Friday, December 31, 2010

Self: Starting lineup won’t be revealed until gametime

Kansas head coach Bill Self gets at his defense during the first half, Tuesday, Nov. 23, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas head coach Bill Self gets at his defense during the first half, Tuesday, Nov. 23, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.


Kansas basketball coach Bill Self said Friday that he hadn't decided on Sunday's starting lineup against Miami (Ohio) and wouldn't until the day of the game.

"I am going to wait and watch practice the next couple days," Self said Friday after KU's holiday hoops clinic for youths. "You guys (media) will know whenever they run out there. I told the guys starting spots at least temporarily are up for grabs and (we'll) play the guys that perform the best at practice."

Self said his team's inconsistency had made it tough to determine who should start.

"You want to play the guys that are performing the best, and it's been different guys every time," Self said. "Thomas (Robinson) and Travis (Releford) have been our best two performers the last couple games on the interior if you add it all together. Certainly, I thought Elijah (Johnson) played well the other day.

"One game doesn't make it, but we need to have some separation. Our best players need to become a little bit more consistent, which I believe they will. Practice has gone OK. But I told all our players that positions are up for grabs, but isn't that the way it should be every day? That's no different than the way it should be every single day."

Self said he hadn't decided if Marcus Morris, who lost his starting spot after getting ejected in the Cal game, would return to the starting lineup.

In KU's last game against UT Arlington, Self started Josh Selby, Tyrel Reed, Johnson, Robinson and Markieff Morris.


DevilHawk 3 years, 3 months ago

The actual starting line up:

Taylor, Selby, Reed, Robinson, Withey


Tony Bandle 3 years, 3 months ago

My starting lineup:

Jo Jo White Wilt Chamberlain Paul Pierce Clyde Lovellete and any guy who ever attended Kansas.

And we'd win a hell of a lot of games!!

It's not the "starting" lineup that's the "crunch time" lineup that truly matters. John Havalcak didn't start a Celtic game for almost 10 seasons...but he was always there at the end.

This should be the true question...."who do you want out there when it's all on the line?"


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

None of them will be as foul prone as Marcus and Kieff, who strangely seem to have as many foul problems against cupcakes, as they do against D1 majors.

None of them will take as long to develop at the point as EJ has, who it could be validly argued has been the slowest developing 5 star ever recruited to KU.

None of them will struggle with learning to be glue, as Travis has, even with a rosso Italian smoking jacket.

None of them will lack as much energy, and have lost as much weight, shoot as poorly from the FT stripe, spend more time injured, and achieve less so far than Withey has.

None of them will fall as far as Tyrel in their trey shooting from last season and have as hot of a sister as Tyrel.

(Ooops! I violated my own rule against mentioning Tyrel's sis. Looks, like I, too, have to go to the virtual toughening box.)

Self now not only has "getting better week," he has added "button pushing week."

I wouldn't be surprised if he calls Miami of Ohio's coach and tells them to come out and start slapping his players around, while Self debates Townsend about which restaurant now serves the best steak.

Oh, but these guys have seen nothing yet!

It is already clear what Self is doing: he is yanking the team all over the place right now, while giving them the false dead line of the start of the conference season as the time when he will let up with the hazing.


We are going to see big time button pushing with this bunch till the end of January.

Self is pushing so many buttons, he is probably going to get repetitive stress syndrome in both his index fingers.

Go, Bill, go!!!!

Josh, once you are comfortable, as Kevin MCCarthy shouts at the end of '"Invasion of the Body Snatchers:" you're next! you're next!!!!!!!!


jaybate 3 years, 3 months ago

jaybate's New Year's Day Prediction of Bill Self's Mind-Screwing Starting Line-Up vs. Cupcake No. 2 aka Miami of Ohio.

1 Niko Roberts

2 Royce Woolridge

3 Jordan Juenneman

4 Justin Wesley

5 Matt Kleinmann (ringer wearing Jeff Withey's jersey)

These guys deserve a start for all their hard work, and starting them would heap maximum scorn and insult upon the real starters and serious back-ups to amp these guys to a conference level of intensity that they have so far not shown.

These guys could well play three minutes before Self sends in the regulars. And if they were to play through Rolls Royce, a future regular, they could extend their PT to five minutes.

Historical precedent for this sort of a line-up was the start Self game to Kleinmann in pre season two seasons ago as a slap to wake up Cole Aldrich.

These five reserves, though limited in ability outside of Royce, would not burden the team with quite a few negatives brought by the starters and serious back-ups. To wit...

None of them will swat the ball out of a referee's hands for a technical, as did 5th year senior Brady Morningstar, or go 0-3 vs a cupcake, or make mental errors on defense vs. a cupcake.

None of them will turn the ball over as much as Tyshawn has all season.

None of them will be more surrealistically inconsistent than Josh has been in his first three games, nor get to the rim fewer times than Josh has, so far.

None of them will shoot free throws as poorly as TRob, who by the end of this season will probably exceed Wilt Chamberlain, as KU's worst free throw shooting big in KU history.


Philip Garver 3 years, 3 months ago

The twins and Reed have been our best players. Any serious lineup has them starting. Although he has at times been a turnover machine, any of Selby's defensive liabilities are outweighed by his offensive prowess. He must start. I personally would love to see Robinson with this lineup, but any pressure man defense would cause this lineup too many problems. Therefore, either EJ or TT must be with this lineup.


joeloveshawks 3 years, 3 months ago

This is my starting lineup... M Morris. M Morris. Selby. Reed. Taylor. With the exception of Selby, these are the guys with the most experience and in my opinion have the best chemistry. I think Robinson is the best 6th man we have on the squad as he is an incredible energy player and can come in for either Morris twin. Releford, Brady and EJ are all great guys to have coming off the bench as well. Releford and EJ just need a bit more time to mature and they will be outstanding starters next year. I think more of Brady than I think some of you other guys do. He has been one of the leaders in minutes over the last 2 years and is one of the smartest and least selfish players we have. Marcus will come out of his slump and both of the twins play their best basketball with each other on the floor. Selby is a great compliment to the twins as he and Reed can knock down shots and Taylor is our best PG. Taylor will never be Aaron Miles, Russell Robinson or Sherron Collins, but I think he is the best guy we have in that role at the moment.


upinsmoke 3 years, 3 months ago

jross has the line up for march. Provided the twins get back underneath the basket at times. Thomas is going to be a rebounding machine come tournament time, and by then TT and Selby should be working together.


Joe Ross 3 years, 3 months ago



Steve Yeakel 3 years, 3 months ago

Twins are good hearted guys (just look at their smiles up above) but hard to motivate to play good defense without fouling, and to play consistently good. Will be hard for Coach Self to favor one over the other, or to play them off each other. They are mostly team players, but always have each other's backs. So maybe best to play them as pair. Trob and either Travis or Withey can be the other pair and play a lot. Or, if post depth is not a problem (if Travis can play the 4 well enough or Withey can get consistently good), then playing Marcus at the 3, and having Kieff and Trob out there, might be part of our most explosive starting 5 (with Josh and either Tyshawn or Tyrel or EJ out there). Lots of good guys, not lots of selfishness, they just still struggling with playing great defense. But we have the best coach in the country, he is working hard to get this group to its best play.


waywardJay 3 years, 3 months ago

I'm not sure how this one is so hard to imagine.

Tyshawn, Josh, Tyrel, and morri.

Subs- Releford, Elijah, Thomas, and Josh.

Should only play in case of fire, or possible withdrawal of Alumni dollas - Brady,


Michael Leiker 3 years, 3 months ago

I'd like to see:

Reed Johnson Releford Robinson

Then whoever else at the other post. I'd say Mc Morris but I'd rather not see him get back in the lineup so quickly after the immaturity at Cal.


KU_FanSince75 3 years, 3 months ago

Interesting on the starters above-----Self will figure out a starting lineup. Nice to have that problem with talent overflowing.


WichitaHawk1434 3 years, 3 months ago

How quick you are forgetting how good Brady has been in the past. He is still of great value to this team


jayhawkinnebr 3 years, 3 months ago

Anyone but, Brady. Keep him on the bench to keep it warm.


AsadZ 3 years, 3 months ago

Dont give up on TT just as of yet. He had two sub par games however keep in mind that the chemistry of team had changed in those two games upon arrival of Selby. TT was playing really well and helped us immensely win the 9 games without Selby. He is the quickest player on the team and has the best ability to drive the ball to the basket and finish, something we have not seen as of yet from Selby in the three games. Plus TT has the experience of playing in the hostile Big 12 environments and knows what it takes to come back and win on the road. He did not start the game against UTA simply because of no practice time and that was not his fault, HCBS had admitted it as well. Unless TT's game declines further which I am very much hopeful won't happen he will be in the starting line up.


Matt Bowers 3 years, 3 months ago

My two cents:

Brady Reed EJ Kieff Marcus "Mook"

With the first two players off the bench being TRob and Travis. I know that most people are down on Brady right now, but he makes good passes and plays great defense. EJ values the ball every possession and plays good defense.

This lineup will value the ball, play hard defense, and kill on the glass. EJ gives you the player that can slash to the bucket and at times Reed does as well. Brady will create opportunities and feed the post. Happy New Year!

Rock Chalk


kufankam 3 years, 3 months ago

Releford's defense was great!! I really like the attitude, energy and hustle he is playing with! I am wanting to see him out there for his defense alone!


Tony Bandle 3 years, 3 months ago

Anyone but Morningstar...his value is off the bench.

Just for grins can you "accidently" announce "starting at the small forward position.....BEN MCLEMORE!!!!!


KU_FanSince75 3 years, 3 months ago

If I was Self, this would be my starting five: Selby, Reed, Releford, Robinson, Kieff. But hey, it's fun to speculate, right?


KU_FanSince75 3 years, 3 months ago

Suspense, suspense! Keep us guessing, coach Self. It will be interesting.


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