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Thursday, June 10, 2010

Nebraska to announce move to Big Ten

Tom Osborne is surrounded by members of the media at Big 12 Conference meetings last week. Sources have confirmed that Nebraska will leave the Big 12 for the Big 10 in the next few days.

Tom Osborne is surrounded by members of the media at Big 12 Conference meetings last week. Sources have confirmed that Nebraska will leave the Big 12 for the Big 10 in the next few days.

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Nebraska is expected to officially announce it is leaving to join the Big 10 Conference on Friday. As many as six other schools may be leaving the Big 12 as well.

The Journal-World has confirmed reports that Nebraska University is planning to leave the 15-year-old Big 12 for the 115-year-old Big Ten.

A source familiar with the situation said Nebraska would make a formal announcement this weekend, and multiple other reports indicate that such an announcement could come as early as Friday.

“It’s a done deal,” the source said.

The news comes after weeks of speculation regarding Nebraska’s interest in joining an expanded Big Ten because of the more lucrative television revenue made possible by the Big Ten Network.

Nebraska’s inclusion, which is not yet official, would bring the Big Ten’s membership to 12. The conference has expressed an interest in expanding to as many as 16 but, at the moment, is interested in staying at 12, according to the source. Notre Dame could change that scenario, if it expresses interest in joining, the source said.

The Cornhuskers likely will remain in the Big 12 for the next two years. The conference requires at least two years notice of a team’s intention to leave. Even with that, the penalty for opting out is 50 percent of the revenue earned during those two lame-duck years. According to Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, if a school were to give less than two years’ notice, it could lose up to 90 percent of its revenue during the time it remains in the Big 12.

That, Beebe said, is just one of the things of which a school choosing to depart the Big 12 should be wary.

“It’s my view that any (institution) would be really risking a lot by going into another place where they’ll be outsiders for a long period of time,” Beebe said. “(They will) have to acclimate to a new and different culture and risk the chance that the success that they’ve gained will be dissipated over time. They’ll lose a lot more than they’ve gained.”

The loss of the Cornhuskers leaves the future of the Big 12 tenuous. But at least one person from Kansas University said Wednesday that he didn’t believe Nebraska bolting spelled the end for the Big 12.

“Our league’s not dead (if we lose Nebraska),” KU men’s basketball coach Bill Self said. “Not by any stretch.”

Self acknowledged that there are people with more authority than him in position to make the final decision. He also conceded that the tradition-rich KU basketball program had little say in the outcome.

“I don’t think this has anything to do with basketball,” he said. “Football is driving the buggy on this.”

KU football coach Turner Gill, who was a standout quarterback at Nebraska in the 1980s, deferred all comments to KU athletics director Lew Perkins. KU associate athletics director Jim Marchiony, speaking on behalf of the athletic department, said the university was operating on the basis that nothing had changed.

“As far as we’re concerned, it still is a rumor,” Marchiony said. “There’s no question that it’s still a rumor because there isn’t anyone who has heard anything official.”

Rumor or not, that doesn’t mean that officials at KU are not considering all potential outcomes.

“We’re working as hard as anyone,” Marchiony said. “I can tell you that. I know Lew’s been on the phone, but it’s still absolutely a rumor.”

If Nebraska’s departure becomes official, the focus shifts to the rest of the conference’s institutions, which have until Monday to declare their commitment to the Big 12. Nine votes are required to fold the conference, an act that would allow its members to go elsewhere without penalty.

Comments

  1. lv_jhwk (anonymous) says…

    Beginning to look for positives with all of this and came up with one possibility: a temporary cash windfall.

    Think about it. Every school leaving (that's seven, maybe eight) would be forced to forego half of its league revenue each of the next two years. Since it takes only four votes to keep from disbanding the league (and no way ku, ksu, isu, or Baylor let the others walk away penalty-free), that money would be divided by the remaining schools. I'd estimate that would put an extra six to eight million per year for '10-'11 and '11-'12 on our pockets, almost doubling our current revenue.

    Hey, like I said to begin with, looking HARD for positives.

    1. DocBean (anonymous) replies

      The only school that needs to pay is Nebraska for being the first to leave.

      1. docwolff (anonymous) replies

        wrong

    2. salthawk54 (anonymous) replies

      I guess we can use all that extra money to pay Lew more in bonuses. And did you see he was cleared of wrongdoing? Wow! Of course it was done by his school, not any independent organization. It is time to send him and the chancellor packing.

  2. Sweet_Sandbags (anonymous) says…

    Way down the priority list, but I guess the lyrics to "I'm A Jayhawk" will need to change.

    Someone get right on that! ;)

    1. Sweet_Sandbags (anonymous) replies

      Maybe we could have the NU/MU "Traitor Mix" for the remaining Big XII year(s).

      1. leikness (anonymous) replies

        Nice call...need to change it by the fall.

  3. Eurekahwk (anonymous) says…

    This is not a 15 year old conference. It began in 1907 as the MVIAA. It has gone by many names, but the conference is still what it is. And it is really sad that it is being taken apart. Nebraska is just being petty. They know they will never again be a football power with the Texas schools taking their glory. But how do they plan to overtake Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and even Wisconsin who all boast football programs as rich and passionate and Nebraska's?

    I guess with Texas owning football and Kansas owning basketball, the other teams would be eager to run away from it all and try their luck in a different conference. In the old days, they wouldn't be afraid of a little competition. They would man up and try to unseat the top dog.

    1. NebraskaJayhawk (anonymous) replies

      This has nothing to do about whether or not Nebraska will gain prominence in football again. They already have and they will only get better in the coming years whether they leave or stay. The only issue at hand here is money and it's sick that a school like Nebraska or Missouri would leave the conference for that reason alone. Make no mistake about it. This issue is about MONEY. They're set to make about 10 million dollars more a year in the Big 10 (16) than with the Big 12. It all comes down to revenue sharing with the media package.

      Money is corrupting college sports. It's time someone stepped in and made revenue sharing equal throughout all D1 programs. Make it so conferences have nothing to do with where the money goes and this kind of thing stops.

      1. Pbbut (anonymous) replies

        I agree with most of what you say except on one point, one thing the Big 10 will require of Nebraska; to increase their academic profile, they also need to strengthen their admissions and academic requirements. The Big 12, while not down to SEC standards, is not up to Big 10 standards. Will Nebraska be able to recruit enough quality players at this standard and compete? All other things being equal, a degree from theOSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Purdue, or ............Nebraska. I know where I'd want my kid to not go.

      2. leikness (anonymous) replies

        Have to disagree...this decision is based on academics for NU.

    2. jajacut (Jeff Cuttell) replies

      Nebraska has more National Titles than any of those schools you mentioned. I don't see it as running away from competition. I see it as Texas attempting to bully the Big 12 and gave Nebraska a deadline. They were fine with sitting back and waiting to see what happens until that.

      Missouri started this talk in the first place. Texas through their weight around and Nebraska was sick of it. (Just like the other North schools)

      I don't blame them a bit for doing this. More Money, more prestige, no more Texas to bow to.

      Nebraska did come one pass hanging in the air for a little longer to beating the Longhorns and winning the Big 12 this year anyway.

  4. bradh (anonymous) says…

    I find it funny that MU started this whole mess and now the Big 10 is giving them the cold shoulder.

    I keep hearing it's about money, but I don't really see it. The Big 10 is currently passing out more money per school. I keep seeing $22 million, but the actual payouts I see is around $20 million. If you divide the same total of $220 million (11 x $20 million) by 12 teams and you get $18.3 million per team. In two years, when NU moves, the Big 12 will have a new tv contract that I've heard will generate around $17 million per school. It sounds like NU is leaving over $1 million to me. This doesn't take into account the Big 10 gaining any tv sets/revenue from a lightly populated Nebraska, nor any additional revenue from a championship game. Neither does it consider the Big 12/Pac 10 alliance that generates even more tv revenue for the Big 12.

    I understand that NU liked sharing the power with OU in the old Big 8 and that they don't like it that UT runs the show now. However, they won't have any more say in the Big 10 than they do in the Big 12. It sounds like they are leaving because they are peeved at UT, a monster they helped create, and are taking a short sighted view of the revenues.

    1. NebraskaJayhawk (anonymous) replies

      Brad-

      You know what's funny about the whole MU thing regardless of whether they get to join the Big 10 or not is that the B10 thought by getting Mizzouri they would be putting TV sets in Kansas City, MO to draw that crowd. Amazing how stupid the B10 for not realizing the geographic location of K.C. to KU???? I think that part of this deal is hillarious. Maybe that's exactly the reason they are thinking about leaving Missouri out of the picture now...literally. The whole thing is just sick though.

      1. GridironHawk (anonymous) replies

        The Big 10 wants all of STL and that's why they want Missouri. If they can add Missouri then they will own the STL market which is huge (they would also gain part of the KC market but that's just a bonus).

  5. mvjayhawk (anonymous) says…

    it's a sad day for sure when schools leave for more money or feeling jilted or whatever....Nebraska however, is clearly a preferred choice for the Big 10 than Missouri

    the Texas rivals' site article mentions directly that Missouri is not on the pecking order of the Big 10....it's Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers and Maryland.

    as i have talked about and mentioned here, Missouri may be the most over hyped major college program in the country. everyone is so breathless when it comes to how good a recruiting class is, what a sleeping giant Missouri is, and how they're set to explode and on and on. and they always fall short.

    again, as a school, two national titles....one in baseball and one in track...and the last one was in 1970. they've won seven league titles as a member of the Big 12...dead last. it's not even close.

    this whole episode may finally expose Missouri and its local hype machine as the fraud that it is. in the final scope of things, Kansas may be in better position...in fact, i can't think of why they wouldn't be.

    but again, it will take the final shoe to drop to prove it...because until then, the hype will be on for Moo. but it may have peaked this week.

    1. OCJHAWK (anonymous) replies

      Agree. Also funny how CU might get the cold shoulder from the PAC 10 as they have been trying to get in since the BIG 8.

  6. VTHawk (anonymous) says…

    They only would have wanted MU for the STL market, not KC. MU already has annual contests with UI.

    I am just devastated by what is happening. I guess that some of the oldest traditions/rivalries in sports are less important than a couple million a year in revenue. While the B10 has a much higher payout now than the B12, the potential for the B12 to renegotiate the tv contracts means more revenue in the future. I think that the academic "prestige" of the B10 probably sealed the deal.

    1. NebraskaJayhawk (anonymous) replies

      Actually, I read where they were interested in Mizzou because of the St. Louis and K.C. market. Obviously they won't get the K.C. market and I think is probably the reason they are reconsidering their choice of MU. I think you are right about the academic "prestige" sealing the deal.

  7. OCJHAWK (anonymous) says…

    I believe that NU would not consistanly compete with OU/UT any better than KU going forward. This is why they are moving to the big 10. NU is perfect for the old style programs in the upper midwest.

    They tried to recruit speed and skill under Callahan and we all know how that worked out.

    Having lived around the country and currently am in B10 country I understand the style of play due to weather in the recruiting region. This breeds HS coaches who are very conservative and rely on size over speed and skill. This is becouse come playoff time when coaches create reputations for winning. I say this after spending most of two years watching a perennial winner and nationally ranked HS program up here who maybe had 2-3 blitzes per year and passed maybe 6-8 times a game. I was furious at the so called woderful coach who didn't prepare his kids for the next level even though many do play college ball. But this style of play is Nebraska through and through. Get a lead and sit on it.

  8. globaljaybird (Phil) says…

    Face it, KU is not in a big tv market. And you're right, money is corrupting the whole enchilada. Conference history and rivalries are just baloney to the schools, we're being duped. With the whole world economy the way it is, the big shots are all trying to figure out how to keep the enormous cash flow pouring in, and every school in the country is looking for ways to do it. Sad to say it, but if Texas schools go, the conf may collapse when the next tv contract comes up. Hopefully not before. Surely the B10 & P12 are not in cahoots on this? Think about it. If the league disbands, are there any penalties at all?

  9. KY_Cats1 (anonymous) says…

    Wow! If the pathetically weak Pac-10 doesn’t even want a school like KU, I am glad we in the SEC aren’t going to touch it. Things must REALLY be bad in Kansas to be so toxic.

    Yet another reason why UK will get only the best recruits and is here to rule college basketball for the coming decades.

    Too bad, so sad for KU…NOT!

    Go Big Blue!

    1. globaljaybird (Phil) replies

      Yeah, Strickland will recruit all the thugs and alky's that won't go anywhere else so Calimari will have another highlight team, but lastly, with no rings to show for it. His wins are a 10 second trip to the moon... over & done & soon forgotten. And go away jerk, you're not welcome here.

    2. MDHawk (anonymous) replies

      What a sad, sad troll...if you think major conference dissolution and potential hardship for one of your competitors is a good thing, you must be completely oblivious to the true spirit of competition. A good rival is timeless...and without rivalry, whatever perceived accomplishments you think you have mean absolutely nothing.

      Besides...without KU basketball, there is no UK basketball. In fact, there is no basketball period. Get over yourself, and read a book or two about the true meaning of sport. Additionally, if KU were to be invited to join the SEC, you'd better be ready to raise your academic standards a bit...we'll make you look something awful.

    3. gchawk (anonymous) replies

      You must thrive on self abuse. I hope you get the help you so desperately need. Any post here by legitimate posters are just speculation. What isn't speculation are the problems Kentucky is having with falsified SAT test, amoung other things. Now call a psychiatrist, get an appointment, and begin the healing process.

  10. jhawk7782 (Mike) says…

    I guarantee that KY_Cats1 is no older than 16. Would be nice to see him get a life. Or maybe an education.

    We should boycott all games with Nebraska starting this season. From the moment they sign on into the Big 10, we owe them nothing.

    1. MDHawk (anonymous) replies

      I am looking forward to booing them out of the stadium in the Fall.

  11. DocBean (anonymous) says…

    Tom Osborne is a Coward. He's terrified of the Texas Schools, and knows he can no longer compete in the Big XII. I can't believe at such a tradition rich school he's so willing to throw away 103 years of tradition.

    1. docwolff (anonymous) replies

      the most ridiculous comment...ever

      1. leikness (anonymous) replies

        Coward...i don't know...more narcissistic than our 44th president...maybe.

    2. lbranchcrewKU (David Hodges) replies

      Sorry Doc gotta disargee. I don't want to see the Big12 dissolve but it seems to have become pretty apparent that Osborne is not a fan of the Big12 exit. The decision seems to have come from the University President who feels that the academic standards of the Big10 are much higher than the Big12. Surely money is a factor but it would be stupid (just can't think of a better word I'm not calling you stupid) to think that Osborne is the only one making decisions for Nebraska. All in All KU will come out on top. This thing is going to take years to play out. What interests me is what the atmosphere at some of the final Big12 Football and Basketball games will be like over the next 2 years...

  12. leikness (anonymous) says…

    All in all this is a very smart move by the Huskers. It will benefit the entire state in many ways other than sports. The board needs to release KU of our Wildcat ball & chain, realize KS is a one BCS school state and get this thing headed in the right direction. I hope for 2 years of indepenence in bball, Conf USA in football, KSU moving to the MVC where it belongs, then once 12k student headcount have migrated from Manhattan to Larry and there are 40k+ undergrads and 50% more research dollars/national merit scholars (and whatever the hell else these academic types look for) at KU, what kind of target will KS look like then. B of R can always mandate that KU play KSU in football and bball every year.

    For NU athletics...big mistake. While the Big Ten West will probably provide an easier schedule to get to their conference championship game, overall their talent level will continue to decline playing more games in cold climates and thus lead to a longer NC drought. Bad move in Volleyball, recruiting in baseball will suffer, bball will be in the same spot. Nice to see Dr. Tom, TO, Lincoln's Lincoln, etc. exposed for the egomaniac he is...just couldn't get over the jealousy of playing second fiddle to a state with 15 times as many people in it.

  13. jayhawkfan96 (anonymous) says…

    leikness- we'll never be free of KSU. The politicians who approve money for the schools won't allow it. So you might as well go ask the tides to stop. And forget independent basketball status. It makes no financial sense. All of the revenue for basketball comes from the tournament. Just look at the difference in money spent in advertising for regular season football versus regular season basketball. It's not even close. So we couldn't sign any kind of TV contract that is going to come close to the revenue we will get from being in a major conference. And we will be in a major conference. We just make too much money, and have too big of a national fan base. And I have no idea what you smoked to get this 12k students migrating from Manhattan to Lawrence.

    The funniest part of all of this. Missouri, who really pushed all of this to happen so rapidly, is going to be left out in the cold. The Big 10 is not going to extend an invitation. Enjoy Conference USA.

    And MDHawk, as much as I love what you say, tradition only means something to those involved. And when your talking about the kinds of dollars involved here, it has zero effect. College football, and to a somewhat lesser extent college basketball, are all about making money. It begins and ends there. As much as we might wish it were otherwise. All other considerations are largely irrelevant with the people making the decisions.

    1. MDHawk (anonymous) replies

      Unfortunately, I believe you are completely right. Not much use in me worrying about it, I suppose.

  14. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    Nebraska's move to the Big Ten confirms that this has only been superficially about football TV revenues from the very beginning..

    Nebraska has NO major media market!

    Nebraska has NO major media market!

    Nebraska has nothing of value in football, but once upon a time having been a football power.

    Nebraska is a money loser in basketball.

    Lincoln is tough to fly in and out of. .

    But Nebraska does a potential right of way for a western lateral on the NAFTA super corridor.

    And it does have Warren Buffet.

    Capice?

    1. jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) replies

      What what what!?!?! How dare you imply that Omaha-Lincoln is not a major media market! What about the entire I-80 corridor west of Lincoln?!?!? ; )

  15. leikness (anonymous) says…

    I hear you on the being tied to KSU stuff, and the independent stuff (still think it would be amazing if we could pull it off), but if KSU did become Mo Valley and KU stayed as sweet as we currently are, we'd take a big chunk of their student base in a relatively short period of time...just like they did when their football team got "good."

  16. wfzman (anonymous) says…

    First detatch from KSU, we did from WSU so there is precedent. Next from this day forward, don't play Nebraska in any sport. I know there are legal issues involved, but KU has a great law school, maybe they could should Nebraska in default of a contract and get out of any financial penalty.

  17. kushaw (Chris Shaw) says…

    Too bad Joe College still isn't around? He could have had goal mine with all of this. What goes around comes around, KU? (Note: A lot of sarcasm there).

    Anybody else Vexed? I'm terribly Vexed!

  18. Royaljayhwk (anonymous) says…

    Now reports are Colorado is gone...am I in the dark? I have not seen the Big 10 or the Pac-10 officially invite anyone.......

  19. Beakem77 (anonymous) says…

    Colorado is out too

    Just got this email thru a colorado buddy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jashon K Sykes
    Sent: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 9:04 am
    Subject: Its Official

    CU is headed to the Pac-10

    Jashon Sykes
    Assistant Director of Football Operations/ Coordinator of Football Relations
    University of Colorado Football
    Dal Ward Ctr., room 285 368 UCB
    Boulder, CO 80309
    W: 303-492-5407 Fax: 303-492-8990

    go buffs!

  20. Royaljayhwk (anonymous) says…

    Now reports are Colorado is gone...am I in the dark? I have not seen the Big 10 or the Pac-10 officially invite anyone.......

  21. jhokfan (anonymous) says…

    kycats:

    Your obsession with all things KU is flattering.

  22. jhokfan (anonymous) says…

    It absolutely is about the money. May as well start paying the players (Kentucky already is) because college sports really isn’t much different than the pros. In Lexington, basketball players don’t know what the inside of a classroom looks like.

  23. shimjhawk2002 (anonymous) says…

    From Chip Brown, orangebloods.com

    "Also on Thursday, Texas and Texas A&M were meeting alone together in the morning, according to sources, before also having a meeting in the afternoon with Texas Tech and Baylor officials.

    If Texas and Texas A&M are on the same page in their meeting about going to the Pac-10, then the second meeting - with Texas Tech and Baylor - could be the courtesy notifation to BU officials that the other Texas schools in the Big 12 South are moving on."

    http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?C...

    He's been spot on with all of his reporting so it appears that if not today, soon the Pac 16 is a reality.

  24. okiedave (anonymous) says…

    The reports down here is that it is almost certain that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are going to the PAC - 10. Reporters saying it is an all but a done deal and will compliment Arizona and Arizona St. Texas and Tex. A & M are meeting today and it looks like Texas, Tex. Tech, and A & M to the Big 10.

    Left out will be Kansas, KSU, Missouri, Iowa St. and Baylor. Invite TCU, Colorado St. and Wyoming. and make it the Big 8.

    1. letourneau41 (anonymous) replies

      Most likely if they reform and only have eight teams, we will not be a BCS conference. Our best bet is try to take the remaining B12 teams to the MWC which will then become a BCS Eligible Conference since the B12 will be losing their eligibility.

  25. letourneau41 (anonymous) says…

    Where is Lew Perkins in all of this? Why is he sitting back and not doing anything. He needs to be agressive and find another conference for us if the B12 falls apart.

  26. 100 (anonymous) says…

    Here's good news all things considered from the Topeka paper...

    "There is no state law, no Board of Regents policy that would require KU and K-State be members of the same conference," said Kip Peterson, a spokesman for the Kansas Board of Regents.

    ....Thank God. Perhaps we'll end up locked together anyway, but at least we are as free as Duke or Kentucky to do our own thing if pushed.

    Afterall, do you think Missouri wants to be locked together with Missouri State?

    Which school does this relationship benefit?

    All in all, if miraculously we could join the SEC, Pac 10 or Big 10 down the road, there is no way the deal goes through with KSU.

    And moneywise (financially) the state as axwhole brings in much more money if at least one of the two schools takes off with a big football conference like the SEC.

    I still see the SEC as the place to go. Kentucky fans seem to hate us.

    Basketballwise, It would be UNC-Duke that UK has never had, considering they've rolled over everyone in the SEC in hoops.

    And it would bring another elite academic school, something the SEC certainly needs as well.

    And for us, our football program certainly is on the rise the last few years and would only get better playing that type of competition and recruiting in those parts successfully.

    And we would bring in tons of money being part of a football conference like that in exchange for the basketball recognition they could finally have along with another solid academic school.

    Geographically it's not optimal, but they are already split up into East-West and are looking to expand.

    Arkansas is part of the SEC. Are we that far from Arkansas on the map?

    1. jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) replies

      100 - Although K-Staters hate KU, they know they must stay in conference with KU to not be considered a mid-major. Without KU, KSU becomes Colorado St. or Missouri St. Here are some paragraphs before the one you posted.

      "We are very strongly committed about this, that KU and K-State are joined together," K-State president Kirk Schulz said. "Whatever destinations are out there, the two schools want to remain closely affiliated with each other. At least all the conversations I've had at this point, we've all discussed the need for both of us to stay together in the same conference."

      The sentiment from KU isn't quite as strong. Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little told The Associated Press the schools will remain linked "to the extent that it's possible," and associate athletic director Jim Marchiony deferred when asked if KU was committed to remaining in the same conference with K-State.

      "We're not going to answer any speculative questions about any other institution," he said.

      KU's basketball tradition is the biggest selling point for either school, which raises the possibility that conferences could target the Jayhawks ahead of K-State. Though state leaders have expressed a desire to keep the schools united, no legal bond exists."

      - http://cjonline.com/sports/football/2...

      I can see some "emergency legislation" passing in the next few days from Topeka that requires the same conference affiliation. KSU alums are very paranoid about being considered 2nd tier to KU.

  27. RCJ (anonymous) says…

    just seen Coach Tom Izzo is bout to coach the cleveland cavaliers.....ya'll remember Adrien Payne??? there could be our "big".....one scholarship still left....

  28. LindHawk (anonymous) says…

    I think we should join the ACC.... I know it doesn't make much sense geographically. They can have thier super football conference. We will have the most elite Basketball conference ever. Think about the money generated with Duke, NC and KU in the same conference.

  29. jayhawk2062 (anonymous) says…

    "Colorado is a great fit for us athletically and academically" - Pac 10 Commissioner

    You mean the Colorado that was 3-9 in football last year, hasn't won 20 games in basketball in what seems like forever. Their volleyball and women's bball is a joke. They don't even field softball and baseball teams which are some of the key non-revenue sports in the Pac 10.

    Oh, and Colorado was the ONLY Big 12 team not to pass their ncaa apr standards and is being stripped of scholarships due to poor academic performance.

    Good Riddance Buffs.

    I am begging Dan Beebe to replace Colorado and Nebraska with TCU and Memphis NOW!!!!! Let's move on and we'll gain the Memphis market, which is bigger than Omaha and the same size as Denver......

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  31. DocBean (anonymous) says…

    Texas and A&M are going to the Big 10.
    MU and Notre Dame are with them.
    of course Nebraska too.

    OU is heading to the SEC, sounds like KU will be too.

    OSU is heading to PAC 10 with Colorado and Tech.
    This is getting CRAZY!!!

    1. Royaljayhwk (anonymous) replies

      Where is this new news coming from?

        1. Royaljayhwk (anonymous) replies

          Wow...if that's where DocBean got his info, he is really bad at copying and pasting. It says nothing of KU going to the SEC....has them staying in the Big 12.

          1. Royaljayhwk (anonymous) replies

            AND it said TMZ sports.....ugh....

    2. jchief40 (anonymous) replies

      You sound like a tabloid. KU to the SEC (or even acc)???? hahahaha. Not!!

  32. jchief40 (anonymous) says…

    I could easily the Big 12 offering attractive teams from the MWC such as BYU and TCU. That could save the Big 12. Of course if there is the major fallout I could us then going to the MWC with the MWC then poised to get a BCS bid.

    But right now I am thinking the Big 12 will steal some of those good teams from the MWC. That would make for a good football season of course (the driving factor) and keep the Big 12 intact.