Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Draft analyst lauds Morris twins

Advertisement’s Jonathan Givony scouted the five Kansas University basketball players — Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris, Thomas Robinson, Josh Selby and Tyshawn Taylor — who worked at camp counselors at the just-completed Adidas Nations Experience in Chicago.

He didn’t hesitate when asked who impressed him the most in night-time pick-up games.

“I thought Marcus was unbelievable,” Givony said of KU’s 6-foot-8 junior forward. “I like how skilled he is. He made shots from outside, put the ball on the floor, posted up, scored in every way possible. Defensively he played really hard.” lists Morris as the No. 22 overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft.

“He didn’t do anything to change my opinion,” Givony said. “We’ll see what kind of year he has. He has a big role to step into. He told me (KU coach) Bill Self wants him to be a leader of that squad.”

Givony sees 6-9 Markieff Morris as the more athletic of the duo.

“He’s not quite as polished, but very talented as well. He just hasn’t put it all together the same way Marcus has yet,” Givony said. “I could see it coming a year later or maybe this year. He did stuff in flashes. Marcus was great all the time. Markieff would take a charge here and there, put the ball on the floor. He did some good things out there, just not as overwhelming (as Marcus).”

KU freshman point guard Josh Selby, who just recently returned to the court after recovering from a broken left little finger, showed some rust in Chicago.

“I remember him being a scoring machine (in high school). He struggled a little bit in the halfcourt,” Givony said of the 6-2 Baltimore native, projected by as the No. 7 overall pick in the 2011 draft.

“This was a good thing for him to go through. The college guys went at him and beat him up a bit. Josh is so overwhelmingly talented (that) him struggling in a couple pick-up games will not change my opinion of him that much,” added Givony, who said Selby reminded him of Monta Ellis of the Golden State Warriors.

Of 6-9 power forward Robinson, Givony said: “He looks really good defensively, looks good in transition. He looked a little bit limited offensively in the halfcourt. He’s really athletic and plays really hard. He has a lot of tools. He needs to get to be more polished.”

The draft analyst, who has combo guard Taylor being tapped No. 23 overall in the 2011 draft, said: “He struggled the first day trying to do way too much. He turned it over a lot. The next day he settled down and was good in transition and made some shots. He’s a good player as long as he’s not forcing the issue.”

Givony said he was quite impressed with Colorado sophomore Alec Burks and UCLA soph Tyler Honeycutt. Some other college counselors at the event: Nolan Smith and Mason Plumlee, Duke; Iman Shumpert, Georgia Tech; Chris Singleton, Florida State; Scottie Hopson, Tennessee; Quincy Acy and Perry Jones, Baylor; Khris Middleton, Texas A&M; JaJuan Johnson, Purdue; Jared Sullinger, Ohio State; Renaldo Sidney, Mississippi.

“It was a good place to see all these players outside of a traditional setting,” Givony noted.

Austin chooses Baylor

Isaiah Austin, a 7-foot junior center from Grace Prep Academy in Burleson, Texas, on Monday orally committed to Baylor.’s No. 2-ranked player in the Class of 2012 chose BU over Texas, Kansas, Kentucky, Georgetown, Oklahoma State, Iowa and Arizona.

Nash likely to visit

LeBryan Nash, a 6-7 senior forward from Dallas’ Lincoln High, who is the No. 4-ranked player in the Class of 2011, plans on visiting KU this fall, his AAU coach tells He’s also considering Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas, Kentucky and others.

Bowling event postponed

Danny Manning’s charity bowling tournament, set for Sunday at Royal Crest Lanes, has been postponed, Manning announced Monday. He said plans will be in the works to “hold a fun event in the future that will benefit the Lawrence Community Shelter, Big Brothers Big Sisters and the Children's Miracle Network.”


KU_Alumn_2000 8 years, 7 months ago

I could be wrong...but Taylor seems way overrated.

WilburNether 8 years, 7 months ago

Absolutely correct. Taylor is going to have to improve considerably this season in order to make third team All-Big 12, let alone be a first-round NBA draft pick. So far, he's been a disappointment. Let's hope this will be the year he turns it around.

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

Wow...that comment about Taylor shoots Givony's credibility all to hell!! I hope is lack of judgement is isolated and he's right on with our other guys!!!

100 8 years, 7 months ago

Tyshawn is blazing fast though. Faster than Rondo.

Put him in a transition NBA offense with 3/4 years of solid ball control collegiate coaching and watch out!

That's essentially what we saw happen to Rondo. His natural gear is fifth, just like Tyshawn and at times on college the learning curve can be steep for kids like this.

On Self & next season regarding the Taylor point: if Self decides to open up the playbook & run next year (when it's open) like we did in 2008 watch out!

(((if nothing else that NIU loss should promote a bit more running just as the Bucknell loss did for us in 2005)))

WilburNether 8 years, 7 months ago

Coach Self does not decide to run more, or less, based on a loss in the NCAA Tournament. He makes decisions on tactics based on his conclusions regarding the personnel available to him in a given season, and his evaluation of their capabilities and what approach is most likely to be successful. Robinson and Chalmers were vastly better in transition than Collins and Taylor, and consequently Self promoted running for that team. What he decides to do for the next season will have nothing to do with the loss to NIU, but rather will be based on his assessment of this year's team, its personnel, their capabilities, and what approach he thinks will give the team the best chance to win.

WilburNether 8 years, 7 months ago

No, actually, we're not "Taylor-haters," but rather people with a grip on reality -- unlike some who post here.

And it's not "trash;" it's truth.

borderman 8 years, 7 months ago

No trash--just opinions. We all wish Taylor the very best. He just needs to continue to mature and focus on his goals. Once he gets his head on straight his performance on the court should improve. He's not there yet. I don't see him getting drafted next year, not with his current attitude.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 8 years, 7 months ago

Watch out for Baylor. They are doing some serious recruiting.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

Something fishy going on @ Baylor again. I predict something will surface and they'll be in the NCAA's sights soon after.

Rick Arnoldy 8 years, 7 months ago

Baylor has been slowly improving every year. I'm not surprised. KU's streak of league championships has to come to an end someday. Won't be surprised to see Baylor do it (just not this year!).

Andrew Moore 8 years, 7 months ago

I think he was speaking in general terms. calm down

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

If and when it happens, I think it will be Texas once we go into the home and home mode with the entire league, but that still could be a season or two away.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

The only thing going on in Baylor is Scott Drew. He seems to be an arrogant jerk, but he runs a very competitve program, is a good coach, and an even better recruiter.

I'm glad their in our conference. At least the talented Austin stayed home and didn't go play for another league....

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

well....I managed to commit my own pet peeve....

"I'm glad they're in our conference"

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

Baylor is becoming the best recruiting school in the Big 12. Makes me wonder why?

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

My thought exactly! Seems like they haven't learned anything from the Bliss era.

KANSTUCKY 8 years, 7 months ago

Baylor will still be Baylor. National Championship = 0. Kansas will still be Kansas. National Championships = TBD. RCJH

honk_for_hawks 8 years, 7 months ago

Scott Drew is a dirty recruiter in the sense that he says nasty things about other coaches and doesn't really sell HIS program as much as he bad mouths other programs. I wish it wasn't this way because I like the team (especially Dunn), but that is how he is. As for Tyshawn, he plays exactly how the scout said: He tries to do too much sometimes and thats when we all get upset with him, but when he calms down and lets the game come to him, he is definitely one of the better guards in the league and maybe even the country. I just hope he can finally calm down consistently this year and put all the tools he has together. Can you imagine that fastbreak with him, selby, the twins and either little or releford? that is a very fast and very athletic team right there.

hawk316 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree with your assessment of Tyshawn. Hopefully, some of this is simply a matter of maturity. If he continues to mature and becomes more consistent, he is going to be very impressive.

hawk316 8 years, 7 months ago

However, I'm curious where you got your information about Scott Drew's recruiting tactics. Personally, I've been pretty impressed with the job he's done at Baylor following the big scandal there a few years ago. That program was dead in the water, and what Drew has accomplished there is near miraculous.

tis4tim 8 years, 7 months ago

"...what Drew has accomplished there is near miraculous."

If it sounds too good to be true...

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

well. kansas is the one swimming in dirty waters right now, so maybe we should humble ourselves regarding the tactics of other schools. Did you forget? fighting scandal. ticket scandal. our top recruit has not been cleared as elgible to play.

stravinsky 8 years, 7 months ago

"well. kansas is the one swimming in dirty waters right now, so maybe we should humble ourselves regarding the tactics of other schools. Did you forget? fighting scandal. ticket scandal. our top recruit has not been cleared as elgible to play."

Thing is none of those things have to do with recruiting violations/NCAA compliance issues within KU. The first two absolutely sucked and almost certainly tarnished our image, but we're talking about recruiting here. Selby's issue is a little bit nerves inducing, but they're on him for using Carmelo's business manager as an advisor. We'll see how that pans out.

I would not say that Kansas is swimming in dirty waters. We could have stories like THIS to deal with, re: Kentucky --

BigGuyDon 8 years, 7 months ago

Here's hoping that Taylor doesn't think he needs to be Sherron next year. Even Sherron wasn't enough of "Sherron" to get us very far in the dance. Self's teams will always be better when all 5 guys are involved and the best shot is whoever is open. Last years team stagnated when Sherron tried to do too much and Cole was nearly guaranteed to shoot every time he got the ball in a post up.

Taylor is not Sherron and needs to understand that from the get go. Facilitate the offense. Penetrate at the right times (recognizing when to pull it up and not take a silly charge). Hit the open three after the ball has been moved several times. Probably most importantly: lock down the opponents best guard (Selby should not have to be relied on this way as a freshman).

dmb40fan 8 years, 7 months ago

Scott Drew comes from a good system in Gonzaga, and unless you guys are actually in the living rooms of the recruits, I wouldn't say that he bad mouths other coaches unless you have heard it for yourself. The truth of the matter is that he had ex-NBA players as asst coaches, and has put together 2-3 nice seasons and put a kid in the draft in the top 5. Results are important for recruits. TT is a "BUST", i said it and will continue to say it. He isn't even the 5th best player on the KU team, let alone at his position in the BIg 12. I truly believe he will see his minutes diminish greatly this year, Elijah and Mario will steal a ton of his minutes. He's a spotty shooter, with not great range, penetrates out of control, and has far to many TO's for him to get significant minutes on a National Champ caliber team.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago


Scott Drew is a coach's son that rode his dad's (Homer Drew's) coat tails into the profession. He is a classic case of nepotism creating a shot for someone in coaching. He is a good coach, but almost certainly would still be in the high school, or D2 ranks without his dad's coat tails.

Drew came up through Butler and Valparaiso, not Gonzaga.

Playing career Butler Coaching career (HC unless noted) 1991–1993 Butler (student manager) 1993–2002 Valparaiso (assistant) 2002–2003 Valparaiso (head coach) 2003–present Baylor (head coach)

His wikipedia page conspicuously tells us nothing about his playing career. I doubt he played much and probably would not have played in D1 without his father's coat tails.

Based on you not being able to find your ass with both hands regarding Scott Drew's background, I am inclined to think you may be equally challenged when it comes to Coach Drew's techniques.

Regarding Tyshawn Taylor, a bust is someone who is not good enough to start and play 20-30 minutes a game. Taylor, with very few exceptions, has started and played 20-30 minutes per game on two exceptional teams. Therefore, he is by definition NOT a bust.

You remind me of persons overly critical of Sherron the past three seasons. Looking at a glass that is 3/4s full and talking about the empty quarter is fine. Tyshawn has flaws in his game, but there is no player that does not have flaws in his game. To leap from discussing flaws to over-generalizing about players being busts makes your glass of reason seem 3/4s empty, maybe even 9/10s so.

All of Tyshawn's weaknesses are things that he has gotten better at, and can improve still more upon.

Tyshawn's strengths are things that cannot be taught.

The question is not whether or not Tyshawn is a bust.

The question is can a decent college basketball player become an excellent one.

I am not sure if he can. He has problems with concentration that he could overcome with the right kind of help. But I don't know if he will be willing to get that help, or if the KU coaching staff believes in that kind of help.

Time will tell.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Let me condition that definition of a bust. It only applies to a guy who was supposed to be a big time player from the minute he hit the floor.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

<p> and Jonathan Givony said Sherron would not get drafted.

They were right about Sherron not getting drafted.

If I recall correctly, they and other draft "experts" also indicated that Sherron was too short, too injury plagued, and had too many issues to make it in the NBA.

Sherron just signed a two-year contract (not yet guarantied) to play for the Bobcats.

So what exactly are the draft "experts" expert at?

Apparently they are pretty good at picking who will get drafted and are pretty weak at picking who will actually make it in the L.

Predicting who will be drafted is one degree of freedom removed from predicting who will make it in the NBA.

Maybe someone should start a web site that predicts who will make it in the NBA.

NBA "Making-it" experts, not "who will get drafted" experts; this is what we need.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

Hey Jaybate...would there be a difference in making it TO the NBA and making it IN the NBA?

For example, Kwame Bown. He made it TO the NBA, but sure as hell didn't make it IN the NBA.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago


Yes and no.

Of course there are guys who don't live up to their potentials at every level.

MiJor gambled big on Brown as a franchise player and Brown did not turn out to be that kind of player. So what? Frankly, that tells us more about MiJor than it does about Kwame.

Kwame has found a lesser roll in the NBA for ten years now and shows signs of hanging on for quite some time to come. A ten year career in any profession is pretty good these days, isn't it?

To me, the NBA is a career. If a player stays on a team in any capacity in the NBA for 5-10 years, he is a success at his basketball career IMHO.

The NBA is the top. By definition, everyone is not good enough to be a superstar, or even a starter, but anyone who can even fill a spot on the bench for ten years is a very, very successful professional athlete and not just in dollar terms. The role players, spot players and bench warmers all have important functions on an NBA roster. Some times it relates to playing. Some times it relates to an old player on the bench looking after a young player trying to get off the bench and onto the floor. There are many rolls on a pro team, just like there are on KU's college team and not all of them are glamorous, but all of them are important. Last year's KU team very much missed the big red headed architect and bench warmer. You need a big body on the scout team for many reasons. You need upper classmen around to keep youngsters from fighting in bars, or at least getting caught fighting in bars. You need some upper classmen around that have had their hearts ripped out of their chests by co-eds and lived to tell about it, so they can hold they young guys hands, when they get theirs ripped out. It all matters in building a team. Every last position on the roster can contribute something.

The minimum salary in the NBA is much higher than what most college graduates earn. The average salary of most NBA players is much higher than what most college graduates earn throughout their careers.

Kwame is a very successful professional athlete, just as Greg Ostertag and Scott Pollard were, too. Heck, Danny Manning, after the knee injuries, was one of those guys you want down the bench for most of his career.

Not everyone is star material.

Not everyone is even just solid starting material.

Teams are by definition not 15 starters.

They are 3 impact players, 2 glue guys, five subs, and the rest are guys that contribute to practice and travel chemistry.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

good points. it's great sherron has lifted himself to this plateau in life. once he get's that first shot in the league, he's made it in my eyes.

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 7 months ago

It is great that Sherron got a contract and I am proud of Jayhawks who make it to the NBA. Now the question is whether or not he will stick in the NBA. I know I predicted he would not get drafted and happened to be right. Now that he has a great opportunity I hope he plays with maturity and is able to stick. We will find out if he truly is ready to seize this opportunity or act like the same kid in college that did a lot of immature things that brought shame to himself. I hope the best for him to succeed and that he can leave things behind to succeed.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

"He struggled the first day trying to do way too much. He turned it over a lot." Describes Taylor to a tee. As for Scott Drew being the best recruiter in the Big 12? I think we have the best recruiter in the country (Calipari doesn't count, he's as dirty as an outhouse floor)

dynamitehawk 8 years, 7 months ago

fun game... dirtier than Takeru Kobayashi in a mud pie eating contest?

justanotherfan 8 years, 7 months ago

Baylor has built their program the old fashioned way.

Their success to this point has been mostly with overlooked players and local talent. They had never even signed a top 50 recruit until a year or two ago. Their first ever McDonald's AA is Perry Jones this year. Dunn, Tweety Carter, Quincy Acy, all were lower level recruits that developed very well at Baylor. And now that they are winning, they are in the hunt for better recruits.

As for whether Tyshawn Taylor is a bust, definitely not.

He has been a strong (albeit frustrating player) for two years at KU. Good enough to merit a starting job at one of the best schools in the country. He has the physical tools to be considered an NBA prospect. When he puts it together (and he has put it together on occassions) he is one of the best guards in the country.

The only question for Tyshawn is consistency. Can he bring it EVERY SINGLE NIGHT? At times, he gets drawn into the game and lets the game play him, rather than the other way around. His talent is obvious, but as they say, it's time for that talent to turn into production on a regular basis.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

"Baylor has built their program the old fashioned way."

With OPM? :-)

Chris Shaw 8 years, 7 months ago

Actually, Demond "Tweety" Carter was Baylor's first McDonald's All-American under Scott Drew in 2006. Dunn was a Top 30 recruit on everybody's board except rivals (#45). Anthony Jones was a top 50 recruit. Curtis Jerrells and Quincy Acy were both top 100 recruits. I wouldn't say they are "Lower" level recruits.

justanotherfan 8 years, 7 months ago

I forgot Carter was a McDs AA. My fault on that.

The fact that Baylor has only had 5 of those types of guys (when a school like KU signs 3 or 4 guys like that every year) proves my point.

Chris Shaw 8 years, 7 months ago

Damn it! Why couldn't I have held out a day longer to post my "Disgusting" rant. It would have been perfect for this thread. Oh well, here it is again.

With all the talk about the 2011 and 2012 recruits, I thought it would only be fair to talk about some things that are going to absolutely "Disgust" me about this 2010-2011 squad.

It's going to absolutely disgust me seeing defenders get abused by Marcus Morris using his half post turn and face game from 9-17 feet to shoot and drive past them.

It's going to absolutely disgust me watching Josh Selby abuse more experienced players and gain national publicity as an All-American as the season goes on.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to hear all the naysayers about Brady Morningstar......... only to see him knocking down trey's, playing in your face "D", and valuing the basketball to the extent that guys like John Wall call up Morningstar asking how he doesn't turn the ball over.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to witness 250 lb's of muscles running up and down the court only to grab double doubles Kieff style.

It's going to absoutely disgust me to see opponents asking their coach "Who is this guy?" when his name isn't on the scouting report because he's doing Jordanesche (Mario Little) fall away jumpers in opponents grills.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to watch Tyshawn Taylor completely change his perception in the eyes of Jayhawk fans and develop a left hand only to go on and be a first round draft pick for the 2011 National Champions.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to see Elijah Johnson playing lockdown "D" to the extent that the opposing coach asks his 4 man or power forward to bring up the ball. It's also going to disgust me to see a 6'2 guard dunking on 6'10 centers from Texas.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to see "Beast Mode" (No, we're not talking about the soft beast mode Julian Wright use to exhibit) every second Thomas Robinson is on the court.

It's going to absoltuely disgust me to see the supposedly slow, non-athletic, white caucasian kid from Burlington dropping Silver Dollars in the eyes of more athletic and supposedly skilled athletes.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to see a red-shirt sophomore begin his true journey and writing his legacy in a KU uniform.

It's going to absolutely disgust me to see opposing big men completely exhausted when KU brings in another 7 footer off the bench and you can see the defenders thinking "How many big guy's does KU have?"

God it's disgusting to think about this 2010-2011 KU squad.

dynamitehawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Shaw is in to the 'Hawks. Can't knock it. To a certain level we are all sort of freaks. Funny part is that TONS of writers read this sH*t. I know b/c a natinal sports writer and I trade emails/texts.

slowplay 8 years, 7 months ago

"No one wants to read your drivel"....yet you do and then take the time to reply. Stupid is as stupid does.

redlegger 8 years, 7 months ago

Quck question - is anythonyzal the antipsychotic that you are taking (or should be taking)?

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

Like I said yesterday...I'll take any six out of the eleven [provided Marcus is included}, and take my chances!!!

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

"Some More Disgusting Things Coming This Season:"

~Bob Knight will broadcast games topless.

~Dick Vitale will sell advertising space on his head.

~Clark Kellogg will broadcast games in street Latin full of Roman vulgates (and no one will notice the difference).

~UK's starting five will all sign their autographs with an X.

~Bob Huggins will admit that he is a former female Russian weightlifter named Svetlana who underwent a sex change before coming to America.

~Frank Martin will admit that he is a former Sesame Street (Bert) transformed by the CIA into an animatronic coaching puppet, as part of the Company's effort to apply mind control to college sports.

~Federal investigations will reveal that Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe is really former President George Dubya Bush starting a second career under a witness protection program.

~President Obama will admit that he is distantly related to William Quantrill.

~Bilderberg will prescribe full privatization of KU and KUAD. The Council on Foreign Relations, the Brookings Institution, the Heritage Foundation, and the American Enterprise Institute will issue joint policy papers on how this transition will occur within the migration of the USA to the North American Security and Prosperity Partnership. And the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment will issue a policy paper explaining the military dimension of post play in the maintenance of empire.

(Note: all fiction. No malice.)

Martin Rosenblum 8 years, 7 months ago

Will anybody actually ask the UK starting five for their autographs?

Chris Shaw 8 years, 7 months ago

anthonzal has risen from the dead. Damn, and I thought the "Orcas" had really had their way with you and finished you off finally.

For those that missed it, Anthonzal the Seal, provided us one of the most comedy driven threads in a long long time. Because nobody, including Anthonzal the Seal, wanted to see my "Disgusting" post re-posted, I'll go ahead and re-post your Orca video that you loved so much. I know how much you love re-posts.

By the way, you forgot The Shiver as well.

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

kushaw, anthonyzal...well played by both of you. It's like watching McEnroe/Borg. Ali/Fraser, Fischer/Spasski.

That day truly was one of the funniest threads I have ever seen...everybody got into the act.

Totally unsolicited recommendation but I just finished Justin Cronin's. "The Passage". Made Stehen King's, "The Stand" look like a travalogue for the American Automobile Club!!!!! Five Stars!!

Chris Shaw 8 years, 7 months ago

The best part of that day was the "Mocking" from everybody towards anthonyzal the seal and then the back peddling apology he later gave that nobody saw.

1jhawk2 8 years, 7 months ago

I would take Drew as our coach. I don't think he is nearly as bad as Calipari. Why can't Bill get these big guys. We are getting out recruited and soon to be outplayed by Baylor. I doubt he is doing anything to jeopardize the program or his future. He has much more of a future than Cal. Drew to KU any day because he can recruit and I like how his teams get up and down the court.

tstanlick1909 8 years, 7 months ago

Soon to be outplayed? Nah man, not in your life

Chris Shaw 8 years, 7 months ago

You have to give Scott Drew a lot of props though. Ever since he instilled that zone offense full time for the first time against KU in the first round of the 2009 Big 12 tournament (The game KU lost by the way), Baylor has been playing great basketball ever since.

Plus, recruits like the idea for playing within that kind of system. Baylor could redefine the zone defense that Syracuse and Boheim have mastered. Udoh at 6'11 and Jones at 6'10 playing on the wings of the zone was pretty sick last year. Now add 7 footer P. Jones and they get longer.

VegasJhawk09 8 years, 7 months ago

Tyshawn is talented, no debating that. Whether or not he can keep his starting spot this year, has yet to be seen. Like Jaybate says, its about his concentration, his mind set. If he keeps his head in the game and not on his status, he'll have a break out year.

KULA 8 years, 7 months ago

Funny to hear the Tyshawn haters question the credibility of a guy who makes his living objectively (and pretty correctly) forcasting the NBA draft. Tyshawn is the fastest Hawk from end to end, is quicker than Sherron at getting to the hole, has the athleticism to finish above the rim and has a respectable outside shot which will improve with practice. All of which makes him probably the most all-around talented Jayhawk on the squad. I got news for you haters--the NBA drafts on your skill set, not where you finished on your all-conference team. Just ask Sherron & X about that.

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