Saturday, June 12, 2010


What’s next for KU?


The Big Ten is stopping at 12 schools for now, and the Big 12 is hoping to hang on to 10 members. Ten means 12, and 12 means 10. Oh, and Big means small, considering 16-member conferences are all the rage.

The confusing names make about as much sense as the concept of sending student-athletes all over the country to play games, in some cases witnessed by small crowds. For Kansas University, it’s a case of join the madness or get stranded.

KU stands now where it has stood all along, which is hoping that the Big 12 remains a viable conference. And how does it remain so? If Texas stays on board.

Doesn’t this all come down to Texas?

“I don’t want to put any kind of stake in the ground in terms of what all the members want to do together, but I appreciate your question,” Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said on a teleconference Friday evening.

If the Big 12 falls apart, which could happen as soon as Tuesday, what then becomes a realistic possibility for Kansas?

Becoming a member of the Pac-10. Here’s how that could happen: Texas moves to the Pac-10, but doesn’t take Baylor with it. Texas A&M; chooses to go to the SEC instead of the Pac-10, thereby opening up a 16th spot.

A source inside a BCS Conference school’s athletic department said that Stanford, among the nation’s most elite universities, wants the Pac-10 to extend an invitation to Kansas.

Utah has not been invited to the Pac-10 yet, but certainly would accept if invited.

There are those who believe the Pac-10’s final invitation, in the event Texas A&M; is not interested in heading west, could come down to a square off between Utah and Kansas. Here’s guessing Kansas wins that stare-down, even though Utah has the geographic advantage.

That would mean Kansas splitting from its two most intense rivals — Kansas State and Missouri — certainly not ideal, but better than getting left outside the BCS landscape.

The Big 12 continuing as a 10-member league certainly suits the needs of Kansas far better than a move to a conference two time zones in the distance. High school basketball recruits will be sleeping when Kansas is drubbing Oregon State on the road. Beebe’s counting on the 10 members believing the TV dollars will pack a loud-enough punch to keep the league together.

In the event the Big 12 falls apart and Kansas is not invited to the Pac-10, maybe the SEC wants to expand by welcoming Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Texas A&M;, forming a basketball conference with coaches named Bill Self, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Bruce Pearl, Frank Martin, Mike Anderson and Mark Turgeon.

The Big East already has 16 members, but only eight football schools, which makes Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri attractive possible additions at some point.

Here’s hoping sanity rules the day and the Big 12 stays together as a 10-member league. Staying at 10 has its advantages, including a football schedule in which everyone plays everyone every year, thereby doubling KU’s chances of one day upsetting Texas.

Making sense won’t make it happen. It must make dollars.


hewn 7 years, 11 months ago

I may be really dense, but I just don't get it. Of course it comes down to dollars, but just as you said, most of the possible scenarios involve more travel and smaller crowds, so how exactly does that help the cash flow? Somebody please explain this to me because I feel like my brain is about to eat itself alive.

DevilHawk 7 years, 11 months ago

It keeps KU relevant in basketball and enables KU to keep building the football program in a conference with an automatic BCS bid.

That is far better than being in a non-BCS conference.

Of course, if we were smart, then we would also petition all the states involved to start building high-speed rail lines connecting the major cities.

ilikestuff 7 years, 11 months ago

Good article... Pac-10 is better than nothing but I agree, going west is least desirable relative to watching games at midnight.

Here's hoping UT decides it's big enough to sit at home. The bad thing, if that happens, is that it knows it's the only thing keeping the conference intact and continues to hedge every transaction towards making it more powerful, still.

If anything destroys/ed the Big 12 it wasn't UNL or CU it was UT.

CaramelMacchMan 7 years, 11 months ago

All of a sudden, KU, KSU, Mizzou and A&M makes sense in SEC.

Why any of the conference not looking into how KU and KSU basketball program would fill their basketball stadiums? I know TV contract is bigger but how about their ticket rev.

I mean KU and KSU would play every team at least once a year. KU playing at Alabama or Auburn or LSU or Goergia or Miss or miss st. south Carolina will give them packed house.

selfishhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

This makes no sense if you are following this at all. Keegan just can't let go of the past - K-State is toast. KU better hope they don't miss the PAC 10 opportunity.

Dennis Mahorney 7 years, 11 months ago

Stanfords got our back! (kicks dirt).....we're sorry, about trying to steal your coach.

Dennis Mahorney 7 years, 11 months ago

Stanfords got our back! (kicks dirt).....we're sorry, about trying to steal your coach.

Spencer Goff 7 years, 11 months ago

I've already gone past the mourning stage, can we just put the Big 12 to rest so we don't have to beg Texas for jack squat.

I'm tired of the talk and speculation. The Big 12 probably will survive because, quite frankly, why leave a conference you control? Here's hoping that one or two of the Oklahoma schools bail forcing the move.

I'm tired of being Texas' bitch, I don't care how much television audience and revenue they are worth. Have some pride, we are a valuable asset to any conference, if they are too stupid to see it, then we wouldn't want in that conference.

dillybobjoe 7 years, 11 months ago

We have pride, but pride doesn't get us an automatic bid to BCS. and they aren't stupid they are greedy, and texas has alot more alumni and a much bigger fan base than really any other team in the big 12, so naturally they get alot more TV audience

Hank Cross 7 years, 11 months ago

Utah can go nowhere w/o BYU due to power of LDS in that state. The P10 doesn't want BYU for cultural/religious bigotry reasons - same goes for Baylor. If A&M goes to SEC, we're on our way.

gng007 7 years, 11 months ago

This is not true. As a long-time Utah resident, inactive mormon, Utah undergraduate, and current Utah law student, I can tell you that the University of Utah is not "tied" to BYU or mormonism in any way. In fact, it is quite the opposite - the UofU has every intention to break that stereotype in any way possible. Mormons within the State know this, some appreciate the University for remaining as secular as possible, others gravitate to BYU for "remaining faithful" or whatever.

In any case, my point is only that Utah is a prime candidate for the Pac-10 should A&M head to the SEC, and BYU plays no part in that. I believe if it comes down to Kansas vs. Utah for a spot in the Pac 10 Utah will get the spot.

DevilHawk 7 years, 11 months ago

In terms of geography, Utah makes more sense. However, KU brings much more recognition and attention than Utah does. (I can't speak as to the culture at UU.)

utahjayhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

You're exactly right, gng. Oxcal was spewing the same misinformation on other threads. He/she is clueless on these assertions. I, too, live in SLC and you accurately laid out the dynamic between the "U" and the "Y". Anybody close to this situation knows that Utah remains a possible player in the situation. In the end, though, I believe KU's name/status/image wins over the Utes, especially with what we bring in hoops.

hawksince51 7 years, 11 months ago

Good job of laying it all out for us. So, like it or not, our fate seems is tied first to Texas and then to Tex A&M. Nothing new here--that happened when the Big 12 was formed.

Kyle Helmer 7 years, 11 months ago

People need to realize that if we go to the Pac 16, we are only looking at 4 games per year against the Pac 16 West, and only 2 of those would be on the road. So we would be looking at road games against Arizona, Arizona St., and then 2 more road games against either UCLA, USC, Oregon, Oregon St, Wash, Wash ST. They would rotate the teams on an annual basis. That's not much more travel than we already do. Of course our other road games would be against OU, OSU, UT, TTU, CU. In football, we would only have 2 long distance road games per year. I don't think this is as big a deal as it is being made out to be.

number1jayhawker 7 years, 11 months ago

How could they rotate every year? That would mean there would not be a home & away series with each team. If you play a Stanford at home then it just seems logical to play them in Palo Alto the next year.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

You also play quite a few more games in basketball....

There are other sports, remember.

Steve Brown 7 years, 11 months ago

thanks for clarification, this makes sense and should quiet all the fear mongers of flying to Wash or SoCal every week... if invited we should go..

Scott Smetana 7 years, 11 months ago

Easy KSA... Although I agree Gray-Little likely knows nothing of sports. Nice job being in Europe during the last Big 12 meeting.

The Colorado Springs newspaper today hints at Air Force and BYU joining the Big 12 should Texas decide to hold it together. If it all collapses, I'd LOVE the SEC!
I looked at the Mountain West Conference teams last night... yuck. Missouri Valley... worse. C-USA... pathetic. Not many options out there.

jhox 7 years, 11 months ago

If the Pac 10 opportunity doesn't open up, I still believe the next most likely scenario would be KU (and possibly KSU) to the ACC. That's assuming the SEC would decide to super size, and take A&M, Florida State, Miami and one other school like Georgia Tech. The ACC would then look to save itself, and being primarily a basketball conference KU, and maybe KSU would make sense, along with a few Big East teams.

Personally, I'd favor the SEC over any other option. Though that's unlikely to happen for us, I think we'd be a great fit. We wouldn't be seen as too threatening to the football powers in that conference, who already have to play a meat grinder schedule, and the addition of KU (to UK, Florida, Tennessee and Vanderbilt) would make them arguably the best basketball conference in America to go along with their unofficial title of best football conference. We could play UK, Vandy, and Tennessee twice a year in basketball, and Florida at least once. That would would be very appealing to the TV networks.

It would also keep football recruiting doors open for KU in the South, and with our current coaching staff's obvious ability to recruit, our football program could continue to get better.

Finally, the SEC would make the most geographic sense, especially since the Big 10 doesn't appear to be an option. I still believe MU will end up in the Pac 10, but the SEC would be a very good fit for them as well, and it would be great to keep that rivalry alive if that were to happen.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

One line of thought floating out there regarding the SEC is that Florida may not want Florida St and Miami to join. They currently enjoy the ability to tell recruits in Florida that they can play in the "best" conference in the country to which Miami and FSU cannot boast. Florida likely would not want to lose that recruiting tool.

Just speculation, but interesting none the less.

jhox 7 years, 11 months ago

Correction...I meant to say I still believe MU will end up in the Big 10...

Jayhacker 7 years, 11 months ago

If the ultimate outcome of all this maneuvering is, as some suggest, 4 "mega-conferences" with 16 schools each, with the goal of those 64 telling the NCAA to take a hike and conducting their own championships in all sports, doesn't it make sense that KU needs to be in one of the conferences that will "morph" into one of the "Big 4"? If that's the case, we need to do whatever it takes to get into the Pac10 or SEC immediately. Let's forget all the talk about pride, tradition, and travel budgets...we all know what college sports has become; now we're only quibbling over the price! To do otherwise relegates us to the trash-heap of an emasculated NCAA, which will be reduced to a meaningless collection of FCS and D-2 schools.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

Yeah... not sure anyone is arguing for us to NOT join one of those leagues under that scenario....

But glad you were able to work that out on paper.....

How bout this one: if you're starving and someone puts a steak in front of you, should you eat it?? Hmmm, ponder that for a while.

Scott Smetana 7 years, 11 months ago

jhox, nice post. I like your thoughts. I also think there's 0 chance of getting into the Big 10. I would have liked that. So is this our current wish list?

  1. Big 12 hold it together, replace CU/NU
  2. SEC West
  3. Pac 16/20 East
  4. ACC West
  5. Mountain West w/ KSU

Whatever happens, I'd love to see Mizzery get screwed. Although they may not be ulitmately be to blame for the destruction of the league (Texas, Neb), they started all this!! Why were they crying about not getting enough $$?. What have they done?!

Joey Meyer 7 years, 11 months ago

I understand the Mountain West has its share of bottom dwellers, but if we merged the best of the Mountain West and Big 12 (what's left), we would get a fairly decent football league:

From Big 12: Kansas, Kansas State, Mizzery, Iowa State, Baylor From MWC: Utah, BYU, TCU, Boise State, UNLV

And pick up whoever else is interested (ie: Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, etc). It's not the former Big 12, but it does have the makings of a strong football conference (At least four BCS appearance schools in the last few years), as well as a decent basketball conference (six schools in the tournament), and that's with only the ten teams listed. My impression is that this is also an attainable outcome.

jchief40 7 years, 11 months ago

If Lew is the Lame Duck then you are The Wrong One... dangit I'm never good at those.. whatever you are so wrong.

William Weissbeck 7 years, 11 months ago

I go back to the early '70's in memories of the Big 8. For some reason, MU thought of themselves as a little different than the rest, a little better. Never quite understood why, other than they tended to drink more liquor (a lot more) while we drank beer. If they thought they were smarter, I guess that explains why the state of Missouri is in such great shape. CU also thought of themselves differently. It was tied to the mountains and the fact that kids went there to be cool in a cool place. None of the other Big 8 laid claim to that. And now OU for all its bravado is like Michigan in the Big 10 - without a tie to either Neb. or UT it is pretty irrelevant.

John Mueller 7 years, 11 months ago

Mr Keegan, well done. The rest of the LJW coverage this morning is about as relevant as our Chancellor.

Here is my take: The Pac 10 slot is far and away our best option, but I am still puzzled at A&M's reluctance to take that slot? Why would they want to leave Texas and go to SEC?

Here's hoping it happens, but the word here in Houston this morning is that AD Byrne is fighting hard to take the Pac-10 offer.

I think there is ZERO chance that the SEC is interested in KU. The SEC is a FOOTBALL conference. They already have Ole Miss and MSU, they don't need us.

I think our next best option is the Big East. It's a GREAT basketball conference and with regards to football, frankly, it gives us a better chance to compete than the Big 12.

I don't care what happens to K-State or Missery and I wish the KU leadership would feel the same way. It is every man for himself and, at least from the appearance of things, which is not always accurate, our leadership has done an incredibly poor job of creating options for our Jayhawks. Wake up folks!

I love Missery's public remarks about the Big 12 this morning. WE LOVE THE BIG 12 cuz we just got left at the alter! Hillarious and pathetic all at the same time.

Rock Chalk!

Robert Brock 7 years, 11 months ago

I agree that KU would be a poor fit in the SEC. The SEC schools, for the most part, are uninterested in hoops. It's all football, all of the time. And KU has a small, worn-out old football stadium and nothing much to show for success the last forty years.

DevilHawk 7 years, 11 months ago

That's because KU didn't put any effort in the football program until recently. With the administration recognizing the importance of a high caliber football program in addition to our basketball program, look to see a lot of effort spent to improve it.

Andy Tweedy 7 years, 11 months ago

Spot on, DevilHawk! I blame previous administrations for this predicament.

1jhawk2 7 years, 11 months ago

Forget about the Pac-10. Do you really think A&M will pass on an opportunity to stick with their TX brothers? The AD will convince the President of the value in the move west and now that reports are out that KU has been listed as "real" target, A&M will stick with the South group.

It's hard to come to terms with the break up of the Big 12 and we should all prepare right now to hear that Bill Self will be moving on as well in the next couple of years. OSU in the Pac-16 2012.

jchief40 7 years, 11 months ago

Have you heard anything that Bill Self has said with regard to leaving or his feelings about KU? The next person that says Bill Self will leave in a couple years WILL get tazed bro! We're not gonna take it any moooooorre!

rcjh22 7 years, 11 months ago

If we land in the Mountain West we can say good bye to Self.

jchief40 7 years, 11 months ago


tazes rcjh22

Now let that be a lesson to the rest of you.

fires needless second taze

Sorry. 8)

kvskubball 7 years, 11 months ago

The UT sports administration is pretty bright!

They don't want to go to the SEC...Why? Well, if UT and OU go to the SEC, why would there be any reason to have a 'national' championship, when most of the very best teams would be in the SEC?...

To have a great competition, you need to have a competitive dynamic. UT's seeming interest in the PAC10 (If the Big 12 disintegrates) makes a lot of sense from this point of view. Geographically the SEC would make much more sense for UT, but besides being brutal, it would be too powerful for any competitive balance between football conferences.

Further, UT sees itself as always having a chance to win the football championship each year (much like the UK basketball fans, chuckle). Joining the SEC would diminish, not enhance their chances of getting to a football 'title' game each year.

Texas A&M doesn't see itself as competing for national titles...for them it is about the $$$$, and the SEC would provide a bigger paycheck, and if Texas goes to the PAC 10..then A&M would escape that big-horned shadow that outshines everything A&M does!

As it now stands with the remaining Big 12 schools.... If the remaining 10 schools stay together, the Big 12 is still a viable entity...but if even one more school leaves, it is done (IMO).

ALL of the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools must remain in the Big 12 to keep it viable. All other schools are really expendable...yes even KU...but KU has no reason to run, except if the Big 12 is no more...So I for one hope that the remaining 10 schools stick together...good riddance to the 2 who have jumped.

If the Big 12 disappears, then I would hope that KU would get an invite from the SEC...I would like nothing better than to compete each and every year against UK. The PAC 10 would be ok, and as someone above noted, travel for football wouldn't be too big a hassle, if other Big 12 schools also go that way...but for other sports, the travel would likely be a big drain, unless enough Big 12 teams join to create an 'eastern' division of the PAC-howmany.

I'm sad to see a really good conference get trashed for a few dollars more, but Colorado and Nebraska have struggled to be relevant in the Big 12, so I do understand their desire to add revenue (since they are NOT adding it by being competitive).

William Weissbeck 7 years, 11 months ago

Here's something to bonder. Because MU has already let the cat out of the bag with their desires to join the Big 10, they are now extremely damaged goods. No other conferance is going to bring them in without very stiff conditions for a long term commitment. They have no leverage. Seems to me the BCS slot belongs to the conferance and the NCAA will be hard pressed to take that away after next year. We need to shop that to Houston, Tulsa and TCU and use it to convince A&M to stay in the fold. Appeal to their greed/pride - do they want to be one among many always behide Texas, or be in a better than 50/50 shot at a guaranteed BCS bid? And maybe with Mark T and basketball, would A&M rather be highlighting that next to actually better competition with Tulsa and Houston?

hawksince51 7 years, 11 months ago

I cannot see A&M going SEC if TT and UT go Pac 10. So, I do not think there is much chance of KU going Pac 10 in their place. With the Mtn. West snagging Boise State and already having TCU and some other decent FB schools I think there would be a good chance of their grabbing the former Big 12's BCS rights should they merge with the remaining Big 12 schools--presumably KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, and MU. Frankly, that would be a better FB fit for us than being with the OK and TX schools, not to mention the existing Pac 10, where we would always have a tough time competing. In BB, we only lose UT and keep KSU, MU and Baylor. And, we would be better off playing in the Mtn. time zone than Pacific. In the end this may be our most realistic option.

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 11 months ago

I have heard the Pac 10 may offer KU along with the Okie and Texas schools and we should take it. If we do not get an offer we should go to the Mountain West which I heard wants to offer us, KSU and Mizzou. Now if A&M really does not want to go the Pac 10 then they should come with us to the Mountain West. Honestly it would end up being a pretty good conference and the travel would not be as bad as the Pac 10. We would still be able to go to Texas with TCU and A&M. We would have a Cali game with San Diego State. Air Force, New Mexico, and Utah are pretty good basketball schools. Boise State would be football star power. I would be happy with this choice.

rob4lb 7 years, 11 months ago

I live in Houston and there are solid reasons for A&M wanting to go to the SEC. There is a groundswell of support by Aggie fans to go to the SEC. They are as sick of UT dictating terms as anyone and they believe they don't have to take it. The funny thing is the UT fans are livid that A&M would even consider not following them. It is quite humorous. A&M has SEC like facilities and likes the idea of hosting LSU and Alabama and Florida as opposed to Arizona and Oregon. They believe this will be a recruiting advantage and will open some fertile recruiting grounds in the Southeast. There is a possibility (don't know how good) that the 16th slot for the PAC-10 will be open.

If offered, we have to take it, but it sounds nice not having to deal with UT. If you haven't lived here, all of your perceptions about UT arrogance are 10X greater than you perceive.

I like the proposal yesterday of an expanded Big East. The four remaining Big 12 North schools combine with Louisville and Cincinnati to form an western division in football and you have a 20 team super conference in basketetball. I don't know how stable the conference is as it fends off poachers from other conferences.

KY_Cats1 7 years, 11 months ago

As a public service to help those of you that will be planning future travel to conference games, here are the mileage/time results from MapQuest for trips from Lawrence, KS to:

Ft. Worth, TX – 515 miles/8 hrs. Colorado Springs, CO – 551/8.5 Fort Collins, CO – 621/9.25 Cheyenne, WY – 635/9.5 Albuquerque, NM – 756/12 Salt Lake City, UT – 1,072/15.5 Provo, UT – 1,090/16 Las Vegas, NV – 1,314/19.5 Boise, ID – 1,369/19.5 San Diego, CA – 1,565/23.5 Future Final Fours – Not applicable to KU again

As always, be sure to obey all posted traffic signs, pack an emergency travel kit, and be sure not to drive while tired.

Enjoy your travels!

Go Big Blue!!!

Mark Lindrud 7 years, 11 months ago

Very interesting info KY. I am curious how much the overall difference is to our current travel mileage/time and see how much more it will be. As long as we are in a good conference and the travel can be still advantageous for fans, but I am aware schools are looking at getting the best deal possible.

KURocksChalk 7 years, 11 months ago

I am starting to think just the opposite about Texas being the linchpin. more like lynch pin. I think the Big 12 ought to kick them out to create stability, change the revenue formula to equal shares (on principle), woo Arkansas whose football fortunes would be better in the Big 12 and add a couple others to replace those who leave. Cincinatti would be good, Utah, BYU, Kentucky would be another from SEC. Having them and KU in the same basketball conference would be huge. Memphis might be a good add. There are plenty of prospects that would make it a better conference, but the self-serving types need to leave now. Maybe 14 is a good number. Personnally, I think 16 will prove to be too big a conference.

KURocksChalk 7 years, 11 months ago

Would like to add my belief that it IS is Texas A&M's interest to split from Texas and the SEC would be a good move for them. In fact, Texas ought to just consider being its own conference a la Notre Dame. My preference is for KU to be able to remain in a Big 12 or Big 14 or something. Otherwise, if the Pac 10 comes calling, that is probably the best financial option, followed by Big East and then Mtn West. But if the Mtn west were to add KU, KSU MU, with it already having Boise State now, it would be a powerful football conference and could no longer be locked out of the BCS. That cannot continue. So, it now looks like reallignment will not spell doom...not sure it ever did. But again, lets kick out Texas, discipline Misery and create some stability.

100 7 years, 11 months ago

As I told many of you yesterday I'm on a short trip out to southern California with family this weekend. During drives and at the hotel room, we've pretty much kept sports radio on 14 hours a day. As a family, we are eating the coverage up.

That said, every report out here has commentators believing that the Pac 10 missing out on a school like Kansas would be like missing out on Duke or UNC if they happened to be closeby and looking for a conference, except better.

The reason is the Pac 10 has much more of a basketball base than they are given credit for and the KU brand is very strong on the West side of the country.

Their point is, marketing. If KU is playing on the network, all Pac 16 fans stop to drink it in and in their words, even if Kansas plays on ESPN, most Pac 10 fans watch anyway.

The reason they see Kansas as even a better fit than a Duke or UNC if hypothetically they were all the same distance is that they see KU's football program with a big ceiling, and in fact with a recent BCS game, technically a win if we're counting (a final vote in 2007-2008 football poll as the #1, only one vote, but still one journalist that year had us on the AP ballot as the final #1).

So in short, they pay attention to Kansas. And the Midwest market is huge if you consider the spread of fans that watch KU. Texas Tech adds nothing to their TV. Baylor nothing. UT is everything in the Pac 10's eyes.

But now as the talks increase, it's not only Stanford who is blowing the horn for our Jayhawks.

It's most of the Pac 10. AAU. Basketball. Current west coast following. The Midwest market. Biggest room for growth for football and already seen as a decent football school in recent years.

Lastly the PAC 10 local talking heads here in LA are concerned we might go SEC and steal the midwest market.

100 7 years, 11 months ago

To respond to one of you about A&M splitting:

financially it would greatly benefit A&M to have their own big bad label in the SEC. Plus it's a football conference, so they would make more money in terms of sharing than UT would with the Big 10 or Pac 16.

Also, like the State of Kansas, the state of Texas will make more money (much more), to split A&M west and UT either West or North.

Essentially popular Texas schools, two of the biggest in the nation, now cover the map if Texas A&M splits off.

The same is true with KU and KSU.

If KU goes to the Pac 16 and KSU goes Mountain West, the coverage area is more, and now there are two different conferences Kansas people will time into and pour their hard earned donuts into.

Two conferences = much more money for the state.

KURocksChalk 7 years, 11 months ago

100, I am with you and think KU and KSU will be best served if they go separate ways. If KSU ends up in the MTN West they will be in a conference that will not remain non-bcs long. If Missouri goes that way too I would think the MTN West is a lock for BCS. Personally, the PAC 16 should not get any more BCS berths. I think the Big East should also consider KSU and/or KU but would be wise to take either.

100 7 years, 11 months ago


Yes I've seen KSU wanting Big East, but everything I've read shows Big East or any other Big conference doesn't see KSU as a fit and in fact aren't in their dialogue at all.

MWC is a great possibility for KSU and would be a BCS conference down the road.

jhwk215 7 years, 11 months ago

well written article, really shows all the possibilities clearly and twhat exactly could happen to Kansas. I just hope we will be able to stick with our rivals wherever we land...

rocknhawk 7 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, this is an uncertain time for the KU family. But too many folks are seeing the glass as half empty. There are some wonderful possiblities out there, my favorite of which involves alignment with the Big East. I would love to see our basketball 'Hawks regularly taking on the likes of Syracuse, UConn, Villanova, Georgetown, and Louisville. West Virginia is a rising power in there. So add KU, Mizzou, and K-State to that mix , lure UK out of the SEC, and you would have the ultimate hoops league which would also field some respectable squads on the gridiron.

To the KU Athletic Department I say: "Stay creative and take some risks." If they do that, years from now we will all be glad that the Big 12 fell apart after all.

hawk316 7 years, 11 months ago

My vote is for a new Big XII conference to emerge out of this chaos. If the Texas and Oklahoma schools choose to remain, wonderful. If not, let's go get some other good institutions that recognize an outstanding conference when they see it. I think it's crazy for KU to go the Pac-10 (apart from the $$)! That would certainly put new meaning into the phrase, "Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore."

That's my vote, but unfortunately I don't have an official vote. Let's hope that those who do will use it wisely.

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