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Wednesday, March 17, 2010

KU must revisit Temple

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As the Kansas University basketball team begins stalking another NCAA title, it needs to copycat this:

Jan. 2, 2010, Philadelphia — Kansas 84, Temple 52.

That was no weakling the Jayhawks rag-dolled that day. The Owls went on to win the Atlantic 10 title, capture a No. 5 NCAA Tournament seeding and carry a 29-5 record against their first-round opponent. That’s Cornell, a 12th-seeded Ivy League champion with a 27-4 record that gave Kansas a huge scare this season.

Kansas hadn’t played as well against any foe as it did at Temple. KU may not have fashioned as complete a drubbing of a quality opponent since. If the Jayhawks develop a mind-set to duplicate that Philly romp for the Final Six (we hope), I’m betting nobody will derail them. Fact is, they gonna win.

In case the Jayhawks have forgotten, let’s recount some of their feats at Temple. Cole Aldrich had a 10-point, 10-rebound performance, while Xavier Henry scored 15 points, Sherron Collins 14, Marcus Morris 13. KU led 40-23 by halftime, was up 60-35 with 9:25 left and battered the highly rated Owls 43-31 on the backboards. No Owl scored more than 11 points.

It was the worst loss Temple had suffered since it fell, 106-69, to Wake Forest on Feb. 7, 1993.

To find a more decisive KU victory against a quality opponent since that trip to Philly, you gotta look hard.

Clearly that rout of Temple drained the Jayhawks because they came home and darn near lost to Cornell. Yet as good as Cornell is, that was another important achievement. People complain about some of the “patsies” KU plays nonconference; Temple and Cornell aren’t among them.

This erratic Kansas team sometimes is hard to love. It lets itself get caught up in dangerous ebbs and flows that are a far cry from the Temple win, and it drives fans nutty. But it’s Consistency Time, and if Kansas can tear things up from here on as it did at Temple, hang another title banner. KU has the talent and depth.

• You gotta chuckle at the way fans let media people jerk them around. If a commentator says something good about the Jayhawks, he or she is nonpareil. You hear something less than flattery, and the Tweeters, Twitters, etc., paint the source as a Hitler clone. One day Digger Phelps, Jay Bilas, Bob Knight and Doug Gottlieb are kings; one non-KU utterance and they’re cabbages.

• One of the most mindless aspects of televised games are those sideline reporters who grab a coach at halftime and ask dumb questions. Coaches dutifully tolerate such nonsense, but it’s a nuisance.

Then there is Holly Rowe, whose low-cut top recently showed her cleavage to the max. Tacky. Dress like a professional and perform that way instead of fawning over athletes and coaches, kid! Cheerleaders are there to flaunt skin; media people should report news, not try to make it.

Holly topped even herself after the Kansas-Kansas State title game. She interviewed Sherron Collins, then called to him as he was walking away and delivered a tremendously unprofessional hug, on camera, yet. Tasteless, at best.

All the more reason for television networks to cut their costs during the recession by firing those inane sideline reporters. Male or female, they add so little.

Comments

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

} Bill, Bill, Bill, where does one begin with you. You do something good last week we praise you for and then look at this mess you have made.

} You chastising this KU team for inconsistency is like a hooker saying a nun has loose morals.

} Now, about Temple: The Owls play in the Atlantic 10, one of the weak conferences. Temple might well have have been .500 in the Big 12 conference this season.

} Regarding KU's play this time of year: If KU were to play as it did against Temple, it would probably lose to Lehigh this Thursday, for St. Jude's sakes. While you were busy continuing your inconsistency this season this current KU bunch became a seriously integrated team that went 32-2, and 15-1 in one of the toughest conferences in the country. When KU played Temple, KU was a bunch of individuals all having a hot night together. If you don't understand some thing this basic about the game, how do you wash and feed yourself?

} Regarding chuckles: maybe "you gotta chuckle," but I don't "gotta chuckle," at the way fans let media people jerk them around. I see fans jerking media people around on the internet. Maybe you don't read what people write about you (oh, of course, you do), for instance, but frequently readers view you as a fool to be scoffed at, not because you jerk them around, but because you seem to have no clue about what your are awkwardly trying to write about. Once in a while you put together a decent sports story (you did so a few days ago), but the fact is this KU team puts out more good wins than you put out good stories.

} Regarding professional journalism generally: frankly, Bill, the fans woke up to the fact that professional journalism had become moribund long ago and that many, many professional journalists were disgraces to themselves and their publications.

Since the internet age got in full swing, Bill, the fans do the jerking. I have watched many fans lead you around by the the nose, call you out for the drivel you have written,and take you to task for writing such things, show you how to write them better and with more insight,and I have watched you try to ignore the humiliation for awhile, and then later try to get better after being shamed into doing so.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

No, Bill, it is not the fans letting the pros get to them. It is the fans, most of whom earn more in their professions than the pros do in theirs, and who are in many, many, many cases simply possessed of higher IQs than the professional journalists, that put it to the pros...again and again and again, Sometimes I actually find myself rooting for you and Keegs (though never for Woodie) the way I do for underdogs in basketball. Sometimes you guys are just doing such terrible jobs and the fans are just creaming you up one side and down the other that I actually root for you to do better and prove'em wrong the next day. But then you write something like the story above and I find myself joining in on pummeling the pros.

Professional sports journalism was almost sh!t canned by publishers, because it could not compete on content with the amateur blogs and so lost much of its advertising revenues.

So far, we "fans" have saved your sorry asses. Don't forget. This web site would go on just fine without the pros. The only thing it can't do without is the "fans" that participate. It is a harsh truth, I know, but it is what it is, as the saying goes.

} Finally, a man your age struggling with man boobs should not begrudge Holly for showing her rack. Frankly, I prefer looking at Holly's cleavage to listening to much of the commentary I hear on the air. I would definitely rather look at Holly, or her cleavage, than look at, or listen to Dick Vitale any more. What in god's name is wrong with having an moderately intelligent woman who wants to show off her cleavage on the sidelines? I wish Holly were sitting next to Bob Knight. She would be infinitely preferable to Brent Mussberger. Frankly, on about half the days you post a story, Bill, I wish Holly had your job and I suspect Tom Keegan does, too. The other half of the time, I am kind of glad you are still in their slugging the keyboard.

The probability is: if Holly were fired from the sideline, the World Corporation would probably sh!t can you and hire her to do your job.

Let's live and let live, Bill.

KU is 32-2; that's pretty flipping consistent at winning.

Fans are putting out more column inches that the pros every flipping day now; they are doing okay.

Professional journalists have had to get better to catch up with the fans and they are at least starting to try to catch up.

Holly has nice cleavage and a cute, freckled face, if you would ever look up from her cleavage and notice it, Bill.

And maybe we're through the worst of Depression 2.0 and no one, not you, not Holly, and not Keegs, has to get sh!t canned, like poor Ernie Kent just did up at University of Oregon.

Rock Chalk!

Kent Wells 10 years, 2 months ago

I'm OK with Holly goimg bye bye. I thimk Erin Andrews should do all games. And show lots of skin.

wonderingwanderer 10 years, 2 months ago

I was at the Temple game and would gladly attend the next few if anyone else wants to give me tickets to ensure good luck.

RockCaCO3 10 years, 2 months ago

Bill, how the heck do you do from "KU must revisit Temple" to Holly Rowe's rack? Focus!

swunruh 10 years, 2 months ago

Bill Enjoyed it and agree with you. Why do all the networks have some dizzy dame asking dumb questions from the sideline??? What a waste of time and money. Some of them are better than others but most are clueless.

Robert Brock 10 years, 2 months ago

I completely disregard the Temple game as an indicator of anything special. The Temple kids looked saucer-eyed from the beginning and they remained tighter than Holly Rowe's skirt. Their hot-shooting player (Fernandez?) couldn't hit water from a canoe that night. Temple didn't have anything and the Hawks' tactics worked to perfection against punching-bags. Toss out this meaningless one...

Mike Joseph 10 years, 2 months ago

If you want a dizzy dame asking inane questions, how about the Loretta Lynn spawn that does the SEC games on ESPN? I would bet my paycheck that she isn't even wearing shoes.

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 2 months ago

To me the best thing about the Temple game was that they didn't let up even though they had a comfortable lead by halftime. Maybe that's what Bill was referring to, and not their experience level. Kind of a cruel review, jaybate. I don't expect that from you.

gojbirds 10 years, 2 months ago

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Mike Joseph 10 years, 2 months ago

From Bill's column-- "If the Jayhawks develop a mind-set to duplicate that Philly romp for the Final Six (we hope), I’m betting nobody will derail them. Fact is, they gonna win."

Final Six??? Where are the proof-readers or spell-checkers? "gonna" has become the new "going to"? And "they" must have replaced "they're".

100 10 years, 2 months ago

Newsflash...

Apparently Holly Rowe isn't only a reporter, she also, according to one deep throat source, has lactation devices!!!!!!

Milk has been reported to come from such things on animals such as Mice, Cats, Dogs, Whales & even Sheep!!!!!!

If reliable sources can indeed confirm that Holly actually does indeed have these devices, we will break into all programming immediately....

Please stay tuned to the LJW for more on this important news story...

Mike Joseph 10 years, 2 months ago

100- "Greg.... I have nipples....you wanna milk me?" in my best Robert DeNiro voice...

Joel Hood 10 years, 2 months ago

Holly Rowe doesn't really bother me - except for wearing the lavender sweater when we played a purple team. Brent Musberger was awful - he called a late 2-pt shot by KSU, "dropping a big duece" and then he screwed up the history of the Rock Chalk Chant. What an embarrassment.

Hummm... looks like there is a pattern of "journalists" working beyond their prime and putting out inferior products.

kcglowboy 10 years, 2 months ago

RockCaCO3 -- you asked how Bill went from Temple to Holly Rowe's rack in one column. You might have missed the "bullets" ( • ) that separated paragraphs ... meaning this was a "tidbits" column, intended to jump from one subject to another without having to worry about those pesky segue-ways. I would argue that this was one of Old Man Mayers' more relevant pieces in quite awhile. And (I can't believe these words are coming out of my mouth) I actually agreed with everything Bill Mayers stated in a single column.

Danny Hernandez 10 years, 2 months ago

Poor comments about Holly Rowe....I had no problem with her top, or her hug of Sherron....I thought it was in good taste and she probably thought the camera had turned away since she did it after the interview....Sherron has performed admirably and she was thanking him.....I felt the hug was one of respect and thanks...

Gee Bill, get a life and bitch about something else....like why we can't get better television coverage for the big12 like the big ten has..or the ACC....

RockCaCO3 10 years, 2 months ago

I thought that's what "Headings" were for (ie "Bills Random Vomit")

5DecadeHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

"media people should report news, not try to make it."

.

That's a very nice line, Bill.

Sadly the LJW is one of the worst when it comes to manufacturing stories that are not really news.

Blowing things out of proportion to try to garner national headlines is all the LJW seems to care about, not serving the local community. Remember the LIE the LJW told in 2008? Let me refresh your memory. The LJW manufactured a false story about Brandon Rush having a court date during the time he was scheduled to be in San Antonio for the Final Four. Remember that? Never mind that the story wasn't true. Brandon did not have a court date, but the LJW couldn't help themselves. They jumped all over this story because they knew amost every Newspaper and Media Outlet would pick up the LJW's story and run with it.

Of course, the LJW later printed a retraction. Bill? Did the LJW return the money they received by running the false story? You and I both know that didn't happen. Some of that money ended up in your paycheck Bill.

What will it be this year? What controversial last minute story will the LJW make up just to grab the headlines and make some quick extra cash? The truth won't matter. Integrity won't matter. Fact checking won't matter. Getting sources willing to go on the record won't matter, just use anonymous ones. Just find something controversial and run with it. It's the easy way to make quick bucks at the expense of college kids during the biggest moments of their lives. It's easy. Why work for your money when you can lie and get your money the easy way?

Bill? Please follow your own advice and clean up the LJW before you criticized other media outlets for their coverage. (I dare you.)

Jonathan Allison 10 years, 2 months ago

I agree with JJoel. I have no problem with Holly Rowe hugging Sherron Collins, except that she was wearing purple.

I didn't like the column by Mayer. It was too negative. Complaining about the teams inconsistency... they're the unanimous #1 team in the country right now. Then we have a media personality complaining about how fans respond to the media. And he goes on into this Tony Cornheiseresque rant about Holly Rowe, and I'm all the while thinking that he just wants attention. Well, it worked.

100 10 years, 2 months ago

jmj,

although lighthawk last week has graciously painted me as a 39 year old (Thanks Lighthawk!) I must admit my son took me to that movie & that is one of the funniest lines ever uttered on the silver screen.

What's amazing about Mayer's story really is, if Holly Rowe does indeed have lactaction mechanisms, how did this happen?

We are human after all!!!!

We are above all animals!!!!

And I quote (I think this came from the Bible), "we are man!!! And you will look up to me!!! And take care of my creatures!!!"

This passage says absolutely nothing about humans having lactation devices...

After all these years, this is extremely disheartening to learn that we have not evolved as far as we thought we had....

((either that or Holly Rowe is a less evolved alien!!!!!))

milehighhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

You want professionalism?

How about not calling Holly Rowe "kid" for starters.

"They gonna win" and "you gotta look hard" are two phrases that might be considered a wee-bit unprofessional by some as well.

Glass houses, Mr. Mayer. Glass houses.

dynamitehawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Screw that. I want to see Holly dress and dance like that girl from "Little Ms. Sunshine" during halftime, instead of any interviews. That would be sweet.

JayCeph 10 years, 2 months ago

jayhawerjoel - My wife is still going off on how Mussberger mess(-burger)ed the history of the Rock Chalk chant. Amazing... honestly. How can you even begin to want to go into the history of that thing and try to tell its origins without honestly knowing what you are talking about? I was mortified when he said something about how 'it rhymed' as the reason behind the term 'Rock Chalk.'

Nothing about the cadence, the sound of a train, the limestone in NE Kansas... nothing.

100 10 years, 2 months ago

JayCeph,

Completely agree with your wife.

Just a week earlier I gave a disertation to this Laker fan who happened to ask about the chant.

It was worthy of the Pulitzer Peace Prize, the guy was instantly turned into a lifelong Hawk fan, as well as a fan of the comet/asteroid the demolished the dinosaurs (at least most of them). I think he's in Vegas now betting his wad on a certain bipedal flapping seemingly mythilogical stocky creature that at some point tried to cross a wide ocean & later became a crimson white & blue patch on a legendary basketball team's jersey, the only team whose University, after it's downtown had been burnt by haters to the ground & leaders & children killed, pulled itself up, & built it's entire town back up, using as its cornerstone, an unbreakable, though blackened, jagged & wiser, perfectly square chunk of....

limestone...

This hotel is where Naismith stayed his first week in Lawrence... It was called Free State Hotel. It's now calle. The Eldridge. And the man who befriended him for the first week in Lawrence behind the desk at the Hotel?

Colonel Eldridge. He told Naismith everything. Everything about Limestone. Everything about what happened down there. Who did it. Everything. About the heart of our city. Who we are. And who he has joined forces with. And he was in love. With a town. With a rock. With a spirit...

Of, at the time...

And little did both Naismith & Eldridge know, they weren't in love with a bulldog, they were in love with an unnamed mascot which didn't yet exist (recall we were still the bulldogs in 1897)... Then, a week after my dissertation to LA guy, Musberger turns it into some Leave it to Beaver episode, except his explanation was even less thought out than that if at all possible.

The worse part is it took away from the actual history of it & it was essentially wrong.

Yes people did used to say "Rah Rah" all over the country, and we at KU weren't above that, but it really has very little to do with the origin of the Rock Chalk chant!

First off all it was started by a KU Science group that was on a field trip & had taken half of their trip.

Parts of the story Musberger left out. The students were studying:

(continued)

100 10 years, 2 months ago

(continued)

  1. Limestone (a chalky rock, yet one rock strong rock!)
  2. Fossils (one which happened to be a medium dinosaur/ bird fossil in the rock, which as we all know makes it even spookier, these types of creatures it was later discovered were not even present in Kansas during this time as Kansas was a shallow ocean which did have swimming dinosaurs, but raptor species would have been on land in places further West now a raptor attemting to fly or take an old fashion raft, imagine a floating tree is a possiblity that could have happened as well, but nonetheless this Poseidon-type Raptor-esque strangely Jayhawk looking Dinosaur fossil in the midst of the limestone showing up here in the middle of an ocean 100 million years ago discovered that day a hundred plus years ago was always the best part of the story)
  3. Ultimately, though they didn't know it, the students were studying music theory.

The rumblings & cadence of that chant came directly from the train tracks. Never has a more haunting or mysterious chant rumbled around a Colliseum or Gymnasium.

Like much of KU's amazing heritage the best part is when this chant actually came about, in the early years of Naismith's time here on campus, these would have been students that Naismith would have seen at least in passing (recall Naismith was the Daily devotional speaker, aka Minister & the only MD on campus in his first few years at KU) on a daily basis...

This chant is literally tied to the inventor & his great game...

It's all thanks to these science students, the fossil they found & the train they rode on...

Not sure who Musberger has gotten his information from, but somebody has simplified history to a point it never really happened!

In short Musberger's explanation of the Rock Chalk chant makes me want to wipe my fecal matter with his tie...

And let's not forget, a fossil when found is nearly always twice as dense as the rock it's found in, thus dental instruments make for a great scrape.

Thus "Rock Chalk"

the rock is the dense matter, the fossil itself that was found in the matrix.

The matrix itself is the limestone the original Jayhawk fossil was found in, the chalk, which as well is made up of little tiny fossils essentially crushed up fossillized shells, thus the calcium & chalk factor.

So during NCAA time how great is it to always be the Rock (that never got crushed) and everyone always follows the "Chalk" picks?

Well on the positive I guess Musberger can be credited for not freaking out on a fellow employees lactation devices & actually talked mostly about basketball.

100 10 years, 2 months ago

(continued)

  1. Limestone (a chalky rock, yet one rock strong rock!)
  2. Fossils (one which happened to be a medium dinosaur/ bird fossil in the rock, which as we all know makes it even spookier, these types of creatures it was later discovered were not even present in Kansas during this time as Kansas was a shallow ocean which did have swimming dinosaurs, but raptor species would have been on land in places further West now a raptor attemting to fly or take an old fashion raft, imagine a floating tree is a possiblity that could have happened as well, but nonetheless this Poseidon-type Raptor-esque strangely Jayhawk looking Dinosaur fossil in the midst of the limestone showing up here in the middle of an ocean 100 million years ago discovered that day a hundred plus years ago was always the best part of the story)
  3. Ultimately, though they didn't know it, the students were studying music theory.

The rumblings & cadence of that chant came directly from the train tracks. Never has a more haunting or mysterious chant rumbled around a Colliseum or Gymnasium.

Like much of KU's amazing heritage the best part is when this chant actually came about, in the early years of Naismith's time here on campus, these would have been students that Naismith would have seen at least in passing (recall Naismith was the Daily devotional speaker, aka Minister & the only MD on campus in his first few years at KU) on a daily basis...

This chant is literally tied to the inventor & his great game...

It's all thanks to these science students, the fossil they found & the train they rode on...

Not sure who Musberger has gotten his information from, but somebody has simplified history to a point it never really happened!

In short Musberger's explanation of the Rock Chalk chant makes me want to wipe my fecal matter with his tie...

And let's not forget, a fossil when found is nearly always twice as dense as the rock it's found in, thus dental instruments make for a great scrape.

Thus "Rock Chalk"

the rock is the dense matter, the fossil itself that was found in the matrix.

The matrix itself is the limestone the original Jayhawk fossil was found in, the chalk, which as well is made up of little tiny fossils essentially crushed up fossillized shells, thus the calcium & chalk factor.

So during NCAA time how great is it to always be the Rock (that never got crushed) and everyone always follows the "Chalk" picks?

Well on the positive I guess Musberger can be credited for not freaking out on a fellow employees lactation devices & actually talked mostly about basketball.

100 10 years, 2 months ago

Sorry for the double post KU brothers & sisters...

In honor of Mayer, I've been trying to lactate today so I can really stick it to him & I think my fingers got a bit jittery.

So far no milk, not a drop.

I'll keep you guys up to date & I'll try real hard to single post in between times at the breast pump (this thing hurts!!!!!!)

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

jaybate, i must say you made my afternoon going to war. what that says about myself i do not care to contemplate.

nevertheless, i must interject what an esteemed journalism professor from the old guard told me when i was working for the AP: 'you either want them to love it or hate it...either way, your doing something right bc they are reading it.'

what one must understand is that 'professional' sportswriting is not as easy as it seems as its nothing but cliche and robotic drivel. that said, one must lob out a piece of cheese every now and then; some like it and agree with, some get butt hurt; either way, it engages readers.

regardless, im neutral on the situation as i could care less what the LJW pens.

moving along, the sooner the four-letter network cuts ties with miss piggy, the better. my brother worked with her professionally and she is a rather disgusting person behind the light; moreover, the 'analysis' she regurgitates is no better than that of a lobotomized wildabeast.

27 hrs and counting

ku_foaf 10 years, 2 months ago

Bless Holly's heart ... she is lucky to be on TV at all. I don't mind her, but I've been trained to be superficial by years of attractive reporters.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Dear On-Line Editor,

In my on-going efforts to generate clicks for this site, may I propose one of those click eliciting polling questions placed in a side bar. The question is:

"Would you rather see the cleavage between Bill Mayer's male lactation devices, or Holly Rowe's female lactation devices, during sideline interviews of coaches?"

This will generate a lot of clicks.

AsadZ 10 years, 2 months ago

I cannot believe that LJW would allow to publish this article with personal attacks on a very respected national reporter. Author of this article owe an apology otherwise he must be fired.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

BeakofLight,

Thank you for your truthful words and for wearing the uniform and for surviving. I know that I and others look forward to hearing from you. I continue to do three things:

1) Advocate for getting you and all our soldiers, sailors, air force, marines, guardsmen, and State Dept.mercs out of combat in that part of the world ASAP.

2) Advocate for getting our government to reopen, modernize and/or staff up the VA hospital system, or get all of you men and women government paid access to all the best private medical services available, as you need them there and back home.

3) Think up and post a few funny bits for those in harm's way, or otherwise struggling with life's agonies, that may benefit from some cheering up.

Hang onto to your family and the Hawks in your heart.

Do your job.

Trust your instinct.

Keep a diary.

I promise to read your copy when you come home and rave about it.

Vaya con dios.

Lest we forget.

Rock Chalk!

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