Originally published January 23, 2010 at 11:57a.m., updated January 23, 2010 at 07:32p.m.

FINAL: KU’s big men impress in 84-61 victory over Iowa State

Kansas guard Sherron Collins claps his hands as an Iowa State player brings the ball up the court during the first half, Saturday, Jan. 23, 2010 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins claps his hands as an Iowa State player brings the ball up the court during the first half, Saturday, Jan. 23, 2010 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.


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Reader poll

Which performance were you more pleased with in the KU-Iowa State game?

  • Cole Aldrich: 19 points, 8-for-11 shooting, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, steal, 31 minutes 56% 1353 votes
  • Jeff Withey: 8 points, 5 rebounds, block, turnover, 12 minutes 41% 991 votes
  • Undecided 1% 36 votes

2380 total votes.

Reader poll

Who was KU's first-half MVP against Iowa State?

  • Cole Aldrich 53% 70 votes
  • Jeff Withey 30% 40 votes
  • Thomas Robinson 1% 2 votes
  • Brady Morningstar 11% 15 votes
  • Other 3% 4 votes

131 total votes.

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Reader poll

Who will have more points in today's game?

  • Sherron Collins 51% 29 votes
  • Craig Brackins 42% 24 votes
  • The two will tie 1% 1 vote
  • Undecided 3% 2 votes

56 total votes.

GameDay Cram Session: Iowa State online editor Jesse Newell and Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan take a look at what to expect from the Kansas basketball team's matchup against Iowa State.

3:50 p.m.

Update: C.J. Henry did not travel with the team because of a deep bone bruise on his tailbone.

KU scoring — Aldrich 19, Marcus Morris 16, Collins 11, Withey 8, Morningstar 7, Taylor 7, Robinson 6, X. Henry 4, Reed 3, Markieff Morris 3.

KU was 36-for-77 from the floor (46.8 percent), 3-for-17 from three (17.6 percent) and 9-for-10 from the free-throw line (90 percent).

ISU was 20-for-53 from the floor (37.7 percent), 4-for-10 from three (40 percent) and 17-for-26 from the free-throw line (65.4 percent).

KU out-rebounded ISU, 44-34. ISU had 17 turnovers to KU's 11.

FINAL: KU defeats ISU, 84-61

Two alley-oops — one to Robinson and one to Withey — highlight the final minutes for KU.

Elijah Johnson dribbles out the final few seconds, and KU wraps up a 23-point victory.

KU 75/ISU 56 — 2:59 left in game

Morningstar goes down the middle of the lane, splitting ISU defenders for a layup.

Marcus follows his own miss with a stickback, and Aldrich puts in a tough jumper on the baseline over a double team.

Most ISU fans grab their coats at the final media timeout.

KU 69/ISU 51 — 5:40 left in game

Just when ISU seems to have found a rhythm offensively, KU comes back with an answer each time. Markieff Morris drives in for a layup with a foul. Taylor, on a fast break, uses good body control to put in his own shot off the glass with a whistle.

After Taylor’s basket, Collins put both arms up, flexing his biceps for a brief second. I think we know who the intended recipient of that signal was.

Marcus Morris with another spinning shot in the lane. The next time down, though, he misses three straight chippies under the goal. I guess he’s earned that right with how well he’s played in the last four games.

Collins shows the quick trigger on the break, bricking an open three. Self throws out his hands in disgust. With a 20-point lead, the coach would like to slow this game down and see his team play with more control.

Collins with another bad shot in the lane, and one-handed floater that clangs away.

KU 57/ISU 42 — 11:43 left in game

Gilstrap puts in a vicious, one-handed dunk with a foul. He holds both arms up, flexing his biceps for the cameras. Meanwhile, ISU is still down 13.

Markieff Morris draws a double-team inside, and he kicks out to Tyrel Reed for a wide-open three that he swishes.

Markieff takes a few dribbles inside to draw a pair of defenders, then drops off to Withey for a jam.

Collins fouls Laron Dendy hard on a fast break, nd he’s whistled for a flagrant foul. It was a hard foul, but it sure looked to me like Collins was playing the ball. Self talks to the officials, and McDermott makes his way all the way over toward the KU bench to try to break up the conference. Self doesn’t seem too pleased with the ISU coach at the moment.

KU 50/ISU 35 — 15:31 left in game

Collins gets a shot rejected on a backdoor cut, but an official calls a foul from the backside. The ISU fans have been unhappy about lots of calls today, but that time, they have a reason to gripe, as there didn’t look to be any contact inside. In any case, Collins makes both freebies.

Marcus Morris, after sitting most of the first half with two fouls, continues his stellar play. He boards an Xavier Henry miss, then sticks it back in for two. The next possession, he backs down Brackins, then, without fear of getting blocked, drops in a short shot in the lane. McDermott calls timeout with ISU falling behind by 17.

Out of the break, Marcus catches on the baseline, fakes a drive, and puts in the 13-footer. If he keeps hitting those types of shots, he’s nearly impossible to guard with his quickness and size.

Gilstrap puts in two straight three-pointers. ISU needs more long-range shots if it wants to get back into this one.

KU scoring — Aldrich 9, Marcus Morris 6, Morningstar 5, X. Henry 4, Robinson 4, Withey 4, Collins 4, Taylor 2.

KU was 16-for-38 from the floor (42.1 percent), 1-for-10 from three (10 percent) and 5-for-5 from the free-throw line (100 percent).

ISU was 9-for-23 from the floor (39.1 percent), 1-for-4 from three (25 percent) and 6-for-9 from the free-throw line (66.7 percent).

KU had 21 rebounds, while ISU had 16. The Cyclones had 13 turnovers, while the Jayhawks had eight.

One halftime thought/interesting stat

• KU’s smalls combined to go 6-for-22 (27 percent). KU’s bigs combined to go 10-for-16 (62.5 percent).

KU 38/ISU 25 — Halftime

Withey and Aldrich stand on opposite sides of the rim, playing volleyball on the offensive boards. What a luxury it is for Self to have a seven-footer to bring in if he needs him.

Withey, after missing an 18-footer, comes to the bench smiling, but you can tell he hasn’t come to the bench often. He plops himself in Self’s seat, and assistant coach Kurtis Townsend tells him, politely, that he can’t sit in coach’s spot.

Xavier Henry is out of it today. Three straight three-point attempts don’t hit rim, as two of them are blocked and one is an airball.

Weird play to end the half, as ISU tried a full-court pass that went out of bounds without being touched by anyone. The timekeeper still started the clock. letting the 1.1 seconds tick off. KU’s coaches — Self, Townsend and Danny Manning — all talked with officials, telling them the ball didn’t touch anyone, but the stripes refused to listen. Surprisingly, they didn’t look at the monitors, either.

Either way, KU takes a 38-25 lead into the break.

KU 34/ISU 23 — 3:58 left in 1st half

After a foul on KU, things get a little chippy. Collins tries to rip the ball away from Marquis Gilstrap, and Gilstrap claps a few times in Collins’ face. Collins gets real close to Gilstrap, then says some more words to him before officials split them up.

Withey comes back in and continues his impressive game, following a miss with a two-handed slam.

Withey guards Brackins for a possession, and Brackins bricks a shot from the baseline. Good defensive possession for Withey, but I’m not sure why Brackins is trying to shoot over a seven-footer instead of going around him.

KU 30/ISU 18 — 7:05 left in 1st half

I know KU is in some foul trouble, but I don’t know how long Self can keep Robinson out there. He’s a liability on offense with two turnovers already. He’s just trying to do everything too quickly. He hitches up an 18-footer with the shot clock at 30 seconds that clangs off the backboard and rim. To Self’s credit, he’s being patient with the freshman today.

Taylor checks in for his first action.

Self’s patience with Robinson pays off. He grabs an offensive rebound before putting in the stickback, then makes a move down the lane, putting in a finger-roll. After thinking about it, he’s probably in there more for his defense, as he’s closest to Marcus athletically, and you need a quick and long defender to guard Brackins.

Aldrich bangs in a turn-around jumper, and KU has built up a 30-18 lead.

Bad pass by Morningstar in transition, as he throws it ahead to Robinson on the side. Robinson tries to dribble to the rim, and he has it stolen away quickly. Robinson gets the turnover, but perhaps it should go to Morningstar.

KU 20/ISU 14 — 11:31 left in 1st half

It doesn’t look like C.J. Henry made the trip with the Jayhawks. Interesting.

A three-point play by Justin Hamilton gives ISU a 12-11 lead. That’s a 12-2 run for the Cyclones.

Jeff Withey with a nice move inside, up-faking to get his defender in the air before leaning under him for a shot off the glass.

Markieff Morris is whistled for an illegal screen. That’s four turnovers already for KU. Meanwhile, the Cyclones’ defense only forces 13.6 turnovers per game.

Morningstar buries another three. ISU coach Greg McDermott, meanwhile, is livid that Withey wasn’t called for an illegal screen.

Marcus Morris rattles in a baseline shot, and KU has regained a comfortable lead at 20-14. Marcus picks up his second foul on an over-the-back call, though, so he might have to sit out the rest of the half. Who will guard Brackins now?

KU 11/ISU 9 — 15:57 left in 1st half

In its pregame video, Iowa State showed footage of the Cyclones beating the Jayhawks in the 1996 Big Eight championship game. Seems like a long time to go back to find a highlight.

The taunts don’t seem to have worked against Morningstar and Collins. Morningstar swishes a three after the tip, and Collins follows later with a long jumper.

Marcus Morris adds a nice turn-around jumper and also a layup in transition, and KU’s 9-0 start forces ISU to call timeout.

Brackins puts in a dunk over Morningstar, giving ISU its first points at the 17:30 mark.

Marquis Gilstrap puts in a one-handed dunk, and he taps his right bicep twice on his wayback down the court. Funny thing to do while down five.

Thomas Robinson steps over the end line when inbounding the ball after a Scott Christopherson three. That’s the second turnover for KU already when inbounding the basketball.

Jeff Withey will check in for KU.

1:11 p.m.

Brady Morningstar will start his second straight game over Tyshawn Taylor.

12 p.m.

The chat is now up. Just a reminder: Though it says to "Submit a question," really you can use that form to simply post a comment as well.

11:56 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa, where the No. 3 Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Iowa State Cyclones.

Much like last game, I'll go ahead and fire up a pre-game chat one hour before the game starts. You can find the link in the upper-left corner of this blog.

Before we get to that, here are some notes about Iowa State, which enters with a 12-6 record.

Iowa State makes 42.1 percent of its three-pointers, which is fourth nationally. The Cyclones' three top three-point shooters in attempts all shoot over 42 percent (Marquis Gilstrap 42 percent; Craig Brackins 46 percent; Scott Christopherson 50 percent).

ISU's Lucca Staiger, who quit the team earlier this week, was shooting 43 percent from three. He also had 113 attempts from three.

Defensively, ISU doesn't force many turnovers, as opponents average just 13.6 giveaways per game.

Opponents only make 42.9 percent of their two-pointers against the Cyclones, which is the 31st-best mark in the country.

ISU opponents average only 15 free throws per game.

Be sure to vote in our poll on the left, and also use the hashtag #kubballl to have your Tweets appear on our grid on the left side of the page.


Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

Hilton is like the worst place to play. I'm Scared!!

ParisHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Wish list :

  • Marcus keeps up his streak of fine Big 12 play;
  • Cole heats up on offense;
  • Taylor starts getting his head screwed on straight;
  • Xavier gets over his shooting slump.

I just don't see any other freshmen as saviors at this point; KU needs to solidify the contributions from the experienced guys.

Justin LoBurgio 9 years, 12 months ago

KU 65 ISU 58

Hilton is always tough. Any win on the road in the Big XII is a good win.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

one michael, you sure are consistent. I would bet you get scared for latenight too.

X breaks out of his funk today. leads all scorers.

KU_Alumn_2000 9 years, 12 months ago

Look for the Hawks to keep Iowa State's shooting percentage down after Baylor shot over 50%. Just wondering if Self will emphasize this in the next few games.

Also think Self will want our guys to focus on getting the ball inside to Cole, Marcus, and Kief.

Finally, Xavier will continue improving on his defense...along with flying into the paint on rebounds.

kansasbasketball 9 years, 12 months ago

i hope nova and st. johns don't run over at all!

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

Does anyone know how to get past a filter at work so I can watch on I have tryed some proxies but nothing is working.

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 9 years, 12 months ago

not sure how. you need to make friends with the tech guy or something. or bring in your own laptop to work and plug in to the 'net

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

is ku blacking out all the internet radio broadcasts?

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

mullen...if you can get to you should be able to go through that

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

chuck - I think they are blacking them out for some reason (probably $). Lazer/klwn feed hasn't worked the last couple of times I've tried to listen online. haven't tried getting on today though...

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

must be ESPN that forbids it. How pathetic. they cut late to our game like 80% of the time.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

i've tried like five affiliates...all blacked out

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking. The 'Nova/St Johns game definitely running into ours. Hope Nova keeps it in double digits to prevent a bunch of fouls down the stretch.

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Jesse -

Being a member of the local media, can you shed any light as to why all the Jayhawk radio affiliates are blacked out online?

Philip Garver 9 years, 12 months ago

Anyone wanna guess when Tyshawn gets in the game?

KU_Alumn_2000 9 years, 12 months ago

Wasn't Norm Roberts (St. Johns Head Coach) an assistant at KU back in the day? Wasn't he under Roy at one point ?

ParisHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Norm Roberts was a Self assistant on day one. He recruited RussRob.

Jesse Newell 9 years, 12 months ago

NH — I believe that KU Athletics has the exclusive rights to the game, so it prevents the live streaming of local radio stations so that it can charge on its Web site for the game. If KUAD is looking to make money, blocking KLWN and other stations is the only way to go.

kusayzone 9 years, 12 months ago

ESPN 360 has the game listed as Kansas St @ Iowa St----unbelievable

KU_Alumn_2000 9 years, 12 months ago

Paris Hawk - Checked wikipedia. It said that Roberts followed Self around from Oral Robers, to Tulsa, to Illinois, and then to Kansas. He spent one season at KU before becoming the head coach at St. Johns.

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Thanks for the info, Jesse. That totally sucks. I enjoy listening to Bob Davis and Chris Piper during the breaks in the game. In their attempt to make more $$ they are essentially alienating huge numbers of Jayhawk fans who are outside the terrestrial radio signal. Why would I pay for the radio feed when I can watch the game on ESPN? Just seems cheap to me.

Kent Wells 9 years, 12 months ago

Jesse posted during the Baylor game "I believe that KU Athletics has the exclusive rights to the game, so it prevents the live streaming of local radio stations so that it can charge on its Web site for the game. If KUAD is looking to make money, blocking KLWN and other stations is the only way to go."

jhawk4life1976 9 years, 12 months ago

Great! Missing the start of the game. I hate watching basketball on ESPN!

jayhawkboogeyman 9 years, 12 months ago

already has started. I hate espn. Same crap every time we are on it.

kansasbasketball 9 years, 12 months ago

i totally agree jhawk4life!! and we will probable get crappy annoucers on top of it!

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

Man, I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, hate the Big East.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

why can't keif go back to shooting ninety something percent from the field?

kusayzone 9 years, 12 months ago

too easy inside, so SC starts firing up from outside with no passes on offense

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

chuck, Thanks, I had already tryed ctunnel which is the same thing I think and it did not work.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

In a few decades, we'll all be able to say 'I was there' when asked about the Jeff Withey Era.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

xavier needs to get out of this funk. he is thinking too much. he needs to just play like he just did on that finish.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

withey looks like he is starting to get in rhythm. looks a little slow but he is rotating well.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

withey looking like a stud. must have earned this at practice. Could 'Kief be slipping down?

tstanlick1909 9 years, 12 months ago

Withey needs to take Kieff's spot. Until Kieff can actually do something productive other than stand around on D and miss bunnies, just sayin.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

I think Self had a talk with this team and said he's going to change the way he distributes minutes. If true we will try and run more. In the couple of shots of the bench I've seen TT seems to have a great attitude on his sleeve right now. Then he has a great steal...

starting to come together...

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

Cole not starting? Is this Self trying to give him a wake up call?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

Good minutes out of Whithey.

These officials are booty.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

T-Rob gonna be a soon as the refs give him a break.

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

Monster block by Cole... That was awesome.

Oh, and to be fair.... These officials have let us get away with walking quite a few times... lol.

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

That's what I like about Brady. Even when he makes a mistake on the fast break, he keeps hustling and steals it back and then Cole scores it.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

I think cole started but withey came in really early so espn may have screwed it up.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

jesse didn't mention Cole not starting...

Jesse, how about it?

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

and espn says teahan started. i kind of doubt that.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

Marquette up on Syracuse 34-30 1 minute left in first half.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

whoa. are we actually playing withey and cole at the same time? funnel them to the middle! block party!

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

Love seeing Withey and Aldrich in at the same time!

Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

Aldrich and Whithey in the game at the same time...

This is crazy.

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

What do the ISU fans keep chanting whenever Collins gets the ball?

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

thats because ohio state goes from being a borderline tournament team to a borderline final four team with evan turner. he is an absolute stud

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

Is anyone else kind of surprised by the quality of play that Withey is bringing? I mean, I knew he had ability, but he's really stepping up and playing well today.

If he keeps this up, he could be a truly great addition to the rotation come tourny time...

Chad Hallack 9 years, 12 months ago

You know something? It just dawned on me what one Xavier's huge issues is. He doesn't play above the rim. Not the he can't, he just doesn't do it. I've been noticing the constant double clutches when he goes to the basket. But it dawned on me a few minutes ago that he doesn't have an "above the rim" mentality.

I think it's becoming more and more likely that he'll be back next year. Craig Brackins is ready. Xavier has further to go than I thought he did in November.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

I heard he was incredibly skilled. I think he just needed to get some reps in practice

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

This is awesome, watching Cole and Withey destroy the boards....

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago


I am. If this is how Withey is going to play then he should be seeing more minutes. That's a huge frontcourt when it's him playing alongside Cole. On the other hand, what does that say about Self's thoughts about his playing rotations?

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

there has to be something wrong with xavier. he just airballed a 3. he is the purest shooter on the team. he should not be airballing shots.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

Twin Towers is so over used - how about Pale Pillars?

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

That's 2 straight air balls from Xavier now....

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

Xavier is just not confident or comfortable at this point.... Kid has all the ability in the world, but needs to develop some confidence...

JayhawkCasey 9 years, 12 months ago

I like seeing Jeff and Cole out there together

Dale Koch 9 years, 12 months ago

X two air balls in a row. One might have been blocked partially. Where is his confidence?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

That may be the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen. Blatant push in the back. And at the very least, it should have been KU's ball--nobody touched it?!?!?!

MrPilot 9 years, 12 months ago

Xavier getting the freshman jitters. He needs to relax a little and just let it come.

fansincewilt 9 years, 12 months ago

Great minutes by Withey with the Morris twins with two fouls each.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 12 months ago

Xavier just needs to be talked down at halftime. he is more than capable of putting up 20+ anytime even as a second or third option and he is just thinking about it too much right now.

jayhawkboogeyman 9 years, 12 months ago

A few things: 1. Sherron absolutely cannot get anything going against a team as long as ISU. 2. Marcus is the best player on the team right now, besides Sherron, and he's gotta stay out of foul trouble and in the game, and he can take this team deep in the tournament with Sherron's game helping. 3. Withey has looked solid. Great follow dunk, and active on the boards. 4. Xavier looks absolutely terrible right now. 5. Robinson had a few decent minutes. He got a few minutes instead of seconds this time, and he can at least see the corner now. Getting around it is a big key to March. 6. I love the size inside with Cole and Jeff together.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

With X struggling a bit, I wouldn't mind seeing Aldrich, Withey, and Marcus on the floor at the same time. No one would be able to score on the inside against that lineup. :) :) :)

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

That'd be awesome to see in the second half stupidmichael.

Lacy Mohler 9 years, 12 months ago

Does TT play better with Collins on the bench? This is like the 3rd time recently where the best run of the half (other than the opening most of us didn't get to see) came with TT in and Collins out. Despite all TT's problems he does go inside more than college basketball's best. Great play with Aldrich and Withey in together!

JayhawkCasey 9 years, 12 months ago

I think the team is starting to come together. We look more solid today against a very long team. Hope it continues against mizzou and kstate.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

I agree, Casey. We'll know a lot more in a week.

Chad Hallack 9 years, 12 months ago

Somebody needs to remind X that when shooting a jump-shot, you're supposed to realease the ball at the top of your leap.

Chad Hallack 9 years, 12 months ago

That's twice that Cole got dunked on HARD... That dude is an athlete!

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

The January surprise! The twin towers hit the floor. Awesome.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

i hope we play syracuse in the final four because we destroy the zone.

Kent Wells 9 years, 12 months ago

Reesing is the QB in the E/W Shrine game NOW!

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

Cole's having a great shooting game today. Making sooooo many of those bunnies he's been missing as of late.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

So we go with Withey, Cole, MK., MC., and Sherron? SC might get a little tired.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 12 months ago

Strange to watch Reesing take snaps from under center.

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

Come on Taylor, pull the trigger without hesitation.... Nobody is going to crucify you for taking an open shot.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

i think sherron mouthed to coach that the turnover was his fault. nice move by taylor. love the reverse pop eye. and then a great shot....

We look very good today. granted isu isn't that good but they always play us tough at home.

Ben Kane 9 years, 12 months ago

did you guys all leave the game to watch Reesing? couldn't you just dvr the shrine game and watch it later?

Brian Powell 9 years, 12 months ago

Anyone see Collins give that Gilstrap guy the muscles pose after TT got and-1 on him??


kansasbasketball 9 years, 12 months ago

about what time in the game was todd ressing in the shrine game?

Brian Powell 9 years, 12 months ago

I like how we're making a point taking it inside while still probing the outside shot

On D, why are we getting dunked on so much? Losing our man? Worried about the 3 ball?

Taylor evens out his and-1 and 3 with a TO and foul. Ugh.

JayhawkCasey 9 years, 12 months ago

I saw the muscle pose, and Collins actually has muscles to flex.

Lacy Mohler 9 years, 12 months ago

Collins pops a three with no one to rebound. Ugh.

NH_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

was that Brady that just drove the lane and scored a layup?

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 12 months ago

Cole looks much more comfortable on offense - 17 pts.

Theutus 9 years, 12 months ago

Quality double double for Cole. Biggest surprise and output came from Withey tonight though...

Good game hawks.

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

Marcus has to have a double double now... that's got to be 6 rebounds in his last 2 bunny miss fests.

Chad Hallack 9 years, 12 months ago

Marcus has been a MAN on the boards! Ahhhh, always good to hear the Rock Chalk chant on the road!!!!

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

Great game Cole you are the man.

P.S my man crush on you is back on.

MrPilot 9 years, 12 months ago

Great game. We looked much more solid. Cole is back and awesome to see Withey get so many quality minutes.

ParisHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Like I said before the game: "I just don't see any other freshmen as saviors at this point". Thanks Withey for proving me wrong, it was great seeing you out there!

ydoow53 9 years, 12 months ago

Any idea why we don't get our bench more serious minutes at the end of games like this? Seems like some of the younger players would benefit by getting, EJ, CJ, and TR 4-5 mins vs. 2 min. Plus risking injury to starters.

rockchalk80 9 years, 12 months ago

Seems like Cole got more mins in this game - I don't know if that was by design, or because the twins were in foul trouble, regardless, that was his best game in some time - great win. Rock chalk!

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

Great game and great utilization of the bigs.

The more Withey plays, the more his confidence builds.

Get out of your funk X...let's go buddy! People need to get off his back. Dang, the kid is learning and transitioning. Give him a break and give him some time. When he hits those shot, you'll be praising him. And we all know he can hit those shots at will.

One game at a time.

What was Super Brackins' final stats? hmmm...42 pts? 13 pts, 1 rebound, 5-13 (0-2 treys?, surely not!), 2 blks, 1 TO He really repeated at home this year!

Rock Chalk KU- Even in "magical" Hilton Coliseum! We own ISU... Beat fizzou!!

GreyHawker 9 years, 12 months ago

Good observation bhann............let's not have double standards here with X......don't start him and see if he gets it.......I know his Daddy will.....

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

Fortunately bhann, we didn't need X this game!

He'll hit those shots when they're really needed and you'll be praising him.

It happens, especially to freshmen.

You said it best bhann- Anytime we can win on the road is a big plus. I love How Coach Self used his bench in the 1st half, it paid off big time in the 2nd half.

This is the beauty of certain players having bad games. Heck SC only had 11 pts and we still beat a fairly good team on the road. All players have to step up when your superstars are off. This is why they call it a team sport!

Jim Dickerson 9 years, 12 months ago

The Aldich/Withey combo was, in a word, awesome. Would like to see more of it. It appeared to me that there was some very good chemistry between them. All in all, one very good win for the Hawks.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

I think the pre-game question is funny:

Who will score more points Collins or Brackins?

Brackins 13 pts Collins 11 pts

Only 1% of voters said they would tie.
51% said Collins 42% said Brackins I knew Brackins' bottle of lightening would not strike twice. This kid is good but he's a flash in the pan to me! But he'll go to the NBA.

kufankam 9 years, 12 months ago

X just needs to relax... He will be fine. I am glad that he is hitting a slump in January as opposed to March. BRush did the same thing and came alive come tourney time!! Great game for the bigs!!!

Jesse Newell 9 years, 12 months ago

bhann — McDermott said afterwards a big part of ISU's gameplan was to avoid fouling. With only an eight-man rotation, it's really the Cyclones' only hope to hang with KU.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

kufankam- Yep! I think he's really focused on his defensive improvements to compliment his offense. He has been a lot different defensively lately. When he gets his total game together, he'll be unstoppable. Let's not forget, he's only 18,19? He's mentally young and looks like a freakin' senior.

You're right, he'll peak in the next few games.

Jesse Newell 9 years, 12 months ago

Just trying to let you know more where ISU was coming from.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

bhann- If you've ever read my many posts about X, I've never jumped on the fact that he will go pro. Oh no, to the contrary my friend. He needs to develop and learn the game better from a coach like CS. Let the Walls and Cousins go OAD. They'll be warming the pine because they won't understand the game. These kids think the NBA will be like high school or even their first year of college and they get a rude awakening when they play Iverson, LeBron, Pierce, Bibby, and many others. I'll laugh my head off when these kids go OAD and play one of these NBA stars and get schooled back to the bench with their tails between their legs. Rose really hasn't been all that great in the NBA. He is good, but he's learned to play team ball and play under control.

So, No! I don't think X should go pro. He should stay and learn much like BRush. All these kids need to get the pros out of their heads until at least their soph or junior years. BRush did himself an inadvertent favor by staying a few more years to learn.

Godisajayhawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Rose hasn't been all that great in the NBA? How do you figure?

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

Godisajayhawk- I said, "Rose really hasn't been all that great in the NBA." But Coach Calasleazy had to get him in the NBA so he could promote him to all his recruits. Rose isn't all that good at all in the NBA. He's average! But making $$$$$$

Chicago_JHawk 9 years, 12 months ago

truehawk - Rose was ROY last season! To say he "hasn't been all that great" is ridiculous.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 12 months ago

truehawk, You are crazy if you think he is not all that good. He is doing better than 90% of the point guards in the league right now.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

I remember last year Collins would make some bone headed plays and we all screamed for CS to pull Collins and to keep him from making those stupid driving plays he made a lot last year.

When CS was asked, he responded with some HCBS coaching psychology. He said that when Sherron made stupid plays, he found that leaving SC in the game, he tended to correct his own play. He learned that Collins would correct his play by actually leaving him in the game and embarrassing Collins was what worked for him. Perhaps HCBS is using some of that same coaching psychology with X. He is allowing X to reveal his own opps by leaving him in or starting him. He is showing him exactly what needs work. I think it's working, but just not as fast as we would like. But, X's defense is improving and his offense will come back when he feels more comfortable. X is growing up and learning to become a team player and to develop his defense, passing and overall knowledge of how to read opponents. Now look at Collins ...he's not perfect, but he's a beast and Mr Clutch! But he's also a Senior.

Incidentally, CS did bench X for the last few mins of this ISU game? I'll trust what CS is doing because he's trying to get these guys quickly ready for the post season. If you really look at this team, they are relatively still young!!

TT is the only one who seems to be consistently like a fish out of water. I would never suggest that he transfer though. He'll evolve and get it soon. He's just a slow learner. Like RussRob, it may not be until his junior or even senior year but he'll learn sooner or later. Incidentally, TT should realize that he is definitely not ready for the NBA. I don't think he even "tests the waters." This idea is insane for TT.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

I personally don't think Rose is taking the NBA by storm. I said he's good, but not all that good. It may be the facts you bring are by hype? He's a NCAA phenom, OAD and on a great Bulls team (ly), the only thing left to do was make him ROY!! Did he lead the Bulls to a World Championship?

You are right! All these guys are good in their own right. I don't have to agree based on the hype or because some player is voted ROY! Yeah...he's great on the court and off the court. He really earned every bit of that ROY! Please detect my sarcasm because it's every bit meant to be sarcastic. This guy deserves nothing by my standards. But thank God the NBA or fans don't follow my standards for POY or ROY!

Go Rose, ROY! Yippeee...and his little bros will follow his example: Wall and Cousins! These two are really deserving of POY in the NCAA because they are great! LOL If you believe this, you're smoking the same whacky weed they all smoke in kensucky.

Debbie Mangen 9 years, 12 months ago

Can someone tell me how many points Brackins scored? I need it for a paper. Thanks.

Joe Baker 9 years, 12 months ago

Well I've said too much and we can all agree on one thing...the Jayhawks 2010 NC!!

Rock Chalk Beat Fizzou

Scatterhawk 9 years, 12 months ago

Wait. A great Bulls team?

They are 19-22.

As for Rose, he's averagin 19 points, 6 assists, and 3 rebounds per game. Keep in mind he's only 21 years old. Is he LeBron James? No, but he's a pretty damned good NBA player. Probably on his way to being great.

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 12 months ago

The Shorthorns are dropping like a rock from the number one spot. Back to back losses.

Scatterhawk 9 years, 12 months ago

This is also funny: "If you've ever read my many posts about X, I've never jumped on the fact that he will go pro... Let the Walls and Cousins go OAD... These kids think the NBA will be like high school or even their first year of college and they get a rude awakening when they play Iverson, LeBron, Pierce, Bibby, and many others.

So, No! I don't think X should go pro. He should stay and learn much like BRush. All these kids need to get the pros out of their heads until at least their soph or junior years. BRush did himself an inadvertent favor by staying a few more years to learn."

Saying he'll be schooled by LeBron who didn't go to college, and Iverson and Bibby who only played two years. Then says he should stay like Rush, who is averaging 8 points and 4 rebounds per game and certainly not lighting up the NBA. Particularly compared to the "not that great" Derrick Rose.

Its okay to not know much about sports, but maybe you shouldn't spout off so loudly about them.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 12 months ago

This game, I think, may be a turning point. Seeing Robinson and Withey at 13 or so minutes each really gives this team a different look.

  1. Marcus: This guy has turned into a real player. It is obvious that motivation/effort are the only things that will hold him back. He has NBA talent, and can do 18 a game. His progress could really be the turning point for this team. I never thought his progress might define this team. His points open things up for Cole.
  2. X: Patience, everyone. Don't bench him. He's just in a swoon. Like a good stock, don't panic a bit because the market is down, or on a little bad news. On the contrary, stand behind him. Show him that he is the man. The fact is, without X playing to a high level, we won't win the title. I have full confidence in him and he will bounce back. Guaranteed. It's just a matter of when.
  3. Cole: Was terrific today. Having Marcus excel, and Withey in with him at times, will help him. I think the closure with his grandmother and getting over his breathing difficulties will equal a new player, or at least the Cole we know and love.
  4. Sherron: Just dial him up when needed.
  5. Withey: Showed better than anyone could have hoped. Concerned a little about the lack of bounce in his step, but clearly a presence down low. And the added height can really throw some teams for a look when he's in with Cole.
  6. Robinson: Like a box of chocolates; more playing time will limit the bad and increase the the good. Some have compared him to Dblock. Robinson has much more talent. Nick Collison in the making.
  7. Kieff: Odd man out now. Robinson and Withey both look better, and give us different dimensions. Competition is a wonderful thing. Perhap Kieff will show us what he's got.
  8. Morningstar: Should be the best 6th man around, not playing starter's minutes. But dead solid.
  9. Reed: Really wish EJ had this role, at the least. Reed goes all out, all the time.
  10. Taylor: Someone above said it best about Taylor .. in a stretch, we see the bucket + 1, and then a bad foul and a turnover. The best thing for this team is for him to explode and take back the 2 spot, or simply fade out of the rotation. Not in between. Here's hoping for the first option. I'm wondering if his hesitancy is that he gets blasted if he does take a three, or look to score. And thus when he does have an opportunity, he hesitates. Maybe. But I have just never seen that he has that big upside. I think he is what he is. 11: EJ: I wish I knew. I'm concerned he might transfer, though maybe he can see the high probability of starting next year (but after what has happened this season, who knows). Self said something about a high ceiling with him. Wish we could see him for 15 minutes.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 12 months ago

KU 84 MU 68

How can a team play college basketball for over a century and NOT make it to one final four? The answer is in Columbia. Dartmouth, Duequesne, Colorado, Holy Cross, Baylor, NYU, Wichita St., NC-Charlotte, SMU, Drake, Dayton, Iowa St., Seattle, and for goodness sake, Santa Clara, have all obtained Final Four immortality. But Missouri ... well they haven't. One wonder how, in 110 years, there can't be at least one fluke?

Has a school's fans ever held a higher opinion of themselves for no apparant reason? I have researched long and hard, and the conclusion is "no." This school hired Quinn Snyer over coach Self. This school hired Larry Smith. This school forced Norm Stewart ot leave, for Quinn Snyder. This school rests in a state with highways in shambles, major cities with urban decay, and banjos that play relentlessly further south, for those seeking deliverance. This school prides themselves on their civil war history in the border war .. weren't they a slave state? And its basketball arena, first known as the "Paige" Sports arena, was named for a college student who attended UCLA. Now it is simply Mizzou arena. Very original. Perhaps they could have harkened back to their basketball heritage, and pull a name worthy of recognition ... word is they tried. Paige was the best option. Mizzou fans are known to "storm the court" for wins .. in January .. against Oklahoma, or Oklahoma St. They've been known to start the season in the top 5, only to finish in the NIT. Making the tournament is success. Their favorite March pasttime is rooting against their rival.

Once known as a softball school, MU continues to emphasize its school of journalism. That is absolutely wonderful. They are so sure about their existence, that they lobbied the legislature to keep Missouri State from become "Missouri State", preferring the less threatening Southwest Missouri State. Their football stadium sits on Champions Drive, yet has there ever been a real "championship?" Their fans scream bloody murder when their own player steps out of bounds, sure that the ref moved the line. The Antlers sit around and giggle about making phone calls to opposing players' rooms, all the while spending lots of time together, in hotel rooms .. not sure what the antlers are for; don't want to know. Or drinking with coach Eustachy .. Natty light, I hear. Has a school every had major success yanked away at the last moment like this pathetic institution? The NU football "kicked" TD in the last second as fans run onto the field, thinking they had won. Tyus Edney. A #1 football ranking only to get punked by a real football school. The following season was to be THE season, but it crumbles without a Chase. And a 5th down to defeat vs. Colorado. It is cruel, isn't it? It seems Missouri is always shooting themselves in the foot.

Grrrrr Tigers.

Godisajayhawk 9 years, 12 months ago


That made a rainy day a bit better- Thank you

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

Bill self acts surprised that Whitney can play? Doesn't he watch the practices? And keeping Johnson on the bench and playing Reed and Morningstar so many minutes makes no sense. If Morningstar is so stupendous how come he can't even get the ball in bounds. Two games in a row he's messed up. He makes up for a lack of talent with lot's of hustle and I marvel at some of his recoveries. I guess Whitney is lousy in practice because in Self's press conference he acted totally surprised by Whitney's contribution. Go look at W's high school tapes and anyone can see he is destined to be a great center. Hope Bill can figure this all out before March. These are the kinds of games E Johnson needs to get more minutes because athleticism is something to work with and should be utilized because it has more up side with experience. Anyway it was a great game and Kansas should go far if the coach can figure out what he's doing.

Scott Smetana 9 years, 12 months ago

Welcome Withey, nice job!! X looks like Brandon as a freshman.... good things to come.

Ian Brown 9 years, 12 months ago

Bobbysfissure, I think Coach Self knows exactly what he's doing. In fact, I am quite sure he knows much more about basketball and this (his) team than you do. Oh my, Brady had a turnover, albeit a stupid one, but who cares; he also had seven points, three assists, seven rebounds and a steal. Xavier fired up like five air balls, why not complain about that (0-6 from three-point range, 2-10 overall from the field)? Also, I don't know who this "Whitney" guy is. There is, however, one Jeff Withey who plays for the Kansas Jayhawks. Come on, man. Shouldn't you know your team a little better since you, apparently, are a basketball genius and everything? I hope you figure everything out before march.

Also, with regard to "Whitney" and his stellar high school youtube videos, there is a slight (note sarcasm) difference between high school ball and D-1 college hoops. I'm not trying to take away from his game, in fact, I believe he had a great game, but just because he's "destined" to be a great center, does not mean he is one now, and I trust Coach Self to determine when he is a "great center".

Steve Gantz 9 years, 12 months ago

Beat misery that's all I care about now.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 12 months ago

Sorry guys & gals--I know you missed my posts today. Chuckberry, you continue to amaze me with your sense of humor!

My teenage son took the internet down by accident and was frantically trying to get it back up, but it was down for a long time. I did see the game on TV, thank goodness. I wanted to pull a Mangino or a "Psycho Martin" on my 17-year-old son, but I didn't. Here are some of my post-game observations:

**Soobawls--Carl Henry saying that his son was better than anyone else on the team--I thought Carl saying that was a stupid thing before the season started but it really looks stupid now, since X only scored, what, four points today? X will be alright. Someone said he is in a swoon, a slump, a funk, whatever--he's young and our coach, best in the USA, will get him going, even if it means sitting him on the bench and not starting a game. Self knows what he is doing.

**Withey & Cole--Self plays both and he looks like a genius!! Wow!! Every time Withey was grabbing a rebound, playing great defense, slamming the rock down the hoop, I was saying, "WOW!! I know it is overused, but it was a WOW performance. Self even said to Chris Piper after the game that Withey showed the College Basketball World that he is a player to be reckoned with. If Self decides to have Withey, Cole and Marcus on the front line--man, that is frickin' tough--it will be tough to score in the middle. I think too, it increases our chances to be a tougher team come March Madness time!

**Sherron Collins--Sherron said before the game he didn't want to score 42
points like Brackins did last season and lose the game. I think Sherron feels more comfortable and plays better when the Jayhawks are not relying on him all the time to score points. It takes the pressure off him. Sherron only scored 10 points but he gave out five or six assists. Still had a respectable game.

**Marcus Morris--Another stud game from him--knowing that he and Cole and Jeff W. could be playing at the same time, that would get anybody excited. Self is a master of putting the rotation of players in the game-- it will be VERY interesting with Missouri & K-State coming up, how this plays out!

**Jay Bilas--before College Game Day (tonight, it's Duke @ Clemson--next week, it's KU @ K-State--ohh, boy!), Jay Bilas said he though KU is still one of the best teams in the Nation and the best team in the Big 12. He said it's nice to know that the Jayhawks haven't played their best game yet and are 4-0 in the Conference. So, it gives me hope! BTW, K-State and Texas both lost today, as well as, Tennessee. Did not see the Tennessee game, but I did see both K-State and Texas. K-State looked terrible in the Little Apple against O-State; Texas played hard but couldn't defeat UCONN at their place. Texas had trouble hitting FTs--imagine that?!

Mike Kendall 9 years, 12 months ago


**TT--According to Self, he did some nice things. As long as, Tyshawn stays positive coming off the bench, he'll help the team better.

**Brady--What can I say? He had another solid performance.

**Final Conclusion--KU has Mizzou for Big Monday in AFH--place will be rocking! Then, comes KSU in Manhattan--God, I can't wait to spoil their little party when the ESPN big boys come to Aggieville!!!! The Jayhawks are in a good position to take these next two games--just keep playing lights out!

Good luck on Monday, Jayhawks--it will be a track meet with the Tigers!!

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

ibrown3: What happened to ibrown 1 and 2? Self indicated at his press conference that without the fouls on the twins Withey probably wouldn't have gotten in the game and that the fouls were a blessing in disguise. Did I say I was an expert? I was watching Kansas basketball before you were born, so don't get all snippy. And as a long time fan I think I have earned the right to make a comment or two without being ridiculed for my poor spelling since this isn't an English class or anything and since everyone knows who I was talking about. I think Self will admit that he is still learning and that is a good thing. I just think it would better when March rolls around if he had given more playing time to his most athletic players. He actually held out Cole, in my humble opinion, more than he should have in his freshman year and everyone was shocked when he did so well for us in the NC game. EJ (I prefer full names but I often can't spell them so like so many others I guess I will succumb to the use of acronyms as so many of you do) has special talent and now he just needs more experience. He won't get it unless he gets to play more. In any event, it is always good to hear the coach has learned something. Please, with us old folks misspellings should be aloud. .

Ian Brown 9 years, 12 months ago

The difference between Withey and Whitney is more than spelling. I don't think you have a problem spelling, but rather a problem hearing (you did say you are old). According to your post, you either watched or listened to Self's press conference. If Self was pronouncing Withey correctly, I have a hard time believing one with an average to below-average ability to spell would misspell the aforementioned pronoun "Whitney." However, I could imagine one who is hard of hearing mistaking the name Withey for "Whitney," in that, Withey just is not that common a name, where as, the latter is. Anyhow, I'm tired of arguing over such insignificant semantics.

On the other hand, you do ask, "Did I say I was an expert?" Well, no. Not explicitly. However, the way in which you criticized Coach Self and his ability to judge talent and coach HIS team seems to indicate (implicitly) that you know more about this team than the current coach who, coincidentally, has a National Championship under his belt and could be on his way to earning another within the next couple months. Sure he's still learning. Learning is process which takes place throughout an entire life. Nonetheless, I do believe he is in a better position to decide what is right for our team than you. (No disrespect intended.)

As for the whereabouts of ibrown 1 and 2, I am not sure that they exist on this site. I chose the number 3, for it is my favorite number and the day of the month in which I was born.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 12 months ago

poster 100...where are you!! Your dream has come true Cole and Jeff on the floor at the same time!! God I hope Cole stays one more year..the salt and pepper twin towers quartet would be awesome!!

Soobawls, you're really starting to grow on me...if you look like Angelina Jolie, the deal is sealed.

Jaybate, where artis thou?? Although HighEliteMajor and mikendal did admirable jobs of filling in.

Bobbyfissure..welcome back..long time, no hear. Still one of my all-time favorite ID's.

KY_Wildcat..I know you haven't posted yet but, yes you're number one, you have the greatest team in NCAA history and Coach Cal won't lose a game for the next three years, yadda,yadda, yadda, etc.

HCBS..come Monday pound it into the middle..put Cole, Jeff, and the twins in at the same time and just ram the ball down the Misery tiggers throars!!

bballdiehard 9 years, 12 months ago

I have to agree with OakvilleJHawk regarding Jaybate. Jaybate, while some may hate on you in their posts, I ,for one, stated frequenting this site for no other reason than your posts (and those of you that hate oh Jaybate can kiss off... there may be a nonsensical post mixed in now ang again, but I've never read more basketbally [it's a word in my mind] inttelectual posts than Jnewells' posts's during the game and Jaybate's evaluations post game. Jaybate's breaksowns of the coaches' mindsets, provided post game, make me feel so much smarter about the game of basketbal than I actually am.) I sorely miss Jaybate's breakdowns regarding the games, the strategies used, and the historical references to the strategies implemented by Coach Self and his opposition. They seemed so much more abundent in comparison to last year's season and this year's.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 12 months ago

jayhawkinmullen (anonymous) says... truehawk, You are crazy if you think he is not all that good. He is doing better than 90% of the point guards in the league right now.

***This is just a stupid post and someone who must not know the NBA.

There's 30 PGs in the NBA right now.

I, AT LEAST, would not take D.Rose over D.Harris (yes, down some statistically this year since the Nets themselves sukk so bad), Billups, T.Parker, Der. Williams, Nash, A.Brooks (or at least what we've seen him morphing into this season), Ru. Westbrook (don't underrate him!), C.Paul, and very likely even B.Davis. That would put him better than only 67% of the league! Not 90.

KULA 9 years, 12 months ago

X needs some serious pine time. All he does on offense is hang around the 3pt line. Is he afraid to go to the hole cuz he might get hurt and damage his pro career? I'll take TT over him any day. And anyone else notice how much better Cole looks with Withey in the game? How come he hasn't been playing at least 4 min/half like Cole did when he was a freshman? And did I hear Self said something about wearing them down during a timeout? What a novel idea, Coach-With-A-Ten-Man-Rotation! Wish you would've thought of that during the Tennessee game. In the meantime, sit X on his butt til he learns how to get involved in the offense.

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

Brown, may I call you Brown Derby which was one of my favorite places to eat. I can't help it if Jeff's family can't spell Whitney which I might add is a noun not a pronoun. I knew Black3 but your the first Brown3 I ever heard of. I just thought you might be a third generation Brown. Thanks for clarifying. Ever heard of Charlie Black, if I remember correctly he led the Jayhawks to a perfect 10 and 0 season back in 1943 and averaged 11.4 points per game. If we only had names like Black, Brown and Blue with numbers added how much simpler life would be. And in the future please write in all caps as I am a little hard of hearing.

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

Brown Derby: I write the way I do because I like to get a rise out of people and it seems to never fail. We must always strive for passion in life. Last year I said our beloved Russel Robinson was a master of the sloppy pass and the site erupted. The Marshall of the sight wrote me a full page letter letting me know that that kind of post would not be tolerated. By now we all know free speech is just Corporations and religious fakers. So I am trying to keep it down and not having much to say.

With the kind of talent Self has the team should be farther along than they are. But it's good not to peak too soon. Last year I wrote a similar post and low and behold they got pretty good by March. Bill Self never won much of anything. Games are won by hard working and talented athletes. For this the coaches are paid millions and now they are getting ready to pay that idiot in Manhattan a large sum for winning one game and making a fool out of himself most of time. There is a guy that should chill out. Most local commentators think this jackass is some kind of genius. I think he is just an overbearing dumbbell. Any Moron can coach a group of All Americans and win some games look at Bobby Knight. It's only basketball. Dribble, pass, put it in the basket and keep the other guy from doing the same. Not exactly rocket science.

In our drab little lives we think it's important but saving our representative democracy from the rich and stupid is really what is important and helping those in Haiti who have been exploited for centuries and paying college athletes something fair instead of all these coaches (and other CEOs) millions would be more smart.

In a perfect world Frank Martin would be a prison guard.

Robert Murphy 9 years, 12 months ago

Hey ralster. I don't think any of the opinions I have expressed on here should be described as crap. When people say things you don't agree with do you automatically think they are idiots and fools. By the way what is a ralster? It sounds like a rooster that's been in solitary confinement a little too long. You sure like to call names. And who is we? Do you think you speak for the entire blog. The people in Haiti are "fake" suffering? A little self criticism can be a good thing once in a while (pun intended).

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