Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Kicker backs out of commitment to KU


Justin Castor, a kicker from Arvada, Col., has backed out of his commitment to play football next season at Kansas University, according to

“This past week I received offers from Arizona State University and the University of Colorado,” Castor told Monday. “With everything going on at Kansas, I just wanted to re-open things and explore these new options since I had committed so early in the recruiting process.”

The departure of Castor, who stands 6-foot-5 and is a two-star recruit, leaves the Jayhawks with 13 known commitments in the Class of 2010.


Aaron Carpenter 8 years, 4 months ago

Oh no what are we going to do now? Maybe HCTG can put in a call to Kathy Ireland, she used to have quite the leg.

Bill Kackley 8 years, 4 months ago

All kidding aside. It's time to start seeing something positive. Gill has not added one new recruit and has lost a couple.

KU 8 years, 4 months ago

Most programs don't offer scholarships to kickers. We have to get a kid that can put the ball in the endzone on kickoffs. Branstetter is a good kid and all, but we wouldn't know about his tackling proficiency if he could get a touchback.

jakzhumans 8 years, 4 months ago

kackley - That's not correct. Quinn Mecham, the #2 rated Juco QB in the country this year, was not a commit to us before Gill got here, now he is. There's been more progress than you think, give him some time.

Ronnard 8 years, 4 months ago

Are really worried about a kicker backing out? What is he going to be a better kicker at Colorado or Arizona State??? Well I guess they may score more...

Andy Tweedy 8 years, 4 months ago

Commits leave every year at this time, this doesn't mean much. What is hard is waiting to see who the new staff DOES bring in. Things will work out just fine, but usually there are more new commitments by now, a reflection on having a new staff that has to get its ducks all lined up.

KU 8 years, 4 months ago

Gill didn't announce his full staff until January 5 and you think he should have new recruits lined up to sign already? Yeah, he had a few guys on staff late in December, but that's not the ideal time to be out pounding doors.

Topside 8 years, 4 months ago

what do you care who the coach is? you're a kicker

Topside 8 years, 4 months ago

nvm forget that last post I'm sure the kicking coach was fired with the old regime that's probably why.

Ben Kane 8 years, 4 months ago

I don't think we should worry about losing a potential kicker, specially a two-star one.

that being said, why don't we give coach Gill some time.

justanotherfan 8 years, 4 months ago

With all of the fallout from the Mangino situation, we are fortunate that Gill has been able to keep most of the class intact. I'm sure in the next couple of weeks you will see players from Texas Tech and South Florida start reopening their recruitment. Maybe even some players from USC, or Washington (if Sarkisian takes the USC job) or Notre Dame and Cincinnati will be available.

Coach Gill's first task was to retain the recruits HE WANTED out of this class. Next was to set a coaching staff. Now that he has done those two things, he can round out his class. It's not like Mangino was a renowned recruiter. Gill kept the top half of the class intact. Now hopefully he fills this class out with some more top line athletes.

Robert Brock 8 years, 4 months ago

Are there a lot of uncommitted good-quality players remaining to pick from in the Class of 2010? Players who would seriously consider KU?

justanotherfan 8 years, 4 months ago

Hard to say. There are several uncommitted players in the Rivals 250 rankings (top 250 players). There are also lots of uncommitted players in the position rankings (several WR, DE, RB, OL, LB, CB, S, and ATH). We are still in the hunt for some of these guys, particularly guys from Texas, Missouri and Oklahoma.

Bill Kackley 8 years, 4 months ago

Mechum originally commited under Mangino, decommitted and then recommited. And yes a kicker is important. Our current kicker can't get the ball in the end zone and teams continued to start their offense on the 30 or 30+ yard lines.

KUBlue0809 8 years, 4 months ago

JakzHumans....Mecham, the QB you speak of, committed to Kansas after we lost a QB commitment from a very talented guy from Texas, Walker. He will now be playing for Arkansas.

Mike Johns 8 years, 4 months ago

he is just an idiot kicker...

not a big deal here

hawk316 8 years, 4 months ago

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who backs out of their commitment to KU now risks missing out on a terrific experience. Because of the coaching philosophy of Turner Gill and his staff, the kind of person he is, and the positive environment that he and his staff will create, KU is going to be a very special place to be if you are a football player. Nevertheless, I understand that Lawrence is not the right choice for everyone. Each player will need to do what's best for his future, and there are many factors that are in play. No need to disparage those who choose to play elsewhere. But, in the days to come, if I may repeat myself, KU is going to be a very special place to be if you are a football player.

Bryan Fisher 8 years, 4 months ago

Have you seen the girls of ASU? They're all the hot ones from California that were too stupid to get in their state's schools.

huskercarpenter 8 years, 4 months ago

kickers and punters play a huge role in how a game unfolds, they are very important. field position and the ability to score points through field goals and extra points can be the difference in winning or losing close games.

strength and conditioning coaches and a new kicking coach may be able to improve what they have at that position. but compitition is what is best.

i still believe that turner gill will have things going in the right direction, from the get go.

Jonathan Briles 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm surprised noone has made a mention of the DB from Texas that Gill got. His name is Ray Mitchell. He may only be a two star recruit but I do recall a certain two star defensive back out of texas who turned out to be an all american for us. Not trying to say that Mitchell will do the same but at least we have a good solid kid from Texas.

MitchumMan 8 years, 4 months ago

If we really need a kicker we would offer Carey Spear a scholarship (Has medium interest in KU). He's the 10th best kicker out of this years recruits and the kid appears to be pretty smart. He's got a 4.5 GPA and scored a 32 on his ACT.

OCJHAWK 8 years, 4 months ago

We'll pull an OK class this year, but next years record and style of play will be a barometer of the future. I think KU and Turner Gill have a breakout year next year with our current players. The new staff has Nationwide HS coaching contacts in areas we havn't targeted recently. A good strong year will bring in the interest from quality players, especially if we can keep up the TV exposure.

We will fill out our class with good players at least on par with recent classes, especially if we hold serve with the current commitments. If Turner Gill turns out to bring KU to be a perpetual power, this years class will be special to him. Therefore they will be lucky to be a part of it.

OCJHAWK 8 years, 4 months ago

Does anyone know how many scholorships we have available this year?

mondhawk 8 years, 4 months ago

who is the prospect from Alabama on the other site. Does anybody know

MitchumMan 8 years, 4 months ago

It's Judd Hunt. He's a 2 star OT that's already committed to Middle Tenn State

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 4 months ago

Turner Gill has brought guys back to the team who were leaving because of Mangino. We will get a reenergized Angus Quigley, and we may finally see the beast in Vernon Brooks.

Kyle Helmer 8 years, 4 months ago

Nice call acsgreens. And remember who Kathy Ireland made the kick against....KU!!!

TrueBlue92 8 years, 4 months ago

Line of the Day: "Then again, considering where this story is headed, Carroll has less in common with John McKay than John Calipari."

It's the last line in this article:

I pretty much fell out of my chair . . .

Joseph Kuebel 8 years, 4 months ago

When the Jayhawks announced they hired Reggie Mitchell it was known they might open recruiting options in places like Chicago and Detroit, among several others. The first sign of that is in place with Fabbians Ebbele. The lineman from the Windy City said he has lined up an official visit to Kansas. We have the latest thoughts from him after meeting the Kansas coaches.

The state of Alabama has never been a recent target area for the Kansas football program. It looks like that is quickly changing. Members of the Kansas staff have been in Alabama to recruit first team, all-state selection that has set a visit to Lawrence. We have the latest update on the two-way prospect and what he is saying about the Jayhawks.

January is going to be a busy month for Adrian Lee. College recruiters are lining to get one of the top uncommitted corners in Texas on a visit. Lee is stuarting to fill up his final weekends with big name schools and it looks like the Jayhawks may enter the picture. We had a chance to catch up Lee and get his thoughts on Kansas.

Kackley- All were doing is losing players? Gimme a real football player over a kicker, please...

BTW...the recruits above are a different class of athlete than was brought in with Mangino. I can't wait to have a fast, MOTIVATED, real team to cheer for!

Joseph Kuebel 8 years, 4 months ago

Go cheer for baylor if you want a loser...cuz Kansas Football isn't gonna be like that anymore, ya hater!

actorman 8 years, 4 months ago

"Most programs don't offer scholarships to kickers."

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? As far as I know, there not a single school that DOESN'T offer scholarships to kickers. On what do you base that statement?

troutsee 8 years, 4 months ago

Great info Calihawk. Let's hope it's accurate and we reel them in.

LJW, I think the Jayhawk nation is thirsty for more football articles. Please provide.

In reply to some of the above, getting a reliable kicker is huge, and a program doesn't get good one without offering a scholarship.

huskercarpenter 8 years, 4 months ago

thanks to all who are putting the little tidbits out for us to read. even if some of the info doesn't turn out correct or are not able to close the deals, its nice to know some direction in which the coaching staff is going.

now, as a poster i think it is our responsibility that when ever we are wrong we should own up to our mistakes. having said that, i was very critical of colt mccoy in a post late last week, over the next couple of days i learned things that showed me that i had probably put my foot in my mouth (not probably). to colt i am sorry, and if i ruffled anybody's feathers i appologize.

MitchumMan 8 years, 4 months ago

We might as well go after Tennessee's recruits as well because Kiffin is off to USC. A lot of 4 stars committed to a school with no head coach... Go get'em Gill & Co.!!!!!

Joseph Kuebel 8 years, 4 months ago

Mitchum- Yea, there seems to be more coaching movement this year than in the past couple..Hopefully HCTG can get a couple more 4-star anywhere, or some immediate help particularly at the D-Line, and LB position.

murph 8 years, 4 months ago

Nice call, Huskercarpenter. It takes a lot of class to admit you misjudged someone. I was pretty hard on you last week for that post - it looks to me like I may have misjudged you, too. I'll try to be less sarcastic from now on...

Mike Kendall 8 years, 4 months ago

Why should we be worried about a kicker when we are supposedly scoring touchdowns? I would be more worried about getting a half-way decent defense on the field!!!!!

huskercarpenter 8 years, 4 months ago

mikendal, the best way i can explain to you why you need to worry about a kicker/punter, is that you will not always be scoring touchdowns. if you look at nebr. season last year and take away alex henry their kicker/punter, they don't make the big12 championship and i'm really not sure they even go to a bowl game. a good kicker/punter is a huge weapon, and can make things easier for the offense and defense. field position is one of the most important aspects in a team being successful or not. just ask any football coach.

Mike Kendall 8 years, 4 months ago


Yep, good point. I guess field position is common knowledge and key to being successful. My bad! Good example on Nebraska--that explains your point.

KU 8 years, 4 months ago

actorman.....huskercarpenter mentioned a pretty darn good kicker from NU, Alex Henery. The kid was a walk-on at Nebraska. If you don't believe me, go to the Husker website and you will find:

Before Nebraska (Burke HS) Henery was one of the top walk-ons in Nebraska’s 2006 class. He earned Omaha World-Herald first-team All-Nebraska and first-team Lincoln Journal Star Super State honors as a punter. Henery averaged 41.4 yards per punt as a senior, and also connected on 6-of-10 field goals and 37-of-38 extra-point tries.

I'd say more than half of the programs in the country do not offer scholarships to kickers/punters. Nebraska has put a couple of punters in the NFL that were walk-ons over the years.

If I recall, Alonso Rojas left his first school and went back to Florida because nobody was offering scholarships--everybody wanted him to walk-on. KU offered and the rest is history.

huskercarpenter 8 years, 4 months ago

ku, i did not know that henery was a walk on. teaching me about my own team, very impressive!

henery was such a weapon that the defense made him an honorary blackshirt for the bowl game, then carl pelini said they would probably let him keep it.

kstrebor 8 years, 4 months ago

I couldn't sleep at all last night. I hope we still have throwers, catchers, blockers, and runners.

William James 8 years, 4 months ago

I dont understand why anyone would decommit from KU. Havent they heard what a super guy our new coach is? And he said "recruit" a whole bunch at his acceptance speech.

familytruxster 8 years, 4 months ago

They may walk-on for the 1st year if they have to but then they get a ride. As far as putting the ball in the endzone on the kickoff, most kickers out there could do that at any time. The special teams coaches usually like them to hang it up on like the one. with some hang time. This allows the kickoff team to get down and cover, hopefully inside the 20. The only time they kick out is when there is a threat that they are kicking to. They will also kick a pooch kick like Texas did to Bama rather than give a returner like Arenas a chance at running it back.

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