (suddenly) should all supply decent in league competition as the years go by. Whether it's them or Missouri who is competitive is of little consequence.

Jayhawk1116 10 years, 9 months ago

Yes, but the recent conference realignments have shown that our schools (KU, K-State, Mizzou, Iowa State) are totally and completely expendable. We can't compete with Texas money. I would much prefer Mizzou, Iowa State, and K-State pick up the slack. Though it's fun crushing Big 12 cellar dwellars twice a year, what does it teach us? Recent KU teams are notorious for playing to the (assumed) level of their opponents. We need another bully in town. I don't want it to be Texas.

John Sheehan 10 years, 9 months ago

This is a questionable hire to say the least...time will tell I guess.

I don't think they had a shot at Stevens...why would he leave a place that has 2 more Final 4's in the last 2 years than MU in their history.

I think Shaka would've been a great fit for Mizzou but obviously they didn't have a shot at him either.

As much as I agree it's great to see Mizzou flounder with this hire, it doesn't help us to play a weak MU team. I'd rather play a Shaka Smart team 2-3 times a year to get ready for a run in March.

A weak MU = weaker competition and therefore less preparation for us.

Brian Skelly 10 years, 9 months ago

Wow. Talk about underwhelming. I wont go so far as saying bad... but it appears to be shaky at best for the Tigers. This guy's track record pretty much seems at BEST to simply keep Mizzou where they are at as a program. At worst... well... eghh.

It sounds too like this guy was on the list to get the short haircut at Miami as well. So that suddenly makes him a great candidate for the Mizzou job? Yikes.

A few things really jump out at me with this...

1) Mizzou's claims about being an 'attractive' program are fluff to keep donor dollars coming in. Sorry, your down to you and NC State essentially as the top programs left with openings, and this is your 'big play' for the job? This guy wasnt even mentioned as a candidate, despite virtually every other possibility (and many that were not) being on "the list".

2) Mike Alden is on the clock, if he hasnt already been. Sorry, but when you've convinced the world (or more likely yourselves) about how 'attractive' your program compared to others around the country, you better make a hire that shows that. And this isnt it. Throw in two hires - in conference no less - in Gillespie to Texas Tech and Lon Kruger to Oklahoma that blows away this one... its fair game to question. Sorry, it just is. Alden's judgement should com into question at some point shouldnt it? Remember, this guy passed on Bill Self to hire "hot shot" young coach Quinn Snyder. How'd that work out?

As a Jayhawk fan, it makes me smirk and the repeated futility of the Tigers program. But its still stunning to me they cant do any better than this. Crazy.

Hank Cross 10 years, 9 months ago

This is likely not good for KU. The last thing KU needs to prepare for the tourney is playing another tomato can 2-3 times. They need more games where the opponent is threatening to blow them out and KU makes adjustments and comes back and wins. Or if they lose, they learn from the experience.

People complained here that the BE was over-rated as the B12 turned out to be. That may have been true this year, but historically the BE has had many teams go the FF and win the NC, maybe even tonight. UConn was made stronger playing Pitt, Ville, Cuse, Town, etc., not weaker.

It also seems unlikely that the conference is going to be better with a weakened MU. I don't see how Gillespie at TT is going to change anything. Who wants to go to Lubbock to play third fiddle to KU and UT? Lon Kruger may help OU, but UNLV got eclipsed by SDSU, so his savior credentials are weak at this point.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

I disagree. No matter how big or small your conference, there is always a doormat. The Big East has one (or rather several, which is going to happen if you have 16 teams in your league). If ours is Fizzou, that's wonderful.

As for Gillespie, he'll absolutely make a difference. Your "who wants to go to Lubbock to play third fiddle to KU and UT?" question could be said about any school in the Big 12. However, he did it at College Station, which was anything but a basketball destination before he got there. Scott Drew has done the same in Waco. And these are just Big 12 examples. Look at Jim Calhoun. Was Storrs, CT on the basketball map before he got there? There are many other examples, so simply saying "it's BFE, why would anyone want to go there?" is just an excuse. And honestly, you don't see how Gillespie will change anything? You really don't think he'll do a better job than Pat Knight?

Bottom line, while I almost always want things to happen to other schools that have ancillary benefits for kU, Fizzou is the exception. I hope they fail. Miserably. Always.

kureader 10 years, 9 months ago

Frank Haith - 129-101. just better than average. Sounds about right for MU. Someone expected Mike Alden to attract a high profile coach?
Even 2 million won't get a high profile coach to go to Missouri.

I didn't make the connection between Miami and Frank Martin ... interesting.

Mike Ardis 10 years, 9 months ago

Frank Haith had a better record than Turner Gill and he has been a head coach in a major conference, at a school that doesn't get a lot of basketball support. Could MU have done better - probably, so could have KU...

JayDocMD 10 years, 9 months ago

You turned a bad decision by a rival program into an opportunity to bash KU. Good for you.

Mike Ardis 10 years, 9 months ago

Wrong. I'm warning KU "faithful" that Frank Haith may not be as bad as most of the posters want to believe. Also reading past comments the majority of posters seemed to urge blind faith allegiance to Gill when he was hired because of what he did at Buffalo, yet a number are ready to call hiring coach with a better record at an equally tough place a bad decision before he even coaches a game at MU. Haith will probably be as successful as Gill. If you think that is bashing KU that's your problem.

Jayhawk1116 10 years, 9 months ago

You're comparing apples and hand grenades.

Jacobpaul81 10 years, 9 months ago

Wow you guys are ignorant. =)

For all the trash talk here on the Haith Hire... I've yet to hear a reason why it's bad. Just a lot of talk from a lot of posters with zero information saying "Terrible hire" as if they know their way out of a paper bag.

In his first seven seasons (in the ACC mind you), Haith took over a terrible program at Miami that just moved into a new conference and he went 129 - 101. Perry Clark had destroyed Leonard Hamilton's program by the time Haith took over. He's now had 3 20 win seasons (and an 18 & 19) and he's made the tourney 1. From 1960-2011, Miami's only been to 5 NCAA tourney's, 3 under Hamilton, 1 under Perry in his first year, and 6 years later under Haith. Give the guy some credit. It took Leonard Hamilton 7 years to make an NCAA tourney at Miami and no one would question Hamilton's coaching abilities.

In his first seven seasons, Bill Self at Tulsa and Oral Roberts went 129-81. He had 3 NCAA visits and 1 NIT. He did not have to coach against the likes of Coach K, Roy Williams, Leonard Hamilton, et al.

In his first seven seasons, Mike Anderson, at UAB and Missouri was 123-69. He had 3 NCAA visits and 1 NIT. His first 4 years, he coasted in a tiny conference, then struggled his next 2 seasons when put up against Bill Self, Rick Barnes, et al.

Granted, Miami finished last in the ACC this season. But it's Miami. That's expected. Bobby Knight couldn't coach Texas Tech out of bottom feeder status either. Haith has a great deal of experience recruiting and coaching against Kansas, having worked as an assistant under Rick Barnes and against Roy Williams. If his recruiting at Texas is an indicator of his ability to locate Big XII talent and draw them to his program, that's a good sign for him at Missouri.

Considering the two coaches before Anderson, it's clear Missouri wants someone who is clean cut, runs a clean program, graduates players, etc. They don't need another Norm Stewart/Quinn Snyder who gets sanctions every few years, under-performs, and doesn't graduate anyone on the roster.

JayDocMD 10 years, 9 months ago

Is Frank Haith your uncle? Whats with all the vitriol? So many random and inaccurate comments - where to start ...

  1. In Knight's initial season, Texas Tech went from 11th in the Big 12 Conference to a tie for third - he went to the NCAA tournament 3 of his first 4 years with the team, with middling talent. So... not a "bottom feeder."

  2. As far as "zero information" on why its a bad hire, I mentioned already he went dancing only ONCE in seven seasons. That's the only result that matters.

  3. YOU SAID: "Granted, Miami finished last in the ACC this season. But it's Miami. That's expected." ummmm, that doesn't cut it. Dude made 1.3 million this year. He is supposedly a stud recruiter and has had some good players. No results.

  4. YOU SAID: "In his first seven seasons, Bill Self at Tulsa and Oral Roberts went 129-81. He had 3 NCAA visits and 1 NIT. He did not have to coach against the likes of Coach K, Roy Williams, Leonard Hamilton, et al." Reallly? Are you seriously comparing Bill Self's run to an Elite Eight with a mid major to Frank Haith in the ACC making it to the second round ONCE? Are you implying that its easier for a mid major to make the tourney than an ACC team? So many things wrong with that statement.

Ultimately we don't have to agree on the wisdom of this hire - time will tell. But if you are going to call out posters for "zero information," you better be ready to bring better arguments than these.

Jacobpaul81 10 years, 9 months ago

  1. So dancing is all that matters? Interesting. It's a shame how spoiled Kansas fans have become. I remember being a kid and thinking how awesome it was that Kansas was making another NCAA Tourney. Now everyone feels like that's the only tell tale of a coach. Sad.

In 37 years of Coaching, Eddie Sutton missed the tourney 10 times. Did you know it took Norm Stewart 15 years to make the NCAA Tourney? He missed 22 tournaments in 38 years... 32 of those spent at Missouri. He also never made a Final Four. I'm not about to say Norm Stewart was a bad coach.

  1. Bobby Knight - I love the guy. That said, he placed 3rd in the league his first year in... then struggled to break 4th in conference... taking 7th and 5th twice in his 6 complete years. His best tourney performance at Texas Tech? He went to the Sweet 16 with a team that finished 4th in conference. FACT.

  2. (I stand corrected. Miami took 9th in ACC play in 2011). Everyone claims he had good players... in fact, someone said he had 6 McDonalds All-Americans at Miami. Clearly, everyone is delusional. He's working at the bottom of the barrel major schools. The fact that he's pulled out 3 20 win seasons of his last 4 tells me he's doing a good enough job to play in the Big XII: Baylor, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Oklahoma all finished with 20 wins or less this year. Missouri? 23-11. Good enough for 5th in the league.

  3. I'm not saying Bill Self didn't do a great job. I'm saying it's harder for a coach to make the tourney at the crappy school in a major conference. It's easier to make the tourney from a mid-major if you are a GOOD coach. Haith does not have that background so we can't judge his mid-major production, only his production at a school that plays home and aways against Duke, North Carolina, Florida State, etc every season. That's a tough judgement call to make for anyone.

What we know: He's been to a final four. He's recruited 6 Mcd's All Americans, 5 of which went to a Big XII school. He's coached at 2 Big XII programs. Billy Gillespie left the Big XII and struggled, perhaps Haith is another example of this issue. Clearly other former Big XII coaches are wanting to come back, see: Lon Kruger.

JayDocMD 10 years, 9 months ago

  1. Other than keeping your players out of prison and graduating them? Yes. From a athletic standpoint, dancing is all that matters.

  2. I'm glad we can agree that you were wrong about Bobby Knight's TT teams being a bottom feeder. Whether 3rd or 7th, anyone can see that is not the bottom in a 12 team league.

3A. He was there 7 years. If he is the recruiter everyone claimed he was at TX, then he had plenty of time to show it. If he didn't have talented players, he has no one to blame but himself. Thats his job.

3B. Nobody cares about 20 win seasons. Every program (including KU) schedules some cupcakes. From the looks of things, Miami set up shop in the bakery. Here is a look at the complete list of Miami's 2011 wins: Jacksonville, NC Central, McNeese St, Fla Gulf Cst, Mississippi, W Virginia, Stetson, Central FL, Oral Roberts, Rice, Akron, Pepperdine, Boston Col x 2, GA Tech, Virginia x 2, Wake Forest, NC-Grnsboro, Maryland, Fla Atlantic, and Missouri St

  1. I'll give you credit here.You clarified your point better and I won't argue that a great coach can have a huge impact at a mid major.

  2. As an assistant, Haith cannot get credit for going to a final four, or for any stud recruits. It wasn't HIS program.

Who knows, maybe he will do well. My point is, there is nothing thus far to indicate such. Big picture and most importantly, I'm with icthawkfan316: there is no reason to call people ignorant and make inflammatory remarks. Its all for fun and we are all Jayhawks.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

The reason it's a bad hire is that he's a horrible coach. He brought several McDonald's All-Americans (6) to Miami, and floundered away their talent. You want to point out his overall record and how many 20 win seasons he has, well he's never finished above .500 in the ACC. And when Miami fans want this guy gone, it should tell you something.

It's also a bad hire just from a PR standpoint. When you puff out your chest about how Fizzou is a destination hire, you have to do better than this. The fan base is actually talking about flooding the curators with emails to prevent this from actually happening.

And to your point about Shaka Smart (from your previous post) and him having only one moment of glory, isn't that better than having no moments of glory?

Jacobpaul81 10 years, 9 months ago

1.) 6 to Miami? What 6? Where are you making that number up from. Miami hasn't had a McDonald's All American since Haith took over the Helm! Once again proof that you don't know what you are complaining about. He's recruited 6 All Americans... 5 of them to Texas, one to Wake Forest. Do your homework before you open your mouth. .

Haith has been just as deep in the NCAA tourney (As Smart). He has a Final Four under his belt as an Assistant under Rick Barnes (where by the way, if you did your homework, you would realize, he recruited 5 McDonald's All-Americans for the program... including Lamarcus Aldridge).

Shaka Smart is 33. He's in his first asst. job. He's never held a position for more than 2 years in all that time. Let's let the guy develop into something before we call him Missouri's saving grace.

AS FOR PR: Well, the whole Painter thing pretty much ------- that, now didn't it. Wouldn't mattered who they hired, Painter and the Big Ten once again pulled a fast one on Missouri. They have gotta learn to stop playing games with the Big Ten.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

First of all...how about easy with the disrespectful tone. First you call out everyone on this site as ignorant, then when I offer up explanations as to why it's a bad hire (without disparaging you I might add) you tell me to keep my mouth shut? Maybe you're upset because the guy that responded right before me called you out on not doing your own homework on Bobby Knight, or that your "zero information" blast was inaccurate.

Now, I will freely admit to my mistake as to crediting him for bringing in All-Americans to Miami. I'd seen some people talking about it on the espn article last night, I googled "frank haith all americans" a miami bio popped up that credited him with the six, and I didn't look any further. So yeah, my mistake. That being said, it is the overwhelming consensus from Miami fans (as well as the sports pundits who aren't paid to be nice and politically correct) that he is a horrible Xs & Os coach.

As to your point about him getting as far as Shaka Smart...I don't know what you mean by saying he's in his first asst. job. He is the head coach, in case that slipped your mind. And latching on to Rick Barnes coattails is not the same thing as doing it as a head coach. As a head coach, Haith has a 2nd round appearance. And for the record, me saying I'm not on the Shaka bandwagon should also infer I don't think he could have been Misery's saving grace, but he would have been better than Haith.

And lastly, yeah the Painter deal screwed them, but the gap between Painter and whoever they were going to hire didn't need to be this wide! Would it be too much to ask that the guy you're bringing in have finished above .500 in conference just once (in 7 seasons!)? When most college basketball fans have to say "who?" and google his credentials, when they were willing to pay someone $2 mil/year, and they come home with this...unacceptable. I disagree that it "wouldn't have mattered who they hired." It was always going to be bad once Painter turned them down, but it didn't have to be disastrous.

Alan Braun 10 years, 9 months ago

As a KU fan this hire pleased me a lot when I first looked at his record at Miami. It pleased me even more when I went over to Tigerboard and saw how livid those people are. They're spitting nails, talking about a phone calling campaign to the board of curators asking them to overrule Alden. Haith's record at Miami is lukewarm at best. And if it takes Frank Martin away from K-state, so much the better.

Scott Smetana 10 years, 9 months ago

hahahah, Canes fans everywhere are thanking Mizzery.. They all wanted his losing butt fired. Mizzery fans are pissed. Like they had a chance at Smart! VCU to Mizzery is such a step down! I'm all for a strong league, except for Mizzery fans!

bradynsdad 10 years, 9 months ago

It was almost as if mizzou played pin the tail on a donkey. They just hung up a map blindfolded themselves and the first city they hit that's where the coach was coming from. Either that or they just threw a dart.

Scott Smetana 10 years, 9 months ago

Great Post!! Everyone should read and smile!!

Mark Winter 10 years, 9 months ago

Just got word from an Oklahoma fan that they are going to hire Lon Kruger as the basketball coach !!!!!! I guess they figured if we could hire an Oklahoma State grad with great success the why not try a K-State grad with mediocre success.

waywardJay 10 years, 9 months ago

Mark- Kruger's a good coach. He gave Bill quite a few good players at Illinois. He's not a champion, but he's a solid coach. Expect Oklahoma to be relevant again in two years tops.

jayhawk2062 10 years, 9 months ago

This is the greatest news that could ever possibly happen. The fact that Missouri's AD wants to hire a guy that is 30 games under five hundred in the ACC is classic.

Thank you Mike Alden. You are the Jayhawks biggest asset.

orbiter 10 years, 9 months ago

actually what is sad is the fact you knee jerk to screaming "reverse racism" just because there are black men involved in the equation. Anyone with casual knowledge of this situation knows Matt Painter was the one MU went after hardest. Why leave this fact out? Are your white power senses going awry in Obama's socialist paradise?

waywardJay 10 years, 9 months ago

Let's play devil's advocate here.....

What does Mizzou have.... An abundance of combo guards....

What has been Haith's biggest success in coaching..... A bunch of Combo Guards.

From a personel standpoint this is a solid hire. Dixon, Denmond, and English SHOULD flourish in his system. Them Flourishing should mean a reasonably successful short term hire. They will likely increase the tempo on halfcourt sets and dribble and kick more.... this will mean more free throws and better looks to their bigs, either of rebound putbacks or fewer double downs on their bigs.... Most of this years 15 losses were to good or reasonably good teams. They are playing with Duke? North Carolina runoff players and the kids they could scrape away from Florida in State. This COULD be a boon in recruiting if he were able to successfully tap into St. Louis or Possibly Peoria, as those areas consistantly put out strong contingent of combo guards.Let alone if he conitnues Mizzou's instate success recruiting Kansas City Area Kids.

The Key will be getting Impact post players. Ricardo Ratliffe is a good second post man, but Anderson never brought in the big show post player to make MIzzou tough to beat. Demarre Carroll was his best, and Demarre wasn't enough. If Haith can get that done, MIzzou is not that far off from being a contender... they certainly have the guards ( especially if Pressy squared stay )

jayhawkintexas 10 years, 9 months ago

Instead of "The fastest 40 minutes in basketball" next year Missouri may be playing "Pretend its South Beach--diet and relax"!!!!

Dave Benjamin 10 years, 9 months ago

Not trying to pile on to a school we should care less about but this pretty much could have been the most unimpressive hire maybe next to hiring a sub-.500, aging WAC coach. Honestly, this went from a Coach of the Year from a power conference who inevitably used Mizzou for a pay raise to an also-ran (from a power conference) that makes little geographic/recruiting sense other than he was once an assistant to other coaches in our conference with poor Xs and Os experience (sorry Rick Barnes). Alden shouldn't necessarily be canned immediately, but give this 2 disappointing years and that's about it. Good for us though so I'm not really complaining. Unfortunately, this hurts us from an RPI and challenge/tourney-prep perspective. Not to mention hurt a once-decent rivalry.

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