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Originally published February 3, 2010 at 06:37p.m., updated February 3, 2010 at 11:24p.m.

FINAL: KU escapes with 72-66 overtime win over CU

Kansas forward Marcus Morris battles inside for a bucket amidst the Colorado defense during overtime Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2010 at the Coors Event Center in Boulder.

Kansas forward Marcus Morris battles inside for a bucket amidst the Colorado defense during overtime Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2010 at the Coors Event Center in Boulder.

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Who was KU's best player against Colorado?

  • Cole Aldrich 65% 1499 votes
  • Brady Morningstar 9% 230 votes
  • Marcus Morris 23% 543 votes
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Who was KU's first-half MVP against CU?

  • Tyshawn Taylor 2% 3 votes
  • Brady Morningstar 8% 9 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 80% 82 votes
  • Marcus Morris 4% 5 votes
  • Other 2% 3 votes

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FINAL: KU wins, 72-66, in OT

Morningstar with a steal, and on the other end, Marcus Morris’ motor is going crazy, as he rips away three or four straight offensive boards before putting in a layup. Self loves the effort, clapping his hands and pumping both fists ahead of him.

Relphorde follows with a layup and foul, but he misses the free throw. The next CU possession, Higgins is fouled and hits two free throws, cutting KU’s lead to three.

Collins misses a fadeaway, but Marcus Morris snatches the offensive rebound. Collins thinks about putting up an open three, but he wisely resets the offense.

With the shot clock winding down, Collins squirts by his defender and under the basket, putting in a layup to put KU up five.

Dufault misses a wide-open three, and Morningstar rips down the board between two CU players. He gets fouled and makes one of two free throws.

Higgins is fouled, and he makes two free throws. Marcus Morris is immediately fouled after KU gets it inbounds. Marcus makes both free throws, putting KU up six with 26 seconds left.

CU misses two three-point attempts, and that will do it. Marcus Morris clears the rebound and is fouled.

The Rock Chalk Chant starts with 7.5 seconds left in overtime. So does the “O-ver-ra-ted” chant from CU fans.

KU escapes with a 72-66 victory.

KU 65/CU 60 — 3:13 left in overtime

Aldrich gets fouled inside, but he only hits one of his two free throws.

KU gets a defensive stop, with Morningstar snatching the rebound. On the other end, Morningstar drives to the right, putting in a 10-foot bank shot off the glass. KU up three.

Knutson misses a jumper, and this time, Marcus Morris rips away the defensive rebound. This is the most intensity I’ve seen from KU since the first half.

Collins drives to the left, then fires back left to Marcus Morris, who puts in a layup. Timeout CU, and Collins rips out his mouthpiece, screaming to the KU fans on this side.

CU 60/KU 60 — End of regulation

Morningstar lobs it to Aldrich, but the big man doesn’t catch it cleanly.

KU heads to overtime for the second straight game.

CU 60/KU 60 — 0.6 seconds left in 2nd half

Higgins puts up a long three with one left on the shot clock. It bangs off the backboard without touching rim. Shot-clock violation. KU will have the ball with 2.0 seconds left under its own basket.

CU tips the ball out of bounds. That’s a break for KU, which will have it on its own end of the court with .6 seconds left. Self calls timeout.

CU 60/KU 60 — 10.6 seconds left in 2nd half

KU nearly forces a 10-second call in the backcourt. CU gets it across at nine seconds.

Bzdelik calls timeout to set up a play.

CU 60/KU 60 — 38.2 seconds left in 2nd half

Dufault puts in a shot inside. Collins follows with a bad entry pass to Collins that sails out of bounds.

Taylor immediately sprints down the floor, missing a wild shot. Self pushes in his temples. Relphorde follows with a layup, and CU is down one.

Aldrich bricks a baseline shot, and CU clears the rebound, the fans going wild.

KU has put up some bad shots, but Tomlinson wins the bad-shot award tonight, hoisting up a 25-footer with time left on the shot clock. It bounces away, and KU brings down the rebound.

Morningstar has a two-on-one break, but his pass is stolen under the rim.

Collins misses a jumper, and CU grabs the loose-ball rebound. Morningstar is called for a block on the other end, and Relphorde makes both free throws to put CU up one.

Collins forces up a shot, and an official bails him out with a whistle. I didn’t see much contact there. Collins will have two free throws coming up.

Collins makes one of two free throws.

CU can hold the ball and essentially have the last shot.

KU 59/CU 54 — 3:53 left in 2nd half

Markieff Morris’ free-throw shooting is going to become a factor if this one stays close. He makes one of two, and is just three for his last 13 from the line. Self will have to pull him if KU is leading by a slim margin late.

Collins tosses a crosscourt pass into the third row. KU appears a bit rattled and Self senses it, calling for a timeout.

Knutson misses the front end of a one-and-one. Throw the stats out the window for this game.

Collins drains an 18-footer confidently, but the next time down, he forces up a shot with tons of time left on the shot clock. His decision-making hasn’t been the best in this game.

While pressured, Morningstar chucks a nice bounce pass to Marcus Morris, who finishes inside with a layup and foul. Credit Morningstar for being confident enough in himself to make a tough pass in a close game.

KU 54/CU 49 — 7:59 left in 2nd half

Two more free-throw misses, this time from Marcus Morris. KU is now 12-for-25 (48 percent) from the line.

Nice lob to Aldrich, who finishes with an ugly but effective layup. The next time down, Aldrich show nice body control, avoiding a charge before putting in a jumper off the glass and in.

Relphorde drives for a layup to trim KU’s lead to three, but Collins answers immediately with a tough shot in the lane over three defenders.

CU gets another offensive rebound, and the fact that the Buffaloes are out-rebounding the Jayhawks 31-28 at this point might be the biggest shock of the game.

KU 48/CU 45 — 11:34 left in 2nd half

I’ve figured out Colorado’s play No. 1. One guard penetrates, draws a second defender, then kicks out for a three. The Buffs pull it off again, as Tomlinson wiggles past Collins, then throws back to Trey Eckloff for a three. KU hasn’t figured out the best way to defend that play yet.

Big steal for Collins, and he finishes on the other end with an uncontested layup.

This game will most likely be decided by the team that can get to the free-throw line the most. CU has eight team fouls and KU has six, meaning we’ll have free throws on every foul the rest of the way. Remember, CU came into the game shooting better than 77 percent from the line.

KU 42/CU 40 — 14:54 left in 2nd half

Collins breaks his slump, curling around a screen before dropping in a finger-roll. KU had 21 points in the first 10 minutes and just 17 in the next 12 minutes.

KU gets it inside two possessions in a row, and the results are positive. Marcus Morris follows his own miss with a stickback, and Aldrich follows the next time down with a tip-in for two.

KU 34/CU 34 — 18:38 left in 2nd half

Knutson with another three. The next possession, KU's defenders once again converge on a driving CU player, and the pitch goes out to Knutson for a three that he swishes.

Timeout Self, as CU has rallied to tie it after KU led by 16 in the first half.

KU scoring — Aldrich 9, Taylor 6, Marcus Morris 5, Markieff Morris 5, Morningstar 3, Reed 3, Collins 2, X. Henry 1.

KU was 12-for-24 from the floor (50 percent), 4-for-12 from three (33.3 percent) and 6-for-15 from the free-throw line (40 percent).

CU was 11-for-31 from the floor (35.5 percent), 5-for-12 from three (41.7 percent) and 1-for-5 from the free-throw line (20 percent).

CU out-rebounded KU, 22-18, in the first half. CU had six turnovers, while KU had four.

Halftime thoughts

What a strange first half. This one is playing out exactly opposite of what the numbers would suggest. CU, which is getting out-rebounded by 14.4 in conference, is out-rebounding KU by four at half? Hmm.

Both teams with awful free-throw shooting is surprising, too. Remember, CU was third in the nation in free-throw shooting, and it is just 1-for-5 tonight.

KU needs to force-feed it more inside. Aldrich, Marcus Morris and Markieff Morris combined to go 7-for-8 in the first half. As the old saying goes, If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

KU 34/CU 28 — Halftime

Collins is off tonight, but that hasn’t stopped him from shooting. Another three bricks away, and he’s 1-for-7 from the floor and 0-for-5 from three for two points.

Aldrich with an athletic move underneath, dribbling around a defender before putting in a two with a foul.

Conner Teahan checks in. Is this for defensive purposes, perhaps to guard CU’s perimeter players better?

Taylor with a bad pass to Aldrich, and after a CU tip-in, he almost turns one bad play into two. He races up the court out of control, and after banging into a defender, he draws a foul on the Buffaloes. Taylor is lucky, because from my view, it didn’t look like the CU defender did anything wrong on that play.

It ends up not mattering, as Taylor clanks both free throws. KU now 6-for-15 from the free-throw line (40 perceent).

Aldrich blocks a shot at the end of regulation, and CU coach Jeff Bzdelik is steamed that there wasn’t a whistle. He rips off his jacket and glares at an official before making his way to the locker room.

KU takes a 34-28 lead into the half.

KU 30/CU 26 — 2:50 left in 1st half

With the shot clock ticking down, Relphorde drains another three for CU. Not horrible defense by Markieff, but the high-arching shot fell through.

Xavier Henry draws three defenders on a drive, then kicks out to Tyshawn Taylor for a three. Good decision by Henry, who would have picked up a charge had he taken one more dribble or step.

KU is giving up points defensively in threes. Levi Knutson with a three. Nate Tomlinson follows with a three from the corner. KU coach Bill Self calls timeout.

Higgins beats KU down the floor, and his reverse lay-in gives CU an 8-0 run. The Colorado fans are making some noise now.

KU 26/CU 15 — 7:41 left in 1st half

I just saw one of the most unprofessional displays I have ever seen in my life.

Frustrated that Collins wasn’t whistled for a foul, CU athletic director Mike Bohn rose from his seat and came over to press row to verbally berate the Big 12 official next to me that is in charge of evaluating the referees.

Yells and screams followed. “Why isn’t that a foul?” “They aren’t giving our guys a chance!” All this with arm gyrations and a voice loud enough for three sections around to here — and all this to someone on press row who can’t call any fouls and has no say on what is called and what isn’t. The display went on for a good two to three minutes. Bohn then banged his chair on the way back, ending his tirade.

I’m still a bit shell-shocked that I saw anyone do that, much less the athletic director of a Big 12 school.

Dufault hits another three, and Marcus Relphorde follows with a layup and foul. But Aldrich hits a tough turn-around on the baseline to end CU’s mini run.

KU 21/CU 8 — 10:06 left in 1st half

Tyshawn Taylor with a steal, and he ignores contact on the other end to put in a layup with a foul. A few seconds later, he completes the three-point play.

Morningstar is playing as well during this stretch as I can remember him playing during his career. With the shot clock winding down, he penetrates before finding Markieff Morris underneath for a jam. Morningstar didn’t panic in the least, even with the shot clock under five.

KU pushes it inside the zone defense, and Markieff Morris puts in a 12-footer with a foul. Markieff misses his free throw, though, and he’s missed seven straight from the free-throw line.

The CU fans are getting on Markieff, though I can’t exactly make out what they’re chanting. It sounds like, “Don’t shoot parents,” but I’m not 100-percent sure on that.

Collins penetrates, then pitches to Tyrel Reed for a three. That’s at least five straight made three-pointers for Reed.

Marcus Morris adds to the long-range display, draining a three from the corner. KU has come out focused tonight, and CU calls timeout in the midst of a 17-2 KU run. Collins flips his hands in the air toward a corner, motioning for the KU fans there to rise to their feet.

KU 7/CU 6 — 15:47 left in 1st half

Colorado opens in a zone defense, perhaps to try to make up for its lack of size inside. After a Marcus Morris jumper goes in, the zone seems to work, as Sherron Collins and Xavier Henry settle for long three-point attempts that bounce away.

Cole Aldrich has been dominant on the defensive end, blocking two shots in the first couple minutes.

CU’s Austin Default and Casey Crawford are both left open for three, and they hit consecutive treys. KU continues to struggle to defend the perimeter, as Big 12 opponents are making more than 40 percent of their threes so far against the Jayhawks.

Two good plays for Brady Mornignstar, one a lob to Aldrich for a dunk, and the second a three from the top.

8:06 p.m. CST

That's a new one. The P.A. announcer just introduced Xavier Henry as "ZAH-vuh-ray".

7:06 p.m. CST

All right, our pregame chat is open and available by clicking this link or the link in the upper-left corner of this blog. I'll be hanging out there until gametime.

Just a reminder to use the "Submit a question" link to post a score prediction, to submit a comment or to ask a question.

Today's random topic: Cocoa Puffs or Fruity Pebbles?

6:45 p.m. CST

Quick update: CU staff members are putting newspapers on each chair in the student section. Wonder what those will be used for ...

6:35 p.m. CST

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from the Coors Events Center in Boulder, Colo., where No. 1 Kansas is getting set to take on the Colorado Buffaloes.

The trip to Boulder is always a nice stop on the conference tour. The mountains are a pleasant change, and Pearl Street has to rank as one of the top spots to be in the Big 12.

Hair seems to be a little bit longer here. And whenever I think of Boulder, I can't help but think of Cartman's voice from when he introduced the CU Buffaloes on TV a few years back (Check it out if you haven't seen it).

It's just a shame that, when the basketball game actually starts, it is played at what Big 12 players seem to consider the worst arena in the league.

It's not my favorite, for sure. It's missing something, though I'm not sure exactly what that something is. Perhaps it's a center-hung video board, which most arenas nowadays seem to have. Maybe it's a different color scheme, as the gold/creme seats are striking, but not necessarily in a good way.

Shouldn't one of the league's nicest cities at least have an arena that ranks in the top half?

I guess that's a discussion for another time. On a side note, while walking up to the arena, I saw two deer eating grass only 50 feet away from the Coors Events Center. That's not something you see every day.

We'll try to get a chat in later, but for now, here are some notes about Colorado, which enters with an 11-10 record.

To say Colorado has struggled on the backboards this year might be an understatement. CU has been out-rebounded by an average of 6.7 rebounds per game. In Big 12 play, the Buffs have been out-rebounded by 14.4 rebounds per game.

Opponents are making 51.6 percent of their two-point attempts against CU.

CU actually has done a decent job defending three-pointers this season. Opponents have made just 32.3 percent of their long-range tries against the Buffs (national average is 34.1 percent). Only 21.6 percent of the points CU has given up this season has been from three-pointers (national average is 27.0 percent).

CU does not turn it over much, averaging just 10.9 turnovers per game. The Buffs average 15.4 takeaways per game.

The Buffaloes get a lot of their scoring from the free-throw line, averaging 25 free throws per game while hitting 77 percent of those tries (third nationally). In fact, 25.1 percent of the Buffs' offense comes from the free-throw line.

• CU is 10-1 at home this season, with its only loss coming to Kansas State. The Buffaloes beat Baylor, 78-71, on Jan. 12.

Be sure to vote in our poll on the left, and if you're Tweeting, use the hashtag #kubball to have your messages appear in our grid on the left side.

Comments

sdoyel 9 years, 11 months ago

Well, I'm assuming KU fans will use those newspapers because I doubt any CU students show up. :)

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow. The 200 students almost have us fans outnumbered.

Jesse. Any pull at AFH Far West? Can you do somethin about the music???

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow. The 200 students almost have us fans outnumbered.

Jesse. Any pull at AFH Far West? Can you do something about the music???

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells,

have fun tonight.

kuwells,

have fun tonight.

do boulder right dawg.

MrPilot 9 years, 11 months ago

That's sad that they have to provide the newspapers for them.

Everybody copies KU...newspapers, the big heads, ominous name for the arena, winning games...

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

jayhawkinmullen,

My hope is that you become "the" vegas oddsmaker this year.

dynamite

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

kansasbasketball,

I know of several maybe in the millions if not billions.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Thanks Dynamite!

Thanks Dynamite!

(Stupid Blackberry).

Row 8. I'm an assistant coach over here!

Jesse Newell 9 years, 11 months ago

Just met kuwells here. Great guy.

The best part is he keeps checking his phone a few feet away from me to see what we're saying on this blog. That's the kind of dedication that I like to see.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

jnewell, What does he look like give us details. Is he fat, skinny, big man boobs? Ok I will just ask it is he hot?

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I'm watching porn. I'm bored.

See you in Austin Monday. For that great guy thing, I might buy you a beer! Now I feel bad for my posts you've had to censor.

KU 76 CU 62

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Cool. Thats why this is the best blog in college b-ball.

Jesse Newell 9 years, 11 months ago

jayhawkinmullen just turned everything awkward ...

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

jnewell, if you see Sherron , can you please ask him to dunk in this light air?

Jesse Newell 9 years, 11 months ago

Cool. Thats why this is the best blog in college b-ball.

You are happy to be back on KUsports.com, aren't you, dynamite?

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I feel dirty.

Erin Andrews is sitting in my lap right now. Is that an answer?

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

p.s. kuwells, I grew up in Broomfield - right in that neighborhood.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I got busy in a Burger King bathroom in Broomfield several years ago... Son?

Sorry... Couldn't resist. That BK post of yours months ago cracked me up.

I've been in the springs thi week. By the AFA... This area is fantastic.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Sorry, no Top 10 tonight. 52-3 since 84. Why bother?

Top 1. Top Groundhog Day Observation:

  1. Roy Williams popped out of his cave in the Dean Dome yesterday. Bad news. Kleenex will be in high demand. That's correct, he saw his shadow. Meaning six more weeks of crappy basketball in Chappel Hill.

Philip Garver 9 years, 11 months ago

Have fun Wells. I'll see you in Austin at Scholtz's beir garten before the UT game on Monday......right?

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Oh hell yes! I'll be the guy in the KU shirt! And with a really pretty 5'7" brunette!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Jesse:

The guy beside you has a book "Men's Basketball Officiating Manual". What is the other book (I can't see), Idiots Guide to Basketball"?

Dude, he's looking at your screen now...

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells-- You sound like a cool guy. Sorry, I can't make it to the TEXAS game. I will be there in spirit and watching it on ESPN. Have a great time in Boulder! Stay tame!!!!!!

Scott MacWilliams 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey Jesse and all you other lucky Hawks!

Make a lot of noise for the rest of us, and don't forget to breathe extra so's you don't black out. You don't want to miss anything...

Jesse, is that online link available for watching??

Rock Chalk, Jayhawks!!

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells- I just mixed up some grey goose dirty martini's since you are at the game.... Ya know just for tradition sake and all...

KU 185 CU 14

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I think he's asleep now... He's on Rule 3, Violations and Penalties. That chapter is a real scorcher.

Too bad indeed mike! It will be fun.

I'm goin to watch a ame now...

Rock Chalk!

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

dynamite- I used to live in Westminster. I never really understood where the seperation was from Broomfield to Westminister. Every town just kinda ran into the next one... Except Commerce city... What a sh#t hole

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells, You sound like a very fine human being. You sound like a person who is cool. You sound like someone who likes to watch basketball. You sound like you know your way around a hamburger.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Thanks lance!

I got 5 beers in me at the Lazy Dog. I'm good. But, have one for me.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 11 months ago

I understand the ghost of Adoph Rupp rose yesterday and saw his shadow, thus predicting 6 more decades of cheating at UK.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

Is anyone else being subjected to the final minutes of Depaul and Marquette? Brutal.

mwilliam 9 years, 11 months ago

What in the world is Marquette doing, they are 12 pts ahead and fouling. What in the world is the coach doing?

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Wells -

How are you so close to Jesse?

Surely, you aren't in the VIP seats, or are you a VIP?

Dan Harris 9 years, 11 months ago

I will never understand why ESPN won't cut away to local markets , especially when the game has been decided! Last 2 minutes has taken 17 min so far!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Marquette's coach looks like Barkley's little brother!

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

Depaul down by 13 with less than a minute left - fouling, calling timeouts. They are now up there with Duke, Carolina, and Calipari's team for the teams I hate the most.

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

lance - yes they are all together. Their school districts cross towns and some kids go to other schools, etc. Almost as f'ed up as Missouri.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Mem:

Jesse is the uber VIP. I just snuck into this section.

Very interesting gym, Mem!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Cole will have enough hair for a good mohawk by tournament time.

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow you can really hear the KU fans on tv, Are there alot of them there as usual Jesse?

number1fanfromillinois 9 years, 11 months ago

what were they chanting when kief was at the line?

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

I just saw the KU section of fans--unbelievable!!!!!!!! Jesse, in your opinion, how many in crimson & blue tonight? Just curious!

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

I can make a 15 footer at the elbow while getting hacked, but I can't make a wide open 15' free throw to save my life.

  • Markieff Morris

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Is CU the only team in the Big 12 that doesn't have player's names on their jerseys?

Jesse Newell 9 years, 11 months ago

I'd say it's about 35-40 percent KU fans, whatever that would add up to with a sellout.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

They were chanting "Don't shoot __" - I couldn't understand the last word.

jayhawkboogeyman 9 years, 11 months ago

finally espn is getting to our game. i almost forgot what i hate espn. thanks for the reminder.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

memhawk---Texas Tech does not have their names on their jerseys--they have Red Raiders instead.

Hawks are shooting good for threes---any early stats?

Jim Dickerson 9 years, 11 months ago

hey kuwells, any mountain gals in the crowd? They'll be the ones with the beards/

number1fanfromillinois 9 years, 11 months ago

66% from 2 50% from free throw 33% from 3

according to espn stats

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

I ain't scared!

...

Just kidding. I'm scared.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Don't know why I'm stuck on this, but why wouldn't you want player's names on their jerseys? I know the philosophy at Penn State with the football uniforms. But this is basketball.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Lacie Reed!!!!

Hey Wells - get Nick Krug to take a picture of you with her.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

jessejayhawk:

Not that I'm looking mind you, but there are some "earthy" ladies in these parts.

Now, there is a mom sitting in front of me that is a Colorado 8 (I guess that equates to a Kansas 5). She's eating a hot dog right now. Very distracting...

tis4tim 9 years, 11 months ago

f-ing wake up. once again don't finish the half.

CaramelMacchMan 9 years, 11 months ago

Morningstar left X wide open and shot an Air ball... wtf.

kansasbasketball 9 years, 11 months ago

are younger guys haven't played very much and it is showing, hope cole don't pick up 3

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

HCBS -- not a happy Rocky Mountain High camper!!!!

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

A few calls this way and a few no calls that way and the score gets close...then add SC putting on his own private shooting show with misses and well the score is now close!!!

jayhawkboogeyman 9 years, 11 months ago

Sherron has not been good since the Baylor game. ( I know he had the big layup at KState, but he still wasn't himself. ) He looks like he's trying too hard and not completely healthy.

Philip Garver 9 years, 11 months ago

If your name isn't Morris or Aldrich........STOP SHOOTING

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Somebody needs to check the air pressure in that ball! Weird bounce on the court and off the rim.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow. What is with the free throw shooting...... Aldrich and Taylor have shot a couple of d-u-c-k-s already.

tis4tim 9 years, 11 months ago

Great block by Cole, but 6-15 from the line and an early 16 point lead squandered. Awful.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

Colorado got to play against our 2nd team...it wont be close 2nd half...

Rodney Stice 9 years, 11 months ago

CU student body only know 2 chants; boo & bull sh!t.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Cole showing why he was pre-season All-American! Great block, Cole! Hey, Jayhawk Nation, I know KU isn't playing great but I think we're getting Colorado's best shot. That's just the way it is!

MrPilot 9 years, 11 months ago

Marcus and Markieff each have 2 fouls.

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Totinos pizza. When is it ever going to stop tasting good?

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

K2 and everything aside. That stuff is gooooood.

Philip Garver 9 years, 11 months ago

At one point we went on a 20-2 run. Now we're up 6.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

Mikendal - you're being generous - Colorado is shooting 35% from the field and 1-5 from the line. We aren't rebounding on the defensive end worth a darn and Sherron is a train wreck shooting the ball. I'm assuming that's not their best shot (but who knows).

I think we are sleepwalking a little on this one after two emotional wins. I hope Coach has a treadmill in the locker room.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

Totinos pizza is the worst thing ever!! 2 things that will still exist after a nuclear blast 1. roaches 2. Totinos pizza. Now if you are talking totinos pizza rolls then that is a whole new ball game.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

So the good news is, when I came in they were handing out CU beanies. So, I grabbed one not knowing why. Now I know. Two words:

Contingency planning

When this absurd free throw shooting give me a BM, I'll have something to clean up the mess.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

mike - now that maybe is their best shot :)

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Dammit Wells--you're bringing us bad luck--probably talking too much to Tyrel's sister.

Should I be scared?

number1fanfromillinois 9 years, 11 months ago

interesting stat according to espn stats as of right now.....KU has 3 steals, all by bench players

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

How many layups has Marcus Morris missed in the last 2 games? It has to be at least ...... three hundred.

Dale Koch 9 years, 11 months ago

X can't make a bucket to save his soul. Get him out of there.

Alec White 9 years, 11 months ago

I don't care if Marcus averages 30 and 15 every game, as long as he keeps missing bunnies I am going to keep complaining. How can someone who is literally inches away from putting the ball in the hoop habitually miss so many easy shots? I'm confident his three point shot is a higher percentage than his shots around the rim (excluding dunks). It's beyond me why he can hit a step back 19 footer earlier in the game and fail so epically when our guards hand-feed him lay-ups...

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I go to the snack bar to get the gal in front of me another hot dog, and this crap.

You're right. I might be bad luck.

No more weiner for this chick.

Dale Koch 9 years, 11 months ago

this is an awful display of basketball by the number 1 team in America. absolutely awful.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

2 things KU is looking ahead to Texas and they are still tired from the K-State game.

Dale Koch 9 years, 11 months ago

18 to 23 yr old kids shouldn't be tired, that's ridiculous.

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

I can't help it. Totinos is my one of many weaknesses. I know it may be the only thing to survive a nuclear blast, but it might also be why my infant son could be the next 7 footer playing for Kansas in 2026..

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

you get what you get with SC....if this game is all about him, then he needs a few splinters in his butt.....get the ball inside!!! The game is so bad that these announcers have Colorado picked to win this one!

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Wells--yea, but she was the bomb, right?! You too funny!!!!!!!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I wish y'all could have seen that absolutely stupid entertainment during the timeout. Actually, I'm glad you didn't.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

Dynamite,

Either 7 foot tall or 4 feet tall. I am going to go with the latter if that is what you are feeding him lol.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Marcus Morris: 1-4 on layups this half.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

We need to start getting some separation or this is going to get a little too interesting down the stretch.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

These weak-sauce fouls are killing the rhythm and KU's chances of pulling away.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

A Totinos powered 7 footer. Oh the inhumanity!

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Great. More free throws to miss after the media timeout.

Philip Garver 9 years, 11 months ago

Sherron has 7 points in the first 6 1/2 minutes of the 2nd half

Clarence Haynes 9 years, 11 months ago

Some of the CU bigs should be close to fouling out

dynamitehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Look Aldrich's dad probably fed him Totinos through the wood chipper eh'?

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 11 months ago

Are our guys going to have enough in the tank?

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

jesse -

Is it hot in the arena there? It looks like a lot of players are pretty flush-faced.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

SC is a lazy rebounder!!! Doesnt even go for the loose ball but give him the ball and he will shoot it....now a turnover......OMG

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Unbelievable. KU with a chance to pull away and it turns it over twice in a row.

CaramelMacchMan 9 years, 11 months ago

Rebounds and Free throws!---- Horrible #s today!

Jesse Newell 9 years, 11 months ago

memhawk — It is a bit stuffy in here. More so than a normal arena.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

How can you shoot 50% from the field and play so poorly??????????? Kansas???????????

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

I see a pattern developing.....after X shoots the ball from three......SC always takes it to the whole no matter if the whole other team is standing in his way!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

I am believing that I'm a jinx. I need to exit the arena immediately.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

From what I understand Cole's dad fed him a steady dose of Red Baron pizza which is by far and away the best frozen pizza.

Chris Corley 9 years, 11 months ago

I wonder when we are going to buckle down and take care of business.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

SC turns it over again........pointing at everyone except himself! 4/11 from the field

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Wells--I was only kiddin'-------I am glad that we didn't play like this at the Hawktagon!!!!!

laceyhall13 9 years, 11 months ago

Has anyone figured out what the fans are chanting every time Markieff goes to shoot a freethrow?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

AGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! I WISH YOU COULD POST IN CAPSLOCK!!!!!!!!!!

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

Stupid play SC ---bad shot and then no defense

kansasbasketball 9 years, 11 months ago

this is the worst game i have ever seen a bill self coached team play in a while

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 11 months ago

I think I see wheelchairs ready for these guys to use.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

5/13 SC 5/7 Keif, Taylor and Reed......

Hmmmmm

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Just heard an usher say "I haven't seen this place this full in a long time."

I told him "you're welcome".

CaramelMacchMan 9 years, 11 months ago

jhwkfan162515

I agree with you..

This kids needs another round of the Boot Camp.

No Rebounds

No Freethrows

Turnovers.

Unacceptable.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

HCBS said recently that Collins had a "...flair for the dramatic". He likes to be the "closer" and be the savior of the game too often. What happened to the point guard mentality?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

oh. my. god.

FREE THROWS!!!! (<====CAPSLOCK)

Might as well be a turnover when you miss the front end.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

KU needs to go home. Win or lose, what an embarrassment.

Dale Koch 9 years, 11 months ago

maybe Sherron will get a cramp and have to go out

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

Did anyone else just get cut off from ESPN U?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

What an epic fail by Morningstar on the fast break.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

the game should never be decided by the refs

tis4tim 9 years, 11 months ago

great. need free throws to take back the lead. good luck.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

after all the colorado players getting 3 fouls the first half and not a single one of them has fouled out!! what is going on!!!!!

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

KU will lose this game if there is any justice.

Just sayin... Kansas does not deserve to win this game.

Alec White 9 years, 11 months ago

Sorry to break it to everyone, but Sherron isn't the college POY. Yes, he comes up absolutely huge a lot of times...but he also takes shots that are completely unacceptable. I don't know what to say about his basketball IQ, because at times he makes every right decision and looks like a well-rounded PG. But at other moments (especially prime-time moments) he looks for the dagger and puts up junk. I wouldn't feel right voting for a player (a PG at that) who plays hard for about 75% of the games on the schedule and lets his team consistently play below what their capable of.

My top 5: 1. Scotty Reynolds: makes all the same plays as Collins except for the boneheaded ones 2. Evan Turner: all-around player who would probably be POY if on a better team 3. Demarcus Cousins: found this interesting--Cousins averages the most pts and rbs per 40 minutes in college basketball 4. Wes Johnson-best athlete in college hoops, supremely effecient player both offensively and defensively 5. Sherron-you guys already know him!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

The KU fans need to storm the court when we win!

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

free throws will lose this game for us.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Remember when this team was 10/11 deep?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

This game's in the bag. Free throws already doomed Kansas. Over.

okiedave 9 years, 11 months ago

No excuse for the players being this tired with our depth.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

This is where our obvious lack of a playmaker kills us. Reed and Morningstar on the floor in crunch time. Neither can create.

We committed to Tyshawn with minutes in December and January, and now he's not on the floor when we need a playmaker. Great. Well, heck, coach Self thought it was best to play him so it must be right. Now he's not playing him. Wonder why? See the last two minutes of the KSU game, and stupid decisions again tonight.

This is why I've said EJ all year. A freaking playmaker.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

I am holding my collective breath!!!!!!!!!

ku98 9 years, 11 months ago

On a brighter note, the last KU team that losts in Boulder ended up playing for the National Championship...

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

this has all the trappings of an overtime game... Jesse hope you can delay you flight out of Boulder.

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 11 months ago

OT? Please put in some fresh legs if it is.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

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kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

Offensive foul on KU!!! Awards free throws to CU

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

KU needs to be thanking its lucky stars right now that it still has a chance to win this game.

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

wow the Utah St. and Idaho fans ( all 7 of them) must be pi$$ed that we went into overtime.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

2nd OT in a row---god, living on the edge, jeeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

SC makes his free throws.....game over we are on the plane already

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

Looks like the 03 championship game with these free throws.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

OMG - Hack a Hawk is the best strategy.

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

We have to start making are free throws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

We can't hit a freethrow to save our lives.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

If you told me at the beginning of the year that by choice, Reed and Morningstar would play over Taylor and X in an overtime, I'd have said your psycho .. just as Morningstar hits a nice fall away.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

Games like this make you tougher for March Madness.......

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

The CU guys look like they all pissed themselves!

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 11 months ago

Fresh legs and fresh brains please........

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

We are getting offensive rebounds and getting mugged as a side dish!

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Sherron to Marcus---MONEY!!!!!!!!

kusayzone---definitely agree--good test before March Madness!!!!

kshaw04 9 years, 11 months ago

Just wondering...what was the speed of that last SC pass?

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

Ok, first ESPN cut the game off on my Uverse account, the channel just went black.... Now ESPN 360 just cut out.....

WTF.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

It did not appear that any hot KU chicks made the trip to Boulder from that last shot.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

5/14 is not a good shooting night thanks SC Marcus says I am a stud!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

I'd like a wake up call for 3 minutes into OT please.

--KU team

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

Is it obvious that Self has lost faith in Taylor and X?

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

SC has no clue about time management----what is he doing>> STUPID

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

Collins out of control. I'm seeing a lot of last years Collins tonight, and it's ugly.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 11 months ago

Theutus .. yep, but just as Collins has a sweet take to the hoop.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

Sherron isn't perfect, but he can play on my team.

lance1jhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Morningstar saved our BUTTS in overtime!!!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Did you hear that chant "..A l c o h o l i c"?

Crude!!

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

Oh i'm still glad he's on our team... lol. I just think he's still got room for improvement in the "head" game.

kusayzone 9 years, 11 months ago

Cole only shoots 9 times makes 6 doesnt make sense@!

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

If I was Self I would have each guy do 1000 free throws for every one missed tonight.

Theutus 9 years, 11 months ago

Marcus with the clutch free-throws that our guards can't make.

Chuck Wagstaff 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells - The Texas Rangers have been alerted - travel to Austin at your own risk ;-D

rockchalk86 9 years, 11 months ago

Did anyone hear the fan screaming at Collins? Collins shrugged it off and gave a flex for him but these CU fans are worthless.

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 11 months ago

No, Marcus saved this team. And Self needs to kneel at his feet.

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

After next Saturday's win, all that will matter is the W we put in the win column tonight.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

Wells -

You might want to reconsider going to the TX game. You may be a jinx! (kidding, of course)

melrank 9 years, 11 months ago

Utah State and Idaho - not that's a buzz kill.

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

KUJINX(wells) Please no more games for awhile ok. Maybe next year.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Thank God I have this beenie. I have to chane my shorts.

newyorkjayhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

That was by far the most pathetic free throw shooting I've seen since the 2003 championship game against Syracuse... had Colorado had half the talent that the Syracuse team had in 2003 when facing us tonight, we would've lost tonight's game by 12 or more... i understand colorado were very tough tonight, and i also understand that in college bball any team can beat any other team on any given night... but KU's free throws were terrible... 5/16 from the charity stripe for the Morris twins combined... 5/10 for Taylor and Aldrich combined... awful.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

Man. Two overtimes in a row. I've gotten some good walking in the last couple of KU games...

MrPilot 9 years, 11 months ago

Them's my boys! Rock Chalk!

(Now get back to Lawrence and work on those free throws! Yeesh!)

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Missed 20 "frickin" free throws and still won----unbelievable!!!! jayhawkinmullen, 1000 free throws for every one missed after running 20 suicides!!!! But hey, it's a win. I hope we can start playing like we're #!, though. Overtime ----- we have pretty good in OT.

See, kuwells---you are not bad luck, bubba!!!! Hang in there!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Mem:

I understand. I have to go!

Professor Fate:

Dude, it was destiny. But, thanks for the heads up! I'll evade them!

Jayhawkinmullen:

Pick an avatar!

tis4tim 9 years, 11 months ago

Tomorrow I'll see it as a good conference road win against a team that plays tough at home.

For now, I'll have to breathe deep and try to get some perspective back after misplacing it for the last few hours.

Joe Joseph 9 years, 11 months ago

KU had been a pretty decent free throw shooting team on the year. No need to panic yet...

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

If their is such thing as a bad win that was it.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Mike:

When I o to Austin it might be 7 OTs!

Ryan Mullen 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells, Do you like the Obama smoking one cause if so I am changing it you jinx.

Joe Baker 9 years, 11 months ago

Jayhawk Nation-
They had a bad game and still won in a physically tough and demanding location. The CU crowd was almost a non-factor, but that elevation will get you if you're not used to it. I lived in Firestone, CO outside Longmont, just a few miles from Boulder and it's tough. I lived in KS, TX and OK most of my life and when in the mountains, I can feel a huge difference just hiking and walking in those high altitudes. Geez!

The free-throws hurt. They were sucking wind on the line.

We won! Rock Chalk Jayhawk

SCHNBALL 9 years, 11 months ago

High Elite- our bench is just about gone, can anyone say Releford or Little? X is completely lost and both ends, Taylor, flip a coin. Not to late, take off those redshirts, bring all your guns to the fight (unless you play for the wizards). This team still lacks leadership. Collins loves to beat that chest coming down the stretch, but a true leader would have had his team stomp CU down when they had them on the ropes, that is the change I am looking for in this team. I know teams shorten the bench at this time of year, but man, we have really narrowed our's down. This team is virtually the same squad as last year with just more experience.

lovemyhawks 9 years, 11 months ago

2 exhausting games in a row but you know, i had lots of faith until the last couple minutes of regulation...... i kept thinking, it's colorado..... we'll win but then it got uglier......... wow........... hope someone puts on a huge FT clinic in lawrence because that was absolutely pathetic shooting and it WILL come back and haunt us....... NO one could make them........... unbelievable....... i was wanting a game to play the subs and see EJ, etc etc.......... this was NOT what i expected and i'm just glad it's over. get us back to AFH!!!!!

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells---NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't even think about 7 OT's!!!! That would be past my bedtime!!!!

Good News everyone---Tell the truth--I know you're crying--A&M beats Missouri tonight---home winning streak bites the dust. A&M won by 3!!!

lovemyhawks 9 years, 11 months ago

wow..... thanks for the mizzou news!! LOVE IT!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

So I'm sitting in this blasted parking garage. Every KU fan looks pissed off. Every Buff is smiling like they won the lottery.

Robert Lofthouse 9 years, 11 months ago

"This team is virtually the same squad as last year with just more experience."

But the Morri are playing more aggressively this year...doing good things we didn't see them do last year.

I just hope Nebraska is a tune up. We need to get back to basics like not throwing the ball away and hitting free throws.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Mike:

Thanks for the aggie update. I woulda preferred it be KU. Oh well. We'll just stop their next one. O guess at 2!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

I see a row of treadmills.

On those treadmills are the shells of the players who went to Philly and dominated.

On those treadmills are the starters and second team who win on the road, barely, in conference play.

On those treadmills are the members of the number 1 team in the NCAA.

On those treadmills are the hopes and dreams of thousands and thousands of faithful fans who are still seeing another banner being unfurled in AFH as National Champions!

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

kuwells-- As long as it gets us to the Final 4-- Have a nice trip home!!!! It was good talking to you!!! Talk to you when you are at Austin!!!

JamesA 9 years, 11 months ago

In my opinion, Self did a poor poor job coaching tonight. No reason whatsoever why we didn't rotate more guys in. All of our starters were completely gassed within the last 8 mins of regulation, and that nearly lost us the game. We were so 1 dimensional on offense, much like last season when we would rely solely on sherron, tonight we relied much too heavily on cole down the stretch. Now, i'm not saying that we shouldn't feed cole the ball all the time, but we got way too 1 dimensional when aldrich had no juice left.

 Also, why did we not once go to a zone?  CU showed no glimpses of being a team that would be able to beat us from the outside.  The majority of their basket during their offensive run before the half (and the remainder of the game)  came off of 30-35 seconds of offensive where they were making us chase them around the court. CU has no size, they run no offensive sets besides spreading the floor and dribble drive/backdoors.  If you throw in a zone, you force their players into spots where they will have contested shots, or atleast 10-15ft(ers) while giving up the occasional 3 pointer.  Higgins was the only guy CU had that could have hurt us in a zone due to his ability to drive and pull up, the rest of their guys scored primarily on cuts and screens that put their guards against our bigs on dribble drives.

Obviously free throws were an issue for us tonight, and the elevation may have had something to do with that, But it was a good thing Marcus #22 had something left in the tank in OT because we didnt' deserve to win this game.  Last thing,  Is anyone coaching Xavier?  Up until the KSU game, I hadn't seen him put the ball on the floor inside the 3 point line all season.  He is physically able to be that player at the 3 spot that we were missing last year, especially against teams that have to defend him with a smaller guard.  I realize he is only a freshman, and expectations are very high, but it seems to me he is just coasting through this season, playing not to get hurt.

Keep getting better guys, the potential to be great is there! RCJ!

SCHNBALL 9 years, 11 months ago

Comet, you are correct, the Twins have stepped up, we just have not found a 2 and a 3.

SCHNBALL 9 years, 11 months ago

JamesA, have you ever seen X beat someone to the rim in a half court set? Anyone?

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

Mem:

By the way, no need for Nick today. I got some good video last night... :)

And I see a treadmill too. And a whip! And a million free throws.

jaybate 9 years, 11 months ago

CU plays good teams close.

CU plays middling teams close.

CU plays bad teams close.

Do you see a pattern with the Princeton offense yet?

okiedave 9 years, 11 months ago

MemHawk -- to answer the question you asked during the first part of the game -- The majority of recruits will not take a basketball scholarship offer from CU unless the school agrees to leave their name off the Jersey. If a recruit asks to have his name on the Jersey, CU revokes the offer because it evidences zero self-worth.

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

Enough banter about how bad this 21-1 and ranked #1 in the nation team is! The only reason this was not a 15 pnt win in reg. is a fluke night shooting free throws, nothing more nothing less. Stop trying to over analyze.

Steve Brown 9 years, 11 months ago

Nice post earlier if we win: Rush the court, NICE I get it totally.

X TT gone to nether world.

Marcus, Reed Brady players of game. Nothing compares to 'experience'. If Barnes was to be OAD, then I've changed my mind, give me RussRob Dblock Brady Reed experience leadership. OMG we are so very young for the most part.

Cole with asthma needed more pine time HCBS mis managed his time in and out of game.

Can we learn from this....hope so.

Twins thank you. Brady thank you. Conner I think you came in to spell someone saw no errors so thank you also.

Steve Brown 9 years, 11 months ago

Holy Buffalo Batman

CU gained confidence as game went on, a gift from us. CU Burkes averages 16 pts. game out of action made eveyrone else lift their game.

MU lost at home to A&M. Baylor 4/3 A&M 5/3.KState 5/3 log jam at third place.

Steve Brown 9 years, 11 months ago

Hindsight 20/20 yesterday some of you suggested we platoon 5 guys for a few minutes every once in while, well now that looks really good idea....

not one of HCBS best efforts.

glad to escape with W.

KULA 9 years, 11 months ago

Jaybate, the only pattern I see is Bill Self teams always playing down to the competition. Self teams always play the other team's game--they never "impose their will." Gawd I'm sick of being in dogfights with mediocre teams.

JamesA & bhann--Right on! Another lame coaching job. And our 7footer never gets off the bench--even when we're up 16 and Cole's resting on the bench. As I've said before, Self totally wastes the deepest bench in D-1. And it showed with a lot of tired players in the 2nd half. At least TRob got some minutes tonite.

X needs to be benched. He brings nothing to the offense. The kid has played his way out of the lottery. Put TT in--at least he shows some "want to."

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

Honestly, a lot of times I thought that T.Taylor & Xavier were playing better than Morningstar and especially T.Reed and HCBS was favoring Morningstar & Reed almost TOO MUCH. You sure hardly say Tyshawn & Xavier AT ALL in the 2nd half and it could be seen that all of the main rotation could use some spotted breathers.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

Anyone remember me saying in other threads prior to the game that this game scared me. At one point CU outscored us 26-10 in the game going from a 24-8 lead for us to tied at 34-34 about 1 1/2 mins. into the 2nd half!!!!!

Our LACK of depth is KILLING US!!!!

Milhawkee 9 years, 11 months ago

Whew that was crazy. I was afraid we would lose and then spiral out of control like when the football team lost to Colorada this year.

I think the coach might have made that gym hot on purpose. Everyone playing looked like Bruce Pearl.

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

Our LACK of depth is killing us!!!!


Huh?? 21-1!

100 9 years, 11 months ago

Anybody else think 3 minutes of Platooning per half might wake us up against teams like this?

Yes, as Jaybate has noted, this is the Princeton offense.

Yes, it is quite apparent, they have no where near the players we have, in quality, nor in quantity.

It is pick & cut, work the clock for 35....

Wear the other team down...

All I am proposing is a platoon unit, for teams like this (which I was shot down for the other day, to which I take no offense, but I'd like us as KU "intelligent fans" to keep our minds open to ideas that flat out work).

Now this much is true: There are games where a platoon unit should NOT be tried, at least at this juncture of the season (such as against Texas).

But for games like CU, there are so many teams which can give us fits in the NCAA tourney playing this type of game -- Bucknell comes to mind, but especially Southern Illinois from a few years ago, not to mention Davidson or even Cornell this year.

The point is this: Teams like Cornell or Colorado can get hot & keep the game tight, cutting & wearing a solid starting 5 like KU down over the course of even 5 to 10 minutes.

I've heard a few posters say, "they're 18-23 year old kids, there's no way they should be getting tired"...

I know from a fan's perspective watching it on TV it should seem that way. But I don't care if it's in Boulder or St. Louis, we are susceptible (like all teams) to getting worn down by a team like this.

So big credit to CU, & great job getting hot when they needed it.

But we should have never been in that situation.

[continued below]

100 9 years, 11 months ago

[continued]

The only thing I'm proposing is simply an ideological shift when we play these types of teams. Let the starting five do their thing & bang out a 10 point lead (like the did).

But they'll get tired at the 10 minute mark -- not "exhausted", but tired enough to not fight through all picks, or make smart decisions with the basketball. That's what those offenses do to our thought processes/ legs as the contests move on.

But those teams never have more than 7 guys, tops. And they're forced to play within that system.

So when the NCAA comes along, we must be able to attack teams like this & bury them early. The solution? At the ten minute mark throw our 2nd platoon in, completely rested & pumped, ready to go.

Let them trap, heck even full court pressure. Make their starting point guard go faster than he wants to. Make them work harder than they want to. In essence, exhaust our 2nd unit platoon.

Maybe they keep the 10 point lead. Maybe the lead dips to 4. Maybe we shoot the lead up to 17. But after those three minutes are up, & our starters have watched (together) on the bench, I guarantee you our starters will be ready to go out for some blood against an opposing starting 5 that is now getting just tired enough to have breakdowns with our big men everytime on Defense. It is a big, big court when you play that hard!

I guess this game was good for us in many ways for the long term -- but I just don't want to see too many of these games...

We need to have our "bounce" with the starting five come NCAA time (and have our subs ready!)

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

Theutus (anonymous) says... Marcus with the clutch free-throws that our guards can't make.

February 3, 2010 at 10:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

= My nominee for stupidest post of the night!!!!

The dude was a team-worst 2-7 from the line!!!!

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

100-- I will forward this to HCBS. I'm sure he will gain invaluable insight.

Philip Garver 9 years, 11 months ago

Wells, I think you jinxed us not with your presence, but with you not having the goose. I'll be sneaking some in to the drum for you

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

drgnslayr (anonymous) says... KULA (anonymous) says...

Jaybate, the only pattern I see is Bill Self teams always playing down to the competition.


That gets back to the question I asked after Tennessee, and no one acknowledged it.

Is Coach Self a good motivator?

And our average margin of victory is what?? No....Self is perhaps the worst motivator in CBB, as his record indicates....and his average margin of victory.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

lighthawk (anonymous) says... Nice post earlier if we win: Rush the court, NICE I get it totally.

X TT gone to nether world.

Marcus, Reed Brady players of game. Nothing compares to 'experience'. If Barnes was to be OAD, then I've changed my mind, give me RussRob Dblock Brady Reed experience leadership. OMG we are so very young for the most part.

Cole with asthma needed more pine time HCBS mis managed his time in and out of game.

Can we learn from this....hope so.

Twins thank you. Brady thank you. Conner I think you came in to spell someone saw no errors so thank you also.

February 3, 2010 at 11:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

****HUH?!?!?!?! What did Reed do that was all that good?!?!?!? He hit a 3 in the first few minutes in the game and otherwise he looked far more lost and less contributing than X or T.Taylor would have.

SCHNBALL 9 years, 11 months ago

Take of the Redshirts and suit up Mario and Travis!!!

100 9 years, 11 months ago

Dr. Roach,

No thanks, Coach Self already has a solution better than mine -- I just thought it would be fun to throw a few ideas around www.KUsports.com considering these Princetonesque teams run a very precise game yet always have ZERO depth...

Much credit to Colorado.

Kevin John 9 years, 11 months ago

X 3 points is disgusting. How many bad games in a row? Bench him and put in Morningstar.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

The one thing that I'll credit Roy for being better at than Bill is he had those Freshmen integrated to where they were contributing offensively a lot quicker....and not just the stars but even the Ryan Robertsons and Jeff Boschee's and the like. We meanwhile have who was supposed to be the 2nd or 3rd best player coming in this season and he seems to get worse with every passing game at least scoring & shooting-wise. Maybe he's been too focused on learning defensive play to the detriment of his offense....I don't know, but something has to improve. I also agree that it seemed like their were roles and minutes for guys like Withey, EJ, Tho. Robinson....and yet most every game you see maybe T.Rob for like 2 or 3 minutes.....and that's it!!!

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 11 months ago

up4par2000: I thought Morningstar was starting at the 2 for T.Taylor.

Xavier's playing the 3.

Are you saying bring it T.Taylor to start at the 2 and slide Brady over to the 3? Or go "white-heavy" and have T.Reed at the 2 and Brady at the 3 like it was at the end of the game (I'm not a fan of this).

Kevin John 9 years, 11 months ago

Yes, think of the same squad that got us to the sweet 16 last year. I would roll with that til Xdecides he wants to compete.

KULA 9 years, 11 months ago

Dr Roach--our average margin of victory is what? I'll tell you what it is -- it's going down every week. Just like X's average. Do you really think this team looks good enough to make a run through 6 good teams in the tournament? I don't.

100 9 years, 11 months ago

Re: Stroke

It was 120 degrees in the gym!!!!!

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

BigDaddy:

Excellent point. No vodka. I tell you, they look like they are playing better when I'm drinkin'!

KULA 9 years, 11 months ago

'slayer, huff & 100--I agree--I've been posting for a few weeks how Self is wasting possibly future NBA caliber talent on the bench. Why aren't EJ, Withey & TRob getting 3-4 min/ half like Cole did when he was a fresh. Then when you really need them, these guys aren't ready to come into a big game. We used to have the deepest team in D-1. Not any more. We started the season with a 5 man rotation at the 4/5 spot. Now we're down to 3 and running into foul trouble and fatigue problems. Nice job, Bill. This game should never have been close.

Kent Wells 9 years, 11 months ago

On a serious note, coach said X didn't play at KSU because he wasn't used to the road environment. I think that same logic still applies.

As for EJ, he isn't used to playing, at all... I also think coach would rather ride a 2 for 18 Sherron, over a newbie.

I would hope EJ and Withey can get some good minutes against N.

100 9 years, 11 months ago

KULA,

Unlike some other shallow yet talented teams who peaked a few weeks ago, our ingredients are still being mixed...

I really like our chances...

We have things to work on, but when we are good, we are really good...

And when we are bad...

We tend to win!

(for the record, I don't think we should worry about X, his primary focus needs to be Defense, boxing out, setting picks & taking the ball to the hole).

Later in the season, his three will find its moments again, but when he starts shooting it again, finally, it will fit into the flow of our offense (thank you X for not bombing away the last 3 games!)....

But honestly, his 3 is the last thing we need right now -- when our starting five is rested, we can score at will with a lot of other simple gadgetry...

kumax 9 years, 11 months ago

I'm a KU grad who lives in Boulder and I always attend the KU- CU games. It's amazing to me just how difficult it is to separate ourselves in this arena. More often than not- we seem to come in lethargic and unfocused. Even though we played relatively well at times in the first half- we looked only half- interested much of the game. Sure, the free- throw shooting was crazy pathetic... but something tells me that FT shooting is about focus and presence on the court. At times, the 'hawks looked like they thought this was a "gimme" game and they were entitled to waltz in- waltz out without breaking a sweat.

Some things were agonizingly prevalent again tonite... TT doing a crazy drive into traffic (3-4 CU players) and no help in sight. X disappearing on occasion... missing a defensive assignment 3 or 4 times and afraid to drive with the ball. Several missed bunnies- no desire to fight near the basket (notable exception being Marcus during OT when he just WOULDN'T give up- awesome rebounding and fighting for the final bucket) Sherron trying to do too much and throwing too high passes and taking questionable shots. Yeh, it was a hard thing to watch as an almost 40 year Jayhawk fan... but, I'm putting my gun away and will watch again. and again. and again.

Cuz, in the end... I love KU and 'hawk bball and it sure beats the hell out of being a Missou or Kittie fan ;)

Having said all that... Our 'hawks better learn from tonite or we'll be facing a way too early exit in March and that would be really sad with all the talent available to us. Coach BS, this team needs a new level of motivation. I trust you to get it figured out

Rock Chalk!

kureader 9 years, 11 months ago

... listened to Self's post game interview ... I love the Jayhawks and I have the highest respect for Coach Self ... I know that any road win is a good win, and I get Coach Self's tendency to understate things in his interviews with the press ... BUT ..... Geez ... in 40 years, I haven't seen worse free throw shooting ... Fort Hays State could beat Colorado. We're up 16 midway through the first half, and can't put the game away. Lew needs to reallocate a small portion of the money spent to pay for 70 women's rowing scholarships and hire a shrink for the Morris twins. Markief can hit 70% of his 3 point shots in pregame, and he shoot airballs at the free throw line during the game ... when we're ahead! Marcus isn't much better. I'm not used to hearing "air ball" from the opposing fans ... after a FREE THROW! We play with intensity against good teams or if we're behind. This kind of performance won't get us through the Sweet 16. I hope Self has a different response with his team in private than he did this evening with the press. So much for a breather before playing NU and Texas in the next 5 days. On another note ... it was great to see the western Kansas and Colorado area KU fans at the game tonight on TV! Go Jayhawks.

thebigbeatdown 9 years, 11 months ago

Without question, Cocoa Puffs. Go Jayhawks!

ParisHawk 9 years, 11 months ago

KULA, you're exaggerating. This time two years ago we had 7 guys playing and 1 guy getting development minutes. We now have 8 guys playing and you want to give 3 guys development minutes? There are still only 200 minutes per game.

"We started the season with a 5 man rotation at the 4/5 spot." Name them.

I too would love to see more of EJ, Withey & TRob, but that has little to do with winning this season. I do agree with drgnslayr and you about EJ, his total disappearance is a bit of a mystery.

With all that talent, we are going to battle with two short white guys in our rotation. "This is the way it is."

focojayhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

I was at the game tonight. The parking was terrible, and it had to be a thousand degrees in there! Good God! We will get it together and be fine. Right now, however, I fear for not having EJ in the future. I trust in Self, but I have got to know why this guy isn't playing. Could it that TT is so intelligent??????? No, that can't be it. Please don't transfer, EJ, your time will come.

KULA 9 years, 11 months ago

Paris--Last year at this time we didn't have 3 guys of the caliber of EJ, TRob & Withey on the bench. 5 man rotation = 1. Cole 2. Marcus 3. Markieff 4. TRob 5. Withey. OK, Withey wasn't available til 2nd semester, but that still doesn't tell me why he's not getting a few min/half now. Especially with Cole so obviously needing some rest tonight. The one time Withey did play (Iowa State) he looked great! And Bill Self is surprised by this after the game. That tells me a lot about Bill Self. And yeah, EJ's disappearance is mysterious. Especially with Sherron so obviously wearing down at the end of games (cramps, missed shots) With X's fading, I don't see us going into the tournament much stronger than last year. Except for the strong play of Marcus. I think the fate of this team is going to rely on Marcus. Anyone else notice when Marcus has a good game we roll, and when he doesn't, we struggle?

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

KUREADER- It's one game dude, don't stroke out...take a couple deep breaths. This is a good free throw shooting team that had an off night....it can happen to any team and does during the course of the season. It's freaken awesome we are good enough to get away with it on the road and win baby!!

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

KULA (anonymous) says... Dr Roach--our average margin of victory is what? I'll tell you what it is -- it's going down every week. Just like X's average. Do you really think this team looks good enough to make a run through 6 good teams in the tournament? I don't.


Yes I do.....but realize they almost certainly won't play 6 good teams. I would say 2 average and 4 good....yes, I think they could do it right now.

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

I realize the average margin and 21-1 record. Does that mean he's a good motivator, or good recruiter, or good practice coach, or good game coach?

I'd like to put this question to everyone in here... How does CS rank in all those areas?

Seeing as how he does it year in and year out, has a NC( making a big come-back after calling a timeout, what ever difference it may make), has taken 3 different schools to the sweet 16, really I could go on and on.... yes to all.

I would like to see some arguments against though. Please try to limit your con views to games we lost though as they are the only ones that could hold water in my book....I know it doesn't give you many to choose from.

Maybe your thinking Roy is a great motivator, although a lot of Carolina fans would probably disagree right now.

Dr_Roach 9 years, 11 months ago

soobawls (anonymous) says... Self has completely phoned this one in. I would say he has been out-coached but he hasn't done any coaching. All I have seen is a lot of tantrum throwing and whining about the refs. Even a little zone thrown in and we would be up 15.


Your such a dork.

Robert Murphy 9 years, 11 months ago

Next year we should go to Boulder on Saturday night and spend Sunday and Monday trying to get acclimated. When I used to take my kids skiing one of my sons would actually get sick to his stomach for several days from the altitude. Lack of oxygen makes all normal tasks more difficult, like free throw shooting. Also, the Princeton offense is perfect for the Buffaloes as it keeps the other team chasing for 30 seconds every time down the flour. Now you see how they beat Baylor. Coors center should be called the huff and puff dome.Colorado is a well coached team and they will be hard to beat in Boulder. Kansas looked to have far superior talent this year but it hasn't shown consistency. As much as I like Morningstar and Reed and their hustle they are not athletic enough players to win many big games. they often have open shots but lack the confidence to take them. Self has gotten little out of his recruiting class with X being the biggest disappointment so far. I keep waiting for EJ to become a mainstay in the rotation re leaving some of the pressure on Morningstar and Reed. So our two most talented and athletic newcomers, at this point, seem not as good as we had hoped. Maybe by the end of the year they will start to play more to their potential. This of course goes to TRob as well. We are still 20-1 and on our way to the Big twelve title. Let's tighten up on those free throws and we should still be good to go to the final four.

Robert Murphy 9 years, 11 months ago

Dr_Roach, as in cock roach I assume, try adding something to the conversation other than insults.

ancient_hawk 9 years, 11 months ago

A couple of thoughts:

It was a combination of things.....the altitude, chasing a bruising Princetonian offense for 30 seconds every possession, Cole's obviously incomplete recovery from chronic bronchitis (I saw him go to the inhaler twice), and HCBS's "let 'em play through it and learn the hard way" teaching phase that occurs this time of the season.

Which leads me to this: Disagree with him or not, there is a method to Self's madness.

Phase 1: Big rotation against somewhat soft opponents, let athleticism reign. Find out what your newbies are capable of.

Phase 2: Start gigging them about their "toughness", turn up the volume in practice, let the one's most willing to bang get + playing time.

Phase 3: Late non-conference, early conference. Big rotation, while keeping a short leash. Have them demonstrate that they are learning to do what he expects. If they are careless with the ball, don't play hard, or get lost on their defensive assignment, yank them immediately. Let the pine be the teacher.

Phase 4: Mid-conference. Smaller rotation. Teach less (in-game), and observe more. Who has it, who doesn't? Let them play out of trouble, figure it out on their own. Assuming a usual season, we have a lot more wins than losses, and a positive win/loss record in conference, so a loss or two ain't the end of the world, and can be a great teacher/motivator in itself.

Phase 5: Late conference. Now he knows who his core is. Who he can trust when the heat is on. Rotation size is increased by judicious use of non-core players. This allows him to "steal" minutes in selected spots, and to continue to develop non-core players those all-important "minute steals" in the post-season.

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