Thursday, May 20, 2010

Picture perfect: Recruit Zach Peters says Kansas ideal

Plano (Texas) prep Zach Peters heads to the basket in this photo from Jan. 29 of his Prestonwood Christian Academy’s game against Grapevine Faith. PCA won, 86-46.

Plano (Texas) prep Zach Peters heads to the basket in this photo from Jan. 29 of his Prestonwood Christian Academy’s game against Grapevine Faith. PCA won, 86-46.



Zach Peters of Prestonwood Christian Academy in Plano, Texas, skies for a dunk.


Zach Peters, right, elevates to take a jump shot.

— Zach Peters speaks proudly of the night he witnessed one of the most epic moments in Kansas University men’s basketball history.

Peters, a high school sophomore who orally committed last month to play for the Jayhawks in 2012, remembers the night in San Antonio like it was yesterday.

The date: April 7, 2008, when KU rallied to beat Memphis, 75-68 in overtime, for the NCAA title.

Peters, 15 at the time, was sitting a few rows up in the Alamodome crowd when Mario Chalmers drilled the game-tying three-pointer with 2.1 seconds left in regulation. Peters was positioned perfectly in the stands for a stellar view of Mario’s Miracle.

“I’m in the background of the picture,” Peters said. “I’m behind the backboard. You’ve been to the new facilities, right? The big, 100-foot mural (in the northwest corner of Allen Fieldhouse) of him shooting it? That huge mural, you can see me and my family perfectly. Look at the backboard. I’m wearing a blue jacket and a blue shirt.”

Thinking back to that atmosphere — “Everybody was jumping up and down; people were making out behind me; KU fans were going crazy,” Peters says — reinforces to Peters that he made the right decision on where to play college basketball.

Kansas, he says, was the perfect choice.

Blessed with size

It’s May 13, and Peters steps into an office at his high school, Prestonwood Christian Academy in Plano, Texas, wearing a white polo shirt, khaki pants and brown shoes.

Standing 6-foot-9, Peters has to duck as he enters the office. That’s pretty standard. As he makes his way to sit in a chair typically suited for high school students, it becomes clear Peters has been considerably taller than his classmates for quite some time.

His parents, Tim and Christy Peters, had a chart at their house when Zach was younger that kept track of his height. Some sample readings from the chart:

Kindergarten: 5 feet tall

Fourth grade: 5-8

Seventh grade: 6-3

Eighth grade: 6-8 (“Eighth grade was the crazy one,” Zach says)

Imagine being able to dunk in the seventh grade. That was the case with Peters.

Height runs in the family. Tim, a former basketball player at Eastern Illinois, is 6-3. Christy, a former cheerleader at Eastern Illinois, is 5-11. His older brother Garrett, 22, is 6-5, while his younger brother, Evan, 13, is already 6-0.

Currently, Zach checks in at 6-9 and 235 pounds as a 17-year-old. Zach is one year older than most sophomores because he repeated the eighth grade after a Jet Ski mishap during a family vacation. Zach’s parents decided to home-school him for a year.

Does Zach see himself growing any more before he arrives in Lawrence in two years?

“I just feel like I’ve gotten broader,” Peters said. “My shirts are tighter (laughs). I don’t know. But 7 feet is not in the cards. I don’t really want to be 7 feet.”

Early national recognition

Peters showed an interest in playing basketball at a young age. Kindergarten, actually.

It’s just that back then, he was a work in progress.

“I was terrible. I was afraid of the ball. I’m not even kidding,” Peters said, laughing. “You would have never thought I was going to be good at basketball until around sixth or seventh grade when I really started getting into it.”

Toward the end of elementary school, Peters was playing basketball nearly every day. Who could blame him? His dad installed an outdoor full court at the Peters residence. Not a bad deal.

“He’s obsessed with basketball,” Zach said of his dad, Tim. “That’s all I did, was play basketball.”

Peters received his first college offer in the form of a letter in the mail in the sixth grade.

“It was Liberty College,” Peters said. “I scored, like, 45 points in a game. They saw me play.”

Before Peters even arrived in high school, he was receiving national recognition. Hoop Scoop Inc., a Louisville-based recruiting service, ranked Peters the No. 1 eighth-grader in the country in 2008.

The first college campus Peters checked out was Kansas. He was in the seventh grade. Peters took a trip to Allen Fieldhouse on Jan. 27, 2007, when the Jayhawks routed Colorado, 97-74.

“That was my first real college basketball game,” Peters recalled. “It was insane. It’s unlike any other place. It felt like you were in a different time period, first of all. It was really unique.”

Peters wasn’t sure he’d pick Kansas after the 2007 visit, though. He wanted to get a feel for other campuses.

Taking off in high school

When Zach entered high school, he was well prepared for the varsity game. He had trained with former Oklahoma University standout Jeff Webster since fourth grade. Webster also was Peters’ AAU coach until last year.

Peters grew up around the high school game. As a fifth-grader, he watched his brother Garrett become the first freshman in recent memory to play varsity basketball at Plano Senior High.

Garrett was a likely Div. I prospect until a devastating leg injury ended his career during a spring game in 2004. After Garrett went up for a dunk, he came down and landed on a player’s foot. A separate player then landed on Garrett, who suffered a broken tibia bone in his leg. His Div. I dreams ended.

“My friend and I were playing outside at the time,” Peters recalled. “We saw ambulances driving up, and I went in there, and my brother was laying on the ground screaming. His leg, they said it was like a shotgun went off when it broke. That’s how loud it was.”

After Garrett’s injury, Zach said his family adopted the mind-set of valuing life to its fullest every day.

Zach’s certainly made the most of his high school career so far.

In Peters’ first two seasons, Prestonwood Christian Academy made an appearance in the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools Class 5A state championship game. This past winter, the Lions won their first-ever state basketball title. Peters averaged 15.3 points and nine boards last season as a sophomore.

“It was great for all of us and great for the team,” sixth-year Prestonwood coach Brad Freeman said. “Zach’s really developed into a verbal leader. When other kids weren’t playing strong defense, he would step up and let them know.”

Peters is currently ranked No. 4 in Texas by’s Class of 2012 prospect list.

Freeman’s Lions figure to contend for the state title for the next few years as well. One of Peters’ teammates, Julius Randle, was recently selected to MaxPreps’ Boys Basketball Freshmen All-America Team. Only five freshmen in the country earn that honor. Randle, a 6-8 guard, averaged 15 points and 9.8 boards in his first prep season.

“It’s fun. Great players make great coaches,” Freeman said with a laugh. “I’m excited to have them.”

When Peters was asked if he hoped Randle would follow in his footsteps and commit to KU, he smiled and said “of course.” But Peters realizes it’s still early, and Randle will be considering plenty of schools.

Deciding on Kansas

It was March 11 when Peters realized Kansas was the school for him. He was on a vacation in Hawaii relaxing on the beach when he broke the news to his father, Tim.

“I kept seeing people wearing Kansas stuff,” Peters recalled. “It was like, ‘Wow, I really want to go there. I want to talk to those people. They go to Kansas.’ And then they lost in the (NCAA) Tournament (to Northern Iowa), and I was so upset. I was like, ‘Why am I so upset?’ I’m usually not upset about things like this. My dad and I talked about it. I told him I wanted to go to Kansas.”

Peters certainly had his options when choosing a college. Heck, he could have broken out a map and picked any school in any state. Kansas, North Carolina, Kentucky and Texas were his final four. Not a bad list, considering the first three are the winningest programs in the history of college basketball.

Of all the campuses, something stood out about Lawrence.

“All the buildings are like castles,” Peters said. “All the people seemed great. I never ran into somebody who didn’t have a smile on their face. Everyone seemed happy. It just seemed like a really great environment.”

What really sealed the deal for Peters, though? KU coach Bill Self and assistant coach Danny Manning.

“When it comes to basketball, no one’s better,” Peters said of Self. “His basketball IQ is just the best. I think he’s arguably the best college basketball coach ever.”

Manning completed his sixth season on the Jayhawks’ staff this spring. In that time, five post players (Wayne Simien, Julian Wright, Darrell Arthur, Darnell Jackson, Sasha Kaun) have made it to the NBA under his guidance. Cole Aldrich will grow Manning’s list to six in June. Marcus Morris should make it seven a year or two from now.

“A guy with that much experience … I think he’ll develop me into the best player I can be,” Peters said of Manning. “If anybody can, it’s going to be him.”

Peters said, growing up, Arthur was one of his favorite KU post players.

“He played for the (AAU) team I play for right now. He played for Team Texas,” Peters said of Arthur. “He was so versatile. He was a lot better in college than he was in high school (at Dallas South Oak Cliff High). They really developed him with Danny Manning. I like his mid-range game, and he’s so explosive. It’s fun to watch.”

Hansbrough/Dirk hybrid?

Asked whom he molds his game after, Peters answered with two players.

“I like to say Tyler Hansbrough (Indiana Pacers) mixed with Dirk (Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks),” Peters said. “Hansbrough, probably my rebounding. I like to play crazy sometimes and get physical and everything. Hansbrough was a beast. My post moves are a lot like his, I guess. Dirk, probably the shooting and creating the shot part of his game.”

Because of his height, Peters plays primarily in the post in high school.

“It would be stupid for us not to have him inside,” Freeman, his high school coach, said.

When he plays AAU ball for Team Texas, however, Peters plays in the post and along the perimeter. On Saturday, Peters and Team Texas will participate in the K.C. Prep Invitational at Okun Fieldhouse in Shawnee.

Peters said he’s focusing on improving his perimeter game the most right now. He’ll rotate around the three-point line at the Prestonwood gym until he makes 250 threes per day. He usually makes 250 out of 375 to 400. That takes him 30 minutes, maybe less.

Change of heart? Unlikely

Peters won’t be able to sign his letter of intent to play at Kansas until November 2011, his senior year. If he wanted to, Peters could have a change of heart before then and pick a different school. According to Peters and his father, that’s not going to happen.

“He’s fully committed to Kansas,” his father Tim said. “His goal is to enjoy the next two years of high school. He knew where he wanted to go and said, ‘Let’s commit, and let’s enjoy the next two years.’”

Peters said he knew Kansas was the right choice because of the feeling he got in his stomach when he thought about Lawrence.

“It’s like whenever you feel so sure about something and you feel like it’s the right choice,” Peters said. “I just decided, why wait? Why not just let people know right now if I feel so secure about it? Why keep coaches on their toes recruiting me? It was just a really comfortable decision to make.”


Chris Shaw 7 years, 11 months ago

I'm excited about this kid! A couple of things stuck out for me in this article.

1) I was glad that the "Change of Heart" question was asked. It seems that too many times these days you find youngsters committing to schools too soon. I'm not saying that Peters will do this, but I was very encouraged with his and his Dads respones. It looks like Peters older brother and the family's oldest son really had impact on their family.

2) I like the Hansbrough/Dirk comparison-It sounds like this kid has a mean street in him. I like those kind of post players. Darnell Jackson, Alonzo Jamison, and Richard Scott ring a bell

3) Just throwing it out there. I wonder since he's a year older if he would ever consider graduating early? Depending on departures and uncertainities of the KU program in the near future for 2011 there is always a possibility of a need. We'll have to wait and see, but that could always be a possibility if something drastic happens.

rockchalkAZ 7 years, 11 months ago

Just because he's older than the other kids in his class doesn't mean he would be eligible to graduate early. He still has 2 years of academic coursework to complete. Age does not matter in that regard.

Chris Shaw 7 years, 11 months ago

You are indeed right? Age does not matter. However, It does depend on his coursework and who says he still has 2 years left? You never know with AP classes these days. You can always speed up your curriculum if you so choose.

RockChalkGuy 7 years, 11 months ago

I have a son that is graduating from H.S tomorrow and another that is a sophomore right now. The younger son could easily pick up a class or two and graduate a year early. Unfortunately for our education system, the number of credits needed to graduate is not all that demanding and early graduations are attainable for most conscientious students.

Personally, I think Peters should wait and join the team when his scheduled time comes. This will only help KU, and him, in the long run. After all, would you rather have Marcus at his freshman-build or his sophomore-build?

cklarock 7 years, 11 months ago

Sophomore build, without question . . . which Marcus wouldn't have attained if he wasn't working with Andrea here at KU. ;)

Still, your point stands -- older is often better in terms of build.

Chris Shaw 7 years, 11 months ago

This happened very late on the East Coast, but it looks like Terrence Jones is heading to Kentucky. He did not sign a letter of intent, but a financial aid agreement has been sent to Kentucky. Here is the article

Recruiting gets crazier and crazier every year. A "Fake Grab" at a KU hat and then chooses the more stylish Washington hat. He either makes a phone call or receives a phone call (The jury is still out on that one) and talks to Calipari. Jones wavers for almost 3 weeks now and almost at the last possible second on the last day of signing period, Jones chooses Kentucky.

Man, those Huskie fans are going to hate Kentucky and Calipari this upcoming season! There is a chance that Washington could face Kentucky next year at the Maui Classic. Wouldn't that be sweet? Yes it would!

Here is the University of Washington "The Daily"

Seattle Times

CP 7 years, 11 months ago

Just goes to show that Calipari is the best recruiter in the business.

OCJHAWK 7 years, 11 months ago

Maybe just too good? Especially after a commitment.

OCJHAWK 7 years, 11 months ago

You can stick it in the eye of the NCAA and destroy another school when you know your foot is out the door.

KANSTUCKY 7 years, 11 months ago

...or the most underhanded recruiter in the business.

Tyler Bruce 7 years, 11 months ago

Frankly, I'm thrilled that TJ decided to not come to KU.. what shotty individual to do this!

and I think it just goes to show that Calipari is cheating and sooner or later poop will hit the fan and he should be barred from College Basketball.

gchawk 7 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for the info, KUSHAW. Your ability to find these articles never ceases to amaze me. As far as Zach Peters goes, he seems to be a very special young man, I feel fortunate that he has verbally committed to KU. In my freshman year of college I grew another 1" which pleased my coach, however, it took a little time for my coordination to catch up! I could easily see Zach growing a few more inches.

rcjh22 7 years, 11 months ago

Jones himself later Tweeted: “Either way 1 fan base was gonna hate me ….sooo how much wud u care.” He added: “Yeah most hated player n 2010 goes 2 me.”

i think he likes this

Steve Brown 7 years, 11 months ago

I wonder if HCBS offered TJ a spot or not, if so, he 'may' have been KY comitted all along and was just searching for violations.

I heard the nCAA has a few kids each year go long in search of odd offers, while it doesn't seem likely TJ would be one of those secret shoppers.

TJ missed a chance to work with Danny- his loss not ours.

Steve Gantz 7 years, 11 months ago

That bombshell had all of 5 responses from UW fans all day. If something like that happened here we'd see 100's of angry, foaming at the mouth fans!

Ted Toulouse 7 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, but they're going to love it when Cal either splits for the NBA or gets sanctioned AGAIN for illegally recruiting, well, basically everybody from last year's team.

jhawk23 7 years, 11 months ago

Does anyone know what time he plays Friday at Okun Fieldhouse in Shawnee for the K.C. Prep Invitational?

bradh 7 years, 11 months ago

Nice article and he sounds like a great kid to have joining the Jayhawk family. Welcome Zach.

jayhawkinnc 7 years, 11 months ago

Peters says he molds his game after Hansbrough. I sure hope he's not an annoying dork like Hansbrough was.

jayhawkinnc 7 years, 11 months ago

As for Calipari, he's such a greaseball. I hate it that he has a little bit of history with our program having been an assistant with us for 3 years. but, it sure was sweet winning the title over him in '08.

Steve Brown 7 years, 11 months ago

I will never forget Coach Brown saying when someone called him Umass maybe or someone else about Squid resume' that he coached our frosh or JV team, larry laughed, we didn't have a frosh or JV team. at the time it was funny, a KS. assist. coach made good, but in hindsight, it speaks to do anything or say anything for the end game, for some of us the means to the ends do matter.

odd stuff whey we obsess over this guy..

KANSTUCKY 7 years, 11 months ago

Nice article Eric. Keep up the good work. How about another article about that other Plano kid and his desire to play at the best basketball school in the country?

Kris Nelson 7 years, 11 months ago

What? He's going to Kansas too? Sweet. Kensucky can suck it.

Jerry Rockhold 7 years, 11 months ago

To jhawk23, I couldn't find any info. listed on-line yet about the KC Prep Invitational, but the phone # for the Okun Fieldhouse where they are playing is (913) 422-5599. So far all I've gotten is an answering message, so I left a message. I'll update this later if I get any additional info. RCJH

Gavin Fritton 7 years, 11 months ago

Not to quibble, but has Sasha Kaun made it to the NBA as the article says? I know he was drafted, but I'm pretty sure his entire professional career has been spent in Russia, hasn't it? And before people start thinking that I'm attacking him or minimizing his accomplishments, I'm not. I, like every KU fan, hope that he becomes a dominant force in the NBA. I'm just saying that he can't really be counted (yet) as having made it to the NBA.

Eric Sorrentino 7 years, 11 months ago

yeah, sasha's been playing in russia, but did get selected in the NBA Draft. I was going off who's been selected in the draft under manning.

Marcia Parsons 7 years, 11 months ago

I figure if you're drafted, you've made it.

Robert Brock 7 years, 11 months ago

Calimari supposedly stole Kanter from UW as well. Jeebus.

Tony Bandle 7 years, 11 months ago

Calipari is the symptom. the NCAA is the problem.

It has gotten to the point that Cal's standard operatiion of procedure is so consistently slimy that the authorities have been lulled into acceptance, waiting for that one superbly outrageous act whereby they can throw the book at him.

His antics would draw much harsher reactions to most other programs. To the NCAA, that's just Cal being Cal. His teams draw ratings and $$$$$'s.

I do find it interesting that a high school sophomore would be willing, if he could, to sign a letter of intent with Kansas while several 5 star senior OADs will only sign Fin. Aid letters with Kentucky.

PS Count TJ's Mom as part of the problem.

Eric Sorrentino 7 years, 11 months ago

Hey guys, Peters will play on Friday in the invitational at Okun Fieldhouse in three games with Team Texas. I can't remember the exact times, but I'm pretty sure it's 9:15 a.m., 11:45 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. Thanks for commenting.


Eric Sorrentino 7 years, 11 months ago

He's playing Saturday, not Friday, sorry guys!

Jerry Rockhold 7 years, 11 months ago

Hey Eric, thanks for the great article & game info. as well. Where can I find the schedule & any info. about the teams & players in the KC Prep Invitational?

Eric Sorrentino 7 years, 11 months ago

hey there, the website is tough to come by on google. But it's The schedule of all teams is on there. Hope that helps.

Beakem77 7 years, 11 months ago

The way you described Lawrence took me back... You're just going to love it. Congratulations on finding your future home! It will stay with you forever!

RockChalk26 7 years, 11 months ago

I love it when kids commit early to a school. As a fan, my anticipation for the player's arrival is much greater then a player that commits last minute.

Scott Smetana 7 years, 11 months ago

Awesome Recruit!! Looks like he's got some muscle to grab up some rebounds.

Wow, just read about Terrance Jones... That's 2 that left UW for Calisleazy. I bet Pac-10 is loving him now! I wish we knew what Calisleazy said to TJ on the phone that afternoon he picked UW.

KUbsee69 7 years, 11 months ago

The latest schedule, updated 5/20, shows Team Texas (17U) is playing SATURDAY at Okun FH, not Friday. General Admission is $7.00.

Team Texas plays at 9:15am, 11:45 am, and 2:15 pm, all at Okun FH.

The tournament is played at several sites in Shawnee, Olathe, Stilwell, and Overland Park. The link in Eric Sorrentino's posting above has all of this. Unfortunately, there's no one site to see all the players that KU is interested in (i.e. Beal, Ellis, and Peters). Bill Self's son is playing in the tournament.

Coach Self is there along with 300 other college recruiters. (I hope the don't let Calipari in.)

Eric Sorrentino 7 years, 11 months ago

Hey KU, you're correct, sorry about saying Friday earlier. Peters and Team Texas will indeed play on Saturday. The three games are at 9:15 a.m., 11:45 a.m and 2:15 p.m.

DutchMo 7 years, 11 months ago

Am I the only one whose nervous about calling this kid "perfect?" Perfect is a high idea and we have all seen how this expectations can come back to haunt you. All year lats year you kept hearing about how this team was the perfect team, but then at the end it winds up that we were not the one perfect team instead of Duke was. I think its to early to say that this kid will be the perfect one, even though he looks great in the picture. I hope he is though!

Tony Bandle 7 years, 11 months ago

Zach will be a great test of the "Anti-Kansas" theory. Let's see how his class rankings settle now that he has verbally committted. Will he receive fair rankings or will he be "Royce'd"!!!

Tony Bandle 7 years, 11 months ago

Zach will be a great test of the "Anti-Kansas" theory. Let's see how his class rankings settle now that he has verbally committted. Will he receive fair rankings or will he be "Royce'd"!!!

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago

Part I

"What I Like About Zach"

(Note: Sing title to "What I Like About You" by The Kinks before reading.)

Here's what I like most about Zach Peters.

His nose.

Not the LeBron-sized shoulders?


The air port?


The honker. The schnoz. The proboscis. The beak. The cocaine Bissell. His snoot, man.

But why?


It looks tough to break. To bust. To push out the back of the head. To give the elbow spread.

Let us face it.

In today's XTReme game, good big men with pointy noses entering D1 go through nose-battery, from the moment they do the double-double.

Yo, Barbara Streisand, what is nose battery?

It is an offensive touching, or use of force, on a person's honker without the person's consent.

Each year, it is only a matter of time before the year's hot freshman big with a pointy beak is doing the Jason thing with the latest acrylic, or kevlar, impact displacement device.

Cole Aldrich got the treatment his first season of full time play. I believe Sasha did, too. Too often, it seems, its the good guys getting their noses Pekinesed.

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago

Part II

But sometimes even bad guys get the treatment. Who, after all, was more deserving of Jasonizing, than Psycho T?

Note: I warn Zach away from emulating Psycho T. As every gun fighter, and tough guy, and imitation crazy, learns, there is always someone faster, tougher, and truly crazy, waiting on the next gang you have to play. Be professional in your game, ruthlessly so. Do you what you must. Some time you may have to break someone's nose to enforce. Until the refs recover their sanities, it is how the game is.

But even the baddest of the bad understand and respect that there is a code of measured mayhem. You never go off just to go off. You never try to intimidate when intimidation is unnecessary. The hoops community is big. Its memory is long. They will not hesitate to rearrange your face at a later date. You meet the same folks on the way down that you do on the way up, as Wooden sagely taught. Be professional and only get down in the muck when mucking is called for in the code. The imitation crazies, like Psycho T, they waste a lot of time wearing Jasons, when they could be giving them. But I digress.

The Low Blocks Nose Job Treatment tends to continue until a young big realizes that D1 basketball in the paint is a game in name only.

And until he Hudies up to 250-260 pounds on the scales.

And learns to sharpen his elbows with a Dremel Tool.

And takes an off-season to learn to throw his newly weaponized, articulated bone mineral at opposing players noses, eye sockets, temples, throats, teeth, testicles and other vulnerable locations with the accuracy of a Marine sniper squeezing an M 107.50 on a hostile in Helmand.

We are not talking "the racial" here either.

Nose-battery is an equal opportunity basketball weeeepon, as some southern DIs have Southern-ized the W word.

One of the first guys I ever recall wearing a Jason, well before I started calling them Jasons, was Michael Leeroyall "Mike" Evans, a great KSU guard of the late 70s. Anyone remember for sure, if Mike wore the Jason for a busted air port, or for a cracked eye jack?

Basketball...the noncontact sport...its faaaantastic.

But the point here is that, in the Darwinian natural selection that goes on out on a D1 court, where certain species of players struggle for survival in the maple wood ecosystem by stalking noses, bigs with less pointy ones are less prone to getting Rucker League Rhinoplasty.

And Zach Peters, while not having a nose spread like cheese whiz between his cheeks, seems to have a much less attractive target than Cole Aldrich had.

And this is all to the good for Zach.

As the XTReme Basketball Bible says in Nose 3:17:

"Tis better to give Jason than to receive one."

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago


Royced...and here's why:

The pixel-burned wretches cannot make any iScrip for shining hype on a guy that won't submit to triggering clicks by staying in the recruiting circus.

Here's my solution to this: stage an all-star game each season between the pre-senior commits vs the senior commits.

Settle it on the shellac.

Blake Post 7 years, 11 months ago

All who chose to be Jayhawks are perfect in some respect. Kentucky is sucky.

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago

"Some Possible New Names for a Site Competing with"

I am considering setting up a new recruit ranking website and, like all second-rate, would-be oligopoliy wannabees, I know that to compete effectively, I must emulate the competition, not beat it. seems like a market standard. So here are some of the web site names I wish to test market here. Yes, I am shamelessly using board rats, as a focus group.

p> Would_Have_Predicted_Wilt_Chamberlain... BoilerplatePraiseBoilerplateCriticism... Once_Failed_As_A_Dvision HypingRankPreferenceThatDoesn'

Please vote early and often on the preferred name, or feel free to suggest your own.

(Note: this is entirely fictitious and lacking even a neutrino of malice. I felt just as puffed up as the next Jayhawk, when Selby sky-rocketed to Numero Uno.)

Chris Shaw 7 years, 11 months ago

Rivals has a new Top 150 as of today for Class 2011

Bradley Beal is #5 Austin Rivers is #6 Jabari Brown is #12 Angelo Chol is #19 Quin Cook is #20 Ben McLemore is #21 Josiah Turner made a huge jump and is #22 Kyle Wiltjer is #23 Johnny O'Bryant is #24 Sam Thompson is #33 Norvelle Pelle is #40 Michael Hopkins #50 Keaton Miles fell big time and is #109

Note: these guys were at one time KU targets or still are so that is why I mentioned them. Some may no longer be on KU's radar or vice versa, but just listed them as they were familar names.

mhildreth85 7 years, 11 months ago

The article claims that Manning has helped to produce five post players to the NBA: Simien, Wright, Arthur, Jackson, and Kaun. Kaun has not made it to the NBA and is still playing in Russia.

Chris Shaw 7 years, 11 months ago

you need to reed the comments above. It's been addressed! Plus, the Cavaliers still retain the rights to Sasha Kaun.

mhildreth85 7 years, 11 months ago

Why kind of loser has time to read 60 comments. Get a life. Also, just because a team has rights to a player does not mean that they are an NBA player. Is Ricky Rubio an NBA player? Nope.

Michael Gentemann 7 years, 11 months ago


"What I Like About You" was the Romantics, yes?

Martin Rosenblum 7 years, 11 months ago

Jones must realize that this won't be Kentucky's year to win it all, with him or without him. In fact, they will struggle in post season play in both the SEC and the NCAAs. Does he think that Cal will be his ticket to the NBA? Does he think he will be a high draft pick after one year with a team that will not be in the top 10 for the entire year? Does he think that he would have fared worse at UWash? THe spotlight of playing for Cal is not exactly what it once was. If Cal does bolt from college bball, mabe Jones thinks that he will be able to tag along with him and bypass the draft. Who knows the answers. But, one thing is for sure, at KU he would have been able to have been proud for life to have been a Jayhawk. At KY, he will find it hard to look back and brag about his Wildcat letdown.

Tony Bandle 7 years, 11 months ago

kushaw..thanks for the list.

It looks like we'll have at least 4 schollies next year [ Brady, Tyrel, Mario and the leftover 2010} .Assuming Josh stays another year with Marcus because of the lockout [worst case scenario for scholarships/best case scenario for team ability], we won't gain any additional early departures.

HCBS will need to make sure that he has 2012 schollies available to offer to Perry, Shabazz and maybe Nino Jackson with one already going to Zach Peters.

As a fellow St.Louisan, I can attest that Ben McLemore is almost a sure, done deal Jayhawk. Not only is he a great player but he is a great kid and he loves KU, Kansas and Bill Self.

Angelo Choi is a huge lean toward KU...two words....Danny Manning!!

How many more off this list may be problematic. Any thoughts??

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago


My recollection is Ray Davies and the Kinks did the original, and the Romantics covered it in the version that most of us remember. But it could be the other way around. Davies might have covered the Romantics.

jaybate 7 years, 11 months ago


Great point about UK likely not getting better with what they have coming in. For all the hype, it was Patterson that was foundation for them down the stretch. And Cal doesn't have a Cousins coming in. Wall he can probably duplicate.

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