Sunday, December 12, 2010

Sources ID Kansas AD finalists

Tulsa AD Cunningham, Notre Dame deputy AD Scholl recommended to KU chancellor


Tulsa University athletic director Bubba Cunningham and Notre Dame deputy AD Bill Scholl were the two finalists sent to Kansas University Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little by the search committee she appointed, multiple sources said.

None of the sources was under the impression that more than two candidates were being interviewed by the chancellor.

That does not mean that either Cunningham or Scholl will be Lew Perkins’ successor. If the chancellor is not completely sold on either candidate, she could ask the search committee for more names, one source said.

Scholl’s name has stayed under the radar throughout the secretive search. He has worked in the athletic department for his alma mater for 21 years. In his second year as deputy AD after a promotion from senior associate AD, Scholl is involved in fundraising, marketing and ticket operations. The school’s website also detailed other duties that might have piqued the interest of the Kansas, a school looking to heighten its football profile.

His bio, in part, reads: “He works with the Irish football squad on a daily basis from an administrative standpoint, working in concert with athletics director Jack Swarbrick in that regard.”

Scholl, 53, is a 1979 graduate of Notre Dame.

Cunningham, one of the first names to surface, also graduated from Notre Dame, in 1984, and spent 15 years working for his alma mater’s athletic department, where he also received a master’s in business administration in 1988.

Before returning to his alma mater, Scholl worked five years in an advertising agency and two years raising money for the Special Olympics.

The timetable for naming a new athletic director, according to sources: when the chancellor is convinced she has found the right person for the job.


jayhawk4life15 7 years, 6 months ago

and ND football has conference ties with...

Joe Ross 7 years, 6 months ago one, as an independent school. ;) Is that your point?

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

Everyone, as all conferences would kill to have ND and their NBC contract as a part of their conference....

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

One, dude has contacts with the big east (dooms day senario)

Two, dude has contacts with the big ten from last summers and numerous other recruitment attempts (dreams day senario)

Three, dude is able to bring ND to the current big12 and save the league(white night senario)

Four, turner gill takes the football program to a national power and we go independent (100 senario).

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

Haha. I'd say. Ironically, you leave out that one "k" and you get a triple "KKK" reference....

jayhawk4life15 7 years, 6 months ago

TCU got into the big east because of their football team and their football team alone. if you dont think KU can join a major conference based on the market and prestige of the basketball program you are essentially saying TCU football is a larger brand than KU hoops

as for point three .... child please

ND is way too proud of itself and its independence

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

tcu will be getting another bcs check this year. the move also allowed the big east to keep it's aq status meaning the league will be getting more bcs checks in the future. and if our basketball prestige ment so much why were we all peeing in out pants last summer?

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

Actually the rumors were that our basketball prestige is what was drawing the Pac 10 in our favor which angered Texas and helped end the deal. I do think most conferences see value in our basketball program, but obviously football is the true deciding factor.

Hank Cross 7 years, 6 months ago

Watch out for both of these guy's ties to DeLoss Dodds (UT AD / B12 Dictator). Dodds is tight with ND Swarbrick and isn't it funny that the real winners of the conference meltdown last summer were Bevo (who assumed complete control of the B12) and the Irish (who got to keep their independence). The B10 and P10 had to settle for their second choices just to avoid looking like fools for trying to force ND and UT into their respective conferences.

Bear86 7 years, 6 months ago

Good insight oxcaljayhawk. KU needs to hire an AD that is connected in the Big Time world of College Sports but will have Kanas best interests placed first. We don't need a Texas lackey as KUAD. If anything I would love it if we got out of this Texas dominated conference. F-Texas!!!!

actorman 7 years, 6 months ago

Hey ahperse, minor detail: if you're going to use a word over and over, you might actually take spelling 101 and learn how to spell it properly. The word is "scenario."

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

Matt Bowers 7 years, 6 months ago

Bill Self coached at Tulsa and I would say that he is the example of class. Bigger doesn't always mean better. The Irish haven't done a thing with athletics in years. The Irish are a major let down in both football and basketball.

KU needs an AD that fits into the system. That person might be the individual from Notre Dame, but working at Notre Dame should NOT be an automatic.

Rock Chalk

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

hahahahahaha, your forgetting a pretty important step in you argument!

klineisanazi 7 years, 6 months ago

Yeah that Okie from Edmond don't have much of that thar class or know-how either does he?
THIS is why some people, accurately at times, call KU fans and grads snobs.
Get the right person. Who cares about what frat he was in.

rolo2383 7 years, 6 months ago

Tulsa beat Notre's Dames in football in South Bend on October 30th.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

And I believe the quote you are looking for is "Touche salesman."

Bear86 7 years, 6 months ago

njjayhawk, I'm not excited by either candidate myself. Keep in mind Tulsa beat ND (@ South Bend) in Football this year. F-Texas!!!!!

Dyrk Dugan 7 years, 6 months ago

either one would be fine....i've always like Bubba from the start, because of his overall success in the Tulsa AD. And he had success at a school (Ball St.) where it doesn't normally have success.

the main criteria for this job in my eyes, is to ensure what is best for the University of Kansas athletics.....period. No other expectation will do. and this criteria has fallen way short in our last two ADs.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

On a side note, I don't know if our search committee follows sports much, but ND football hasn't really set the world on fire since the 80's.

jayhawk154 7 years, 6 months ago

The Irish averaged over 8 wins per season in the 90s and have had two 10-win seasons since 2000. They continue to pack the place for football, have their own television deal and Swarbrick is selling the Provost on the idea of other television deals that would extend the power of their brand even further. I'll take that as a low point any day. I'll bet the search committee has a better grasp of reality than you do.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

over the life of nd football they have approx 800 wins against 300 losses, around 150 of those losses coming since the 80's.

no national title since '88

no hiesman since '87

6-13 in bowl games since the early 80's

every coach since lou has had a winning percentage in the .500's and that is only a little lower than lou's .750 winning percentage. you could also throw in faust who was before lou was in the .500's

television ratings have been on a steady decline because of everything previously mentioned. i believe a game this year rated in the 2's

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

conspiracy alert conspiracy alert conspiracy alert conspiracy alert

big 12 goes after nd and some other school to get 12 teams so we can have a title game part of the deal is nd is on tv every week with any combination of big 12 teams on before or after.

big 12's new tv deal is with. . .wait for it. . .nbc!

Jaminrawk 7 years, 6 months ago

Why is everyone high on one guy because he works at ND? What have they exactly done lately? He's not bringing their boosters, NBC contract and history with him for our football program. Just hire a good fundraiser who understands where NCAA athletics is headed.

jayhawk4life15 7 years, 6 months ago

and correct me if im wrong but wasnt bubba at nd for 15 years?

Jaminrawk 7 years, 6 months ago

Exactly. And he has no power conference ties at ND. Power conference participants quite frankly hate and envy Notre Dame's financial setup.

Jaminrawk 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm not saying he's not possibly the right guy, I just question why everyone thinks the Notre Dame guy is automatically better than anyone from a smaller school.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm not saying he is. But compared to bubba he takes the cake. I would of much rather had Jim D's brother in law.

Tim Orel 7 years, 6 months ago

I know people are going to not care much, if at all, but ND just won the women's field hockey title. I mention it because it shows that they're about more than football. Their BB team has been nationally ranked most of the last few years, probably even more than their football team, and they've got higher academic standards than many B12 schools. They've also been squeaky clean. All that is to point out, this fellow has been in place under a microscope and held up pretty well.

HawkTronic 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm no Notre Dame fan. But I would like to have a guy that can manage more than a single sport school. Big Lew spent so much money on adminstration costs (i.e. salaries for a platoon of six figure associate ADs) that we couldn't be competitive in anything but basketball (and occasionally football). Consistant football gets us into a decent conference when the Texas 10 Conference collapes, but it would be great to actually be in the running for conference all-sports titles.

Bear86 7 years, 6 months ago

Completely agree. We better get a Football team quick or we will wind up in some lame ass conference. F-Texas!!!

Chris1955 7 years, 6 months ago

I googled the Notre Dame Football TV contract and found the following information. It expires after the 2015 season. Under the old contract that was to have ended after the 2010 season, ND was to make $9mm a season.

I have a slightly different take on AhPer's speculation that the Bill Scholl hire for the KU AD would bring ND into the Big 12. Rather, I think that the Bill Sholl hire might link the KU and ND AD's into a mutual defense pack of sorts.

We know that ND football winning percentage and national popularity is not what it has historically been pre 1990. The NBC TV ratings must be taking a hit compared to ABC and CBS conference packages they air.

The Big Ten has asked ND to join them for years, which prompted the Nebraska exodus. ND has consistantly refused, prefering to remain independent. The Big TEN (12 teams) has plans to go to a 16 team conference in the future. ND's image of itself is higher than collge football's collective image of ND. If we accept the ND arrogance factor is real, and we accept that NBC feels they could do much better in TV viewership for college football broadcast beyond just ND football, then how about the following scenario.

ND needs to join a major college football conference to maintain or preserve their lofty position in the college football universe. However, if they join by themselves, they will have little to no control of the situation, other than "joining".

ND is located in Northen Indiana, which is in the middle of Big Ten country. If ND can join the Big Ten, and in doing so, dictate the terms of the acceptance, by dictating the conditions of joining; ND would be able to exert their power on the Big Ten in a symbolic sense. If, ND essentially communicates that they will join the Big Ten, if ND agrees upon the other three members that join them at the same time. The result of this power play will be that Pittsburgh, Kansas, and Missouri join the Big Sixteen conference effective for the the 2016 football season. The new Big Sixteen conference could effectively pit ABC and NBC into a new round of bidding wars for the broadcast rights. This could trigger the realignment of college sports into 4-5 Super sized conferences of 16 teams each.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

piggy back senario (whoops forgot something again). either way it's better to have the guy that just left ND to help us ride that pig compared to the guy that left ND ten years ago. also the name bubba implies he might have other interest in pigs than normal people do.

kureader 7 years, 6 months ago

KU won't be able to separate itself from K-Straight. Your scenario sounds fine, but doesn't take this little problem into account.

rob4lb 7 years, 6 months ago

Interesting scenario. If you asked me where I would like KU to go if the Big 12 breaks up, it would be the Big 10. I still think that seems highly unlikely, but KU does meet the academic criteria. The school to watch who could potentially break up the conference is Texas A&M, not Texas. I live in Texas and Aggie fans want to split from Texas and join the SEC. If the new TV contract is not lucrative enough, they could bolt and set off another round of conference realignment. I personally believe that 12 is almost ideal conference size and hope the Big 12 remains a viable conference.

michaelaho 7 years, 6 months ago

Why are we trying to hire Notre Dame guys? They have been clueless about football for over a decade. Their current AD is horrible & we want his deputy. Makes no sense.

Benjamin Piehler 7 years, 6 months ago

your right; itd be terrible if we didnt acknowledge the dominance of the tulsa program....

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

nd decides to join the big east (11 teams) but says it will only do so if kansas comes with (12 teams) and is in the same division. giving ND at least on free win a year and easy paths to NC games (whipping boy s-C-e-n-a-r-i-o)

jayhawk4life15 7 years, 6 months ago

im amazed at how everyone can all of the sudden jump on the bandwagon of a guy who hasnt even been on the radar until 15hrs ago and who has never been an AD at any level. doesnt prior experience matter? besides, after reading cunninghams bio, it seems like he has proven himself to be a good fundraiser as well has being well liked by the people he has worked with. im sure scholl is a good guy and has done good work for ND but i think there is a certain value that needs to be put on prior AD job experience

chriz 7 years, 6 months ago

Cunningham sounds good to me. This seems like a similar situation as when we hired Bill Self. A Tulsa guy, good reputation, not from a noted program (Illinois was decent, but not glitzy), and he impressed from the moment he stepped on campus. Looking at Cunningham's track record, let's forget about taking a lesser-accomplished person from a more notable program.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

U of I is 13th all time in NCAA wins and has 5 final four appearances.

KGphoto 7 years, 6 months ago

But only 2 final fours in the last 57 years. They are a nice program, huge even (enrollment wise), but not glitzy by any means imagineable. Not outside of Bill Self.

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't entirely know where "glitz" begins. Illinois is an above average team -- in the last 11 years, they've been conference champs 5 times, a very solid record -- but what would define them as "glitz"? Historically dominant?

Would you consider Michigan State "glitzy"? Certainly they must be, as articles on this site discuss the Michigan St, Duke and Kentucky matchups the next 3 years. They're considered a "top tier" program. Yet before Tom Izzo took over in '95, they had only made the Final Four twice in their entire history - '57 & '79. Since he took the helm they've piled up 6 more ('99,'00,'01,'05,'09,'10). To further the point, if you remove just 1 single player from the entire history of Michigan State basketball pre-Izzo -- Magic Johnson -- they are a severely mediocre program.

My point is that "glitz" is a manufactured term created by internet boards to understand how some programs maintain success, when the truth is success was created by great personnel (i.e. coaches who can coach and recruit) and extended by the same. Yes, history makes it easier to recruit, but great coaches utilize that as a tool, not fall back on it as a given. Otherwise UCLA, Kentucky, even UNC wouldn't have had the off years they've had (or Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida State in football). I think most of us would agree if Coach Self would have stayed at Illinois, he would have developed a top level program. Maybe they win the championship in 2005. He probably dominates the Big 10 in much the same fashion as the Big 12 (winning conference 86% of the time). He won the Big 10 2 out of his 3 years.

Hell, he could have turned Tulsa into a major program. He would have had to work significantly harder to bring in recruits than he does at Kansas... until the program reached that elite level.

"Glitz" is a term given to programs that have had personnel work endlessly and tirelessly toward significant success.

ahpersecoachingexperience 7 years, 6 months ago

one of which was with coach self's players. pretty sure coach self was a little bit more accomplished when he accepted the job than either of these two.

jayhawk4life15 7 years, 6 months ago

with all of your great wisdom, im surprised they havent offered you the job.

Benjamin Piehler 7 years, 6 months ago

not bubba, or anyone else from the rinky-dink conferences. turner gill is more than enough for me; thank you very much.

and we didnt hire self from tulsa, we got him from illinois after he had a final 4 and had just set the school record for wins over a 3 season span, ya digg?

LAJayhawk 7 years, 6 months ago

2008 was Bill Self's first (and thus far only) Final Four appearance.

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