Saturday, April 3, 2010

KU’s Self assesses Final 4 matchups


Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self, who worked as a studio analyst for CBS last weekend in New York, has studied Final Four participants Butler, Michigan State, Duke and West Virginia extensively.

His expert opinion on the field after watching it perform in the Elite Eight?

“There’s four good teams in Indy,” Self, Kansas University’s seventh-year basketball coach, said.

“The more I watch, the more disappointed I am in that I think that could easily be us, but in this crazy game it could easily not be us,” he added, feeling a twinge of jealousy that MSU’s Tom Izzo, Butler’s Brad Stevens, Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski and West Virginia’s Bob Huggins are coaching this weekend in Indianapolis and he’s not.

“You would have thought Syracuse and Kentucky for sure would get there, too,” Self noted. “To be honest with you, that didn’t happen because they picked a bad time not to play a good game, and their opponent picked a great time to play a great game. That’s certainly what happened to us.”

His top-seeded Jayhawks lost to Northern Iowa in the second round, while fellow top seeds Syracuse and Kentucky fell to Butler and West Virginia, respectively.

“It’s probably the strangest tournament many people have seen. People at CBS were commenting on that,” said Self, who has attended various meetings in Indy this week. “It’s weird because this particular year or particular tournament there have been more upsets or perceived upsets maybe in the history of it.”

So, without further ado, who did Self pick to win today’s Final Four semifinal matchups?

“Duke and Michigan State,” Self said, tapping the Spartans (28-8) to down Butler (32-4) in the 5:07 p.m. semifinal and the Blue Devils (34-5) to beat the Mountaineers (31-6) in the 7:50 p.m. game.

His pick to win it all in Indianapolis?

“Duke,” Self said.

Collins wins award

Kansas senior guard Sherron Collins on Friday was named the winner of the inaugural Lute Olson National Player of the Year Award, as presented by The Olson Award will be presented annually to the country’s top Div. I player who has played at least two seasons with his respective team. The award is named in honor of former Arizona coach Olson.

Lamb update

Doron Lamb, a 6-foot-4 senior guard from Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., will meet with new St. John’s coach Steve Lavin after the Final Four, reports.

Lamb,’s No. 21-rated player, who is from Queens, N.Y., has had a firm list of Kansas, Kentucky, Arizona, UConn and West Virginia for many weeks.

“St. John’s is an option,” a source told

Lamb will orally commit to a school at the Jordan Brand Classic, set for April 17, in New York’s Madison Square Garden.

Grant on radar

Jerami Grant, a 6-7 sophomore forward from DeMatha High in Hysattsville, Md., made an unofficial visit to KU earlier this week, reports. Grant is the brother of shooting guard Jerian Grant, who has signed with Notre Dame. Grant’s dad is former Oklahoma standout Harvey Grant.


jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

"Some Ideas for Other Awards To Be Named After Lute Olson:"

The Lute Olson National Disgraceful Coaching Retirement of the Year Award--this award will go to the coach that retires the most awkwardly and disgracefully. Criteria for selection will include most number of leaves of absense requested, most interim coaches undermined, and most players screwed by the cummulative retirement process.

The Lute Olson National Cheap-Shot-of-the-Year-When-You're-Behind Award--this award will go to the coach and player that conspire to commit with the most egregious and irresponsible cheap shot of the year, when a team is down 10-15 points in the second half. Award criteria will include: pints of blood lost, number of fractures resulting, number of lung collapses, and Iraq-grade head traumas triggered.

The Lute Olson National Coaching Hair God of the Year Award--this award will go to the Division One coach that comes up with the most telegenic and surreal hair color, hair style, or hair statement each season. Award criteria will consider: color, cut, degree of unreality, and degree of unsubtle allusiveness to an evangelical preacher, or a country western singer.

The Lute Olson-Kevin O'Neill National Interim Coach Force-Out of the Year--this award will go to the interim coach given the rawest deal by a university and its once beloved head coach. Award criteria are yet to be defined, but Kevin O'Neill and Russ Pennell have been retained to develop the criteria based on their experiences.

(Note: All fiction, no malice.)

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Dick Vitale is still picking Contucky to win!

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 8 months ago

IIRC every game last week Self picked lost. Not that he was the only one though.

hammerhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Hammerhawk does not like Duke.

Go Mountineers.

Kye Clark 11 years, 8 months ago

jaybate - Love the lute olson awards. Funny stuff. As for Dick Vitale, what a tool! I used to have respect for him, as he seemed to be in the corner of KU basketball. Once Roy left we saw that it wasn't KU that he had love for, but rather it was just ol' Roy. I didn't see what he was babbling about - in what fictional, alzeimher's induced scenario did he have "Contucky" still winning?

Kent Kossoy 11 years, 8 months ago

Lute Olsen was run out of Iowa because he was having an affair. Rather ironic that Arizona would name the BBall court after he and his wife. Then this award. He went out like a dirtbag that he was!! As a player, Sherron seemed like a class act. But given the history of the fights, the dismissed assault, and other nefarious activities of the athletes in their personal lives this year, maybe this is an appropriate award.

3GJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

@Jaybate- You got a lot of time on your hands big guy. It's going to be a long off season.

Ann Oneill 11 years, 8 months ago

I nominate Ratface for the "Hair God of the Year Award". Hopefully he's not going home with the National Championship trophy too.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

I am totally missing the humor in "Cont"ucky ... I get cantucky, kuntucky, but not this .. help?

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

On the Hair God of Year .. perhaps that could be the Gene Keady trophy?

yates33333 11 years, 8 months ago

Self may have made bad picks in the elite eight, but his analysis is pretty good this time. KU should have won or be winning the national championship. The field of 65 this year was/is weak. Despite KU's erratic performances at times they were the cream of the crop along with Kentucky and Syracuse. With these two out of the way KU should have had an easy time getting to the championship. The mystery this season is why they let down at various moments and/or squeaked by in a number of games. Although I don't know what heart really is, they seemed to lack it. Self complained that they didn't have the killer instinct, and I doubt anyone would argue with that assessment. But why did they play off key, fumbling the ball, shooting poorly, beyond the law of averages, make stupid passes and stupid plays in numbers greater than what is considered normal? Cole Aldrich seemed to be the poster boy for the team after the Memphis game where he saved KU from a major upset. He lacked energy. His grip on the ball was less than average. He didn't play with a great deal of enthusiasm at times. He was paralyzed when double teamed. His play was well below par even after his grandma's death whose illness seems an unusual reason for his poor performances. (May she Rest in Peace). I hope he can impress the pro scouts more than he impressed me and I suspect many KU fans this year.

I sure didn't think I would have to be saying, "Wait until next year," this year, but I am.

Kye Clark 11 years, 8 months ago

HighEliteMajor - I'm not entirely certain, as it is Jaybate's term, but my best guess is that the "con" refers to con men or con artists. The insuination being that Calipari and the institution are phonies. frauds.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

"Final Basketball Four Trivia Questions aka Questions I Have No Answers For:"

~What is the most pairs of twins that have ever played in a Final Four?

~Who was the last little person to start at center in a Final Four game?

~Name the only player ever to eat lutefisk in a semifinal game?

~Why are the semifinal games not called the penultimate games?

~Why aren't the Finals called The Final?

~Which head coach at this year's Final Four doesn't wear underwear to coach in?

~Who was the last Final Four player to wear a bustier under his jersey in a semifinal and a final game?

~When the lyrics of "One Shining Moment" are played backwards, what cataclysmic event is predicted?

~When Leslie Visser and Holly Rowe mud wrestle at the Final Four, who wins 80% of the time?

~When Greg Anthony and Seth Davis mud wrestle at the Final Four, who wins 80% of the time?

~Who was the last cheerleader at a Final Four to become a Playboy centerfold?

~Who was the last yell leader at a Final Four to become a male prostitute?

~Who standardized the spelling of cheerleader as one word and yell leader as two words?

~Who standardized "orange" as the color of rims and why?

~Which Final Four coach keeps an inflatable love doll in his hotel room named Angelina?

~Who first said losing a national championship was like having sex with a gas powered hedge trimmer?

~Which Final Four coach first discovered the strategy of fouling non-stop during periods when the ref's have stopped calling fouls in order to fit the game into the allotted TV time slot?

~Why do players congratulate each other after both made and missed free throws?

~How many pieces of wood comprise the floor in the Final Four?

~Which is the proper term for the surface a game is played on--court, or floor?

~Which referee at this year's Final Four calls fouls only on players with the name Dave?

~Which AD of a team in this year's Final Four said, "If playing nude would increase TV revenues enough to cover my program's deficits, I'd be for it"?

(Note: All fiction, no malice.)

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago


"Final Basketball Four Trivia Questions aka Questions I Have No Answers For:" should be:

"Four Basketball Final Trivia Questions aka Questions I Have No Answers For:" :-)

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago


I was just kidding about Vic Digitalis still predicting Contucky. He is just so persistant in sticking with his biases, you know. :-)

Con in Contucky and UCon (my abbreviation for Contucky) just refers to them being con artists.

I apologize for the confusion.

Rock Chalk!

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago


I thought he carved it on his scrotum pole. :-)

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago


There is an old Zimbawbwean proverb that may apply to you and me:

"It is better to have time on one's hands than seed in one's palm."

It's a long off-season, big boy. I'll enjoy the time. You enjoy your seed. :-)

tis4tim 11 years, 8 months ago

Who gets the Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence?

63Jayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Wow! All of these comments and not one "Congratulations to Sherron for winning a National Player of the year" award! I guess it is more fun to bash Lute Olsen and Dick Vitale than to congratulate Sherron.

Jason Roberts 11 years, 8 months ago

Congratulations to Sherron for winning a National Player of the Year award

nobody1793 11 years, 8 months ago

"When the lyrics of "One Shining Moment" are played backwards, what cataclysmic event is predicted?"

Uh....Slayer magically appears in white sequined jumpsuits to play a thrash-metal cover of The Masters theme song?

That'd be pretty awesome, actually!

tis4tim 11 years, 8 months ago


I don't think it's a sleight on Sherron, but forgive me if the subtext "you're not the best player in the land, but you're the best player that has stayed two or more years" doesn't get me too excited. Regardless, it's hardware and Sherron deserves all the accolades he receives no matter how contrived.

I think everyone in Jayhawk nation feels congratulatory towards him. But, in my honest opinion, there are just too many awards already. However, acknowledging that this is the sports environment in which we live I think there are many more deserving coaches that could have had their name attached to it over Lute Olson.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

Ah, "Con"tucky .. now I can enjoy the humerous references even more. Thanks for clarifying, though that contribribution may continue to confound and confuse those who con't conprehend or constrast convivial conceptual contrasts, contingent upon context, of course.

rawkhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm wearing my "150-95" shirt today. glad not to be watching contucky this evening

Mike Skiles 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm picking Kansas in a close game, 83-79 over Kentucky. Oh.....wait.....that was the game that was supposed to be played.

Oh well......lets get this season officially over so we can begin afresh.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

Soobawls: You are correct .. there is still a very large contingent that believes the mirage that 33-2 created heading into tournament .. believing we were head and shoulders above the rest of the crowd and the loss to UNI a fluke, or just the way the tournament works. The way we played down to our competition, lacked killer instinct, our inability to put teams away, and complacency defined an otherwise exceptionally talented team. The folks that come to the conclusion you disagree with saw the talent, but saw the game results through rose colored glasses (meaning, they glossed over or explained away the obvious)

However, we did have as good of a shot as anyone, and despite the flaws, we were in a group heading into the tournament (KU, Kentucky, Syracuse, WV, Duke, and maybe Ohio St, KSU) that could have been considered favorites. But those that said we were above that crowd, didn't watch us close enough and only saw the record, or watched every game and perhaps downplayed the obvious (the rose colored glasses deal). I think everyone, including me (and perhaps except you), fell into that to some extent. But that's pretty easy to do.

I might suggest instead of pouncing on every comment in that regard .. meaning it's old news now .. perhaps you can look into your crystal ball and project a bit for 2010-11?

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Please, please, please send Duke home. I'm tired of looking at that Edgar Winter look-a-like (K. Singler).

Anybody else watch the Micky D's All Star game the other night? I my opinion Selby was not the best player on the floor. To me it was Jared Sullinger. Wow!

Kye Clark 11 years, 8 months ago

" 'KU should have won or be winning the national championship.' - Based on what? Certainly an examination of their level of play during the season doesn't support this, 33 Wins or not"

Apparently this examination took place after the fact for Soobawls, as he picked KU to win it all.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

Oh my. I didn't notice that Soobawls' pick to win was KU. Obviously me exempting from the rose colored glasses deal was in error.

Soobawls, you have some explaining to do ....

Kye Clark 11 years, 8 months ago

HighEliteMajor - yeah, somewhat in his defense he qualified his griping with the statement "you can certainly make a case that we had as good a shot as anyone else and pick the home team but nothing indicated that we were far and away the best team in the country", so him picking KU isn't necessarily in contridiction to his complaining about others. However, with him it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt as he never has anything good to say, so it's likely he just saw the opportunity to criticize posters and the team and ran with it.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Basking in Butlers 5 point lead with 7 minutes to go!

Will the movie Hoosiers come to D1?!

Butler strips as well as the 2008 Jayhawks!

Butler runs Bill Self's Neo-Iba weave!

Butler was once a power in the game.

John Wooden's highschool teammate Marshall Tackett went on to Butler and became a dominant 6'5" All American center at Butler under Coach Paul "Tony" Hinkle. Hinkle won the second of Butler's two national championships in 1929. Hinkle won 560 games. Butler's Hinkle Fieldhouse is named for this formidable coach. Hinkle Fieldhouse is where Indiana's high school state tourney was traditionally held and is where the championship was filmed in the movie Hoosiers.

Go Butler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Ratso Izzo is starting to sweat now.

Butler just looks way faster than MSU's maulers and the Butler boys aren't afraid of the banging.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Butler just keeps stripping MSU. Its beautiful!!

But at 4:13 to go the refs are starting to call the game entirely for MSU and MSU is starting to make its move.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Butler's got serious length at the 3 and 4 that has given MSU fits.

But Butler's only up 3 with 3:17 to go and the refs are calling every touch Butler makes a foul, while allowing MSU to body check and bang at will. The fix is in, or appears to be.

Butler's gone cold at 2:37.

The Hoosiers dream hangs in jeopardy, as it should for Butler to fulfill the movie ending.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

At 2:23 MSU puts a Butlerian on the floor and he misses the FT. Butler is being mugged on national TV. If there are any cops watching, arrest MSU.

Butler plus 4 at 1:20

MSU is trying to mug Butler, but Butler keeps playing basketball!!!

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Butler's hand checking is cheating, of course, but it is just beautiful to watch Mr. Illegal defense himself, Tom Izzo, get screwed by an illegal defense!

Butler has taken hack'n'slap to a new level.

It is Check'n'strip!!!

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

Butler misses a bunnie at 25 seconds that gives MSU the ball one point down.

Butler's dream looks about to turn to nighmare.

And yet, this is how it was meant to be.

MSU gets the next bucket and Butler has to sink one at the buzzer to win.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

MSU has the refs on its side.

Butler's back is against the wall.

MSU chokes on a 5' floater and Butler glassvacs!

Time out with 6.1 seconds to go.

The miracle is within reach.

Butler at the stripe.

He makes the first one!

And the second!

Ratso Izzo goes ballistic and stops the game.

Refs should have called Ratso for one, maybe two T's but didn't. The fix appears still to be in, but how will the refs find a way to give the game to MSU!

Izzo is threatening the ref as if Izzo were a strong arm hounding a dead beat!!!

Half court pass and MSU tries a shot from beyond half court and Butler fouls.

MSU makes first FT, but misses second!!!!!!!!!!!!

Butler rebounds!!!

The penultimate step of the dream comes true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Butler's Bulldogs are Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!

A stake put through the heart of Ratso.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

Wonder if Duke is a lock (assuming the NCAA has the fix in)? David vs. Goliath on Monday night? Drama = ratings. The NCAA paved Duke's road; guess is WV might be up against a bit more than Duke tonight. But that's the cynical view.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

"Understanding Butler"

Add Brad Stevens to the list of this year's dynamite new coaches.

Steven's learned his game playing at DePauw, worked for Eli Lilly a couple years, and then volunteered to work for free for Todd Lickliter at Butler.

Stevens and his team stay completely laser like and unrattled in their focus.

They are frankly a better stripping team than the 2008 KU national champions.

They run the weave like Self does.

Stevens career W&L statement is 89-14. And his doing this at Butler. Give him a Maybach program and he will likely win 80 percent of his games easily. He's starting out as the next great coach.

He's so good Indiana University should thank Tom Crean for his efforts and hire Stevens right now.

He's so good a Maybach program should take him immediately.

Stevens and Ben Jacobson are part of the new wave of coaches trying to control tempo both by not letting it get too fast, or too slow. This approach makes these two teams juggernauts that just keep moving forward tirelessly like sharks in the water.

Whether you are Ratso Izzo trying to set the tempo slow so you can bang, or Bill Self trying play you anywhere you want, the metronome like tempo set by Stevens at Butler and Jacobson at Northern Iowa absolutely wears an opponent down.

It is amazing to watch.

It is like all the marquis Maybach program coaches have learned to coach and ebb and flow style of play, to coach runs, and to react to momentum and so all of their skills lie in that direction.

But Stevens and Jacobson just take that expertise completely away from the Maybach coaches.

The set the tempo just faster than where the Maybach coaches like to slow it down to and just slower than where other Maybach coaches want to play during the surges.

Result: Northern Illinois playing an average game beat KU and only lost to MSU by seven playing one of its worst games of the season.

Result: Butler is in the National Finals.

The future is already here, once again.

jaybate 11 years, 8 months ago

I believe WVU will beat Duke unless Duke shoots 45-50 percent from trey.

melrank 11 years, 8 months ago

Jaybate - why the disdain for hard nosed defense, ball control offense, aggressive rebounding, and situational execution?

The promised land will not be delivered without the above qualities and that's why we are at home watching Butler, Michigan State, Duke and West Virginia tonight.

For all of those begging for more tempo and less half court with our own Jayhawks, let it be known that all 4 of these teams play in the bottom 1/3 of D1 when it comes to possessions/game.

It's pretty to go up and down, but rarely does it win NCs.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

ralster: I think there was a lot going on with this team that we don't know about and that is probably why Self was frustrated. There was something internally that jeopardized team chemistry. The only thing, externally, that looked obvious was the issues with TT. But he never seemed to show an disrespect to his teammates or coach Self on the floor. That is something that is a give away .. meaning body language, head-bobbing, etc. Didn't see that from him. From the bench, always saw great support from all. Anything else would be just guessing. But the frustration comment does say a lot.

melrank: Did North Carolina have all the qualities you suggest in 2005 and 2009; did Florida in 2006 and 2007? I don't believe they did. Florida had superior talent and excellent execution. North Carolina .. again talent, but they got up and down the floor and really weren't stellar deffensively. Disagreement on that? I just don't think the formula you have described is "the" formula. I think it is a moving target and it depends on the relative strength of the field. North Carolina of a year ago is much better than anyone this year, and I would argue all four #1 seeds from 2008 are better than the entire field this season.

Talent is the leading factor in my opinion. Chemistry next, then style of play (Melrank's factors). Any of the three can trump the other, depending upon the season, competition, and excellence shown in any of the three areas. But without talent, system means squat. The best defensive team I recall was SIU in 2007. Just not enough talent. KU in 2008 had every component, and really so did Memphis, NC, and UCLA. Talent dominated that year and I don't recall style of play as being a big factor. Once those four made the final four, it was a roll of the dice. This year, you're right. There were a few highly talented teams .. but those teams' talents could not, in the end, overcome the qualities of the teams in this year's final four. Toss in any of the final four participants of 08, Florida of 2006 and 2007, or NC of 2005 and 2009, the style would not matter. The general quality of teams this year is way down from that.

melrank 11 years, 8 months ago

HEM - Carolina is the exception to my tempo comment. Agreed. Sometimes overwhelming talent trumps everything.

However, you are way wrong using Florida as an example of my criteria being incorrect. Yes, they were talented, but those guys were awesome on defense - top 12 both years, played a moderate tempo that was well over 100th in the nation but still managed to have the nation's #1 and #2 rated efficient offense, and controlled the boards on a regular basis. To use your words, they were "excellent" in executing. That pretty much summed up my criteria.

UCLA, Memphis and Kansas of 2008? None played faster than #87 in the nation but all were Top 8 in offensive efficeincy. All 3 were in the Top 4 in defense. All 3 were in the Top 16 in rebounding margin. Carolina was the exception in Tempo, but they were #1 in offensive efficiency, #19 in defense, and the #1 rebounding margin team.

Here's why I was questioning Jaybate. There seems to be a lot of criticisms on our style of play and Self's failure to use our bench in creating a more up tempo game. Although it's humorous, Jaybate seems to take exception with Michigan State's "muscle ball", the tournament's "extreme" style of play, and Butler's "hand checking" and "hack and slap". Others on the board have followed suit with similar remarks as Jaybate's analysis is usually right on.

My criteria are a reliable indicator of success and I personally think this style of play is what wins championships. If you would take the time to do some research on the top teams over the last decade, you would find that controlling tempo, playing defense, rebounding, and executing at crunch time is more likely to win championships than up-tempo, Roy Williams-of-the-90's type teams.

murph 11 years, 8 months ago

I SO hope Butler brings their A+ game Monday night...

murph 11 years, 8 months ago

I SO hope Butler brings their A+ game Monday night...

murph 11 years, 8 months ago

Sorry - don't know how it got posted twice...

yates33333 11 years, 8 months ago

Question of the year, or should it be Jaybate's question of the year.

"Name the only player ever to eat lutefisk in a semifinal game?"


kerbyd 11 years, 8 months ago

Lute's situation kinda reminds me of Bret Favre's yearly retirement.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 8 months ago

Melrank: I agree with your point on Florida's defense. I just felt that it was their overwhelming talent that delivered the championships. Perhaps, some of the most talented teams exhibit the characteristics you describe? But I think your point is valid and I don't think it can be refuted.

I don't really have a problem with Self's style of play, too much. I just prefer Roy's a bit more. It's a nice comparison for us to have had over 20+ years. Great coaches. But Roy's style of play produced 0 titles in 15 years, and Self's one title in 7. Advantage Self. Of note, Roy had 4 final fours in 15 years, and Self has one just final four in 7 years. Advantage Roy. When you make it to the final four, I truly believe it is a roll of the dice assuming there are all top quality, fully manned teams (unlike WV and MSU this year losing their point guards). But purely playing percentages, you should win one of four.

I do believe one thing is for certain, Self's system is more reliable and may render fewer way off center results, whereas Roy's system could result a few more valleys (and peaks). I think you get more consistency of performance with Self's system, whereas Roy's is more inconsistent unless he has overwhelming talent.

With equal or near equal talent, and to your point, Self's system wins most of the time. Roy's system would require more talent to win most of the time vs. Self. But Roy's system can take lesser talent and create higher peaks whereas with Self's system, that same lesser talent would probably be more consistent. Pretty subjective analysis, but one that I believe. Make sense?

Ron Franklin 11 years, 8 months ago

well it looks like the committee got their wish, and placing duke in the weakest region paid them their dividends.

melrank 11 years, 8 months ago

HEM - I would agree 110% with all of the above.

I hope this next year will allow me to say you were right on EJ, too :)

KULA 11 years, 8 months ago

God, if I hear Bill Self say "It's gonna come down to whoever makes shots" one more time, I'm gonna jump outta the window. Brilliant insight, Coach. No wonder they bounced him outta the booth early.

KULA 11 years, 8 months ago

Yeah ralster, but we didn't. Because Bill Self got bounced outta the tourney in the first weekend AGAIN by a much lower seeded team. Guess it just comes down to "whoever makes shots." Please explain to me (because I know from your posts that you know this game-seriously, no sarcasm) but please explain to me how that constitutes "coaching."

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