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Friday, February 5, 2010

Gill’s assistants to earn more than Mangino’s

New head football coach Turner Gill is introduced to the Jayhawk Nation at a press conference on Monday.

New head football coach Turner Gill is introduced to the Jayhawk Nation at a press conference on Monday.

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KU assistant salaries

KU assistant football coaches under Turner Gill will combine to make $2,059,999.96 next season. Here is the breakdown:

Chuck Long, offensive coordinator: $350,000

Carl Torbush, defensive coordinator: $350,000

John Grimes, offensive line coach: $250,000

Darrell Wyatt, wide receivers coach: $249,999.96

Reggie Mitchell, running backs coach/recruiting coordinator: $240,000

Vic Shealy, cornerbacks coach: $150,000

Aaron Stamm, tight ends coach/special teams coordinator: $150,000

Robert Wimberly Jr., safeties coach: $120,000

For Kansas University assistant football coaches, the Turner Gill era is already proving fruitful.

Gill’s nine-member staff will make a combined $2,059,999.96 in base salary next season, according to information supplied by the university Thursday, a significant boost from the reported $1,766,500 in combined base salary for last year’s assistants — none of whom were retained following the December departure of former head coach Mark Mangino.

Offensive coordinator Chuck Long and defensive coordinator Carl Torbush each will make $350,000 annually, while four other coaches will be paid $200,000 or more per year, including offensive-line coach John Grimes ($250,000), wide-receivers coach Darrell Wyatt ($249,999.96), running-backs coach/recruiting coordinator Reggie Mitchell ($240,000) and defensive-line coach Buddy Wyatt ($200,000).

According to a 2009 USA Today study that analyzed salaries for FBS football coaches, former KU offensive coordinator Ed Warinner was the team’s highest-paid assistant last season with a base salary of $300,000, while defensive coordinator Clint Bowen’s $260,000 base salary was second-highest. Co-defensive coordinator/linebackers coach Bill Miller ($248,000) was the only other coach on staff to make more than $200,000 annually, according to the report.

Just three members of the current staff — cornerbacks coach Vic Shealy ($150,000), tight-ends coach/special-teams coordinator Aaron Stamn ($150,000) and safeties coach Robert Wimberly Jr. ($120,000) — are set to make less than $200,000 a year.

Gill, whose contract was finalized last month, is set to make $2 million annually over the next five years, with the possibility for performance-based bonuses.

Comments

100 4 years, 9 months ago

Sounds about right....

That's one heckuva staff capable of bringing in some bigtime 4 star prospects with an occassional 5 star once Coach Gill gets this Dynasty train rolling...

Worth every single penny & the "character" that represents us, KU, is back!!!!!

Dee Shaw 4 years, 9 months ago

Wide-Receivers coach Darrell Wyatt salary is $249,999.96. Funny. Wonder if he does well this year if he could get a raise and make $250,000.00. Just thought that was a strange base salary amount.

Robert Brock 4 years, 9 months ago

That is a high-powered, well-paid staff. I wonder if they will be able to recruit any offensive linemen?

HawkDigestCom 4 years, 9 months ago

I wonder what kind of bonuses they get ... like for BCS bowls, conference championships, beating Missouri, etc.

jakzhumans 4 years, 9 months ago

There is not a single respected scouting service that ranks KU's recruiting class as last in the Big 12. Not one. So if the lead sentence of your comment is demonstrably wrong, why should I pay attention to the rest of it?

Rivethead 4 years, 9 months ago

jakzhumans is correct. Most have us at 9th or 10th.

Seth Peattie 4 years, 9 months ago

good job, jakzhumans!!!

solomon is an idiot.

huskercarpenter 4 years, 9 months ago

solomon, not sure where you are getting your info but you should do somemore research, i believe they rank about 8 in the conference.

also, about half of the coaches have coached in the big 12 before and i am pretty sure they all had success. to get a good coach to come to a school not known as a football school you have to give them a reason to come. not one headcoach in the big12 makes as little as $750k. if any bcs school would have offered turner that amount of money would have been an insult. because of turner k.u. is going to make a buttload of money in the up and coming years.

Corkwis 4 years, 9 months ago

dlshaw74:

You get bumped to the next tax bracket at $250K. He probably walks away with more in pocket at the end of the day if he's just short of that.

OCJHAWK 4 years, 9 months ago

Underpaying Coach Gill and staff would have been a big mistake. If he has a great year then he would have used an open position to renegotiate causing hard feeling with fans, players and recruits (see Harbough, etc). Now that he has a respectable salery, only top flight schools can lure him away if he is succesful and there will be more pressure for him to succeed or move on.

MitchumMan 4 years, 9 months ago

This information in this article should have been obvious to most. There was no way we get all of these assistants without paying them what they are worth. Lew knows what it takes to get the best, and that my friends is $$$$. Cold hard cash! And for anyone that is dumb enough to post how bad our recruiting class was is obviously dumb. We rank 3rd in the Big12 North in all of the places I've looked. That's not great, but it's not horrible considering the situation. Nobody could have done better...not even Tuberville!

Ryan Gerstner 4 years, 9 months ago

corkwis, that makes no difference on the taxes. The U.S. has a progressive tax code so your tax rate doesn't change until you earn the next dollar at each tax rate threshold.

David Leathers 4 years, 9 months ago

Don't forget, ladies and gentleman, that last season we went 5-7. Me being a young man (23) I could honestly say that as a high school student I would have never picked KU over a lot of the Big XII. As a high school kid, you really only care about names and tradition. The only reason a young, teenager would pick KU (besides facilities) would be playing time.

To you and I Turner Gill has a great resume and has a lot of potential for being a great HC. To those hard-headed High-Schoolers they ask, "Who the heck is that?"

With that being said, I think Turner Gill has done a great job in his short time here at KU and this is a great start to "building a dynasty". All he needs is a few bowl games in a row and we start haulin in the better talent.

John Brown 4 years, 9 months ago

Hope that more $ = more wins, B-12 championships, Orange Bowls, big time recruiting, National Championships, victories vs. MU and KSU.

MitchumMan 4 years, 9 months ago

jbrownjib -

I can tell you what less $ gets you if you want...

huskercarpenter 4 years, 9 months ago

on a previous post i said k.u.'s recruiting class ranked 8 in the conference. they are ranked 9, sorry.

there have been some that have talked about the big 12 north as being weak, i do not think they are weak at all, the south division is stronger at this point and time. the north has done good in other areas outside the conference, non-conference schedule but more importantly bowl games over the last few years they have been successful. no, they haven't won all their bowl games but they have done well. the future looks bright, pinkle has made misery better, iowa st. was better and i think they get some good players back, bill snyder definately has k-st. in the right direction plus he won't leave till he has the right replacement, nebr. their last 5-6 games speak for themselves and kansas has some good talent with an outstanding coaching staff. now colorado i just can't seem to figure that one out, maybe gary barnett (sp.) really screwed things up royally there.

i just see things a little differently than some people.

tical523 4 years, 9 months ago

Our coaching staff is confident in their recruiting abilities and did a good job in their transition situation I would say. Now I hope these coaches do as good of a job in teaching our players the game and game planning for the opponents. I am so excited for the Gill era but I don't honestly know how good of a sideline coach he is yet, I did not follow Buffalo at all. I always had faith in Mangino's game planning and coaching, I still am dumbfounded on how we won one game in the Big XII last year unless it really was a player mutiny or what I think. . . Reesing's injury totally took his escapability and playmaking ability away. I am very excited for football season, and I am confident in our coaching staff but definately want to see it first. One thing I already know is that our players are going to play hard for Gill and that should go a long way.

Steve Brown 4 years, 9 months ago

Tical says: I always had faith in Mangino's game planning and coaching.

last year at arrowhead, from 2:59 to 2:44 on the clock was the worse 14 seconds of KU Ball in modern ear (since 1935).

Like you I don't know if we had player mutiny or hidden injuries or some unkown factor, yet this coach will indeed have players with the 'want to' for him. and yes, should go a long way....

Rick Arnoldy 4 years, 9 months ago

Have you seen the experience the assistant coaches have? Worth every penny.

Tony Bandle 4 years, 9 months ago

With all due respect to all of you posters and your opinions both pro and con regarding Coach Gill and his staff, I find it premature to make a choice either positive or negative before even one down of spring ball has been played.

What I can say is that I am encouraged by the potential of the fresh start of this coach and his staff and, although I am Crimson and Blue, through and through, I was born in Missouri.......so show me!!

James Horton 4 years, 9 months ago

I don't know if anyone noticed, but last year (Mangino's best recruiting class) Kansas was also 9th in the Big 12. The class was ranked higher nationally, but not in the Big 12.

LibertyHawk84 4 years, 9 months ago

These salaries quoted are just the tip of the iceberg. They probably also get other benefits including summer camps, use of cars for themselves and wives and other state benefits. All that money for lower level assistants? College sports is officially completely dysfunctional.

Dirk Medema 4 years, 9 months ago

The salary for the coaching staff is exactly the same. Lew had $4M to work with. IN some respects, it is no different than BB. Coach Self didn't gouge the school for all he could. Instead, his priority was upgrading player facilities.

Also, the KCStar had an article about the recruit release presser from KC, with quotes from Turner. His PR is worth the change even if he has the same record as the previous coach. Fortunately, his personality and staff will translate into better recruits and better performances from the players on the team/field.

Cody Stumma 4 years, 9 months ago

Give him the 4 damn cents...

Sheesh, you cheap bastards!

Jim Jackson 4 years, 9 months ago

I certainly think Gill and his staff will be able to bring us more "4" star players. There's no doubt. Anyone with college football knowledge understands that. His players will also love playing for him. I'm sure it will show on the field as Jonathan Wilson pointed out "with coach mangino we were playing not to mess up".

tical523 4 years, 9 months ago

Lighthawk,

I agree, after the time management blunder against Missouri, I said to myself he is definitely fired; that was absolutely terrible.

Carter Patterson 4 years, 9 months ago

Lighthawk, tical523....Its my understanding that we called a running play and Todd audibled out of it. Of course its the HC and OC's job to give the QB the option.

Does anyone know how our Asst Coach's salaries compare to the rest of the B12?

kujayhawk72 4 years, 9 months ago

Todd should have "audibled out of The Wheel more often"

pmohr13 4 years, 9 months ago

Reesing had no choice to audible ever, that's why they always looked to the coaches on the sideline to see if they should audible. Mangino's game planning? Throw the ball 90% of the time and let the defense get scored on? His game planning was lacking. And he never stuck with what was working.

jhawkrulz 4 years, 9 months ago

Turner Gill - Record 20-30 Chuck Long - Record 9-27 Carl Torbush - Record 20-26

I'm not sure what the rest of the coaching staff has on overall records, but I'm not sold yet.

I know a lot of them have pretty good records as assistants.

I'm crossing my fingers.

pmohr13 4 years, 9 months ago

Chuck Long 67–11 record as OC

Carl Torbush - During his time at UNC, at least one of his linebackers went pro every year. Among his more notable players were Julius Peppers, Brian Simmons, Greg Ellis, and Dré Bly.

huskercarpenter 4 years, 9 months ago

carterpatterson, recently i read an artical on nebr. coaching staff but they hadn't finished working out the details, i think shawn watson the off. coord. made $350k last year and carl pelini the def.coord. was somewhere between $225-$275k. but carl is expected to get a goodsized bump to prob $350-$400k.

i remeber hearing that florida st. just hired a def. coord. and they are putting up $500k, football is a huge business, nebr. football program was ranked in the top 5 richest programs worth aprox. $94 million. i think texas was #2 on the list, $102 million. k.u. is going to start seeing some of this money.

Dirk Medema 4 years, 9 months ago

It was either a LJW article or a KCStar article last fall about FB staff salaries in the Big12. Don't recall where we stood then.

gardenjay 4 years, 9 months ago

four cents. Ah yes. KU AD watches their pennies like we-all; just think what they will spend on attys fees to fight joe college.

Dirk Medema 4 years, 9 months ago

JFHawk says, "I don't know if anyone noticed, but last year (Mangino's best recruiting class) Kansas was also 9th in the Big 12. The class was ranked higher nationally, but not in the Big 12."

Actually, you are off by a year. Below is KU's rankings in the Big12 per Rivals:

2006, 7th 2007, 9th 2008, 9th 2009, 5th

Even more so, if you rank the teams by the average stars per player (thereby eliminating the bias towards larger classes), then 2008 & 2009 were both 5th place rankings. With average stars per player of 3.10 & 3.08, either could probably be considered the best class, at least since class rankings began. We'll have to ask Bill Mayer for the definitive, all time, answer.

The good news is that those classes are soph's & jr's, and just beginning to get in position to make their impact felt. All the more reason to be excited about KU FB.

Steve Brown 4 years, 9 months ago

The best news is next year campus visits, the potential recruits can ask the players what is it like to play for HCTG and then hear how he is tough but fair, doesn't hold a grudge, is affirming and a skills teacher, and has the championship attitude. Trust me v. watch me. Night & Day.

RRW_Liberty 4 years, 9 months ago

Coach Gill,

Look out; Obama will come after your money!

Concerned Fan

slowplay 4 years, 9 months ago

"They probably also get other benefits including summer camps, use of cars for themselves and wives and other state benefits."

They get "wives"? Now that's a nice perk. I assume they have to give them back if they leave KU.

That said, it's more important to get solid, mid-level players and coach them up (physically and mentally) than to rely on few highly rated players. The 5 star players will boost your recruiting rankings but may not transfer to the field. Still, winning breeds success and I hope Gill is up for the challenge. With his salary, results need to be forthcoming.

Layne Pierce 4 years, 9 months ago

Ku football 101 - Please take notes. ..

  1. Turner Gill keeps talking program, not just season, not just getting a great player.
  2. Every big time program has big time assistants.
  3. Recruiting means nothiing if you don't develop the players after they get here. (see Bill Self)
  4. You want to be in the bigtime, start acting like the bigtime.
  5. Mangino got the program on its feet, now its Gill who will teach it how to run.
  6. It was attitude that Mangino had to change when he came, and ironically it was attitude that bit him in the butt.
  7. We got the shaft at Colorado with the offensive inteference call at the end of the game.
  8. We had a damned good chance of beating Nebraska, if for no damn good reason, Thornton does not grab a face mask of a player who was already surrounded and going down.
  9. Any decent playcalling at the end of the Missouri game, and we win.
  10. We are not at rock bottom looking for a savior, we are looking for a leader.

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