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Originally published February 2, 2010 at 12:00a.m., updated February 2, 2010 at 10:16a.m.

Worth the sacrifice: Increased physicality in practice pays off for KU

Kansas forward Marcus Morris is called for a foul as he dives for a loose ball over Kansas State forward Dominique Sutton during the second half Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010 at Bramlage Coliseum. At left is Kansas center Cole Aldrich.

Kansas forward Marcus Morris is called for a foul as he dives for a loose ball over Kansas State forward Dominique Sutton during the second half Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010 at Bramlage Coliseum. At left is Kansas center Cole Aldrich.

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Kansas guard Reed steps up on key late play

KU guard Tyrel Reed isn't the flashiest Jayhawk, but he might have saved the team from losing Saturday night at Kansas State.

Bill Self didn’t fit his Kansas University basketball players for shoulder pads last week, as he did before the Georgia Tech game in his second season here.

KU’s seventh-year coach did bring a football mentality to hoops practice in days leading up to last Saturday’s Kansas State game, however.

“I made practice ridiculous for our starters, our main players,” Self said Monday. “They were getting tackled. They were doing a lot of stuff. Guys were basically, not complaining, but gave their own little body language symbol, saying, ‘This is not right.’

“I heard them say, ‘No, this is how it is,’’’ Self added of team leaders Cole Aldrich and Sherron Collins pointing out that getting roughed up by KU’s scout team was the way to prepare for ultra-physical Kansas State — a team the Jayhawks outfought, 81-79, in overtime.

Aldrich and Collins were all for the physical workouts.

“It was like flag football, a little bit of bumping here and there,” said Collins, who played football at Chicago Crane High School. “That was football practice right there.”

“You can see right here. I don’t know if that’s from the game or practice,” Aldrich said, pointing to a bruised forearm. “You get bruises, scratches and all that good stuff, because that’s how you prepare for those teams.”

Self said the most physical member of the scout team — the team that mimicked KSU — was red-shirt forward Mario Little.

“I thought he demonstrated excellent form, wrapped them up good. He missed his calling I think. He should be on a football field,” Self cracked.

Sophomore Marcus Morris admitted the scout team’s scratching and clawing proved frustrating at times.

“Every time we were going to the hole, they were fouling. Coach was saying, ‘It’s not a foul,’ even though we all know it is,” Morris said. “We did get mad. I think anybody would get mad if somebody just grabbed you out of the air or fouled you or pushed you in the back.

“We were playing like we didn’t know each other, like we weren’t on the same team. I think it’s what got us ready for the game.”

Coincidentally, KU beat Georgia Tech, 70-68 in overtime, the week of the practice in football pads on Jan. 1, 2005.

Self didn’t promise similar workouts this week in preparation for Colorado (8 p.m. Wednesday in Boulder) and Nebraska (5 p.m. Saturday, Allen Fieldhouse).

“We’ll go hard. This time of year you don’t go that hard that often, anyway,” Self said. “We did that against K-State to try to set the tone. Hopefully we’ve played guys the right amount of minutes where everybody’s legs will be fresh and minds will be fresh in moving forward.”

Congrats, Tyrel

Self said he sent a congratulatory text to Tyrel Reed while watching a replay of the KSU game early Sunday morning. Reed stripped the ball from Dominique Sutton as Sutton raced in for a possible game-winning layup.

“After seeing it on TV, I texted him saying, ‘You saved the game,’’’ said Self, who didn’t have a good view of the play in Bramlage Coliseum.

“Coach said, ‘Hey that was a big play. I didn’t realize it at the time,’’’ Reed said.

Reed agreed with the ref that a no-call was the right call: “I don’t think I fouled him,” Reed said. “I haven’t seen the tape. I thought I got all ball. It was just a reaction to try to stop him from getting a shot up.”

Injuries

KU freshman C.J. Henry, who suffered a severely bruised tailbone at practice on Jan. 22, is not practicing full-time. “He didn’t chip his tailbone, but it’s severe enough he’s not practiced since then. He’ll travel with us, but has not been comfortable enough to practice,” Self said on Monday’s Hawk Talk radio show. ... Colorado’s Alec Burks, a 6-6 freshman from Grandview, Mo., who suffered a sprained knee in Sunday’s 64-63 loss at Iowa State, remains “day-to-day.” Burks practiced part-time Monday.

Marcus excelling

Self on the potential of soph Marcus Morris, who averages 18.0 points and 8.0 rebounds in KU’s six Big 12 games:

“He can play himself to be a first-rounder. He can play himself to being a pro,” Self said of Morris, who figures to remain in college at least three seasons. “He’s still got some things he has to tighten up. He will not be a 4-man in the NBA. We’ve got to get to where he is better on the perimeter in doing some things. Marcus is one of our most gifted players because he can do a little bit of everything.”

All-Star weekend

Self said he was hoping some of KU’s players in the NBA would attend the Feb. 13 game against Iowa State, which takes place over All-Star weekend. Cleveland’s Darnell Jackson has said he’ll attend.

Prank calls

K-State students pestered KU’s Markieff Morris with phone calls leading up to last Saturday’s game.

“He just changed his number. It was major, but we got through it,” Marcus Morris said. "You just try to ignore it as long as you can. But after a while, it gets annoying. He just had to change his number.”

When did the fans call?

"All times of the night. Three o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning. It just gets annoying,” Marcus said. “He was not too upset because we won. It’s off of him now.”

• A previous version of this story was updated.

Comments

100 4 years, 9 months ago

AP story hot off the press:

""Wall received pointed criticism from Calipari following a 68-62 loss at South Carolina last week, even though Wall said he didn't think he played that badly.

His frustration spilled over after scoring 13 points to go with nine assists and seven turnovers against the Commodores.

"I just try not to listen to him and go out and play basketball," Wall said Saturday.""

Michael Auchard 4 years, 9 months ago

Already been a second story that's come out where Wall said that he said it all out of frustration. Still, a REAL coach would sit him down for a game or five for that disrespect. Don't expect to see that from "Coach" Calimari, though.

David Leathers 4 years, 9 months ago

"I just try not to listen to him and go out and play basketball," Wall said Saturday."

You'd better be glad you didn'g come to KU... Have you ever heard of our dreaded treadmill?

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

The Wall story is nothing, same thing happened with Taylor not even 2 weeks ago did Coach sit him, no.

53jayhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

In case anyone is interested - ESPN Classic is having a KU - Texas marathon next Monday. They will rebroadcast 5 recent games between the teams, including the 2007 & 2008 Big 12 Tournament Games and 3 regular season clashes including the 02-11-02 overtime thriller at Austin (KU 110 - Texas 103) The games will start at 10 am and go through 8 pm on Monday 02-08-10.

JayhawkRock 4 years, 9 months ago

jayhawkinmullen, Self didnt suspend TT but he did bench him in favor of Brady and look what happened? Both guys are playing better. Not saying that will happen for Cal with Wall but maybe Wall would play better if he was benched a game. But then again, we all know that Cal isnt really a coach hes more of a used car salesman.

waywardJay 4 years, 9 months ago

drgn.....

I don't want to take the chance of losing this season to illegitmate cham,pion.... because right now that's what the "brackets' are setting up for.....

Are we the better team? absolutely. Do we have better tradition? Unquestionably. Do we have hotter Alumnus ? We do not have Ashley Judd. Do we represent the game better? Depends on what you consider good "game," If you espouse the principles of team work and the extra pass.... then there is no question. If you you believe that 1 on 5 is appropriate offense in some situations, that free throws do not matter, and that even a low blow is legitimate foul if not called a flagrant then By all means.... we are not the university of champions....

With all the hooplah about Calipari pickup up and moving about 100 miles from Beautiful but downtrodden southern city, to Bourbon Country.... there is going to be alot of SPonsors who would prefer seeing a sold out Rupp Arena and a parade from Lexington to the White House COmplete with presidential motorcade and Horse Drawn Carriage, unfortunately that might be the death of collegiate athletics..... Frankly, Our No nonsense brand of Basketball is not the prettiest to the corporate Eye.... John Wall speeding past 4 defenders and throwing down a dunk on COle ALdrich would make Nike Drool. However, If we are allowed to play our game.... that dunk will be his only highlight of the night...something they can still use to sell tenniss shoes.... after a 30 point waxing at the hand of the most experienced Point guard and floor general in the nation. Maybe im cynical, but I think this might just be another Fix in the works.

All I'm saying is..... I would rater see Tim Donaghy Officiate the title game than to see Kentucky in this tourney.

ParisHawk 4 years, 9 months ago

I want to react to several posts I've seen since the KSU game, so for those who dislike length, scroll down now.

I'm surprised by the somewhat negative tone of the "why doesn't Self do this and that" comments. No criticism intended, these are worthy posts; it's just that we are at a high point of a great season so far and I hope we are all enjoying the ride.

Someone wrote "in critical situations, why doesn't Self draw up a play instead of just giving the ball to Sherron?" Sorry, Self is giving the ball to Sherron AND drawing up a play. TV replays have shown the play unfolding. This is a straw man argument.

There are still a number of posts about EJ / CJ / TRob / Withey not getting minutes. There is a shift from "why aren't they getting minutes?" to "why didn't they get minutes?", so we are all aware that the rotation is pretty much set. Here's my attempt to take stock. Disclaimer: I love all these guys.

Withey : ineligible, injured; couldn't practice for almost two months. Not his fault, not Self's fault.

CJ : frequently injured ever since Boot Camp, has had his practice time completely disrupted. No wonder his offense is ahead of his defense. Not his fault, not Self's fault.

TRob : got minutes and chances early in the season, but couldn't develop fast enough. When the ball goes into him, sometimes forces a shot when he should pass out. Not Self's fault.

EJ : Self let him not redshirt, suspended Brady and gave him chances when Taylor was playing poorly or acting up. Had lots of opportunities and couldn't beat out Tyrel. Not Self's fault, but Tyrel's fault...

... and Xavier's fault. Yes, I think Self is reluctant to push EJ into the rotation because he already has pushed one freshman in and that freshman is still figuring himself out. If X were a sophomore or playing like one then I think it would be easier to take more chances on EJ.

Bottom line, we have an 8-man rotation with 5 guys we can count on, two who can do what is required but have to be more consistent / foul less, and one who is still developing. At this point in the season, one is plenty.

yates33333 4 years, 9 months ago

"But then again, we all know that Cal isnt really a coach hes more of a used car salesman."

Not many used car salesmen have the basketball won-loss record of Cal. Get a life, this man is a good basketball coach. That he cuts corners and gets caught only means that despite his demeanor he isn't as slick as most. He needed to study under John Wooden.

bradynsdad 4 years, 9 months ago

53jayhawk thank you for that information. i think p.t.i. made the best case about wall and all other players in the fact that they all need to be in college several years to understand how to play as a team and run the plays the coach tells you to. it is obvious to see most players including almost all of kentuckys, only care about their playing time and numbers. this is why only selfless teams win championships. given the choice between a one year wonder wall or a four year morningstar ill take the morningstar.

Rick Arnoldy 4 years, 9 months ago

Why are these kids not smart enough to turn their phones off at night?

Dyrk Dugan 4 years, 9 months ago

thoughts from the game:

the Tyrel Reed play WAS huge...he knocked it out clean as a whistle. there was NO foul. a very good hustle play, and needed.

KU WAS tough in the game....just as tough as k-state for sure, and those practice sessions were great preparation.

Key stat of the game: we made (22) as many free throws as KSU attempted. Huge, because the kitties pride themselves of getting to the free throw line a ton. there were some bad calls in the game, but it couldn't have worked out much better for KU.

all that was need for a solid eight to 10 point win was (a) a few more layups made in the 1st half and (b) a reasonable amount of offensive rebounds for them. Coach Self said at halftime to Erin Andrews "they just killed us on the boards," and then promptly went out and got almost twice as many putback chances in the 2nd half as the 1st.

a very good win, and KU fans should feel good about it. Now, just survive at CU. Go Jayhawks!

omng392 4 years, 9 months ago

Thanks 53jayhawk for the information on the U... I was at that game in 2002!!! There were a ton of KU alumni at that game!!!

Woody Cragg 4 years, 9 months ago

When you've played yourself into being a good pick you should leave. The upside is to great to risk a decline. Remember Chenowith? That said, a degree is an absolute requirement in life. But if only 3 or 4 semesters remain young guys can go back should they flame out or get injured. Pro team mates and coaches don't have the level of paintence these kids are experiencing now, plus the lifestyle is adult, real & even scary at times. Some college coaches don't want the OAD's. If the young man is willing to make the commitment and sacrafice to become a better player, then oft times the maturity level increases as well. Then the light bulb finally comes on & the kid realizes, "Gee, I might not be able to play at the next level" or, "Maybe I should finish school so I can do something else to make a good living." That's why I think Cole should go & X should come back. That is unless he starts to shine alot brighter these next 2 months. That's just my opinion & better reasoning is certainly out there as well. Some kids never grow up. The world's full of immaturity & idiots. But these young men should be thankful they"re playing somewhere they are really cared for as people, plus have a chance to get an education, which is of much greater importance. We're lucky to have landed Bill Self when we did. Boone pickens had a helluva lot more money, and Wall & Calipari were made for each other. At least I think so. Kids like that probably wouldn't have lasted a day with the General. Neither one of them.

Alan Braun 4 years, 9 months ago

Sounds like the farmers have learned a few tricks from the Antlers in Columbia. That phone deal is something those clowns have been pulling for years.

BCRavenJHawkfan 4 years, 9 months ago

At least Wall confirmed something I have thought for a long time. "I just try not to listen to him"...............

Then again, maybe Calipari has nothing important to tell them.

Brett Arnberger 4 years, 9 months ago

I don't know how many people have noticed or said anything, primarily because this is a one game at a time league and going undefeated in conference play is highly unlikely, but I was looking at the schedule and should we go 15-0 and have the last game at Missouri.....we would be fighting for 16-0 in conference and our 2000th win! How sweet would it be to win #2000 in Missouri's own building? I know we still have games against the likes of Texas & KSU again, but just throwing out some wishful thinking!

Will be in Boulder tomorrow night to root on the Hawks! Looking forward to it! RCJH!!!

doctorWho 4 years, 9 months ago

"Why are these kids not smart enough to turn their phones off at night?"

I think he is leaves it on intentionally just in case Morningstar needs a ride home . . .

Seriously, I'm sure he knows where the off button is, but simply chooses not to use it or, possibly forgets to use it after practicing his arse off so you can sit in front of the tube and drool over his skills.

100 4 years, 9 months ago

Wayward, sorry to ruin your fantasy, but Ashley Judd has had more plastic surgery than a set of Goodyears.

Looking at her, you could just as easily be looking at George Lopez in drag.

It's ridiculous what they can do with surgery nowdays....

If we're gonna give anyone props, we need to start with her Doctor...

JayDocMD 4 years, 9 months ago

I saw Markieff on the bench motioning to the KSU fans in the waning moments of OT: looked like he mimicking talking on the phone and pointing at them and smiling. Perhaps encouraging more calls to discuss the game's outcome?

P.S. thx for the props on the Judd bodywork

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

yates33333,

Copy.

Cal Can Coach!

Cal Can Cut Corners.

And...

Cal Can 'Cruit. :-)

Steve Brown 4 years, 9 months ago

The win in Manhatten was big time toward our goal of winning another conf. crown. Texas could use one more loss before we get to Austin.

Take care of business in Boulder at 2 minute mark let's hear the Chant!

for newbies it is done while ball in play, clock ticking. It is suspended during time outs while HCBS is speaking to player huddle. Let's have lots of bass tones and extension on the U at the end of the chant... someone sneak a tuba or gong into the gym.

Larry Smith 4 years, 9 months ago

I just do not understand this preoccupation with Kentucky and Calipari that some of our fans have.

jahawkdave 4 years, 9 months ago

You know KU is an elite and highly respected team when the team you beat moves up in the polls.

KSU moved up from 11 to 10 in the AP and from 13 to 11 in the Coaches, the Baylor win helped, but l'd say playing KU tough while still losing helped as well.

If Keif turned off his phone he might miss a booty call?

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

To anyone who cares,

Late Monday night, I went on a huge (and very satisfying vendetta) against Princeton Ball and Jeff Bzdelik and all the other Princeton ball cult members that are underperforming at so many schools these days. I am pasting it in again today, as if I were having a huge breakfast with black coffee after a really great night of amor.

Moderation in all things, including moderation, as the French saying goes. :-)

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Monday Late Thinking about Bzdelik and Janks:

Many talk about what a great job Bzdelik is doing at CU. They say CU may not have the greatest record, but that CU is in every game. I'm not so sure.

When you play the Princeton, or any other deliberate, ball control offense, and run the clock 35-45 seconds every time down the floor, the scores are going to seem closer than they really are.

Regardless, the hard facts are that Boulder Juco, formerly known as Colorado University, lead by Bzdelik this year is 1-4 in conference and 10-9 over all.

No one is cutting Okie Baller Doc Sadler any similar slack for being 0-4 and 12-7 at Lincoln Community College.

Why?

Because Sadler's players, though inadequately talented, go out and play like men trying to win. They lose about the same amount, but by bigger spreads. They take calculated risks to try to win. They are not trying to lose by as little as possible, as is Boulder Juco under Bzdelik.

One of the on-going problems I have with slow-down offenses is their unspoken willingness to settle for losing by as little as possible.

They also have a kind of voodoo faith in the idea that if you play to hang close in most games, somehow you will get lucky win more than if you play to win.

Why do I say they do this?

Because coaches like Bzdelik do not tailor their offenses to fit their material year in and year out.

Every year, the Princeton guys run the same dumb thing.

Pete Carril ran the Princeton whether he had Dollar Bill Bradley, or Sigmund Studywell, at the 3 spot. What kind of sense does that make?

John Thompson Version 2.0, who assisted Carril, took the same Mickey Mouse offense down to Georgetown, and has run it with some success, when he had tons of talent, not when not.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Others who play this goofy offense, or who have, include:

  • Air Force under Joe Scott, a former Carril player and protege and former Princeton head coach
  • Northwestern under Bill Carmody, another Carril protege and a former Princeton head coach
  • Richmond under Chris Mooney, a former Princeton player and assistant coach at Air Force
  • Brown University and Oregon State University under Craig Robinson, a former Princeton player and Northwestern assistant coach
  • Samford University under Jimmy Tillette
  • USC under Tim Floyd
  • University of Denver under former Princeton coach Joe Scott
  • Arizona State University under Herb Sendek
  • Monmouth University under Dave Calloway
  • University of North Dakota under Brian Jones
  • University of Colorado, currently[1] under head coach Jeff Bzdelik
  • University of Wisconsin, under coach Bo Ryan, runs the Swing Offense, which is loosely based on the Princeton.

I think we can even throw UMKC onto this list.

Now, if we drop Wisconsin and Ryan from the list, because they don't really run it, and former Okie Baller Tim Floyd of USC, because he is gone for handing out big cash to recruits, we are left with Herb Sendek at ASU and Georgetown's John Thompson Version 2.0 as the only remotely successful users of the "I can't win, so I'll lose by as little as possible" offense.

Georgetown is a crown jewel in the Princeton tiara this year.

Georgetown is 6-3 (4th in the Big East) and 16-4 overall. Impressive!

Sendek and ASU are a scintillating 5-4 (4th) and 15-7, albeit in a rebuilding year.

Oh, yes, almost forgot Bill Carmody and Northwestern.

Northwestern is 3-6 (9th place) and 14-7.

Out of respect to the First Lady of the USA, I guess we have to mention Craig Robinson at Oregon State University, too.

Oregon State U is 3-6 in conference (in the cellar) and 9-12 overall.

Sound familiar?

To reiterate, Bzdelik is 0-4 (B-12 cellar) and 12-7.

If you take away the cupcakes and cellar dwellers played by these Princeton offense teams, most would have almost no wins at all.

Increasingly it appears the Princeton offense is more of an offensive ideology than an effective offense.

Ideologies, you recall, are things believed in without question and regardless of the results and outcomes they produce.

Bzdelik is a key ideologue.

Bzdelik is in the cellar.

Colorado needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

They need to drop out of the cult that tries to lose by as little as possible, and they need to go out and find themselves a basketball coach that plays to win. Basketball is competitive sport after all.

Tim Jankovich is 8-1 (first in the conference) and 15-5 in a rebuilding year at Illinois State, after having a stellar record last year.

Boulder Juco ought to fire Bzdelik and hire Janks ASAP.

I'd hate for KU to have to compete against him, but that's the whole point, from Colorado's point of view, isn't it?

ParisHawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Ambersqueenee,

Yes indeed, getting win number 2000 at Missouri would be great.

What would also be great is getting to 2000 before North Carolina. They need three more wins and they may have trouble getting them during the regular season.

Imagine getting to win 2000 before UNC at Missouri : too good to be true !

In any case, with good success in conference and during both tournaments we could easily pass UNC for total wins by the end of the season, even if they get to 2000 before us.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Post Script: The probable truth is that the coaches of this goofy offense that produces such generally poor results today get hired, because of Chancellors and Presidents who like to walk around saying, "Our coach is from Princeton, and/or our coach runs the Princeton offense." Princeton still has a great deal of cache academically and in certain realms of the oligarchy. With a "Princeton" coach, university Presidents get to shrug and think, "Yeah, we suck just like always, but now at least we have some Princeton pedigree." Look at the list of coaches and where most of them came from. They are Carril disciples, or cronies if you prefer. But here's the truth about hiring in academia. You want to attract the persons that attract the big money grants, the big research projects, and the big TV revenues. Where do you find guys like that? You find them at the academic institutions that have long been the best in their particular fields. You don't go to Idaho State to find the next great Post Monetarist economist. You go to MIT, Harvard, Yale, or Berkeley, and find young guys who have studied and learned in the richest intellectual loam available. KU has always had the good sense to hire a lot of young, up and coming faculty from better schools than it in any number of fields. No one thinks twice that they do it. Well, here's the skinny on coaching, dear President of Colorado University. In basketball, University of Kansas is the MIT, Harvard, Yale, and Berkeley of college basketball coaching all rolled into one. KU is so dominant in this field that it has kept UNC stalked in great head coaches since the early 1960s. KU is so dominant in basketball coaching that its coaches pioneered practically every aspect of the game we see today, and the few terrific things that weren't devised by KU coaches, have been absorbed into the KU basketball legacy by outside hires from the greatest coaching bloodlines outside of the KU coaching family tree. KU has the richest coaching tradition of any school in the nation and by an order of magnitude. Believe me, if the Princeton offense were worth even a thimble of spit, KU would long ago have vacuumed it and the best coaches of it into the KU basketball legacy to keep it as vital as possible. Again, Colorado is a very respected institution academically. It deserves to play a state-of-the-art brand of basketball coached by someone with a terrific coaching pedigree, not a member of the Carril cult. Sox Walseth, who struggled mightily while at CU, but who played to win and produced a few good teams doing so, has to be spinning nauseously in his grave about what has become of CU basketball. It is a terrible philosophy to try to lose by as little as possible in any game. It brings shame and disrespect on losing. Losing used to be respectable, if you did your best and played to the very best of your abilities.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

The Princeton offense is the embodiment of not trying to be the best you can be. It is a tyranny of intellect oppressing the pursuit competitive greatness. I don't care if CU upsets KU tonight 42-41, because statistics indicate upsets happen out at the tail end of any distribution of any offense. But night in and night out asking players to play to lose by as little as possible is cruel to the players and corrosive to the greatest game ever invented.

Rock chalk!

Michael Auchard 4 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, just walking around campus you can see tons of hotties at even the post-grad level that make Judd look like crap. Remember when she came to Allen Fieldhouse to watch her 'Cats and the bags under her eyes were practically hitting the floor?

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 9 months ago

doctorWho,

I suppose that if Brady Morningstar needs a right home in the middle of the night, then Markieff is going to wake up Tyshawn so he can borrow Scott Pollard's old Tahoe?

KGphoto 4 years, 9 months ago

Myeh. Actually this is more how Naismith intended it. So saying it's corrosive to the greatest game ever invented is soundly outside the smart circle.

KGphoto 4 years, 9 months ago

Judd is also an attention starved, bi-polar, train wreck emotionally. Like the rest of the UK women. (see, Indy 500 http://evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ashley2.jpg ) She's not a fan of Kentucky, she's a fan of Ashley Judd.

trueblue9 4 years, 9 months ago

Strange how there's an injury report under the story of this stupidity. Intentionally hard fouls on our best players? Dumb.

100 4 years, 9 months ago

Jayhawk86,

you make a valid point.

Sometimes, my friend, we need to just lean back & relax -- Kentucky basketball is like it's own soap opera. We can avoid it entirely. Or we can laugh at the craziness of what Derrick Rose has done for John Calipari's career.

Now, if we're just going to talk KU basketball, KU's last three games have been great. I love as the article points out that we have Coach Self having the red squad tackling the first team in practice. This gets me pumped to see Mario Little next year -- I haven't seen a turn around jumper as smooth as his since a man in Chicago won 6 of those shiny things.

So why is Cal asking Wall to call Rose for advice? In a National Article nontheless? (sorry forgot to not go there)

Let's talk KU hoops then...

Here are my questions re KU:

  1. Who will we sign for next year?

  2. Will Coach Self begin subbing more in honor of getting platoons ready for small stretches during NCAA (the idea being to feel comfortable wearing athletic pressure teams down during the tournament).

  3. How great is it that TT is taking the ball to the hole!?!?

  4. How great is it that X is taking the ball inside!?!?

  5. Does it seem like we need to work on crisp passing (as opposed to loopy stuff)?

  6. Does anyone else think platooning five guys would be valuable for certain games? Such as -- 5. Withey 4. Kief 3. Reed 2. EJ 1. TT ??? Just for a couple minutes... Even if we keep the score even, it just seems invaluable... Then when our starters go back in, we just ATTACK!!!

  7. Does anyone else want to see Cole & Withey go against a cheesey zone again? There's no stopping it, someone has to be left open. If they pack it in, we get 12 footers anytime we want it.

  8. Does anyone else think we need to work on pullup 15 footers? Those are the easiest shots in the world, & what's great is they translate into easy 3 foot jpers instead of charging. Carl Henry, Dave Robisch, Bud Stallworth, Rex Walters, Jo Jo White, Darnell Valentine, Keith Langford were some of the best we've had at this. Sherron is great at this now, but I'd love the others to work on this. I get the feeling CJ loves the pullup & i'd love to see X work on this & just get up quick. It's a skill that can be taught.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

100,

Medicine has a term of Calipari's UK basketball. It is called a "self-limiting" infection.

Tony Bandle 4 years, 9 months ago

St.Louis Post Dispatch just published their predictions for the Midwest Regional Finals.....BYU, Michigan State, Ohio State and...get ready for this.....KANSAS STATE!!!!!!!!

I thought it was a typo, but it clearly listed the Wildcats as well as their next two road games.

God, I hate my state from November till April!!!

100 4 years, 9 months ago

What also is interesting considering Carolina fans have taken an intense interest in Wall (considering Roy didn't want him & they don't have a point guard this year), is what they have to say about his SAT status on the national blogs. They are certain Roy knew something about the 400 point spike in his SAT.

They also are certain, like drgnslyr is alluding to, that this is dangerous territory for the NCAA. Many in that office might have a gut feeling about him. But he has brought such money into the NCAA already by taking the job that Derrick Rose & Robert Dozier & Marcus Camby helped him land. Let's face it, Cal has always said, "If you can't play, I can't hide you in my offense."

it's a double edged sword for the NCAA. Of any state would have inside information on Wall's high school dealings, it would be Carolina.

The smoke is there, but much like Rose, we are left to wait until after the tournament to even know if anything is being investigated...

I know enough about the SAT to know that a 400 point jump is basically impossible.

And I know enough about Wall to know he was going wherever Cal was.

Drgnslyr is right -- this is about keeping the sport clean. Cal brags about Wall's grades, well let's take a look at what he's taken, shall we? Wow he got an A in a bowling class!

Just as Bob Knight says, the true sadness of the OAD is what it does to the student athlete -- Cal is putting up a big smokescreen and why not call him out?

Everyone else has to play by the rules -- why should the mighty John Calipari (who by the way had Worldwide Wes bring Lebron James to Lexington for the last game) be any different?

Why do rules not seem to exist for John Calipari?

It's a valid question!!!!!

KU 4 years, 9 months ago

Platooning in the tournament? Bad idea. There's no advantage in terms of "wearing down the opponent" because of the long timeouts. The games last forever and nobody gets that tired. We're talking about 18-23 yr old kids in the best shape of their life.

Another reason not to platoon? In March, you have to play "championship basketball" to win. KU has 8 players capable of playing championship basketball right now: Sherron, Cole, Marcus (the obvious 3), Brady, Tyrel (the steadiest 2), X, Markieff, and Tyshawn (in what I think is decending order of readiness for championship ball). After that, we have some guys on the bench that have the POTENTIAL to be great, but they just aren't ready for prime time in the tournament, yet. That's not to say you couldn't get a few minutes our of Withey (a la Cole in '08) or TRob or EJ in a crucial situation. But you don't want to mess with your rotation in March when the season is on the line.

100 4 years, 9 months ago

KU -- well said. However, I still love the platooning idea because your starters get a chance to get amped up, if only for 60 seconds while watching the strategy unfold on the court...

It essentially insures all playing will be amped, even if it's 38 min per game versus 40...

JWalls_SAT_Taker 4 years, 9 months ago

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jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Here are my answers to the 100 quiz:

  1. Who will we sign for next year? No top PG. Check book recruiting is at its zenith right now. And I doubt Self wants to go through another Tyrone Appleton, or Quintrel Thomas, so he'll pass on the lessers on the perimeter and at the 4. What he desparately needs, though, is a 5. He has a history of taking on project 5s with Kaun, so I would expect him to find one of those somewhere again.

  2. Will Coach Self begin subbing more in honor of getting platoons ready for small stretches during NCAA (the idea being to feel comfortable wearing athletic pressure teams down during the tournament). No. We'll just see Withey, TRob, and maybe the Prophet getting looks whenever separation permits.

  3. How great is it that TT is taking the ball to the hole!?!? Vital to 39-1.

  4. How great is it that X is taking the ball inside!?!? Good that he's trying, but I really haven't actually witnessed him slice in and reach the rim. He winds up gummed up with defenders in front of him. Still hasn't figured out how fast D1 defenders are.

  5. Does it seem like we need to work on crisp passing (as opposed to loopy stuff)? Yes.

  6. Does anyone else think platooning five guys would be valuable for certain games? Such as -- 5. Withey 4. Kief 3. Reed 2. EJ 1. TT ??? Just for a couple minutes... Even if we keep the score even, it just seems invaluable... Then when our starters go back in, we just attack!!! Substitutes resting starters, in platoons, or singularly, have to minimize TOs and very slowly lose leads to be worth sending them in. Otherwise it is better to play tired starters and tell them to play catch for 45 seconds on offense and zone on defense to catch their breaths that way. Can we realistically expect a platoon with Withey and EJ to play well enough that it only slowly diminishes a lead? From what I've seen so far, I doubt it. I reckon Self doubts it, too. In blow outs, platooning might be a good tactic to commence developing now. But against CU, and Princeton ball, its tough to ever get big separation and Self hates playing green post men against Princeton offenses, so I don't see the platooning happening vs. CU. And Self has had to play his starters an awfully lot to create 15 to 20 leads and they vaporize quickly the minute Cole exits. Platooning is a good idea in principle, but it is going to be tough to develop in fact.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

  1. Does anyone else want to see Cole & Withey go against a cheesey zone again? There's no stopping it, someone has to be left open. If they pack it in, we get 12 footers anytime we want it. This is the great potential attraction right now of Withey IMHO, but Marcus is starting to be increasingly active offensively and so it is very tough to take him out for Withey for offense, when Withey guarding is four is a pretty iffy proposition right now.

  2. Does anyone else think we need to work on pullup 15 footers? Those are the easiest shots in the world, & what's great is they translate into easy 3 foot jpers instead of charging. Carl Henry, Dave Robisch, Bud Stallworth, Rex Walters, Jo Jo White, Darnell Valentine, Keith Langford were some of the best we've had at this. Sherron is great at this now, but I'd love the others to work on this. I get the feeling CJ loves the pullup & i'd love to see X work on this & just get up quick. It's a skill that can be taught.

X doing it makes quite a bit of sense, because doing it would make him harder to guard against, when he actually decides to go to the rim. But in today's game you really have to be able to make half to 2/3s all of these mid range two pointers, or the statistics are on the side of letting 40-45% trey shooters take their shots instead. CJ could certainly do 15ft floaters but seems a noncontributor for another two weeks to me, given the nature of the injury; then he has to get back in shape; then he still has to learn how to guard. And having CJ, shooting 61% from trey shooting, but instead shooting 15 footers is a really tough trade-off to make. Finally, guys creating for 15 footers mean Cole is not shooting and Sherron is not shooting. The 15 ft floaters look good, as Little did last season when he popped them, but the team's scoring efficiency actually suffers. Cole on a decent night gets you 55-60 percent accuracy on 2pt FGAs. Sherron gets you 40% from trey and a significant number of three point plays on being fouled when he drives. How much tactical sense then does shooting 15ft floaters by wing men make?

All good questions that made me think, coach. Thanks.

jhox 4 years, 9 months ago

Judd is hot, if you don't agree with that, you're blind.

Calipari can coach, even if he is ethically challenged. Kentucky is extremely talented, my only complaint will be if the Sportscenter hype Wall gets costs Sherron a first team slot on the AA team. Who would you rather have, Sherron leading you into the tournament, or a very talented but immature and inexperienced freshman?

Why do we care about Kentucky (other than hoping that Judd shows up to their televised games so we can catch a peek?) I do agree with the guy who commented that KU had plenty of girls just as hot as her walking around campus. At the KU-KSU football game I commented on how 10% of the girls in the parking lot were KU girls, but 90% of the attractive girls were the girls wearing KU clothing. The KU and KSU guys both agreed with that assertion.

Bottom line, KU has everything but great weather--that's the only thing I'd care to change, if I could. We're a source of jealousy for other schools...just look at how jealous of us the KSU and MU fans always are.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Several Ways John Wall Ignores Cal's Coaching:

Puts x's on his iPhone calendar for all the classes he has not attended, while Cal rants.

Texts his SAT surrogate to say, "What mean play defense?"

Tries to read shirts on Kentucky fans with nothing on them but a Wildcat emblem.

Practices tying his tennies, while chewing Chiclets very slowly.

Flicks a Bic lighter near Cal's head hoping it accidentally catches Cal's mousse on fire.

Fantasizes his tutor giving him all the correct answers through a hidden earphone during a game of "strip NY Times Crossword puzzle" with Ashley Judd.

Waxes philosophic on the only lecture in Golf 101 that he attended the first semester.

Spins the ball on his middle finger, while retracting the index, ring and pinkie, and holding his hand up to Cal's face.

Note: all fiction without malice intended.

Tony Bandle 4 years, 9 months ago

What in the hell is all this fasciantion with Ashley Judd!!?????

Yes she was smokin' hot.........about 10 YEARS AGO!!

We've got Tyrell's sister who is a combination of Megan Fox, Selma Hayak and Scarlett Johansson!! ] Heck, Mrs. Bill Self is a lot cuter than old Ashley Jugless!!

100 4 years, 9 months ago

Jhox, I am legally blind, but give me a good pair of radar glasses & if you use a time machine analyzer to get rid of the $50 million in plastic surgery & use a steel grade horse brush to take away the $20,000 in makeup she looks like George Lopez...

2xhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Maybe the Squid did take advice from John Wooden -- Papa Sam Gilbert made sure UCLA got more than it's fair share of blue-chip players.

Eurekahwk 4 years, 9 months ago

Ashley Judd WAS hot, 15 years ago. Now she is just a middle aged woman. There are so many hot chicks walking around KU's campus. Anyone of them is more worthy of attention than Ashley Judd. Did I mention that Judd is just a washed up actress?. She hasn't done anything in years. You know, Kirstie Alley used to be pretty good looking too.

Jack Wilson 4 years, 9 months ago

Eurekahawk: You can't judge Ashley vs. college age hotties. You have to judge such women in a category of their own. You're right, no comparison. But the middle age babes have their own, unique qualities. As any guy who while in college bumped up against one of those middle aged babes can attest, it's different ballgame but one worth playing .. for a while.

Kirstie Alley reference, very nice. Where's my harpoon ....

MikeOlmstead 4 years, 9 months ago

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Jack Wilson 4 years, 9 months ago

MikeOlstead: Yikes .. don't know quite what to say.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

"MikeOlmstead (anonymous) says...

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This may be the most incisive, penetrating post I've read by Mike. I never realized he could be so eloquent about the user agreement. I am not sure why he felt he had to post about the user agreement, but it is certainly his best post. :-)

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

I am afraid you gents are all selling the older ladies short. No matter; that leaves all the more for me. --jaybate, tomb robber

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

Ashley Judd is good looking kinda like Michelle Obama is good looking. The fact is though she might be the worst actress of all time.....she is so boring.

sizehawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Why in the heck were more than half of the comments about Kentucky? I thought that this was a KU (that's Kansas University) post a note. Hopefully, we will see what Kansas can do againt Kentucky later in the year. I predict that Kansas will demonstate that it is KU that perfected the game, not UK.

100 4 years, 9 months ago

Let's be clear about this -- tons of old ladies around the planet rock.

Nancy Reagan could be near the top of the list...

But she also didn't do...

  1. Plastic surgery
  2. Liposuction (Oh yes Ashley did!!! & by the way -- paging Kirstie Alley) 2 1/2. Breast impants (yes she did, a full 2 cups, some say 3!!!)
  3. Wear an inch of base (what is Ashley trying to protect herself from a bullet?) 3 1/2. Fake bake for basketball games (can you spell stupid any clearer than C.A.N.C.E.R. for the sake of looking "hot" for college guys & the jealousy of college girls that she thought she wasn't good enough for in college way back when!??)
  4. Try & succeed to steal time away from collegiate cheerleaders during timeouts ( the cheer team by the way works very hard, why should they be upstaged by someone who could be their mom/granny?)
  5. Try to market herself using the UK logo 5 1/2. Try to market herself using the NCAA basketball market.
  6. Try to market herself using Haiti (Cant you just give money Ashley for crying out loud, I'm sure Cal's wife loves that you're coming over with your inch of base and fake bongos to her home to have a dinner with Cal & talk basketball!)
  7. In general this type of activity in this "hotty"'s life, in the end, and even now my friends, as Dante himself will tell you, leaves an imprint of a horrific & terribly insecure woman, who indeed makes Kirstie Alley an absolute Goddess (yes i said it!) compared to this "thing" called, "The Kentucky Ashley Judd Liposuction Wildcats."

I mean c'mon Kentucky -- this is truly disgraceful, grow some nads, get the coloring books out of your library & pick up a copy of Dante's Inferno...

It will tell you everything you need to know on this topic.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

drgnslayr,

Three girls with their hair on fire!

This is classic.

It should be in a movie.

Or SNL should do a Staten Island girls thing.

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