Monday, January 25, 2010

Can KU deliver against MU?

Jayhawks hand pizza to fans on eve of Border War

Kansas guard Sherron Collins hands a pizza to a group of Allen Fieldhouse campers including Liberty, Mo., freshmen Leah Mary and Taylor Glock. Collins and the rest of the Jayhawks on Sunday passed out the pizzas to recognize the support of the student groups that have been camping since the morning after the Jayhawks’ game against Baylor on Wednesday.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins hands a pizza to a group of Allen Fieldhouse campers including Liberty, Mo., freshmen Leah Mary and Taylor Glock. Collins and the rest of the Jayhawks on Sunday passed out the pizzas to recognize the support of the student groups that have been camping since the morning after the Jayhawks’ game against Baylor on Wednesday.


GameDay Cram Session: Missouri online editor Jesse Newell and Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan take a look at what to expect from the Kansas basketball team's matchup against Missouri.

KU basketball wins, looks ahead

After handling Iowa State easily, the men's team looks to do the same at home against border rival Missouri on Monday. The Jayhawks have won more than 50 straight games at home.

Kansas University’s basketball players fed their hungry fans at 2:45 p.m. Sunday in Allen Fieldhouse.

The Jayhawks carried two to three boxes of pizza apiece from their locker room into the lower-level north concourse, providing a midday feast for more than 100 loyal student campers.

Those same campers have helped the Jayhawks pile up 53 straight home victories heading into today’s 8 p.m. Border War clash against Missouri in Allen Fieldhouse.

“It’s a tough atmosphere. They really support their team,” Missouri senior guard J.T. Tiller said of the KU fans. “Kansas just really feels comfortable in there. It’s just a tough environment to play in.”

The Jayhawks, who have the country’s longest homecourt win streak — the Tigers rank third at 31 straight victories in Mizzou Arena, one behind Siena — have won 10 straight over the Tigers in Allen.

“The building shaking,” MU sophomore Miguel Paul said, asked what he remembers most about playing in Allen in last year’s 90-65 MU defeat. “It looks like everybody is looking down on you. It was pretty loud.”

“It’s a great atmosphere,” noted MU coach Mike Anderson, 0-3 against KU in Allen and 1-2 in Mizzou Arena. “If you are a basketball player, I think you look forward to playing in great venues, and it’s a great venue.”

The Jayhawks (18-1 overall, 4-0 Big 12 Conference) take a healthy dose of respect for Mizzou (15-4, 3-1) into tonight’s game. The Tigers, who have double-digit scorers in Kim English (14.8), Marcus Denmon (11.2) and Laurence Bowers (10.9), average 81.6 points per game while allowing 63.1.

KU averages 84.5 points and allows 61.5.

“I think they always have our attention,” said KU senior Sherron Collins, asked if MU’s run to the Elite Eight a year ago gave the Jayhawks renewed respect for Mizzou. “Just the way they play, and they are well coached. They are a good team. They try to speed you up. We like to play fast, but they can speed you up faster than what you like to play.”

The Tigers have forced 20.9 turnovers a game, using their pressing style.

“If we go into Kansas playing their style of game, we definitely don’t have a chance,” Tiller said. “But that’s with any team in the Big 12. We have to go in there and play our game and impose our will for us to have the best chance at winning.”

KU coach Bill Self, whose Jayhawks clubbed Iowa State, 84-61, on Saturday in Ames — the same day MU beat Nebraska, 70-53, at MU — had his players feverishly studying MU on Sunday as well as delivering pizza.

“We have one day to prepare for a team that plays differently than anybody else. That’ll make it a little harder,” Self said. “They do a great job, and this is a serious compliment to their staff, of putting their players in position to make plays the way they want to play.”

Both teams will be energized, that’s for sure.

“It’s going to be a great game,” KU sophomore Marcus Morris said. “Missouri is going to come in and give it their all, and we’re going to try to do the same.”

“We know its going to be a big challenge,” MU’s Anderson said, “but I think that’s why they play the game."


KU leads the all-time series, 167-94, including an 86-33 record in Lawrence and 39-14 mark in Allen. ... KU has won six of the last seven and 10 of the last 13 meetings. ... Since the inception of the Big 12, KU holds a 20-9 series advantage against MU — 18-8 in regular-season play and 2-1 in the conference tourney. ... MU sophomores Marcus Denmon and Steve Moore and freshman Michael Dixon were teammates of KU soph Travis Releford on the Kansas City Pump N’ Run AAU team.


David Leathers 10 years ago

WAY off subject:

I wanted to see how Todd Reesing did in the East-West Shrine Bowl so I checked out The results? Not good. He went 2-5 with 11 yards and 1 interception. But the reason I love Todd Reesing? Check this out:

"I'm tall enough to ride the rides over at Universal Studios," said Reesing, who was 2 for 5 passing for 11 yards with the interception. "I was a successful quarterback in high school and college, and I can do the same as a professional."

This kid is a competitor... he can play football and he loves to win. Nuff Said

Now, on to basketball:

Muck Fizzou!!!

docileboy 10 years ago

A final score similar to last years would be good. Some of my Misery friends are planing a "hawk roast", that would not be good. Go KU!

Matt Bowers 10 years ago

drgnslayr, I believe that TT is essential to KU as a 6 man. The real key to KU success is the Towers. They have the ability to take pressure off of every other position. When they are hot, the entire team plays better. Don't know if I think this is going to be a walk in the park, screw mizzou plays 40 minutes of Hell, and our guys didn't have much time to recover. I still feel that KU takes this one and then the lazer beams get focused on ksuck.

Rock Chalk

bradynsdad 10 years ago

i think without a doubt brady, tyrell and sherron play alot in this game they have the most experience with missouris press. dont let turnovers keep them in the game. ROCK CHALK!!!

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Withey, Withey, Withey!!!!! Use our bench!!! And, yes, slayr, Tyshawn cannot turn the ball over--key game for him, coming off the bench!

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

By the way, I would love it if Sherron delivered pizza to my family any time, any day!!!!!!! Nice going, Sherron!

VegasJhawk09 10 years ago

Hey Cali Hawk, thanks for the update on Reesing! I like that kid, he is a great player and I think we will see more of him professionally at some point. Doug Flutie anyone?

Yes, on to KU/MU, its time for the smack down!! This season is going to be huge for KU! We will win today by 15 or 20. It will definitely be harder for KU to go to MU and win the last game of the regular season. They might not be able to pull that one out. Texas just lost at KSU. We may split the series with Kstate or sweep it and lose at Texas, in which case gives KU the outright season title or a share of it for the 7th year in a row. Am I right on that? I think I am.

Scott Smetana 10 years ago

Wow, they average over 20 turnovers/game? That's impressive. However, you must also look at their cakewalk of a schedule. Their non-conference is a joke, I predict NIT for them... again.

Vic Janeway 10 years ago

Im like everyone else....; )

Muck Fizzou!

Lindsey Buscher 10 years ago

The 20 forced TOs a game is a bit deceiving. Some are legit ones where they force the opposition to rush and make stupid passes...however a lot of the TOs are actually fouls and i think the style of play actually wears down the refs so they can't keep up with all the calls. So it's more like 40 minutes of hack.

Dyrk Dugan 10 years ago

KU 85 Moo 67

we won't blow them away like last year...but it's a solid win. and i wouldn't be surprised if we blew them away worse.

to have a shot vs. the Jayhawks this have to be able to shoot it....or drive it...or both (like Tennessee.)

I really don't think the Tiggers can do either. and i don't think we'll turn it over 25 times either.

sdku 10 years ago

I'm sorry but is HALF the people on this board retarded on these Score projections. I don't care how bad Missouri's players are. they give KU a hard time every year! If you think we win my 20 points while theyaverage 20 turnover's a game you are kidding yourself. KU is turnover prone with Taylor and Sherron can get crazy too. Watch out if Missouri gets hot shooting and the put the pressure on us.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

Reesing looked ok. He had a great pass that was dropped by the receiver and he did his normal dancing in the backfield to avoid sacks.

NebraskaJayhawk 10 years ago

Key to this game and the remainder of the season. Surprise, but it's not Sherron Collins or Cole Aldrich. It's the play of big man Marcus Morris. If he plays every game with the hunger that he showed against, ISU...then I think we're in for a fun ride.

I think Morningstar and Reed will play ALOT in this game, by the way.

Chris Bruning 10 years ago


you don't care how bad their players are? i do, that usually has something to do with the outcome of a game. they give us a hard time every year? no they don't, we've won like 10 straight in AFH(several blowouts). KU is turnover PRONE with taylor and sherron? we are also badass prone with taylor and sherron and cole and twins and X and.....damn we're a good team. look sdku i am with the retards on this one

KU 75 MU 58

Sportshooligan713 10 years ago


KU likes to run and so does Missouri, so I have a hard time believing the high scorer will be in the 70's. I can see both sides of the coin, KU definitely has lapses on defense every once in awhile and can get sped up, if both of those happen this could be a much closer game then we would like. The person I am most worried about to be honest is X. Today I am feeling optimistic though, so SDKU I'm going to be retarded as well. Taylor has a break out game with like 18 and 4, the whole team plays solid, and make a statement winning by 20+.

Final Score KU 92 MU 71

crestdr 10 years ago

SDKU, Mizzou totally gave us a hard time last year.

KU by 15.

sdku 10 years ago

I'm not trying to stir things up, hey I love this board but my points are valid. So ,to say we are going to beat them by 20 may be overshooting it. Mizzou just plugs player's into their system just like Tennessee and we know what happened there. This is at home so it should be different.

Mizzou is #1 in the country in turnover % defense. Does everyone know how many turnover's we had against Memphis? We had 21 and they are #6 in defensive turnover % per Kenpom's site is awesome if you haven't seen it by the way.

The Memphis game was too close and I hope this one won't be the same. If we crash the boards and not get turnover crazy we should be fine. Mizzou is not a good offensive rebounding team, #296. Check them out on Kenpom's site.

Oh, and FYI I do hope we Blow Them Out. I hate the Show Me State except the Plaza. (LOL). Go Hawks!

tashe2 10 years ago

Final score

KU 165 - Mizzou 11

Sherron has 93!

sdku 10 years ago

Tashe2, I h8 U. LOL. KU wins 42-39. Old time 1920's score, no shot clock. Was Mizzou even a team back then? LOL

Jack Wilson 10 years ago

KU 84 MU 68

How can a team play college basketball for over a century and NOT make it to one final four? The answer is in Columbia. Dartmouth, Duequesne, Colorado, Holy Cross, Baylor, NYU, Wichita St., NC-Charlotte, SMU, Drake, Dayton, Iowa St., Seattle, and for goodness sake, Santa Clara, have all obtained Final Four immortality. But Missouri ... well they haven't. One wonders how, in 110 years, there can't be at least one fluke to get to a final four?

Has a school's fans ever held a higher opinion of themselves for no apparant reason? I have researched long and hard, and the conclusion is "no." This school hired Quinn Snyer over coach Self. This school hired Larry Smith. This school forced Norm Stewart ot leave, for Quinn Snyder. This school rests in a state with highways in shambles, major cities with urban decay, and banjos that play relentlessly further south, for those seeking deliverance. This school prides themselves on their civil war history in the border war .. weren't they a slave state? And its basketball arena, first known as the "Paige" Sports arena, was named for a college student who attended UCLA. Now it is simply Mizzou arena. Very original. Perhaps they could have harkened back to their basketball heritage, and pulled a name worthy of recognition ... word is they tried. Paige was the best option. Mizzou fans are known to "storm the court" for wins .. in January .. against Oklahoma, or Oklahoma St. They've been known to start the season in the top 5, only to finish in the NIT. Just making the tournament is success. Their favorite March pasttime is rooting against their rival.

Once known as a softball school, MU continues to emphasize its school of journalism. That is absolutely wonderful. They are so sure and confident about their existence, that they lobbied the legislature to keep Missouri State from become "Missouri State", preferring the less threatening Southwest Missouri State. Their football stadium sits on Champions Drive, yet has there ever been a real "championship?" Their fans scream bloody murder when their own player steps out of bounds, sure that the ref moved the line. The Antlers sit around and giggle about making phone calls to opposing players' rooms, all the while spending lots of time together, in hotel rooms .. not sure what the antlers are for; don't want to know. Or drinking with coach Eustachy .. Natty light, I hear. Has a school every had major success yanked away at the last moment like this pathetic institution? The NU football "kicked" TD in the last second as fans run onto the field, thinking they had won. Tyus Edney. A #1 football ranking only to get punked by a real football school. The following season was to be THE season, but it crumbles without a Chase. And a 5th down to defeat vs. Colorado. It is cruel, isn't it? It seems Missouri is always shooting themselves in the foot.

Grrrrr Tigers.

Self4Prez 10 years ago

HighEliteMajor - haha! Well done and quite funny. Just FYI - Paige the cheater went to USC.

Chris Corley 10 years ago


Brilliant! But don't forget:

  1. Ricky Clemons

  2. Legacy of the Hern Center (the closest thing they ever had to basketball tradition) being spoiled by a baseline jumper from a guy who didn't even stick around to graduate as a Jayhawk.

But good work. This needs to be forwarded around in an email chain.

Tuskin 10 years ago

Question: If a member of a basketball team worked at a pizza place, could he accept exorbitant tips without violating NCAA regulations?

Maurice E. King III 10 years ago

Border War in KU Final Four Years

KU Final Four Years (13) – 1940, 1952, 1953, 1957, 1971, 1974, 1986, 1988, 1991, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2008

KU has an astounding record versus Missouri in years that it has made the Final Four.

Overall series is KU 167 - MU 97 for a 63% winning percentage.

In final four years, KU is:

28 - 2 overall 25 - 1 in non-tournament games 13 – 0 in Lawrence 12 – 1 in Columbia

Rock Chalk

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

KU should win--I really can't put a score on it but most likely, the game will be a track meet. So, here goes: KU--88 MU--70

DENDK24 10 years ago

Great stat kcblkscorpion,

On that note I predict

KU 93 MU 66

Godisajayhawk 10 years ago


great info! Where did you find that? Or are you just a great researcher yourself?

Debbie Mangen 10 years ago

Does the Crimson and Blue Line have an email or facebook page?

jaybate 10 years ago


Just back from Cancun.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Ah, Mexico!!!!! The sun, the friendly people, the drug lords, the friendly people, the terrific tasting water--you just can't beat that locale! Glad you're back Jaybate--just in time for a Tiger mistress beatdown!

Greg Lux 10 years ago

If KU plays with the same intensity they have shown the last two games .. they will do just fine ..

Rock Chalk

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