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Nebraska defeats Kansas, 67-60

  • 7 p.m., Feb. 10, 2010
  • Allen Fieldhouse, Lawrence, KS

Originally published February 10, 2010 at 09:12p.m., updated February 10, 2010 at 10:08p.m.

Oh, so close: KU threatens NU, but falters

Kansas coach Bonnie Henrickson shows frustration after the Jayhawks gave up the lead to Nebraska in the final minutes, losing 67-60.

Kansas coach Bonnie Henrickson shows frustration after the Jayhawks gave up the lead to Nebraska in the final minutes, losing 67-60.

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KU women fall to undefeated Nebraska

The 22-0 Nebraska Huskers kept rolling Wednesday, this time defeating Kansas at Allen Fieldhouse.

For a while Wednesday night, it looked like the Kansas University women’s basketball team was on the verge of its biggest victory, arguably, in coach Bonnie Henrickson’s six-year tenure at the school.

In the end, however, the Jayhawks couldn’t overcome a number of late-game miscues — including three straight turnovers during one key stretch — in falling, 67-60, to undefeated and No. 3-ranked Nebraska for just their second loss of the season at Allen Fieldhouse.

“You’re shooting 69 percent in the second half, you’d be advised to get shots up,” said Henrickson, whose team’s strong second-half comeback attempt fell just short. “And we went three possessions without doing that. If you’re going to beat a team like Nebraska, you’ve got to be tough. It’s a missed opportunity. That’s gut-wrenching. They attacked us, and we didn’t respond.”

Still, it was hard to argue with the effort.

Following a lackluster first half that sent them into intermission with a 10-point deficit, the Jayhawks responded by opening the second half with possibly their best stretch of basketball this season. They connected on their first 10 field-goal attempts, erasing the Nebraska lead before tying the game at 41 with 14:10 remaining. They took their first lead at 13:38 and didn’t miss a field goal until 12:18 remained.

Like it always seems to, however, reality eventually set in.

The Huskers turned three straight Kansas turnovers — one by LaChelda Jacobs, two by freshman guard Monica Engelman — into points, part of an 11-2 run in which Nebraska was able to regain the lead, 55-53, with 6:53 left.

Kansas managed to keep things close over the next five minutes, until Nebraska corralled an offensive rebound following a missed Lindsey Moore free throw and Yvonne Turner connected on an uncontested three-pointer to give the Huskers a 64-57 lead with 1:12 remaining and effectively end the Jayhawks’ hopes of an upset.

“You just have to keep pushing,” said Engelman, who followed her 16-point performance against Kansas State on Sunday with 13 points against the Huskers before fouling out. “You can’t be passive. If it means going to the boards, getting offensive rebounds, that’s toughness. Going after loose balls, running in transition, picking up your person.”

In the end, it came down to turnovers and rebounding. Kansas, which had won three straight after dropping four of its first five in Big 12 Conference play, turned the ball over 19 times and gave up 20 offensive rebounds that the Huskers turned into 14 second-chance points.

The loss also negated a pair of particularly strong offensive performances from Kansas forwards Carolyn Davis (17 points, 11 rebounds, three blocks, two steals) and Aishah Sutherland (12 points on 6-of-6 shooting), both of whom have picked up the offensive slack since All-America candidate/leading scorer Danielle McCray suffered a season-ending anterior

cruciate ligament injury last week.

“I feel like we’ve gotten over the fact that she’s not going to play anymore, and we’re just trying to focus on what we need to focus on to play now,” Davis said.

It was hard to watch Wednesday’s game, however, and not wonder whether the presence of either one of the Jayhawks’ injured standouts — McCray or point guard Angel Goodrich — would have swung things the other way. Goodrich, after all, had proven adept at protecting the ball, while McCray typically has been the team’s offensive spark plug over the course of the past two seasons.

But afterward, Henrickson showed little interest in discussing what-ifs.

“What I love about our group right now is we don’t feel sorry for ourselves,” she said. “We don’t want anybody to feel sorry for us. We want to win, and we’ve just got to find a way to do that.”

Comments

Layne Pierce 10 years ago

Hawks could have won this one with just a couple of shots and a little more poise. There is a girl coming next year from Colorado and she is going to really fit in nice.

I wonder if Boogard will be back next year. As a team they are getting better because they have to. I believe they will barely finish with a winning season, and for a team that loses its two best players in the middle of the season that is not too bad.

Engleman and Smith are just gonna get better. I hope Goodrich is back, otherwise point guard is the one position we have to really get better at.

Cody Stumma 10 years ago

The Lady Jayhawks played with heart tonight. They should of won this game.

To the fans: That was the most pathetic turnout of a fanbase at Allen Field House I have ever seen. You should all be ashamed! There were almost more Husker fans than Jayhawk fans there tonight. So, I'm asking all of you who read this:

I want to see those stands full for the Texas game on Saturday (YES, SATURDAY). Game time 1 pm. Don't worry, you'll still have time to watch the Men's Game later that evening.

Is it that hard to come and watch (even on TV) a Women's Basketball Game and support your own team?

If so, then you should really consider asking yourself if you're a true Jayhawk fan or not.

Omegatron 10 years ago

To all you people who keep posting that they want the coach fired and a new coach brought in. Take a good hard look at this game.

There is virtually no student support what-so-ever.

You think a new coach is going to make things better? Get you in the top ten?

Sorry to burst your bubble. Until you can convince the student body to start showing up for major games. A new coach is going to have the exact same problem as this one...

No Home Court Advantage!

Phillbert 10 years ago

Great effort by an injury-depleted team, and the underclassmen continue to impress. Lackluster crowd turnout for such a big matchup. (Though unless we offer free beer, it'll be tough to draw students.)

Tonight was when we really missed Angel - we needed a solid ball handler at the point against Nebraska's pressure, and we just don't have that. A lot of our turnovers were because of sloppy passes or getting our pockets picked.

Fortunately, we should have some depth at PG next year. Hopefully Goodrich will return, plus we also signed Keena Mays, who is the #18 PG recruit nationally and 61st overall, and CeCe Harper, who is the #30 PG recruit.

BUT...next year isn't here yet and this team showed it still has plenty of fight left in it even after losing McCray and Goodrich.

merg311 10 years ago

To be perfectly honest, it's women's basketball. Even if they were a top 10 team I wouldn't go watch.

I would assume this is the mindset of most people.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"merg311 (anonymous) says...

To be perfectly honest, it's women's basketball. Even if they were a top 10 team I wouldn't go watch.

I would assume this is the mindset of most people."

Exhibit A of why we are the only traditional basketball power that don't dominate in both men's and women's basketball.

Bill Lee 10 years ago

Omegatron, I guess you prefer women swinging on a pole, collecting tips in their g-strings. The KU women are athletes who play the game of basketball, and their games deserve a crowd of fans. If you won't go to the fieldhouse, check out one of their televised games. I'm guessing you don't support the local high school teams either.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"misterlee (anonymous) says...

Omegatron, I guess you prefer women swinging on a pole, collecting tips in their g-strings. The KU women are athletes who play the game of basketball, and their games deserve a crowd of fans. If you won't go to the fieldhouse, check out one of their televised games. I'm guessing you don't support the local high school teams either."

Been to every game. Both Men and women....

... School pride. That's what this comes down to. Either people have it or they don't?

It appears that there is more school pride at other traditional basketball powers then there are around here.

I mean, more Husker fans then Jayhawks in allenfield house! C'mon Man!

Omegatron 10 years ago

... and about the local High School teams... I'm a Lawrence High grad.

Cody Stumma 10 years ago

I actually never attended a High School Basketball game since I came to college. I hated it when I was forced to go because I was active in band during High School. At my High School, the student section sucked. Nobody cheered. They were always on their cell phones... texting... great support. This is why I care about college basketball. Atmosphere and people actually caring about the sport. It is getting better at the Women's games, but tonight was down right terrible... and the few students that actually attended the game, could agree with me.

Again, great Job tonight ladies... let's upset Texas on Saturday as a nice consolation prize and show the NCAA tourney to not count you girls out yet!

ophusker 10 years ago

KU played a great game. Engleman is really a talented and confident player. She will do well. This was the best second half challenge of Nebraska all season. Best of luck KU.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"This is why I care about college basketball. Atmosphere and people actually caring about the sport. It is getting better at the Women's games, but tonight was down right terrible... and the few students that actually attended the game, could agree with me."

Amen.

And the Texas game is going to be another good game that I hope people will show up for, show their school pride, jayhawk pride, and make Allen fieldhouse a home court advantage for the women's basketball team.

jahawker2004 10 years ago

Is this the best the LJW can do in its coverage of a Div I team that plays in the Cathedral of college basketball? A handful of paragraphs?

Really, the women's team deserves a beat writer from the LJW and the KC Star.

Hard to build attendance when you get minimal ink from the local newspapers.

phogthedog 10 years ago

Reason to mope: crucial turnovers and the guards needing to watch the bench closely for Bonnie's instructions, rather than moving the ball down the court. Biggest reason to mope? Lack of student support.

Reasons to hope: Despite not having our point guard and our preseason Big 12 Player of the Year, we shot 49%, Carolyn and Monica (freshman) scored 30 points, and Aisha also was spectacular.

merg311....get a life. If you aren't going to attend games, stop posting. We don't need your negativity.

MinnesotaJay 10 years ago

I was listening to the radio broadcast from the road last night. Those announcers are awesome, by the way.

I was thrilled, not by the outcome, of course, but rather by the fact that our Jayhawks didn't lose this game because of a skills or effort deficit. They simply didn't have the depth to keep from going into fatigue at the end. We needed fresher legs down the stretch. Obviously, Danielle and Angel would have made a huge difference. But, I'm just plain tickled with the personnel we do have. And, Bonnie is fine. She's more than fine. Incredibly bad luck with injuries isn't her fault.

MinnesotaJay 10 years ago

Incidentally, one m** fin' pop-up per page change is more than a tad heavy. This site is becoming unwieldy as h*ll.

bluzhawk 10 years ago

The Jayhawk Nation would love to see you give Texas a good spankin' on Saturday. I'll be there.

KU 10 years ago

Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Personally, I believe the fans start to show up AFTER the product on the court is worth the entertainment dollar. KU's women don't "deserve" a great crowd just because they play. Be honest, this program has been excruciatingly inconsistent under Bonnie. She's a nice person and all, but don't tell me KU's women "deserve" to have fan support when they can't put a team on the floor that's competitive in this league.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"KU (anonymous) says...

Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Personally, I believe the fans start to show up AFTER the product on the court is worth the entertainment dollar. KU's women don't "deserve" a great crowd just because they play. Be honest, this program has been excruciatingly inconsistent under Bonnie. She's a nice person and all, but don't tell me KU's women "deserve" to have fan support when they can't put a team on the floor that's competitive in this league."

That would be true... if they ever had it to begin with. Be honest. The fan/student support has also been excruciatingly inconsistent throughout the history of the program.

And they do have a team on the floor that is competitive in this league.

Hills_KU2007 10 years ago

Speaking from an Alums perspective, it would be nice to see a little more support at the women's basketball games. They do have talent and anyone that has ever played and/or watched sports should know that there is no better feeling than having your fans pack your arena/fieldhouse and cheer like crazy for you. It truly sucks to see more opposing team fans then your own, and quite frankly it's embarrassing. As for the people who don't attend games and are still calling for Bonnie's head, just show up for a couple of games. They practically give the tickets away, and a little bit of positive support never hurt anyone.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"KU (anonymous) says...

Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?"

BTW, If the chicken are the fans/students, and the egg is the recruits. It had better be the chicken.

Top recruits want to play in large venues in front of large crowds. Not a good selling point if those large crowds are the opposing team's!

Phillbert 10 years ago

Well, we saw with the WNIT final that fans will attend - if it is a special game and a big deal is made about it. And frankly, with the injuries this year, I think a lot of people around town figured the season was essentially over so why bother going.

What needs to happen is for the next step to be taken to where we are consistently good and are competing for the Big 12 title. If last night's game had been a matchup between league leaders, fans would have been there.

But it isn't just us noticing that KU fans (and I'd say this applies to students and non-students alike) are fickle. Mechelle Voepel of ESPN wasn't kind on her Twitter feed from the game last night:

BTW, while KU has a nice-sized crowd, student support for the Jayhawk women is just awful, basically non-existent. Always has been about 15 hours ago from web

# Yes, they are spoiled by great men's team, but even North Carolina's women have a student section that makes some noise. about 15 hours ago from web

KU fans care for men's hoops and football - IF and only IF - football is good. The rest of their sports they ignore. Nebraska not like that. about 15 hours ago from web

I want to credit the KU fans who DO come to women's hoops, but have always wondered why there isn't more school pride for all sports here. about 15 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/mechellev

Michael Leiker 10 years ago

Omegatron - No student support whatsoever? People that expect student/fan support for non-winning women's athletics amaze me (and to expect it for a program that hasn't won for 10 years may border on insanity). Totally disconnected from reality. It's not fun to watch unless it's a good team, period. Get used to it. The egg comes first.

Fact is that Bonnie is Lew's only real hire and she's just not very good. And now we have good ole Turner to look forward to. High Hopes.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"leikness (anonymous) says...

Omegatron - No student support whatsoever?"

Prove me wrong. Point to a game outside the W-N-I-T where there has been a strong student section in the last 20 years. Pictures or video would be nice.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"Phillbert (anonymous) says...

Well, we saw with the WNIT final that fans will attend - if it is a special game and a big deal is made about it. And frankly, with the injuries this year, I think a lot of people around town figured the season was essentially over so why bother going.

What needs to happen is for the next step to be taken to where we are consistently good and are competing for the Big 12 title. If last night's game had been a matchup between league leaders, fans would have been there."

Fans at another school cough cough Tennessee, would've shown up just cause the other team was ranked and there's always a possibility of an upset.

"But it isn't just us noticing that KU fans (and I'd say this applies to students and non-students alike) are fickle. Mechelle Voepel of ESPN wasn't kind on her Twitter feed from the game last night:

BTW, while KU has a nice-sized crowd, student support for the Jayhawk women is just awful, basically non-existent. Always has been."

+1

"# Yes, they are spoiled by great men's team, but even North Carolina's women have a student section that makes some noise."

North Carolina, UConn, Duke, every basketball power but right here where basketball began. Sad.

"# KU fans care for men's hoops and football - IF and only IF - football is good. The rest of their sports they ignore. Nebraska not like that."

Sad but true.

"# I want to credit the KU fans who DO come to women's hoops, but have always wondered why there isn't more school pride for all sports here. "

If I knew the answer to that question I'd be in Vegas....

http://twitter.com/mechellev

Omegatron 10 years ago

"KSA_21_3503 (anonymous) says...

Omegatron is delusional.

No one is going to go watch this horrible team led by this horrible coach. It is possible that no one will watch the team with a new coach, but that is pure speculation. The fact is: no one wants to go to a game right now. More people in the stands isn't going to change the product on the court. A new coach at least carries the possibility of raising excitement about the program. Bonnie is terrible and it is time to fire her. Until that happens, no one will go to a girl's basketball game. "

Not pure speculation. Reality. No coach is going to be successful here without a loyal fanbase.

No top level recruit is going to want to play at kansas (with no fanbase) over the likes of Duke, nc, UConn, where the fanbase is strong.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"More people in the stands isn't going to change the product on the court. A new coach at least carries the possibility of raising excitement about the program. Bonnie is terrible and it is time to fire her. Until that happens, no one will go to a girl's basketball game. "

To add to my previous post...

The product on the court is not the problem. It the product in the stands. The product on the court is talented and competitive and will be more so next year. The product in the stands... I doubt will ever improve even if the team makes the NCAA's every year.

Once again this is about school pride, and the lack there of...

Omegatron 10 years ago

I knew something was bothering me...

Edit:

"KSA_21_3503 (anonymous) says...

Omegatron is delusional.

No one is going to go watch this horrible team led by this horrible coach. It is possible that no one will watch the team with a new coach, but that is pure speculation. The fact is: no one wants to go to a game right now. More people in the stands isn't going to change the product on the court. A new coach at least carries the possibility of raising excitement about the program. Bonnie is terrible and it is time to fire her. Until that happens, no one will go to a girl's basketball game. "

Not pure speculation. Reality.

No new coach is going to be more successful here without a loyal fanbase that is going to support it through the good times and the bad.

Until a loyal fanbase is established, all bringing in a new coach is going to do is have the about the same amount of success, maybe a little more, maybe a little less, over the same time period.

Cause they are going to have the same difficulties winning the recruiting battles over the likes of UConn, Duke, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc.. that those recruits know have better fan support and school pride...

scholz 10 years ago

Being with the WBB program for the last 6 years. We have stepped our game up a lot more when their has been a huge crowd.

(Ex) Baylor couple years ago when they were #5. Wasn't huge, but bout 5-6,000.

(Ex) Iowa on ESPN last year........thanks to all local schools. Bout 6-7,000 screaming-make-ya-deaf-kids

(Ex) KSU here about 3 years ago...............Oh wait, nevermind. There was bout 5,000 KSU fans. Total 6-7,000 fans

How do you go from a WNIT Semi-final game with 2,000 fans to a WNIT Final game with 16,100 fans? I guess the men losing to Michigan State had something to do with it. Had the men not lost............Maybe 5,000 show up.

Cody Stumma 10 years ago

We had 8,000 show up for the WNIT Semi-final game.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"scholz (anonymous) says...

(Ex) Iowa on ESPN last year........thanks to all local schools. Bout 6-7,000 screaming-make-ya-deaf-kids"

I had nightmares after that game! To this day I can't go near the fieldhouse without first looking for an armada of school buses!

That game was pure evil! And worst L-J-W said gave no warning!!!

phogthedog 10 years ago

Increasing the fan base requires a thoughtful, comprehensive approach that begins in the Athletic Director's office. First, we need to recognize that female athletics, in general, do not get the support of the general population. If you look around at AFH during a women's game, the crowd primarily is composed of women and retired individuals who live in Lawrence. On weekends, that crowd is additionally supported by young families. We have done some things to promote a broader base (e.g., premier grade school/middle school girls' basketball teams, elementary school-wide support). Those children and their families are future fans, if they have a great time while they are there and they see a good product. We need continued efforts in this area. Second, as a professor, I'm well aware that students don't stay away from the games because they are in their dorms studying. The Athletic Dept. should tie student attendance at women's games (and for that matter, other sporting events) to eligibility for KU men's BB and FB tickets. Once the students are there, they will see the quality product and some will continue to come. Third, could the current crowd ever GET ON THEIR FEET AND CHEER???? I feel like I am the only middle-aged woman out there providing support to these athletes who are working so hard. Their performance last night was incredible, and deserved more vocal support than what was received. Fourth, in the past, other coaches (I'm thinking mostly of FB and BB) encouraged (or maybe mandated) team members to attend women's games. It was great to see Coach Gill there last night. If well known student athletes from other sports attended, students, families, etc. would see the increased interest and perhaps considering attending games. You have to get them to AFH, Once there, Bonnie and her team are doing their part. Is it at the same level as men's BB.....absolutely not. Does it have the potential to be that good? Yes it does, if all of us do our part. RCJHGKU!

KU 10 years ago

People who believe a big crowd is going to precede a winning program: 1) do not understand the economics of spending entertainment dollars on the margin, and 2) do not understand human nature. It's that simple.

Look at North Carolina's men's basketball team this year. Currently, their record is an abysmal (for UNC standards) 13-11. A week ago, they played a home game in the Dean Dome and so few people showed up that they invited the people in the upper deck to come down and get a courtside seat.

Now tell me, was the poor crowd due to the fact that UNC has a lack of people who enjoy watching good basketball? No, during a good year UNC will pack their place every night. Was it because the people on the margin will only support a winner? Yes. Of course there is a loyal base that will follow no matter the record. But it doesn't take long to find out how small that core is if you can't put a winner on the floor.

Someone said KU's women are competitive in this league. Huh? If you think 4-5 in league play is competitive, what does uncompetitive look like? The 4 wins they have mustered? Against teams below them in the conference standings of course. Competitive would be if they were able to upset a top team once in a while. There are about 6 teams ranked in the Top 25 and KU isn't one of them.

Winning is hard. But you have to win before you can expect the crowd to clamor for seats. They pay Bonnie a boatload of money to win and put people in the seats. She's doing neither and she's had 6 yrs.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"phogthedog (anonymous) says...

The Athletic Dept. should tie student attendance at women's games (and for that matter, other sporting events) ..."

Full attendance. The entire game.

That half time situation last year at a few of the earlier football games (where the student section cleared out) wasn't very good for the school's national reputation.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"KU (anonymous) says...

Someone said KU's women are competitive in this league. Huh?"

Do you actually pay attention to the sport, or are you making it up as you go along?

Here's the standing....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/womens-basketball/teams/kaa

Nebraska #3 9-0 Oklahoma #12 7-3 Iowa St. #20 6-3 Oklahoma St. #15 6-3 Texas #14 6-3 Baylor #11 4-5 Texas A&M #13 4-5 Kansas 4-5 Kansas St. 4-5 Texas Tech 2-7 Colorado 2-7 Missouri 1-9

Please note that two of those ranked teams (Baylor and A&M) are tied with KU at 4-5. If KU had won last night they would've been ahead of those ranked teams in the conference standings.

Not bad for a team you claim isn't competitive in this league.

Phillbert 10 years ago

I'd rather get fans to the games because they want to be there, rather than have a bunch of bored/pissed-off college students counting the minutes until the game ends and they can go home.

The best way to get fans is to win. Last year we did upset two ranked teams, and there's still an opportunity - though greatly diminished thanks to injuries - to do so in the three remaining home games, all against teams in the Top 20.

As "KU" said, winning is hard - especially when your starting PG and top scorer don't even get to play half of the conference schedule. If they were both healthy and the team was still underpeforming, I'd say we'd see a coaching change. But expecting the WBB team to live up to the pre-season expectations without having McCray and Goodrich is like expecting the MBB team to go to the Final Four without Collins and Aldrich. It's just crazy.

Finally, as for the "boatload" of money, you'd have to pay Henrickson her salary for something like 7 years to add up to what Mangino was paid to leave, so let's keep things in perspective. (Well, at least in the perspective of modern sports salaries.)

LakeShawnee 10 years ago

I love Omegatron's passion for women's hoops.

KU fans are known for their love of basketball and I think our average attendance at women's games will grow. While I agree that increased attendance correlates with winning, I'm still unsure whether a dream scenario for our women's program (i.e., experiencing success at the same rate our men's program does) would equate to sellouts.

I wasn't able to uncover attendance figures for this season, but I was able to find figures for the 2008-2009 season. They can be found at:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/8ac0d7804e543548a108f3ae91fec9bb/Awide_wbkb+att+list.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=8ac0d7804e543548a108f3ae91fec9bb

KU's national rank in attendance was 25th with an average of 4,109. All Division-I schools played 4,663 games/sessions (it includes the NCAA Tournament) with a total women's basketball attendance of 7,516,709. This results in an average women's basketball crowd of 1,612. As such, KU's average women's crowd is 2.5 times the size of the NCAA's average women's crowd.

1 on the average attendance list: Tennessee. While the Lady Volunteers experience repeated March Madness success with (seemingly) habitual ease, the average Knoxville crowd stands at 13,999. The Thompson-Boling Center seats more than Allen Fieldhouse so it would be difficult to argue that Volunteer fans are restricted by ticket availability. As such, even with a passionate fan base the likes of Tennessee, one could argue that even Allen Fieldhouse wouldn't reach capacity if our women's team experienced copious amounts of success.

Trying to compare men's and women's hoops attendance figures will only cause frustration. Nevertheless, here's to hoping our women's crowds continue to grow and the sport continues to prosper on Mount Oread.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"Phillbert (anonymous) says...

I'd rather get fans to the games because they want to be there, rather than have a bunch of bored/pissed-off college students counting the minutes until the game ends and they can go home."

I'm in total agreement with you. If they get bored easy and don't want to stay for an entire game, they should be in attendance in the first place...

Omegatron 10 years ago

"LakeShawnee (anonymous) says...

I'm still unsure whether a dream scenario for our women's program (i.e., experiencing success at the same rate our men's program does) would equate to sellouts."

To clarify. My main complaint is the lack of student support.

I also think that we, being the birth place of college basketball, can do better then 25th in the nation. K-State is beating us for god's sake!

merg311 10 years ago

Observation: Omegatron cares more about KU women's basketball than the rest of the "fan base" combined.

Is that sad? Yes...from both ends of the spectrum.

KU 10 years ago

Omega......So a 4-5 conference record is "competitive in this league" when the 4 wins were: twice against MU, the worst team in the league; once against KSU after getting humiliated by them in Manhattan; and at home against Colorado, the 2nd worst team in the league? Just checkin......that sounds competitive against the bottom 3rd of the league. I will give you that.

Cody Stumma 10 years ago

I'm going to vouch here for that one. We could of very well of been 6-3. We lost to Okie State on a last second lay-up AFTER Angel went down. Plus we just hung with the leader of the conference for 37 minutes. The 5 losses doesn't fully reflect how hard Kansas has been fighting. Yes, there are embarrassing losses... KSU and OU (considering we started off 16-6 against OU), but there were some very close losses that could of very well been wins.

The women's team seems to be growing up even quicker now since the top 2 scorers are out of the game. Since you don't seem to go to the games (I go, I cheer, I lose voice.), I have seen them wanting to win more now. They're showing heart, dedication, and emotion. They're maturing in the game, and they're fighting with every ounce of courage now. If you don't believe me, attend the game on Saturday (don't worry... it'll be over in time for you to come back for the Men's game later that evening).

Let's take down Texas! Rock Chalk!

Cody Stumma 10 years ago

Sorry, I really wish this site would allow for edits.

Edit on this sentence, I forgot to add this in.

Since you don't seem to go to the games, "you don't realize how hard they compete to win for their fallen teammates." (I go, I cheer, I lose voice)...

KU 10 years ago

Close losses are simply......losses. I don't want to hear about injuries or bad luck. Great coaches make their own luck with hard work on the recruiting trail and developing players so they can step in when starters are injured. I just haven't seen enough from Bonnie in 6 years to say that she's a great coach. Nice woman. Good ambassador for the University. Average coach. I'm sorry.

Omegatron 10 years ago

"merg311 (anonymous) says...

Observation: Omegatron cares more about KU women's basketball than the rest of the "fan base" combined."

Really? I didn't know the entire fanbase has posted an opinion here. And of the people who have, I still don't think that that would be an accurate statement either...

LeBo 10 years ago

Bye, Bye Bonnie.

We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette! We want Lynette!

scholz 10 years ago

Your ignorant if you want Lynette. She wasn't a very good coach.......but she was a H-E-Double Hockey stick of a recruiter.

cgdphog 10 years ago

KU - Close losses are not simply close losses. That is the same ignorant statement that KK made about Mangino not improving the football program because the record did not improve significantly. There is a huge difference between entering every game with a chance to win and knowing before tip off that the only question is going to be "How bad will we get beat"?

When you take over a program that is in the straits that we were in, your first order of business is to get in the games.

We have done that!

Next, we have to win some big games.

We have done that (Baylor '09, OSU '08)!

We are playing in arguably the toughest conference in the nation and we are in the bottom half but, with a couple of exceptions, have been in every game. We expected more, but surely didn't expect to lose our 2 best players.

We just played the #3 team in the country down to the wire with our freshmen and sophomores leading the way. We have a great recruiting class signed for next year. We get back 2 of the 3 girls out with knee surgeries. We are headed the right direction. Maybe Bonnie won't get us to the "promised land", but you can't judge her on the record of this years team.

Comparing the girls to the guys is silly but have you ever stopped to think that the guys annually play one of their most lackluster games in the Sprint Center? Although technically a home game, there is none of the spirit that exists at AFH. The guys even play better away because there is at least some spirit in the arena. There can't be much worse than playing to an empty, dead arena.

Let's get behind the girls and see what they do with some vocal support! Worked pretty well last year!

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