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Originally published August 5, 2010 at 04:00p.m., updated August 6, 2010 at 12:00a.m.

Selby’s eligibility in question; freshman’s mom: ‘ … I don’t foresee any problems at all’

Self releases statement Thursday evening

Kansas recruit Josh Selby warms up prior to the start of the Jordan Brand Classic Saturday, April 17, 2010, at Madison Square Garden.

Kansas recruit Josh Selby warms up prior to the start of the Jordan Brand Classic Saturday, April 17, 2010, at Madison Square Garden.

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The mother of incoming Kansas University freshman Josh Selby is not alarmed that the No. 1-ranked prospect in the Class of 2010 has yet to be cleared by the NCAA to play college basketball because of questions about her son’s amateur status.

Selby not yet cleared by NCAA

KU's top new recruit Josh Selby has not yet been cleared to play by the NCAA. Selby's mother said she is confident no problems will arise from the NCAA's actions.

“I personally don’t see any problems with the NCAA,” Maeshon Witherspoon, said Thursday in a phone interview with the Journal-World.

“Josh has not yet been cleared. I’m sure there are other kids (that) have not been cleared as standard procedure. I don’t anticipate us having any problems whatsoever with the NCAA. I can’t control what people say. I can’t control hearsay. My statement is I don’t foresee any problems at all.”

She responded to a CBSsports.com story that indicated the NCAA “is looking into, among other things, a relationship between Selby and Robert Frazier, the business manager for NBA star Carmelo Anthony.”

Witherspoon told the Journal-World she’s already spoken to NCAA officials and other media outlets about the family’s friendship with Frazier, who said in an April interview with the New York Times he served as an adviser to Selby in the recruiting process.

“With all due respect, I’m not talking about him (Frazier) because there’s nothing to talk about,” Witherspoon told the J-W. “I just don’t see any problems with my son.”

CBSsports.com sources said the NCAA has spent months looking into Selby’s relationship with Frazier to see whether Selby’s “amateur status has been compromised.” Reports of the NCAA’s interest in the matter did not come as a surprise to KU coach Bill Self, who issued a statement late Thursday afternoon.

“I will say, as we have experienced in the past in our program, it is not at all unusual for the NCAA to look into many of the country’s top-rated recruits each year for any number of reasons,” Self said.

It’s not known how long it’ll take the NCAA to clear Selby or indicate any possibly wrongdoing.

“I think we all hope it gets resolved soon,” Witherspoon told the J-W. “We’d like it to get resolved quickly like anybody would so Josh will be able to play.”

The New York Times wrote a long piece about Selby and Frazier in April.

The paper reported that when a host of prospective agents were trying to talk to Selby’s mom, friends recommended Witherspoon speak with Frazier, business manager for Anthony, who like Selby, is from Baltimore.

Witherspoon, the Times wrote, “said she soon recognized Frazier from her elementary school, and now talks regularly with him.”

“Bay’s been a lifesaver; so glad we reconnected,” Witherspoon told the Times. “He’s behind the scenes providing a place for us to meet with coaches and giving so much information. He doesn’t need us. To be honest, we need him.”

Frazier, whose nickname is “Bay,” said there’s been no wrongdoing.

“It’s a new hustle in Baltimore. People think they can take a kid out for a meal or buy him something, but that’s not what I am about. I’ve had relationships with Carmelo and Josh since they’ve been young,” Frazier told the Times.

NCAA rules permit contact between a student-athlete and an agent — as long as the athlete does not agree to be represented by the agent. Selby would be ruled ineligible to play college basketball if he’d entered into a verbal or written agreement to be represented by Frazier.

If Selby accepted improper benefits from Frazier, who according to the Times was in Lawrence for last year’s KU-Missouri game, he’d have to pay back the benefits and likely face a suspension of a couple games, much like the case of Kentucky’s John Wall, who was suspended two games last season.

According to the Times, Selby last year at times had been allowed to drive the Mercedes-Benz of Scottie Bowden, his former principal at Golden Ring Middle School and coach with Selby’s Baltimore Select team.

“He told me he’s going to get me a Benz when he makes the NBA,” Bowden told the Times. “I told him that’s not what this is about. I’m not in this for gain. I’m in it to see him succeed.”

KU associate athletic director Jim Marchiony said department policy is to “not comment at all on prospects or recruits before they come to campus (in fall).”

Selby is in Chicago with the adidas nations camp, working as a counselor. NCAA officials do not comment on eligibility matters. Self acknowledged in his statement, “I have received several calls about the article. As has been mentioned previously, we do not comment on recruits (eligibility matters) until they arrive on campus for the fall semester.”

Several top athletes have been under scrutiny recently. Selby’s cousin, Memphis frosh Will Barton, was ruled ineligible by the NCAA on Wednesday because of issues about his academic background, sources told CBSsports.com.

Enes Kanter, a freshman at Kentucky, is having past involvement with a professional team in his native Turkey scrutinized, CBS says.

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Dickless Head 4 years ago

I f*cking hate the NCAA. If Selby has talked to this guy, they consider it a loss of amateurism. What a joke.

Rules and laws are not meant for this purpose. They are meant to prevent bad things and cheating from happening. When you start looking at laws for something like this, it's absolutely laughable

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100 4 years ago

This is a reasonable inquiry from the NCAA considering who is advisor was. There's nothing against the rules about having a friend (see John Wall or Lebron James or Worldwide), but there is something against getting paid or making agreements (see Enes Kanter, a tough ongoing international he said/she said investigation).

The good news for us is Josh & his mom from the getgo have been fairly open about this man's friendship (he's known Josh since he was little).

All that has surfaced is a family friend who knows Carmelo with good "inside the box" motives, a friend. A nonverbal agreement is probably what they're looking for, what Wall got away with (Clifton promptly signed a multimilliondollar shoe contract with Wall after Wall left Calipari central).

Seems like a worthy questioning session, but more than likely there's nothing to dig up. Nothing illegal about advice.

Rock Chalk

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areyouserious 4 years ago

much ado about nothing............................Kietzman is making it bigger than it really is too........go figure!

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Jeffery Barrett 4 years ago

Typical Kietzman.....anytime there is anything involving KU, he is on it like a rabid Cat!

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Mike Bratisax 4 years ago

In his mind, it's Reggie Bush part deux!

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kushaw 4 years ago

Don't get alarmed Jayhawk fans. If anybody you should trust, it's Mascot of "The Shiver".

http://theshiver.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7171

Because of Will Barton's situation at Memphis and his tie's to Baltimore, MD, people in Memphis are trying to "Tie Together" Selby and Barton in someway. They Way Mascot described it.................Barton played at Lake Clifton before he went on to Brewster academy. Selby came in a year later from Dematha.

We'll see what happens.

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Theutus 4 years ago

I couldn't agree more hawknhutch.... It looks like they turned to a reliable source for advice on how to handle some things...

It's perfectly respectable in my opinion because dealing with recruiters, camps, and all the insanity that the up-coming stars deal with has to be a giant mess for regular folks.

They simply turned to someone who is familiar with the business for advice, i can't imagine anything will come of it.

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jayhawk47 4 years ago

I'm sure if he had committed to Kentucky, there wouldn't be any questions or investigation.

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columbusdjkc 4 years ago

Jayhawk47 - I hate UK as much as the next guy but comments like that are the reason various fans from different clubs get a bad name. If you read the CBS article Enes Kanter still hasn't been cleared either and he's a Kentucky commit....

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waywardJay 4 years ago

No.... Jayhawk47...If Selby went to kentucky he would have faced the same scrutiny, but they would have hid most of the money he received and allowed him to play with a slap on the wrist......

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Annette Lee 4 years ago

I'll bet World wide Wes is behind this. Remember his mom blew him off once when WWW approached her. To be fair the Ncaa has got look at these things you can't pick choose.

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waywardJay 4 years ago

Columbus, that's because Enes Kanter played ball for pay overseas.... alot of these kids do.... it's not parsay illegal over there and it is here.... Linus Kleiza had similar issues coming over to play.... He'll probably have to sit out a few games, but probably not more than DJack got for receiving 5 grand from his auncle.

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Robert Brock 4 years ago

Kanter claims that he did not take any money from the pro club. In other words, he didn't inhale...

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waywardJay 4 years ago

They just let him bea 7 foot tall ball boy....right.

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columbusdjkc 4 years ago

Wayward - I know what the reason is. My point was his claim was that if it was a UK player it wouldn't even be investigating when in fact a UK player IS being investigated :)

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nobody1793 4 years ago

Hey, better to question everything before he puts on a uniform rather than having to give up victories after the fact!

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sabd 4 years ago

The ncaa is overcompensating after they've been embarrassed so many times. reggie bush, derrick rose, etc. Look at all the football investigations that have gone on recently. They are going to try to find somebody to make an example out of so it looks like they give a s!@t. Hopefully its not selby.

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waywardJay 4 years ago

they got him last year his names Renardo Sidney.... these investigations are getting better just wish they would have found the rest of Wall's money.... and Bledsoe's falsified Sat scores...

Columbus, I was clearifying for those who didn't know. Actually word is Kentucky is under double secret probabtion. Apparently, something involving Kevin Bacon getting knocked off a horse...

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KUbsee69 4 years ago

It wasn't Kevin Bacon ... it was Mark Metcalf (as Douglas C. Neidermeyer) that was knocked off of the horse. Bacon played Chip Diller, a minor background role.

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Brian Leiker 4 years ago

Funny how Wall's contact with WWW and LeBron didn't have any effect on his status. NCAA doesn't have the balls to screw with the dirtiest of all coaches or programs. I wonder how many millions are slipped under the table by UK alumn to the Prez and VP of the NCAA?

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Dan Pawlowski 4 years ago

You nailed that one. Can you say Jerry Tarkanian and UNLV. That was a program and a coach that should have been slammed but they got to defend their title while under investigation because the coach took them to court. The NCAA does not have the stomach for those that fight back.

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Christopher Hauser 4 years ago

When Brandon Rush was an incomming freshman, wasn't his eligability questioned as well? For some reason I remember something like that could be wrong person though.

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Dale Kroening 4 years ago

Yeah I remember going through something similiar with Rush, its nothing to worry about. Selby will be cleared to play I think.

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jhwk215 4 years ago

around this same time last year John Wall was being investigated for the same reason, if the NCAA punishes Selby for doing nothing and never punished Wall for the few things he got away with, we will be seeing the true side of the NCAA

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hailtoku 4 years ago

I think Maeshon Witherspoon and Carl Henry would make a great couple.

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Dale Kroening 4 years ago

Typical soobawls.......................

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Martin Rosenblum 4 years ago

Let's not rush to judge soobawls on this one. He does represent a valid POV. Unfortunately, if you're a top 25 college bball coach, you're not in a position these days to take a stand and buck the system/trend. I don't think Selby will be a letdown in his year with the team. I believe he'll make the others in this new class as well as other players better by his presence.

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Ron Prichard 4 years ago

C'mon, memhawk. There is no way that is a valid point of view. If you don't recruit the best talent, who do you go after? Where do you draw the line? Only recruit the kids that are ranked 25-100 according to Rivals? And if that's the case, do you start recruiting them based on their rankings their senior year in high school? Junior year? Maybe even sophomore year? What happens if the #38 recruit you have been recruiting for two years grows three inches and becomes the #4 recruit his senior year? Do you stop recruiting him?

Every D1 coach in the country--and I mean every single one--would recruit the top players if they had a chance. The only reason some don't is it is a waste of time and resources. They know their limitations and shoot for the second or third tier of players hoping they will blossom in their third or fourth year in college. Soobawls is angry because Henry didn't turn out like he hoped. What about Rush? He was projected as a one and done, selfish, lazy, etc. He's one of my all-time favorite Jayhawks. Without him, we definitely weren't NC's in 2008.

It's easy to look at a OAD in hindsight and say we could have been better off without him. But look at it from the other end of the argument. Self recruits the best talent he can get and he won a NC two years ago. We are consistently ranked in the top 10 and he is considered one of the top 2-3 coaches in the country. When Roy wouldn't recruit the east half of the country, we all complained that he wasn't going after the best talent. All soobawls is doing is trying to stir the pot with an argument that is based solely on hindsight. There is zero validity in an argument unless you can propose a workable alternative. Soobawls can't do that, and I challenge anyone to come up with one on this issue.

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Martin Rosenblum 4 years ago

Point being, in that "perfect world" where a ban on players leaving after one season playing college bball, all coaches would have a level field. HCBS wasn't the coach in the NC game with a OAD on his bench. As wayward said in a subsequent post, we won on a "..solid crew of workers." not by the "..strength of one.". Maybe the most blaring example is in this scenario. Rose wasn't the deciding factor in their season or that game. Funny though, how he ended up being a factor in their forfeiting the wins that season!! It is frustrating for Bill to join in the march to compete for the next year's NBA freshman class. We all know he has no choice and will make the best of a bad situation. He has proven that already. If and when the day comes that the NBA and NCAA get together and prohibit the trend, recruiting will become something different again.

I think , and hard as it is to say, agreeing with soobawls, the OAD phenomenon has damaged the sport to the point of it morphing into a liability rather than an asset in broad terms tthrough the pressure to recruit guys who will only give one season and hopefully more than 50% effort. I still think Selby will not be that guy (at least in the effort department)!

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Ron Prichard 4 years ago

I agree with you to the extent that if the NBA and NCAA prohibited one and dones it would be better for everyone involved (in my opinion). But currently, that just isn't the case. Self has to go after the best talent every year, regardless of how many years we expect them to stay in college. You are completely right in that we need a mix of experience and young talent in order to have that magical season. At the same time, it's easy to look at things in a vacuum.

What would our perception be of OAD's if Mario had missed that shot? Memphis would have been NC (not counting the eventual probation) and Rose would have been the OAD that led them to the title. One shot changed everyone's entire perception of OAD's.

I want Self to recruit the best, year in and year out. We will have some OAD's, but put them with some experienced players and hopefully we have many more magical seasons.

I still want soobawls--or anyone--to explain a plan that would allow Self to not go after the best talent available (potential OAD's) but still compete for NC's on a consistent basis.

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HawkInAL 4 years ago

Still waiting on your KU Football Head Coaching pick s'bawls.....

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David Hodges 4 years ago

Soobawls... um Go Away For one, until he declares for the draft he's not a one and done . And secondly, i hope your a UK fan because if you think your a KU fan you are clearly mistaken. Grow Up! Even if you are an ancient old windblower.

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Martin Rosenblum 4 years ago

Selby's cousin, Will Barton is being scrutinized and pronounced ineligible to play at Memphis in the upcoming season.

Is there a vendetta here?

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waywardJay 4 years ago

I think what the illustratious Miss Bawls is refering to ... is We won our last championship NOT on the strength of one and done talent but on a solisd crew of Workers, similiar to what BUtler almost accomplished last year..... Sometimes these one and DOners for lack of better terminology don't HUSTLE. or Work Hard.

See. Lance Stephenson, Demarcus Cousins....ETC.....

The debate is..... would 5 gordon haywayrds consistantly beat 5 lance stephenson's on a court..... Personally, I think you need a team of gordons and possibly one devoted lance stephenson to win it all....

I.E. Jon Scheyer and Duke, Wayne ELlington and UNC, Brandon Rush and Kansas, Corey Brewer and Florida. Rudy Gay and UCONN.... etc. etc. etc.

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waywardJay 4 years ago

I was not in any way insinuating Selby has no work ethic, Ralster. I would tend to agree with you from what i have heard he has an incredible work ethic.... However, there is so valor to Bawl's point about one and done's setting back a teams recruiting for a year.... i think the ultimate test of this whill be shown in Kentucky this year. That, will be the team to watch barometrically... and to this end... Anthony Davis's eyebrows certainly ARE newsworthy....

Ralster, been reading Bawls' posts for a while and while there is usually some fanatically off kilter stuff flying... there is usually some nugget of value in them.... in this case.... I think there is merit in discussing the poorly chosen One and Done..... Kansas and Kentucky got it mostly right, Cousin's worked his way into shape and never really faced a dominant big with the exceotion of jarvis varnardo aand Varnardo was severely handcuffed both games by The Nike Zebras.

Cinncinati, However showed what can happen if your one and done decides he doesn't need to work hard to get there.....

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ParisHawk 4 years ago

Just to follow up on Brandon Rush, he wasn't cleared until after school started, but that was because he attended several high schools and there were problems getting and processing all the transcripts. So in Rush's case there was no "investigation", just slow work by the NCAA clearing house.

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JacquesMerde 4 years ago

The NCAA has to do these things to justify the lavish salaries they pay one another. It is one of the biggest businesses in sports and as bureaucratic as any government agency. Be kind to these fellows. They need their rice bowls and the public be damned.

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Joel Hood 4 years ago

Regardless of the true ethics of the NCAA, I actually prefer the NCAA give each KU recruit a proctology exam before they touch Naismith Court. There would be nothing worse than to have dirt come out after the fact that forces KU to forfeit a championship.

The worse case scenario here, although very unlikely, is that Selby can't play for KU - yes that would hurt, but not nearly as much as forfeiting your season because a former player now in the NBA. I never want parallels between Self/Selby and Calipari/Rose.

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meremy 4 years ago

Perfectly said. We all know there is plenty of dirty or pseudo-dirty business occurring in amateur basketball, but I believe few college programs are directly complicit. I think the Calipari's of the world are more likely guilty of a "hear no evil, see no evil" mentality. We have to be better than that and actively vet these young kids, so that if they are tainted, they don't taint us by association.

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dynamitehawk 4 years ago

The Anthony Davis story with Kentucky is much more interesting...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/preps/2571594,CST-SPT-cruit06.article

My only conclusion is that I am thankful that Selby does not have a single mustache for both eye brows like Anthony Davis does.

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Ron Prichard 4 years ago

That is one serious eyebrow!

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waywardJay 4 years ago

I hope he qualifies just to hear the student sections rip[ him apart.... WOw tat kid's got a horrendous unibrow.

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jhawkrulz 4 years ago

Any recruit in the Top 100 should be scrutinized. This is the #1 recruit overall, I see know problem with it. I don't even see a story, but I guess a lot of people are making comments, so that is why it has been published.

I think the easy comment is that he will be cleared shortly and we will be happy, or he won't be cleared and we will be happy that it won't cost us in the future. Either way with an investigation like this, it is a good thing.

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Jacobpaul81 4 years ago

Rush, Arthur, Giddens, Henry... they all went under such scrutiny. I don't see the problem. Selby is the No. 1 recruit and is questionable. The NCAA needs to look it over. Especially after the Bush/Mayo/Wall/Rose Incidents. Also remember, alot came out about Arthur post-NBA Draft as well. He was cleared but his high school education came under serious question when a teacher spoke up. Obviously the NCAA hadn't done enough in his case.

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Jacobpaul81 4 years ago

The Morris Twins were also looked over quite heavily if I remember. If a kid's not an A-B student or there's a chance of tampering, they are really checking them over.

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hammr25 4 years ago

The NCAA ignores what Kentucky does? Really? The people commenting here must be too young to remember how OSU got their coach, Shooter, in 1990.

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justanotherfan 4 years ago

The NCAA does these investigations so that if allegations arise later, or if there are issues later, they can reopen the case. That's what they did with Reggie Bush. That's what they did with Derrick Rose. That's what they are doing with Renardo Sidney. That's what will happen with probably several others.

The NCAA will clear Selby, just like they will clear Kanter. Selby makes KU a really strong team. Kanter makes UK really strong. The NCAA wants really strong teams. But they also want to be able to go back after the fact (and after all the checks have been cashed) and punish.

Look at USC. They are being punished the next two years for things Reggie Bush did while every player on the current roster was in HIGH SCHOOL. They punished Memphis for Rose's "ineligibility" while Rose won rookie of the year for the Chicago Bulls.

But of course, Bush and USC were big draws. Memphis and Rose were big draws. Punishing those schools after the fact didn't hurt the NCAA, because they sold a lot of jerseys and tickets based on those guys and their teams.

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kranny 4 years ago

Ask any NCAA div. 1 coach and they will tell you that they would take a OAD player in a heartbeat. It's about the here and now. To put it in persepective, out the hundreds of D1 college basketball players who participated last year, only 7 declared for draft. That's not a lot.

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kennethst 4 years ago

Jaybate....please comment.....help us through this turbulent time!

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kvskubball 4 years ago

I'm interested that not one poster mentioned anything about how the story opens with him having the keys to a Mercedes-Benz...That sounded bad to me...but Paul Harvey got his in at the end of the story...

It was obvious that the writer wanted to paint the story as a scandal to begin...then the writer ends up telling us that a coach allows him to drive his MB....

I would be more concerned with the relationship with the AAU coach....than with the Agent....

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Benjamin Piehler 4 years ago

ugh. gotta be kidding me. Just when KU finally makes it off the espn website for scandal number whatever. i hope this goes away fast.

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Ron Prichard 4 years ago

This isn't a scandal. The kid is being vetted by the NCAA. The only reason it is a big deal is because he is the #1 recruit. If this was recruit #79, there is no way this would even be newsworthy.

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Benjamin Piehler 4 years ago

well i didnt technically call this a scandal, but my point is I'm tired of negative publicity, and especially being dragged through the mud on espn.com. you are right though.

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cobweb 4 years ago

Momma said at first that Josh would stay in school and get a degree. Yeah, suuurrrrre! He will be one and done so fast he'll be a blur.

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Steve Gantz 4 years ago

Makes me long for the days of Coach Roy. Although memories of every kid and recruitment by Roy have faded, I don't recall a lot of these issues. Of course that was largely before widespread internet usage. Some of these things in a different era would have just passed by with little public knowledge.

On the other hand, a kid with that much talent must have to endure an awful lot of people trying to get to him for their own personal gain. Must be tough.

Maybe we should eliminate again the recently instituted 1 year of college rule. That has got to be the dumbest rule out there. NBA is using colleges as a minor league of which they don't need to pay a dime for. Brilliant!

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waywardJay 4 years ago

Keep in mind, Wissox. We have yet to have recruitment violations under Self, and we had two incidents with Roy in the Final year of his tenure. While Roy was squeaky clean and those particular incidents were a JOKE. The Current count is Roy 2, Bill 0.... While Bill as a ring that roy did not have.

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cobweb 4 years ago

Lots of middle school principals with $40,000 salaries drive Mercedes, don't they? What a swell guy to let Josh drive it, too. I feel a tear running down my cheek.

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Ron Prichard 4 years ago

I'm not sure there is any middle-school principal in the country that only earns $40,000. They don't make buckets of money, but they make more than that. I would put the average between $60,000 and $90,000.

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Chad Hallack 4 years ago

On a different note... UK's lawyers wrote a letter calling on the Chicago Sun times to take down an article (which they did) claiming UK paid recruit Anthony Davis' father 200K for his son's committment.

The newspapaer has now released another article stating that 3 other schools say that Davis' father asked them for 100K- 150K for his son's commitment. The Sun times is refusing to pull the second story saying their sources are legit. I'm sure John Calipari knows nothing about this... again.

If this story is true, the NCAA is gonna be SUPER PISSED at Kentucky... poor Clevaland St. can't catch a break!

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Benjamin Piehler 4 years ago

and now they are threatening to sue like it might hold up in court.

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tstanlick1909 4 years ago

Selby is a pimp, he's going to make the teams we play look like garbage. If you're not on board yet, it's not too late. Get on youtube if you don't believe, see with your own two eyes the things this guy can already do. Anyone on this site that thinks he is a waste of a year, and wants to write him off as anything other than an outstanding talent, isn't someone that is interested in winning. He will be the best player on the court in most every game we play in this season.

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waywardJay 4 years ago

Fortunately, All sides on this are suggesting Selby's innocent. There is no Brian McNamee saying "look Deeper.... and you will find the needles..." Carmelo's a big Fan of Baltimore Area high school hoops...so clearly he would have happened upon one of Blatimore's best..... Carmelo's a pretty squeaky clean guy. Te guy who facilitated the two meeting appears to be a Squeasky clean guy. The MOther of Selby seems to be very caring nuturing mother who also Appears to be Squeaky Clean.

This is not some International Agent, pretending to be an AAU Coach, handing out Dollars to one of his areas "most talented" kids..... then DENYING he still held the Agent status knowing he broke the law.....

Whil The NCAA will no doubt penalize us for this, as they tried to penalize COach for saying ":good game, john...." last year.... This is far from Standard Kentucky behavior.

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Scatterhawk 4 years ago

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but didn't it take awhile for Brandon Rush to be declared eligible?

And then two years ago the Morris twins?

How is this news?

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waywardJay 4 years ago

Scatter.... this becomes news if the NCAA finds that Carmelo gave him dollars to go to KU... which wouldn't even make sense because Carmelo would be bankrolling syracuse....

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