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Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Offensive lineman commits to Kansas

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Another day, another offensive lineman from the Class of 2011 for the Kansas Jayhawks.

On Monday, Kansas coach Turner Gill learned that Damon Martin, of Arlington (Texas) High, had orally committed to KU. The news brings the total number of offensive linemen in the class to four, with three coming in the last four days.

For Martin, 6-foot-5, 265 pounds, the announcement came at a special time. Monday was his birthday. But the athletic lineman told Rivals.com that he was not waiting on one milestone to create another. Instead, he said the time just felt right.

Martin visited KU’s line camp last week and, like many members of the class who have committed to KU before him, was sold on the KU coaching staff.

“They all seemed like cool coaches to be around,” he told Rivals. “Every coach I talked to were some of the nicest people I have met. They all seemed to care a lot.”

Martin chose KU over offers from Arizona, Memphis, New Mexico, Tulsa, Utah and Utah State. Though he has played both tackle and guard in high school, most analysts project him to be a tackle in college.

Martin joins fellow offensive linemen Bryan Peters, Nick Johnson — both orally committed last Friday — and Travis Bodenstein, along with running back Dreamius Smith, quarterback Michael Cummings, linebacker Jake Love and defensive backs Alex Matlock, Chris Robinson and Victor Simmons on KU’s 2011 commitment list so far.

Previous reports indicated that the KU coaches have told prospects that they plan to sign five offensive linemen in the Class of 2011. Things could change, of course, but, if that holds true, there may be room for just one more in the 2011 class.

Comments

Andy Hess 4 years ago

so does Tulsa just offer EVERYONE? geez...

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Kyle Cornish 4 years ago

Have you not given any thought to the fact that those are the SCHOOLS ON OUR LEVEL???

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orbiter 4 years ago

I agree with azalum, we really need to start getting guys that KState and Mizzou offer, and until then we need to look at our shoes and feel inadequate. Those are two programs far and away better than the likes of Utah and Florida State.

I mean KState nearly beat Louisiana-Lafayette--IN LAFAYETTE! That would have been one for the ages. Mizzou beats us every year by 50+ points on their way to BCS bowls, I think. Bottom line, KState and Mizzou are so much better than Utah, Florida State, let alone a program like Arizona (sure they went to a bowl and are borderline top 25 next year, but...).

Turner Gill can't trick me into optimism with these lineman with their size and ability and decent offers. I won't be fooled! Until we supplant OU and NU as a football power I will sit here and not be impressed. It's fun for me. I like putting on the breaks to sit in a poo poo pile of pity just knowing my team can't cut the mustard. It is why I like sports.

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Kyle Cornish 4 years ago

Orbiter... Pure genius. Turner Gill said recruit, recruit, recruit. So that must mean we will beat Florida, Alabama and USC for ever top player. Always. Every kid must want to hear from Kansas. I can't wrap my head around why we aren't offering and getting the best kids. It is a a simple process. We show them our 50,000 seat stadium in a picture that after halftime has 30,000 people. Then we show them how nice that track looks. Then we tell them all about that one time we went to the Orange Bowl. How do all the best kids not want to hear an offer from us? I don't get it! We have a new coach, and that means everything changes immediately. Never mind that we didn't go to a bowl last year. We were supposed to be good, so that means everything. If we don't get the best kids, there is no chance because there is just no way a coaching staff could coach a kid and make him better.

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Mark Lindrud 4 years ago

We are getting good solid players who have true talent which is obvious. A new coach and staff have lots of blue chip recruits doing the wait and see game. We have great facilities, but they will wait and see to find out how good of a program are we. We need to win and go to back to bowl game to truly compete for the major athletes. For now I am sure Coach Gill will go after the best kids possible and winning will create more trust in what he and his staff are doing.

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justanotherfan 4 years ago

The way some of the posters on here are down on Coach Gill, I would suspect that even if he were to win 10 games next year, most would still complain.

He's beating out solid programs for solid players. We aren't a powerhouse right now, so it's unlikely that we will beat out powerhouse programs for players.

The former regime NEVER beat out powerhouse programs for players, and a lot of the comments said "we don't need those prima donnas at KU." Now Coach Gill comes in and every recruit he signs people say "well look who we beat out, a bunch of nobodies." Make up your mind people. Can you say double standard?

There was a certain cornerback (two star) a few years back that KU beat out Arizona, Tulsa, Baylor, K-State and Wyoming for. This young Texan came in and by his junior year was the best player on a 12-1 Orange Bowl team and a first round draft pick.

There was another Texan (three star WR) that had offers from Boise State, Houston, Tulsa, Iowa, Oklahoma State, Missouri and TCU. He chose Kansas. He left as the all time leading wide receiver.

A third Texan (three star QB) had a scholarship offer from Duke. That's it. Northwestern, Purdue and TCU recruited him, but didn't offer. He picked KU. He left as the all time leading passer in school history.

And apparently, this was okay for Mangino. I was probably the most critical of Mangino's recruiting out of everyone on this board. I thought he aimed too low on all his recruits. He rarely pursued any four or five star players. Gill has already netted Brandon Bourbon (four star RB) for this season, and has verbals from 8 three star prospects for next season. Also, Gill is pursuing several four star players for next year.

Coach Gill has been on the job a little over six months and I get the sense that some are hoping that he fails. I hope that isn't true.

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Mark Lindrud 4 years ago

You are comparing a football coach to a restaurant? Seriously? A huge difference is once we get the players we need the "food" will be better. We need to win and guess what the food will be great and we will come back for more food. Once we get the right ingredients the restaurant will be really good.

Now if we win games and go to a bowl game then the food the new chef is making is pretty darn good. With hard work the KU restaurant will be pretty good and I believe Coach Gill will be able to get the right ingredients together. I am pretty hungry for some KU Football.

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KCHawk81 4 years ago

Excellent analogy, azalum. Are the other teams in the Big 12 the food, or are they the restaurants that we're supposed to go to while we're waiting for you to learn to cook? I think I'm following that we, as fans, are the restaurant patrons...right? So here we are with our restaurant hats and our restaurant shirts, our tickets to the restaurant and our degrees from the restaurant, our Saturdays scheduled around the restaurant and our university academic programs being supplemented by income from the restaurant. Yes, this all seems very clear so far.

I, for one, am not eating there until the restaurant is successful, even though it never really has been before and I ate there anyway. I never support something until I'm certain everyone else likes it first. Sure, everyone hates me. But is being a fan worth eating some bad food? Nope. I'll be the one sitting in the corner, by the kitchen, scowling at everyone as they eat.

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Phoggin_Loud 4 years ago

Remember the Glory Days of Nebraska?? The ones that Gill played in??

Most of their lineman were from 8-man teams in Nebraska.

You can't teach size, but you can teach technique.

This is the biggest group of lineman recruits that I can remember...and games are won and lost "in the trenches".

I would also like to see Gill beat out "larger" schools, but I would rather see him find the talent that will lead KU to become a perennial winner, regardless of who they beat out in recruiting battles.

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gchawk 4 years ago

Great points. I know you all remember Nolan Cromwell, he played 8 man football at tiny Ransom, Ks. KU took a chance on this guy when most of his offers were from the area juco's and I believe he turned into a pretty decent college (and pro) player !

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stravinsky 4 years ago

In complete agreement with justanotherfan.

People somehow expect us to all of a sudden be able to steal recruits away from Oklahoma, Texas, and USC. (Okay, USC... maybe that's actually a possibility at this point). It's just not going to happen yet. The powerhouse schools have a winning tradition, rabid fanbases, huge TV exposure, and the potential to contend for a BCS bowl in any given year. We have... none of those things, actually.

Things are just going to take time. Every coach in America works hard. Every coach in America spends endless hours recruiting. Things aren't going to change overnight. And one Orange Bowl season isn't going to change everything.

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Jaminrawk 4 years ago

I love the delusional KU fans that complain every time we get a commit. Apparently they didn't notice that KU football has been mediocre-to-poor minus one season in 2007. Turner Gill has 10 recruits verballed and it isn't even July. KU did just come off of a major scandal with Mangino paired with a bad year on the field. Sorry we aren't stealing recruits from Notre Dame, Texas and Florida. KU needs to consistently win games before you're gonna see us win many battles with other perennial bowl teams ... even MU at this point. Still as much as you complain, we did snag a kid away from Stanford last year and another from MU so I don't know why many of you act like Turner hasn't gotten recruits offered by good programs ...

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NebraskaJayhawk 4 years ago

http://theshiver.com/category/kansas-football/football-recruiting/kansas-football-recruits/2011-football-recruits/

We're recruiting a dude named "Wonderful Terrific Monds II". That's funny stuff right there, I don't care who you are.

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100 4 years ago

We have never had size like this for an O line.

If there's anybody who knows about the importance of 6'5" guys on the offensive line, it's the head coach we now have that was part of three national championships as an assistant coach, who, by the way, was in charge of training the quarterbacks to hang out behind the 6'3" 275 pound studs at NU in the early 90's.

KU fans, don't sweat the trolls at the top of all this. If we are recruiting 6'5" big guys, Gill has a reason...

If you want the reason, it's right here:

We are going to be good. We will be able to run. We will be able to pass.

Defensively we will have athletes so the TTechs of the world wont come in and shred our secondary.

Rock Chalk, Coach Gill:

Recruit, recruit, recruit...

(by the way for all the trolls, we already have beat out OU, KSU and MU for recruits this year, lol)

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DevilHawk 4 years ago

Well, according to Rivals we have the fifth OL position filled today by Luke Luhrsen from Wheaton, IL. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Luke-Luhrsen-107368;_ylt=AgIPz4KigTGqV5U600HJHXfBsJB4

It will be interesting to see if Gill's staff uses this as leverage as recruiting continues.

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DevilHawk 4 years ago

Also, the staff can now show their idea of the o-line to the QBs and running backs that they are recruiting. A large and strong o-line in the same class should give them some faith that they won't get stuffed or sacked on a regular basis and will actually be able to showcase some of their talent.

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Phoggin_Loud 4 years ago

Nice job, DevilHawk.

You can't teach 6'5''!!

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100 4 years ago

DevilHawk: You get it. Big (BIG) can be the same thing....

This kind of size can bring in some 4 and 5 star specialties....

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100 4 years ago

Nice link DevilHawk:

Wow another 6'5", 275 pounder!

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truefan 4 years ago

Mangino made a living off picking up "under the radar" talent. Todd Reesing, Aqib Talib, Dez Briscoe, Derick Fine.

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jaybate 4 years ago

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stravinsky 4 years ago

Sort of a catch-22 you know. Complaining you can't win games with average-ish recruits, when it's tough to get above average recruits when you can't win games. Somehow some posters expect one of the two to be easy to change.

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100 4 years ago

"A year ago at this time, Kansas had received commitments from just two, in three star recruits Ricki Herod and Jeremiah Edwards."

This was from Rock Chalk Talk (thanks DevilHawk).

We are at 9 solid (BIG) recruits and counting.

Last year, fresh off a dismantling of Houston in a bowl game, and a year removed from our Orange bowl victory and a 12-1 season, including receiving one final #1 vote in the AP poll...... We had two recruits signed.

Two.

Right now we have nine.

Nine. Most of them huge.

Now we are loading up a line bigger than Pikes Peak, an old mountain you might have heard of that used to reside in Kansas before the state line of Colorado was certified.

Gill knows: Get a big line. A fullback. A couple speedy receivers. A big tight end. And your 4 star kids suddenly look like 5 star studs.

Gill and his staff knows the drills to run to get those big men ready for primetime. With 6'5" 275 pound lineman, you hit hard and let your fullback & tailback score 15 yard runs sleepwalking.

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DevilHawk 4 years ago

100: Scroll up and you'll notice that I didn't post the Rock Chalk Talk link - truefan did.

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100 4 years ago

Nice memory azalum, it was Minnesota, and it was still an...

A's's whoopin....

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Randy Bombardier 4 years ago

Yeah, considering a 12-1 season, an Orange-bowl victory, Todd Reesing on the cover of SI, finishing the season what, ranked fourth? Up to number 2 before the Errorhead game with MissSue. You'd think we would bust out on recruiting. What a fiasco. Such promise and then yech.

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Randy Bombardier 4 years ago

Could we put a banner headline on this page with the number of days left before our first football game? Our a clock counting down would be nice.

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