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Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Offensive lineman commits to Kansas

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Another day, another offensive lineman from the Class of 2011 for the Kansas Jayhawks.

On Monday, Kansas coach Turner Gill learned that Damon Martin, of Arlington (Texas) High, had orally committed to KU. The news brings the total number of offensive linemen in the class to four, with three coming in the last four days.

For Martin, 6-foot-5, 265 pounds, the announcement came at a special time. Monday was his birthday. But the athletic lineman told Rivals.com that he was not waiting on one milestone to create another. Instead, he said the time just felt right.

Martin visited KU’s line camp last week and, like many members of the class who have committed to KU before him, was sold on the KU coaching staff.

“They all seemed like cool coaches to be around,” he told Rivals. “Every coach I talked to were some of the nicest people I have met. They all seemed to care a lot.”

Martin chose KU over offers from Arizona, Memphis, New Mexico, Tulsa, Utah and Utah State. Though he has played both tackle and guard in high school, most analysts project him to be a tackle in college.

Martin joins fellow offensive linemen Bryan Peters, Nick Johnson — both orally committed last Friday — and Travis Bodenstein, along with running back Dreamius Smith, quarterback Michael Cummings, linebacker Jake Love and defensive backs Alex Matlock, Chris Robinson and Victor Simmons on KU’s 2011 commitment list so far.

Previous reports indicated that the KU coaches have told prospects that they plan to sign five offensive linemen in the Class of 2011. Things could change, of course, but, if that holds true, there may be room for just one more in the 2011 class.

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Randy Bombardier 3 years, 9 months ago

Could we put a banner headline on this page with the number of days left before our first football game? Our a clock counting down would be nice.

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Randy Bombardier 3 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, considering a 12-1 season, an Orange-bowl victory, Todd Reesing on the cover of SI, finishing the season what, ranked fourth? Up to number 2 before the Errorhead game with MissSue. You'd think we would bust out on recruiting. What a fiasco. Such promise and then yech.

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azalum 3 years, 9 months ago

don't give me to much credit, it was right down the street from me. we have had a pretty good run with hawks out this was. this year, hoops in vegas!

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100 3 years, 9 months ago

Nice memory azalum, it was Minnesota, and it was still an...

A's's whoopin....

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100 3 years, 9 months ago

"A year ago at this time, Kansas had received commitments from just two, in three star recruits Ricki Herod and Jeremiah Edwards."

This was from Rock Chalk Talk (thanks DevilHawk).

We are at 9 solid (BIG) recruits and counting.

Last year, fresh off a dismantling of Houston in a bowl game, and a year removed from our Orange bowl victory and a 12-1 season, including receiving one final #1 vote in the AP poll...... We had two recruits signed.

Two.

Right now we have nine.

Nine. Most of them huge.

Now we are loading up a line bigger than Pikes Peak, an old mountain you might have heard of that used to reside in Kansas before the state line of Colorado was certified.

Gill knows: Get a big line. A fullback. A couple speedy receivers. A big tight end. And your 4 star kids suddenly look like 5 star studs.

Gill and his staff knows the drills to run to get those big men ready for primetime. With 6'5" 275 pound lineman, you hit hard and let your fullback & tailback score 15 yard runs sleepwalking.

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stravinsky 3 years, 9 months ago

Sort of a catch-22 you know. Complaining you can't win games with average-ish recruits, when it's tough to get above average recruits when you can't win games. Somehow some posters expect one of the two to be easy to change.

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jaybate 3 years, 9 months ago

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azalum 3 years, 9 months ago

i was able to get the phone transcripts from the public information act in regards to coach gill and his recruiting. this is how most of them go

tg: hey it's coach gill recruit: i'm sorry who tg: coach gill from kansas rc: of hey coach, are you new? did coach self go to the nba? i didn't know 'pop' retired. he'll do a good job with the spurs. you know i don't play basketball tg: no no no we have a football team as well rc: futbol? tg; noooooooo american football! hey listen i see the schools that are after you and i was wondering if you wanted to come to ku instead of living in tucson, memphis, el paso, or albaquerque for the next four years, and going to their crap schools with poor facilities, do you want to come to lawrence? rc: oh thank gawd! i didn't want to go to those places. sure i'll come tg; ok, welcome to the family. just send up your letter of intent and you anti-drug form (quickly hangs up the phone) rc: wait, what!

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100 3 years, 9 months ago

Nice link DevilHawk:

Wow another 6'5", 275 pounder!

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100 3 years, 9 months ago

DevilHawk: You get it. Big (BIG) can be the same thing....

This kind of size can bring in some 4 and 5 star specialties....

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DevilHawk 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, according to Rivals we have the fifth OL position filled today by Luke Luhrsen from Wheaton, IL. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Luke-Luhrsen-107368;_ylt=AgIPz4KigTGqV5U600HJHXfBsJB4

It will be interesting to see if Gill's staff uses this as leverage as recruiting continues.

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100 3 years, 9 months ago

We have never had size like this for an O line.

If there's anybody who knows about the importance of 6'5" guys on the offensive line, it's the head coach we now have that was part of three national championships as an assistant coach, who, by the way, was in charge of training the quarterbacks to hang out behind the 6'3" 275 pound studs at NU in the early 90's.

KU fans, don't sweat the trolls at the top of all this. If we are recruiting 6'5" big guys, Gill has a reason...

If you want the reason, it's right here:

We are going to be good. We will be able to run. We will be able to pass.

Defensively we will have athletes so the TTechs of the world wont come in and shred our secondary.

Rock Chalk, Coach Gill:

Recruit, recruit, recruit...

(by the way for all the trolls, we already have beat out OU, KSU and MU for recruits this year, lol)

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NebraskaJayhawk 3 years, 9 months ago

http://theshiver.com/category/kansas-football/football-recruiting/kansas-football-recruits/2011-football-recruits/

We're recruiting a dude named "Wonderful Terrific Monds II". That's funny stuff right there, I don't care who you are.

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Jaminrawk 3 years, 9 months ago

I love the delusional KU fans that complain every time we get a commit. Apparently they didn't notice that KU football has been mediocre-to-poor minus one season in 2007. Turner Gill has 10 recruits verballed and it isn't even July. KU did just come off of a major scandal with Mangino paired with a bad year on the field. Sorry we aren't stealing recruits from Notre Dame, Texas and Florida. KU needs to consistently win games before you're gonna see us win many battles with other perennial bowl teams ... even MU at this point. Still as much as you complain, we did snag a kid away from Stanford last year and another from MU so I don't know why many of you act like Turner hasn't gotten recruits offered by good programs ...

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stravinsky 3 years, 9 months ago

In complete agreement with justanotherfan.

People somehow expect us to all of a sudden be able to steal recruits away from Oklahoma, Texas, and USC. (Okay, USC... maybe that's actually a possibility at this point). It's just not going to happen yet. The powerhouse schools have a winning tradition, rabid fanbases, huge TV exposure, and the potential to contend for a BCS bowl in any given year. We have... none of those things, actually.

Things are just going to take time. Every coach in America works hard. Every coach in America spends endless hours recruiting. Things aren't going to change overnight. And one Orange Bowl season isn't going to change everything.

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Phoggin_Loud 3 years, 9 months ago

Remember the Glory Days of Nebraska?? The ones that Gill played in??

Most of their lineman were from 8-man teams in Nebraska.

You can't teach size, but you can teach technique.

This is the biggest group of lineman recruits that I can remember...and games are won and lost "in the trenches".

I would also like to see Gill beat out "larger" schools, but I would rather see him find the talent that will lead KU to become a perennial winner, regardless of who they beat out in recruiting battles.

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azalum 3 years, 9 months ago

good news everyone, i just got permission to open a restaurant so all us posters can hang out together. i don't have much experience at being a chef in a restaurant but i did cook a decent meal in my home a couple of times, the dog loved it. even though some places thought they wanted me to cook for them they eventually decided against me. the food is not going to be good for a couple of years because of the ingredients i'm using to cook with are not very good compared to the other restaurants. but hopefully i can cook'em up and they will taste ok. but what i need you guys to do in the mean time is to keep coming to my restaurant and if the first course isn't very good i still need you to eat it. same with the second, third, and fourth course. oh and when the unbiased food critic comes in and says the food is not that good please post about how his unbiased opinion is wrong and that i know how to cook poor ingredients

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justanotherfan 3 years, 9 months ago

The way some of the posters on here are down on Coach Gill, I would suspect that even if he were to win 10 games next year, most would still complain.

He's beating out solid programs for solid players. We aren't a powerhouse right now, so it's unlikely that we will beat out powerhouse programs for players.

The former regime NEVER beat out powerhouse programs for players, and a lot of the comments said "we don't need those prima donnas at KU." Now Coach Gill comes in and every recruit he signs people say "well look who we beat out, a bunch of nobodies." Make up your mind people. Can you say double standard?

There was a certain cornerback (two star) a few years back that KU beat out Arizona, Tulsa, Baylor, K-State and Wyoming for. This young Texan came in and by his junior year was the best player on a 12-1 Orange Bowl team and a first round draft pick.

There was another Texan (three star WR) that had offers from Boise State, Houston, Tulsa, Iowa, Oklahoma State, Missouri and TCU. He chose Kansas. He left as the all time leading wide receiver.

A third Texan (three star QB) had a scholarship offer from Duke. That's it. Northwestern, Purdue and TCU recruited him, but didn't offer. He picked KU. He left as the all time leading passer in school history.

And apparently, this was okay for Mangino. I was probably the most critical of Mangino's recruiting out of everyone on this board. I thought he aimed too low on all his recruits. He rarely pursued any four or five star players. Gill has already netted Brandon Bourbon (four star RB) for this season, and has verbals from 8 three star prospects for next season. Also, Gill is pursuing several four star players for next year.

Coach Gill has been on the job a little over six months and I get the sense that some are hoping that he fails. I hope that isn't true.

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Mark Lindrud 3 years, 9 months ago

We are getting good solid players who have true talent which is obvious. A new coach and staff have lots of blue chip recruits doing the wait and see game. We have great facilities, but they will wait and see to find out how good of a program are we. We need to win and go to back to bowl game to truly compete for the major athletes. For now I am sure Coach Gill will go after the best kids possible and winning will create more trust in what he and his staff are doing.

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Kyle Cornish 3 years, 9 months ago

Orbiter... Pure genius. Turner Gill said recruit, recruit, recruit. So that must mean we will beat Florida, Alabama and USC for ever top player. Always. Every kid must want to hear from Kansas. I can't wrap my head around why we aren't offering and getting the best kids. It is a a simple process. We show them our 50,000 seat stadium in a picture that after halftime has 30,000 people. Then we show them how nice that track looks. Then we tell them all about that one time we went to the Orange Bowl. How do all the best kids not want to hear an offer from us? I don't get it! We have a new coach, and that means everything changes immediately. Never mind that we didn't go to a bowl last year. We were supposed to be good, so that means everything. If we don't get the best kids, there is no chance because there is just no way a coaching staff could coach a kid and make him better.

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orbiter 3 years, 9 months ago

I agree with azalum, we really need to start getting guys that KState and Mizzou offer, and until then we need to look at our shoes and feel inadequate. Those are two programs far and away better than the likes of Utah and Florida State.

I mean KState nearly beat Louisiana-Lafayette--IN LAFAYETTE! That would have been one for the ages. Mizzou beats us every year by 50+ points on their way to BCS bowls, I think. Bottom line, KState and Mizzou are so much better than Utah, Florida State, let alone a program like Arizona (sure they went to a bowl and are borderline top 25 next year, but...).

Turner Gill can't trick me into optimism with these lineman with their size and ability and decent offers. I won't be fooled! Until we supplant OU and NU as a football power I will sit here and not be impressed. It's fun for me. I like putting on the breaks to sit in a poo poo pile of pity just knowing my team can't cut the mustard. It is why I like sports.

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Kyle Cornish 3 years, 9 months ago

Have you not given any thought to the fact that those are the SCHOOLS ON OUR LEVEL???

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azalum 3 years, 9 months ago

decentr, another big guy. the glass of football kool-aid is poured but i'm not drinking yet. when you look at the other schools listed on these guys interested kansas has been the best school/program/facilities/option. and don't tell me florida state because not only have they not been that good but it's a long way from california. when we start to get the guys that also have interest in a school like ou, nu, heck even ksu or mu i will take a drink.

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Andy Hess 3 years, 9 months ago

so does Tulsa just offer EVERYONE? geez...

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